Blocko wrote:

IRC

2016-12-05 18:50 riunosk: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1074591 MitiS - Movements (feat. MaHi)]
2016-12-05 18:50 riunosk: tachyon diff
2016-12-05 18:50 Blocko: tachyon!??!?!
2016-12-05 18:50 riunosk: i've had some feedback regarding the SVs tho
2016-12-05 18:51 riunosk: xd
2016-12-05 18:51 riunosk: dw
2016-12-05 18:51 riunosk: its for rank
2016-12-05 18:51 riunosk: very much playable
2016-12-05 18:51 riunosk: totally not stolen from dan series
2016-12-05 18:52 riunosk: most say the chart is fun, i do agree
2016-12-05 18:52 riunosk: but i think the SVs can be altered in a way to improve it
2016-12-05 18:53 Blocko: alright uhh hold on
2016-12-05 18:53 Blocko: watching a friend play a map
2016-12-05 18:53 riunosk: np
2016-12-05 18:53 riunosk: no rush
2016-12-05 18:53 riunosk: take ur time
2016-12-05 18:56 Blocko: hm
2016-12-05 18:56 Blocko: 719 notes
2016-12-05 18:56 Blocko: is this unfinished?
2016-12-05 18:56 Blocko: wait wrong diff
2016-12-05 18:56 Blocko: oops
2016-12-05 18:56 riunosk: wat?
2016-12-05 18:56 riunosk: uh ok
2016-12-05 18:56 Blocko: ACTION is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1074591 MitiS - Movements (feat. MaHi) [Tachyon]] <osu!mania> |4K|
2016-12-05 18:57 riunosk: o _o scroll speed
2016-12-05 19:01 Blocko: sorry i was uhh
2016-12-05 19:01 Blocko: half asleep
2016-12-05 19:01 riunosk: no worries
2016-12-05 19:01 riunosk: how was it?
2016-12-05 19:01 Blocko: waking up early can take a lot from you '_>'
2016-12-05 19:01 Blocko: hmm
2016-12-05 19:02 riunosk: :s
2016-12-05 19:02 Blocko: it was alright, i can sorta predict what the next SVs are gonna do
2016-12-05 19:02 riunosk: :d
2016-12-05 19:03 Blocko: lotsa lns though, pretty unusual for a 4k map
2016-12-05 19:03 Blocko: but that's fine too
2016-12-05 19:03 riunosk: yea
2016-12-05 19:03 riunosk: its basically 4 mapping styles into one
2016-12-05 19:03 Blocko: ahh
2016-12-05 19:03 riunosk: Aliscea's
2016-12-05 19:03 riunosk: for LN galore
2016-12-05 19:04 riunosk: crono for hihat mapping
2016-12-05 19:04 riunosk: before the kiai
2016-12-05 19:04 riunosk: and start
2016-12-05 19:04 riunosk: my style from Flying difficultyh
2016-12-05 19:04 riunosk: and secret person
2016-12-05 19:04 riunosk: xd
2016-12-05 19:05 Blocko: secret person?
2016-12-05 19:05 riunosk: ye
2016-12-05 19:09 Blocko: you should probably credit them if you're ranking it
2016-12-05 19:09 riunosk: yea
2016-12-05 19:09 riunosk: its probably not even close to his mapping style
2016-12-05 19:09 riunosk: but i took a very very small portion of it
2016-12-05 19:10 riunosk: which is snares as quads
2016-12-05 19:10 riunosk: but triples at certain times for playability
2016-12-05 19:12 Blocko: hmm
2016-12-05 19:12 riunosk: would that count tho
2016-12-05 19:12 Blocko: not really
2016-12-05 19:12 Blocko: a small portion can be replicated by pretty much anybody '_>'
2016-12-05 19:12 Blocko: there's not much room for a lot of patterns in 4k soooo
2016-12-05 19:12 riunosk: i guess i should change it to 3 tho
2016-12-05 19:14 Blocko: snares as quads but triples at certain times...
2016-12-05 19:15 Blocko: is that evening
2016-12-05 19:15 riunosk: yes
2016-12-05 19:15 riunosk: xd
2016-12-05 19:15 Blocko: oh lol
2016-12-05 19:16 Blocko: as long as you're basing it off of a style rather than taking a part of it
2016-12-05 19:16 Blocko: you should be fine
2016-12-05 19:16 riunosk: so
2016-12-05 19:17 riunosk: does it count as adding a mapping style
2016-12-05 19:18 Blocko: that sounds more like adding another type of pattern in a map
2016-12-05 19:18 riunosk: ahhh
2016-12-05 19:18 riunosk: im confusedddd
2016-12-05 19:18 riunosk: so wat do i put
2016-12-05 19:18 riunosk: retain it as it is now?
2016-12-05 19:20 Blocko: hmmmmm
2016-12-05 19:20 Blocko: i'd say keep it
2016-12-05 19:20 riunosk: million dollar question xd
2016-12-05 19:20 Blocko: i'm just gonna say you have 'ln style' and 'handstream style' or something style '_>'
2016-12-05 19:20 riunosk: maybe
2016-12-05 19:20 riunosk: ln style
2016-12-05 19:20 riunosk: hs style
2016-12-05 19:20 riunosk: quad snare style
2016-12-05 19:20 riunosk: playbility style
2016-12-05 19:20 riunosk: some other style
2016-12-05 19:21 Blocko: i guesssssss
2016-12-05 19:21 Blocko: yeah
2016-12-05 19:21 riunosk: but theres one thing
2016-12-05 19:21 riunosk: i wanna clarify
2016-12-05 19:21 Blocko: and what's that?
2016-12-05 19:21 riunosk: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1074591 MitiS - Movements (feat. MaHi) [Tachyon]]
2016-12-05 19:21 riunosk: 02:31:480 (151480|2,151546|3,151612|2) -
2016-12-05 19:21 riunosk: i need to confirm the snappings for these
2016-12-05 19:22 riunosk: cos they are quite odd
2016-12-05 19:22 riunosk: when i snapped them to 1/4
2016-12-05 19:22 riunosk: i was like
2016-12-05 19:22 riunosk: why cant i hit 320s for these
2016-12-05 19:23 riunosk: #pianosnappings
2016-12-05 19:23 riunosk:
2016-12-05 19:23 Blocko: alright i have a million dollar question for you
2016-12-05 19:24 riunosk: uh oh
2016-12-05 19:24 Blocko: do you want that snapped as accurately as possible (using 1/16 and 1/12) or as simple as possible (only using one type of snap)?
2016-12-05 19:24 riunosk: accurately
2016-12-05 19:24 riunosk: i wanna maintain accuracy
2016-12-05 19:24 Blocko: alright
2016-12-05 19:24 riunosk: while keeping it enjoyable
2016-12-05 19:25 Blocko: ooookay
2016-12-05 19:25 Blocko: 02:31:480 (151480|2) - this one's fine
2016-12-05 19:25 riunosk:
2016-12-05 19:25 riunosk: 1st note clear then
2016-12-05 19:25 Blocko: 02:31:546 (151546|3) - this one should be on 02:31:561 - in 1/12
2016-12-05 19:25 Blocko: 02:31:612 (151612|2) - this one should be on 02:31:634 - in 1/8
2016-12-05 19:26 riunosk: wait a sec
2016-12-05 19:26 riunosk: the first note
2016-12-05 19:26 riunosk: sounds more accurate on 1/12 snap
2016-12-05 19:26 riunosk: 02:31:473 -
2016-12-05 19:26 riunosk: here
2016-12-05 19:26 Blocko: yeah you're right
2016-12-05 19:26 Blocko: honestly this is some weird snap
2016-12-05 19:26 Blocko: '_>'
2016-12-05 19:26 riunosk: yea
2016-12-05 19:26 riunosk: weird piano
2016-12-05 19:27 riunosk: i wonder what mitis was up to
2016-12-05 19:27 riunosk: when he made this
2016-12-05 19:27 Blocko: lol idk
2016-12-05 19:27 riunosk: for now what i have
2016-12-05 19:27 riunosk: the first 2 notes
2016-12-05 19:27 riunosk: are on 1/12 snap
2016-12-05 19:27 Blocko: same here
2016-12-05 19:28 riunosk: im not so sure about the 3rd tho
2016-12-05 19:28 riunosk: it sounds correct
2016-12-05 19:28 riunosk: but i think it could be more accurate
2016-12-05 19:28 Blocko: it's as close as you can be with the editor sadly
2016-12-05 19:28 riunosk: if only osu had 1/32
2016-12-05 19:30 Blocko: lmao
2016-12-05 19:30 Blocko: anything else i can help you with?
2016-12-05 19:30 riunosk: uhh
2016-12-05 19:31 riunosk: help me check the neccessity of this ln
2016-12-05 19:31 riunosk: 00:10:502 (10502|1) -
2016-12-05 19:31 riunosk: i myself think
2016-12-05 19:31 Blocko: necessity?
2016-12-05 19:31 riunosk: it shouldnt be there
2016-12-05 19:31 riunosk: like
2016-12-05 19:31 riunosk: whether it should be there
2016-12-05 19:31 riunosk: or not
2016-12-05 19:31 Blocko: sounds like it ends way earlier than it should be
2016-12-05 19:32 riunosk: its for playability i guess
2016-12-05 19:32 riunosk: but i could rearrange it
2016-12-05 19:33 riunosk: is there any pattern i can use
2016-12-05 19:33 riunosk: to map the synths
2016-12-05 19:33 riunosk: yet still map the hihats
2016-12-05 19:34 Blocko: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6738842 uhh you can do this]
2016-12-05 19:34 Blocko: lns that trail behind the hihats
2016-12-05 19:34 Blocko: or something
2016-12-05 19:35 riunosk: something like a shield?
2016-12-05 19:35 Blocko: yeah
2016-12-05 19:35 riunosk: o
2016-12-05 19:36 riunosk: ur ss tho
2016-12-05 19:36 riunosk: it looks like
2016-12-05 19:36 riunosk: it has missing snap bars
2016-12-05 19:36 Blocko: yeah i have a small resolution for oss
2016-12-05 19:36 Blocko: hehe
2016-12-05 19:36 riunosk: oh
2016-12-05 19:36 riunosk: uh
2016-12-05 19:36 riunosk: okay
2016-12-05 19:37 riunosk: that section is really disturbing me tho
2016-12-05 19:37 riunosk: like
2016-12-05 19:37 riunosk: halfway
2016-12-05 19:37 Blocko: hm
2016-12-05 19:37 riunosk: it just stopped mapping for the hihats
2016-12-05 19:37 riunosk: but it continues on later
2016-12-05 19:37 riunosk: its gonna be problematic with BNs
2016-12-05 19:37 riunosk: my biggest issue so far ;w;
2016-12-05 19:38 riunosk: arghahharghargh
2016-12-05 19:38 riunosk: #mappingproblems
2016-12-05 19:39 Blocko: just gonna throw some ideas https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6738870
2016-12-05 19:39 riunosk: i see what ur doing
2016-12-05 19:39 riunosk: but
2016-12-05 19:39 riunosk: 00:10:502 (10502|1) -
2016-12-05 19:39 riunosk: this ln ends here 00:10:855 -
2016-12-05 19:41 Blocko: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6738876 hhmmm
2016-12-05 19:41 riunosk: i kinda
2016-12-05 19:41 riunosk: tried https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6738881
2016-12-05 19:42 riunosk: i exchanged the softer synths for hihats
2016-12-05 19:42 riunosk: thats the best i could do for now
2016-12-05 19:42 riunosk: 4k has so many limitations arghh
2016-12-05 19:42 Blocko: that looks good

Helped a little with sleepy playtests, snapping and patterns.

Nice map o/

Ascension_H wrote:

hi M4M modding que |1|2|3|4|

insane

00:08:385 (8385|1) - move to 1 done already via self mod
00:12:973 (12973|0) - move to 2 ^
00:15:796 (15796|1) - move to 4 why? pitch relevancy
00:26:032 - add a note for drum sound i dont hear anything here..
00:27:443 - add a note for guitar sound im not mapping for guitar
00:33:090 - add a note for continue sound ^
00:34:679 - add a note or intended? the doubles are for the short synths nothing else so no change
02:26:914 (146914|1) - i think this note move to 4 you might not have updated since what i see here on my side is [34], so i cant do anything about this
02:59:561 (179561|1,179738|0) - ctrl + j not updated
03:02:561 (182561|1) - move to 4 okay
03:26:738 - i suggest this section http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6760872 the LNs in this section are only for the longer synths so no change
03:58:326 (238326|1) - move to 3 not updated as well

teleport

00:09:796 (9796|0) - this LN end 00:10:502 my thinking it actually ends 00:11:385 - but i cant do that since its mapped for playability
00:38:738 - my suggestion http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6760964 okay
00:44:385 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6760971 ^
00:52:326 - add a note for drum sound not exactly drum sound but sure

nice song! i like mitis i love mitis too!!!

02:15 Nivrad00: ye
02:15 riunosk: somewhat more readable
02:15 riunosk: i see your point
02:15 riunosk: but
02:15 riunosk: well
02:15 riunosk: as said earlier
02:15 riunosk: it just doesnt feel right
02:15 Nivrad00: oh yeah of course
02:15 riunosk: :(
02:15 Nivrad00: i didn't know if it would feel right or not
02:15 Nivrad00: i just asked if you'd considered it
02:15 Nivrad00: now you've considered it
02:15 Nivrad00: lel
02:15 riunosk: yea xd
02:15 Nivrad00: i like your idea of pushing it back by 1/4
02:16 Nivrad00: maybe you should do that
02:16 riunosk: lemme do that agn
02:16 Nivrad00: waiT WAIT IWAT
02:16 Nivrad00: ok i just tried it out for the first time
02:16 Nivrad00: (my suggestions)
02:16 Nivrad00: and i agree with what you said about it feeling constant
02:16 Nivrad00: BUT NOW i have another suggestion
02:16 Nivrad00: to make it less constant
02:16 Nivrad00: whoo
02:17 riunosk: oo
02:17 riunosk: the opposition!
02:17 Nivrad00: during each break time
02:17 Nivrad00: (in my old suggestion)
02:17 Nivrad00: you have 1.0x and then another speed to balance it
02:17 Nivrad00: so what if you use .8x or .5x instead of 1.0x
02:17 riunosk: uh huh
02:17 Nivrad00: and then use a higher balancing speed
02:17 Nivrad00: so it's still consistent and not distorted, but not as constant
02:18 riunosk: not sure if i get u
02:18 Nivrad00: ok ok uh
02:18 riunosk: maybe timestamping the suggested 0.8/0.5x?
02:19 Nivrad00: sure but it would take a while
02:19 Nivrad00: i should just explain to you the concept
02:19 Nivrad00: it's not difficult, it's just confusing here because you also have it speeding up
02:19 Nivrad00: think of this SV you have right now as two different effects at once
02:19 Nivrad00: 1. acceleration
02:19 Nivrad00: 2. slowdowns
02:19 riunosk: mhm
02:19 Nivrad00: the acceleration is going 1.0 -> 1.1 -> 1.2 -> 1.3 -> 1.4
02:19 Nivrad00: while the slowdowns is putting 1.0 in all the break times
02:19 Nivrad00: now my suggestion was to use bumps instead of slowdowns
02:19 Nivrad00: that is, to put 1.0 AND a balancing speed in all the break times
02:20 Nivrad00: you follow me this far, right
02:20 riunosk: i followed you until the 1.0x break time part
02:20 Nivrad00: oh
02:20 riunosk: i didnt get balancing speed
02:20 Nivrad00: remember how i told you to put 1.4x in that one place
02:21 Nivrad00: ebcause the average of 1.0x and 1.4x is 1.2x
02:21 riunosk: yep
02:21 riunosk: oh
02:21 Nivrad00: 1.4x is the balancing speed
02:21 riunosk: thats the balancing speed
02:21 Nivrad00: ye
02:21 riunosk: so basically
02:21 riunosk: the
02:21 riunosk: "averager"
02:21 riunosk: something like that
02:21 Nivrad00: sure
02:21 riunosk: xd
02:21 Nivrad00: the combination of slowdown + averager is called a bump
02:21 Nivrad00: actually a reverse bump
02:21 Nivrad00: the terms aren't important though LOL
02:21 Nivrad00: no one uses these terms
02:22 riunosk: bump bump
02:22 Nivrad00: but you get the concept right
02:22 riunosk: i need time to digest that xD
02:22 Nivrad00: ok lol
02:22 riunosk: but u can go on
02:25 riunosk: i still dont get it
02:25 riunosk: dammit
02:25 Nivrad00: oh sorry i didn't see "but u can go on"
02:25 riunosk: aw
02:25 Nivrad00: why dont i just tell you which numbers go where and you can see for yourself
02:26 riunosk: yea
02:26 riunosk: thats what i meant by timestamping
02:26 riunosk: xD
02:26 Nivrad00: oh right ;n;
02:26 riunosk: xd
02:26 riunosk: i tink we do have some sort of miscommunication
02:26 riunosk: mixing up words and stuff
02:26 Nivrad00: well i undestood when you said timestamping
02:26 Nivrad00: i just thought it would be more valuable if i explained the concept
02:26 Nivrad00: so you could do it again in the future
02:27 riunosk: turns out
02:27 riunosk: im horrible at words
02:27 riunosk: better practical
02:27 Nivrad00: nah you're pretty well-spoken
02:27 Nivrad00: i'll use .6 as an example but that might be too strong or too weak idk
02:27 Nivrad00: 01:17:737 - 0.6x
02:27 riunosk: its rather simple english i guess
02:27 Nivrad00: 01:17:826 - 1.4x
02:27 Nivrad00: 01:17:914 - 1.1x
02:28 Nivrad00: 01:18:090 - 0.6x
02:28 Nivrad00: 01:18:179 - 1.6x
02:28 Nivrad00: 01:18:267 - 1.2x
02:28 Nivrad00: 01:18:443 -0.6x
02:28 Nivrad00: 01:18:532 - 1.8x
02:28 Nivrad00: 01:18:620 - 1.3x
02:28 riunosk: oh my
02:28 riunosk: dem stamps
02:28 Nivrad00: 01:18:796 - and you dont have to change anything from here on
02:29 Nivrad00: now i'm gonna apply that and see what it looks like lao
02:29 riunosk: i hope it doesnt look weird
02:30 riunosk: ok
02:30 riunosk: it looks horrible
02:30 riunosk: LOL
02:30 Nivrad00: :/ ok
02:30 riunosk: the gap is too big
02:30 riunosk: and the sv change is too large
02:30 riunosk: as wlel
02:30 riunosk: well
02:30 Nivrad00: not on my screen o-o
02:30 Nivrad00: did i give you the correct numbers
02:31 riunosk: idk
02:31 riunosk: i just
02:31 riunosk: put what i got
02:31 Nivrad00: yeah i used what i wrote to you
02:31 Nivrad00: and the gaps are the correct size on my screen
02:31 riunosk: thats weird
02:32 riunosk: cos
02:32 riunosk: it looked like
02:32 riunosk: i lagged inbetween
02:32 riunosk: and i retried lke
02:32 riunosk: 5 times
02:32 riunosk: to make sure i wasnt
02:32 Nivrad00: can you check your input?
02:32 riunosk: lemme try redoing them
02:32 Nivrad00: it does look like lagging
02:33 Nivrad00: that's kind of what the effect is supposed to be
02:33 Nivrad00: it slows down and then catches up
02:33 Nivrad00: which combines your slowing down effect with some additional movement
02:33 riunosk: i'll just call it lag sv from now
02:33 Nivrad00: this intensity of bumps is actually pretty common in mania i think, but maybe you don't like it as a personal preference
02:33 riunosk: bump sounds weird
02:33 Nivrad00: which is fine :P
02:33 Nivrad00: sure
02:33 riunosk: probably not
02:34 riunosk: yea
02:34 riunosk: i dont really like it
02:34 riunosk: it just
02:35 riunosk: asdaowidjlaksdjlawkdja
02:35 Nivrad00: okay :P
02:35 Nivrad00: no that's normal
02:35 riunosk: :(
02:35 Nivrad00: dont feel bad about it :/
02:35 Nivrad00: believe me
02:35 Nivrad00: i have really weird opinions too
02:35 riunosk: LOL
02:35 riunosk: ok
02:35 Nivrad00: some general values of the mania community really dont sit well with me
02:35 Nivrad00: so maybe the SVs that i'm showing you aren't your style
02:35 Nivrad00: dats alright
02:36 Nivrad00: well i'm out of suggestions anyway LOL
02:36 Nivrad00: other than just plain nerfing
02:36 riunosk: ell
02:36 riunosk: well
02:36 riunosk: u can go on for the nerfing part
02:36 Nivrad00: well ok
02:36 Nivrad00: instead of using 1.0x each time
02:36 Nivrad00: you could use a slowdown speed that's a bit closer to the reading speed
02:37 riunosk: maybe
02:37 riunosk: like
02:37 Nivrad00: you have 0.9 -> 1.1 -> 1.0 -> 1.2 -> 1.0 -> 1.3 right
02:37 Nivrad00: i'm just going on memory rn
02:37 riunosk: 0.9 > 1 > 1.1 > 1.2
02:37 Nivrad00: isn't that what you alrady have o-o
02:37 riunosk: -0.1 from the SV
02:37 Nivrad00: oh, i see
02:37 riunosk: yea
02:37 Nivrad00: i dont think you need to nerf the acceleration, just the slowdowns
02:37 riunosk: i have 1x on most
02:38 riunosk: lemme try doing -0.1x
02:38 Nivrad00: sure
02:38 riunosk: no difference
02:38 riunosk: >:(
02:38 riunosk: but i'll put it there
02:38 riunosk: for the sake of patterning
02:39 Nivrad00: welp
02:39 Nivrad00: i dont think it's possible to retain your original intent for this SV while still making it sightreadable
02:39 Nivrad00: just because the pattern is so fast and, like i said at the beginning of this conversation, the slowdown SV is really hard to implement
02:40 Nivrad00: or if there is a way to do it, i dont know how
02:40 *Nivrad00 shrug
02:40 riunosk: lets just keep the story short
02:40 riunosk: and let me say:
02:40 riunosk: "i wanna trip people"
02:40 riunosk: ez
02:40 Nivrad00: alright :P

1. BPM: OK
2. Offset: OK
3. AiMod: OK
4. Audio: OK
5. Background: OK
6. Preview Point: OK

1. I have some suggestions in pattern/moving notes.
2. 00:23:738 (23738|2,23914|1) - Ctrl + G
3. 00:24:267 (24267|1) - move to column 4.
4. 00:24:267 (24267|1,29385|2,29561|1) - Ctrl + G
5. 00:29:914 (29914|1) - move to column 4
6. 01:18:002 (78002|1,78090|2) - Ctrl + G
7. 02:20:384 - i think you should add one note here since this area follows the "ting ting" sound (i don't know if I really called that sound XD)

1. In the first 7 seconds, i have notice that you don't have notes in column 4. i have suggested notes to move in column 4.
2. Here's the following: 00:00:443 (443|2) - 00:03:267 (3267|2) - 00:06:620 (6620|2) -
3. Some suggestions in pattern/moving notes.
4. 00:23:738 (23738|2,23914|1) - Ctrl + G
5. 00:24:796 (24796|1) - move to column 1
6. 01:20:737 (80737|1) - move to column 4
7. 01:49:679 (109679|1) - move to column 3
8. 01:54:620 (114620|0) - move to column 4
9. 01:54:620 (114620|0) - as i suggested in Normal Map
10. 03:20:737 (200737|2,200826|3) - Ctrl + G

Nice map and Please don't forget to mod my map
Good luck to your map.

Shiro-neechan wrote:

Mod of Mod Request

[General]

1. BPM: OK
2. Offset: OK
3. AiMod: OK
4. Audio: OK
5. Background: OK
6. Preview Point: OK

4k P A T T E R N - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |

[Normal]

1. I have some suggestions in pattern/moving notes.
2. 00:23:738 (23738|2,23914|1) - Ctrl + G its according to pitch so no change here
3. 00:24:267 (24267|1) - move to column 4. ^
4. 00:24:267 (24267|1,29385|2,29561|1) - Ctrl + G ^ try to check your timestamps, was confused for a little
5. 00:29:914 (29914|1) - move to column 4 ^
6. 01:18:002 (78002|1,78090|2) - Ctrl + G ^ its still pitch
7. 02:20:384 - i think you should add one note here since this area follows the "ting ting" sound (i don't know if I really called that sound XD) thats the guitar sound and im not mapping for that so no change here

[Insane]

1. In the first 7 seconds, i have notice that you don't have notes in column 4. i have suggested notes to move in column 4.
2. Here's the following: 00:00:443 (443|2) - this one is fine 00:03:267 (3267|2) - its fine too since the pitch isnt too high 00:06:620 (6620|2) - slightly higher pitched so okay
3. Some suggestions in pattern/moving notes.
4. 00:23:738 (23738|2,23914|1) - Ctrl + G its pitch so no change here
5. 00:24:796 (24796|1) - move to column 1 okay
6. 01:20:737 (80737|1) - move to column 4 i dont see any reason for it to go there
7. 01:49:679 (109679|1) - move to column 3 okay
8. 01:54:620 (114620|0) - move to column 4 moving it to 4 would leave column 1 more empty than it already is so no change
9. 01:54:620 (114620|0) - as i suggested in Normal Map what? can you check your timestamp?
10. 03:20:737 (200737|2,200826|3) - Ctrl + G okay

Nice map and Please don't forget to mod my map tanks and okay
Good luck to your map. tanks

Shinzo- wrote:

M4M

[Teleportation]

00:38:738 (38738|0,38738|1) - suggest to change one of these to LN just like you do at 00:38:208 - 00:43:855 - oh yeah 00:44:385 - this one too, it's confusing since the sound is exactly the same lol made all of them notes since i couldnt hear any synths
00:50:032 (50032|0,50120|3,50208|0,50385|1,50473|0,50826|3,50914|2) - kinda surprised when you suddenly layer this sound when you ignore it on 00:47:385 - 00:48:796 - 00:51:620 - 00:51:973 - etc. fixed
01:06:708 - you didn't layer this sound ? ok im only mapping that sound in the next section so its not too sudden
01:08:649 - add note ? up to you for this and ^ i've mapped all the sounds for this section only
01:16:149 (76149|1,76149|0) - i'm not suggesting a 2 note for that kick sound since 01:16:149 - not worth enough to be 3 note seriously. and just like you do on 01:14:737 - only 1 note fixed
01:55:679 - ok so you didn't layer the snare ? okay (refrence: 01:27:443 - ) sometimes it sounds like a kick only to me sometimes it sounds like a snare to me, but i'll map it like a snare
02:16:193 - i can hear a piano here ? this one is guitar maybe you ignore it bcs of confusing snap ? it's ok i can understand but wth is 02:31:473 (151473|2,151561|3,151634|2) - this its snapped such that its as accurate as possible
02:43:326 - inconsistent with 02:42:973 - .. oh also 02:48:620 - and 02:48:973 - not much i can do about it since the LNs follow the pitch
02:54:267 (174267|3,174355|1,174443|3,174620|1,174708|0,175061|3,175149|2) - already pointed out before fixed
03:12:884 - hmmm add note ? mhm
03:13:590 (193590|1) - just wtf is this when you didn't layer this sound on 03:12:884 - 03:15:531 - 03:15:708 - dude chill lol; applied
03:20:384 (200384|0,200384|1) - same :v as before fixed
03:28:855 - ignoring the kick ? okok but why you didn't ignore it on 03:30:973 - here too? couldnt hear before, fixed
03:45:796 - good, you didn't layer the kick again haha im still deaf
03:48:443 - ok so the snare should be 3 note, or just 03:47:737 - 2 note, or even just 03:48:620 - 1 note ? i'm sorry i'm just confused.. really fixed; all snares are QUADS in this chart and since i cant always use the same amount of notes due to patterning, these kind of stuff happen
04:09:134 - hmmm idk geeeetarrrrr
04:18:796 (258796|2) - i actually hear nothing here... maybe you trying to layer 04:18:708 - this sound ? are you very very very very very very very very very very sure you hear nothing here? im 100000000000% positive i hear an echo here

Good Luck ! tank very much

Shinzo- wrote:

M4M

[Aliscea's Insane]

00:09:973 (9973|3) - move to 2 for consistency pattern&pitch (00:09:267 (9267|1,9443|3,9620|2) - ) just like you do on 00:18:443 (18443|2,18620|0,18796|1) - // moved
00:56:914 - 1 note ? but 03:01:149 - 2 note // added for consistency
01:16:326 - even harder than Teleportation diff. just sayin' // seems similar to me just different note structure
01:20:826 - eh... nothing ? what about 01:23:649 - why you put a note here ? // added
01:26:473 - 01:32:120 - again idk.// added, and some other parts that are the same also
01:40:855 - idk it's too hard while the sound is'nt that clear // keep for now, since it's kinda a good windup for the incoming LN part
01:55:679 - inconsistent with 01:55:502 - // i think its like the sound like in 01:33:090 - so i make it double only
02:16:193 - idk, everyone ignore this piano // idk its kinda audible for me. i think there's a sound similar like this in 02:16:546 - .
02:31:458 (151458|1,151546|3,151635|2) - incocnsistent snap with Teleportation diff // fixed
03:11:473 - since when you layer this sound ? lol (refrence: 03:08:649 - ) // lol removed
03:34:238 - pretty confusing, but nvm // found a way to add
03:44:649 (224649|2) - ghost note // removed
04:09:135 - yeah idk // :<
04:17:032 - hm ?

Good Luck !

Toehoe wrote:

General

1. |1|2|3|4|
2. Some AiMod problems not really any issues here

Insane[/color][/b][/size]

1. 00:00:091 (91|0,267|1,443|2,620|0,796|1,973|2,1149|1,1326|0) - Beginning pattern seems repeated too much, I think you should move around some dont think its an issue since the following sections have different arrangements
2. 01:20:208 (80208|3,80561|2) - Your LN placement means that 01:20:914 isn't 3 note chord when the sound usually is, consider removing them and save LNs for LN sections like here 01:40:326 (100326|2) where you can focus on their sound only (this is advice for the whole Kiai time) discussed in irc, no changes applied :<
3. 02:12:796 (132796|0) - Slightly misleading, 2 sounds but 1 LN. Add a note or another LN perhaps added LN
4. 02:14:208 - LN should end here and then another one should start to end at 02:15:620 the LN ends where it should be if you can hear it closely
5. 02:17:032 - Then consider mapping guitar as LN with piano being single notes for the whole section im not mapping for guitar
6. 02:22:679 (142679|0) - I see you go for pitch mapping here so move this note to |2| then 02:23:737 (143737|2) to |1| okay
7. 04:09:973 - Consider mapping guitar here too same as above

[/notice]

Fresh Chicken wrote:

Here I am, sorry for late. its okay :d

This map is so long so I needed some time

Aliscea's Insane needs to check AI mod.

[Easy]

01:52:149 - I think snare should be here, what do you think, fixed it, but it means that 01:52:679 - will also need to be a snare, which seems like a difficulty spike, what do you think?

02:31:502 - should be same snapping with other difficulties. its hard to apply this since other difficulty's arrangement arent 1/4s, and keeping it simple for beginners, i'll keep it as it is fixed after discussion with protasty

04:09:267 - It don't have to be 2 notes man okay

[Normal]

04:09:267 (249267|2,249311|3) - I don't know this is acceptable in Normal, seems this is very fast snapping on this difficulty. putting it as doubles seem too simple and 1/4 seem too far apart, so i ended up with this, will need more opinions on this

Just fix inconsistency snapping in other difficulties first too.

riunosk wrote:

Fresh Chicken wrote:

[Normal]
04:09:267 (249267|2,249311|3) - I don't know this is acceptable in Normal, seems this is very fast snapping on this difficulty. putting it as doubles seem too simple and 1/4 seem too far apart, so i ended up with this, will need more opinions on this

tailsdk wrote:

Crono's Hard

00:00:091 (91|0,267|1,443|2,620|0,796|3,973|1,1149|2,1326|0) - would make these notes LN's
00:02:914 (2914|0,3090|1,3267|2,3443|0,3620|1,3796|3,3973|2,4149|0) - ^
00:05:738 (5738|0,5914|1,6090|3,6267|2,6443|1,6620|3,6796|0,6973|1) - ^
00:08:561 (8561|0,8738|1,8914|3,9090|2,9267|1,9443|3,9620|1,9796|0) - ^ intro, and it's only hard. This needs to stand out as it's own section so sounds are separated by hitsounding instead of LNs
00:09:443 (9443|3,9620|1,9796|0) - also would make this a double LN since the sound is higher then the others ^
00:11:385 (11385|0,11561|1,11738|3,11914|2,12090|0,12267|1,12443|2,12620|1) - again would make thease LN's
and so on ^
00:22:855 (22855|2,23032|3,23208|1,23385|0,23561|3,23738|2,23914|1,24090|0,24267|1,24443|3,24620|0,24796|1,24973|2,25149|3,25326|1,25502|0,25679|3,25855|2,26032|1,26208|0,26385|2,26561|0,26738|2,26914|1,27090|3,27267|1,27443|3,27443|0,27620|2,27796|1,27973|0,28149|3,28326|0,28502|1,28679|2,28855|0,29032|1,29208|3,29385|2,29561|1,29738|0,29914|2,30090|3,30267|0,30443|3,30620|2,30796|1,30973|0,31149|2,31149|3,31326|0,31502|1,31679|2,31855|0,32032|2,32208|0,32385|1,32561|2,32561|0,32738|3,32914|2,33090|1,33267|3,33443|1,33620|2,33796|3,33973|1,33973|2,34149|3) - i dont understandt in this part how you determine what is a LN and what is not I personally think it is quite obvious. It's the significant sounds in each section.
these should be doubles 01:29:914 (89914|0,90002|1) - 1/4 doubles is not recommended on Hard
this one aswell 01:30:443 (90443|2) -
01:33:443 (93443|2) - ^
01:35:561 (95561|3,95649|2) - ^
01:38:914 (98914|1) - ^
01:51:620 (111620|1,111620|3) - should be triple
01:52:149 (112149|1,112149|3) - ^
01:52:679 (112679|1,112679|3,112855|3,112855|0) - ^ These triples anchor so no.After reading wamster2's mod I made some adjustments.
01:58:149 (118149|0,118237|1) - should be doubles
i really understandt what sound is a LN here and what is not because some sounds that have been single notes before are now LN in this part i think its huge flaw be sure to check through and don't just place LN all over the place there is note placement to music, then there is note placement to balanced gameplay. I prefer not to have non-essential spikes in dificulty. And again, LNs where the sounds are significant for it are placed here.
02:04:326 - i think this slow part should be an SV 0,85x because there really isnt a lot of notes here so it wouldnt hurt it and would fit the song quite nicely
you overuse this pattern here 02:50:384 (170384|3,170561|2,170737|1,170914|3,170914|0) - try to mix it up gets boring It's pitch
03:06:620 (186620|3) - should be an LN???
again i think the end should be slowed down from here 04:08:561 -

I didnt point out every detail in this mod but i said all the problems listen to the sounds at 25% it is very important that the sounds are correct and figure out what sounds are LN and what are normal notes it gets confusing. Honestly I don't see how it's confusing at all. It is however just my opinion.

Toehoe wrote:

mod

General

1. |1|2|3|4|
   
2. 00:34:502 (34502|0,34502|1,34679|2) - I suggest ctrl+h to make more comfortable
3. 01:52:855 (112855|0,112855|3) - I think |1| should move to |2| since same sound as 01:52:679 (112679|1,112679|3) then move 01:53:032 (113032|1) to |1| ok
4. 02:15:620 (135620|3) - I think LN would be better instead because such a different sound and it hangs while I do agree with your statement it would seem out of place imo where there is no focus on this particular set of sounds.
5. 02:17:032 - 02:18:443 - And map it here too and on all white ticks sorry no, focused on a singular set of sounds here (piano)
6. 03:09:796 - Add another note to suit your chord patternok
7. 03:11:208 (191208|2,191561|2) - Because of chord pattern I think these should be notes instead, I don't hear LN sound I do but fixed for consistency
8. 03:12:090 - And another note here for chords ok
9. 03:12:620 (192620|0) - between here and 03:17:208 - check for same thing please
10. 04:09:973 - With this section I think guitar should be mapped like mentioned beforeas mentioned before, no

[notice] Insane

Fresh Chicken wrote:

Here I am, sorry for late.

[Crono's Hard]

mod

00:38:561 (38561|1) - 3 is surely comfortable

01:53:914 (113914|3) - ^1

02:16:326 (136326|1,136414|2) - inconsistency snapping with other difficulties, better to refer Teleportation.

02:31:480 (151480|3,151546|2,151612|1) - ^

Just fix inconsistency snapping in other difficulties first too.

All applied, thank you Fresh Chicken

wamster2 wrote:

Hello! Im a newbie so it might be not useful, XD

mod

Crono's Hard

01:30:090 (90090|3,90090|2,90267|0,90267|1) - I think you should add 1 note to emphasize the snare sound
01:35:737 (95737|1,95737|0) - Same here
01:38:914 (98914|1) - Here also, for the bass soundnot mapping bass sound
01:51:885 - Im not sure if you missed a note on this part on purpose or not I did
02:16:370 - I think you should add a note here? why?
02:39:090 - Here also to emphasize the bass sound? ok
03:45:796 - Here also not following this sound
03:56:031 (236031|2,236208|1,236561|1,236737|2) - Here also ^
04:14:561 (254561|1) - Move to col 4 ok
04:19:149 (259149|3,259326|2,259502|1) - Control H? sound audio location feels like it should be as is to me.

Sorry for poor mod, but i hope i helped you, also sorry for late post, since i requested in your queue. Thanks and goodluck with your map!

Fresh Chicken wrote:

Tell me when you stop to take mod, it will give confusing with my mods

Litharrale wrote:

mod from my queue
1|2|3|4
Teleportation
If you're trying to rank this then I doubt this diff will pass it. There's just too much SV change. (also be careful about SV going faster than normal scroll speed)

It's quite possible actually. number of SV does not make a map unrankable. It's how the SV are executed. I totally agree about the constant faster then normal scroll speed in part of it tho. Also note that it is made purely for challenge if I remember right

Crono wrote:

Litharrale wrote:

mod from my queue
1|2|3|4
Teleportation
If you're trying to rank this then I doubt this diff will pass it. There's just too much SV change. (also be careful about SV going faster than normal scroll speed)

It's quite possible actually. number of SV does not make a map unrankable. It's how the SV are executed. I totally agree about the constant faster then normal scroll speed in part of it tho. Also note that it is made purely for challenge if I remember right

Litharrale wrote:

Insane
00:17:914 (17914|0,18090|1) - Stay consistent. Make these normal notes. normal notes? o _o nothing is highlighted for me though
01:02:385 (62385|1,62561|3,62561|2,62737|0,62737|1) - ctrl-h applied
01:02:914 (62914|2) - col 3 its for pitch so no change
01:42:443 (102443|1,102620|3) - This pattern feels very out of place for a sub 4* i think its fine as it is
01:53:737 (113737|2) - ^ ^
01:43:414 (103414|2) - add a note why? i'll end up with jacks, and this entire chart is mapped for maximum playability
01:49:061 (109061|2) - ^ ^
02:11:384 (131384|1,131737|3,132090|2) - This note and others in this section are mistimed. Use 25% and listen close. wow you have really sharp ears :clap: gonna apply these to other diffs as well
02:32:561 (152561|2,152737|3) - ctrl-j pitched correctly
02:33:973 (153973|0) - col 1 isnt this already at 1?
02:35:384 (155384|2) - col 3 02:36:796 (156796|2) - is higher pitched so its situated at 2

Litharrale wrote:

mod from my queue
1|2|3|4
Teleportation
If you're trying to rank this then I doubt this diff will pass it. There's just too much SV change. (also be careful about SV going faster than normal scroll speed)

Insane
00:17:914 (17914|0,18090|1) - Stay consistent. Make these normal notes.
01:02:385 (62385|1,62561|3,62561|2,62737|0,62737|1) - ctrl-h
01:02:914 (62914|2) - col 3
01:42:443 (102443|1,102620|3) - This pattern feels very out of place for a sub 4*
01:53:737 (113737|2) - ^
01:43:414 (103414|2) - add a note
01:49:061 (109061|2) - ^
02:11:384 (131384|1,131737|3,132090|2) - This note and others in this section are mistimed. Use 25% and listen close.
02:32:561 (152561|2,152737|3) - ctrl-j
02:33:973 (153973|0) - col 1
02:35:384 (155384|2) - col 3

Litharrale wrote:

Litharrale wrote:

mod from my queue
1|2|3|4
Teleportation
If you're trying to rank this then I doubt this diff will pass it. There's just too much SV change. (also be careful about SV going faster than normal scroll speed)

Insane
00:17:914 (17914|0,18090|1) - Stay consistent. Make these normal notes.
01:02:385 (62385|1,62561|3,62561|2,62737|0,62737|1) - ctrl-h
01:02:914 (62914|2) - col 3
01:42:443 (102443|1,102620|3) - This pattern feels very out of place for a sub 4*
01:53:737 (113737|2) - ^
01:43:414 (103414|2) - add a note
01:49:061 (109061|2) - ^
02:11:384 (131384|1,131737|3,132090|2) - This note and others in this section are mistimed. Use 25% and listen close.
02:32:561 (152561|2,152737|3) - ctrl-j
02:33:973 (153973|0) - col 1
02:35:384 (155384|2) - col 3

WHOOPS this mod was meant for Aliscea's insane, not the normal insane. My bad! >_<

Litharrale wrote:

Insane
00:17:914 (17914|0,18090|1) - Stay consistent. Make these normal notes. // uh it's already normal notes?
01:02:385 (62385|1,62561|3,62561|2,62737|0,62737|1) - ctrl-h // what?? the closest one that i currently have is 01:02:385 (62385|2) -
01:02:914 (62914|2) - col 3 // not sure for what particular reason, but I find it more straining for the right hand
01:42:443 (102443|1,102620|3) - This pattern feels very out of place for a sub 4* // it's my style of mapping the song and it should be okay
01:53:737 (113737|2) - ^ // same reason
01:43:414 (103414|2) - add a note // added
01:49:061 (109061|2) - ^ // added
02:11:384 (131384|1,131737|3,132090|2) - This note and others in this section are mistimed. Use 25% and listen close. // i quite hear it clearly but I believe a new timing point is the solution here. Will wait for chicken's mod
02:32:561 (152561|2,152737|3) - ctrl-j // i understand the purpose for PR but i prefer jacking 02:32:737 (152737|2,153973|2) - to emphasize the pitch at 02:34:502 (154502|3) -
02:33:973 (153973|0) - col 1 // i like my current pattern better
02:35:384 (155384|2) - col 3 // same reason as above

Fresh Chicken wrote:

ok my mod messed up due to other mods so I MUST start it at first

[Teleportation]

00:00:091 - I think should have one more note for emphasis first start and it has definitely strong sound. i think its fine as it is

00:33:443 (33443|1) - It should end at 00:33:620 - here. okidoki

01:38:561 - 01:44:208 - 01:49:855 - 01:52:679 - 4 chord is not good for your consistency, you used 3 notes on snare on below but those parts don't have any point for emphasizing and have suddenly loud HS. If you have any intention of this, please let me know hmm i guess i'll make everything triples then

02:07:480 (127480|1,127657|3) - and 02:08:032 - ~ 02:14:208 - wtf is this lol its snapped to be as accurate as possible to be consistent with 02:31:473 (151473|2,151561|3,151634|2) - if thats an issue let me know

Fresh Chicken wrote:

[Aliscea's Insane]

01:38:737 - HS missing and it's snare so should better to use 3 note // chose not to emphasize this, so that parts like 01:41:561 - would be emphasized more

01:47:737 - HS missing

01:55:679 - ^

01:59:737 - ^

02:07:502 (127502|1,127679|3) - Make consistency snapping with Teleportation. // fixed

02:08:208 - ~ 02:14:208 - ^

02:38:737 - HS

02:41:737 - ^

02:44:384 - 02:47:384 - 02:53:737 - 02:59:384 - 03:02:737 -

okay I WON'T do HS mod for this difficulty, take a look yourself one more time.

Fresh Chicken wrote:

[Crono's Hard]

02:07:502 - ~ 02:14:208 - Go refer Teleportation's snapping

Other things should be better to go on IRC

Protastic101 wrote:

feel free to poke me in game or forum pm me.

Garalulu wrote:

Take my star owo)/~☆☆☆☆☆