Azusa Tadokoro - Junshin Always · forum

Shad0w1and

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Shad0w1and 2016-01-16T07:21:54+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2016年2月7日 at 13:55:34

Artist: Azusa Tadokoro
Title: Junshin Always
Source: 無彩限のファントム・ワールド
Tags: Musaigen no Phantom World Myriad Colors tv size anime opening ending cloudsplash16 Little Lami intoon ZZHBOY StarrStyx Aerous
BPM: 180
Filesize: 17748kb
Play Time: 01:29
Difficulties Available:

Advanced (2.34 stars, 189 notes)
Aerous' Extra (5.33 stars, 422 notes)
Extra (5.87 stars, 412 notes)
Lami's Extra (5.68 stars, 430 notes)
Little's Insane (4.76 stars, 405 notes)
Normal (1.73 stars, 123 notes)
StarR's Extra (5.72 stars, 415 notes)
ZZHBOY's Hard (3.46 stars, 255 notes)

Download: Azusa Tadokoro - Junshin Always
Download: Azusa Tadokoro - Junshin Always (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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#7 田所あずさ - 純真Always
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無彩限のファントム・ワールド
Anime ED Theme | 2016

Check out the Opening: SCREEN mode - Naked Dive

Extra1: me |

Extra2: Lami |

Extra3: StarrStyx |

Extra4: Aerous

Insane: Little |

Hard: ZZHBOY |

Advanced /

Normal: Little & me
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中文译名：
纯真常在
crf=22
贫乳赛高！黑长直赛高！~~姐姐赛高！~~ Σ(|||ﾟдﾟ;)ﾉ姐姐呢？
第一个准备飞的X set就蹦出来4个X，我是醉了

ε٩(๑> ₃ <)۶з

2016-01-18 00:43 Axarious: DT?
2016-01-18 00:43 Axarious: YOU CRAZY?
2016-01-18 00:43 Shad0w1and: lol
2016-01-18 00:43 Shad0w1and: maybe:_;
2016-01-18 00:44 Axarious: :p

01:51 jonathanlfj: why is everyone and their mothers mapping this song
01:51 jonathanlfj: this and contra kiseki

OK DAD, MB .-.

Last edited by Shad0w1and 2017-05-19T14:53:07+00:00, edited 106 times in total.

Toruta

147 posts

Joined October 2012

Toruta 2016-01-17T07:45:25+00:00

感覺pp圖難mod
整體難度沒星看起來的那麼高好事?

[Little's Insane]
00:03:033 (2,3) - i don't like this

[StarR's Extra]
00:12:866 (7,1) - 應該是特意拉長了不過我覺得放和前面一樣的會比較順 http://puu.sh/myLmt/fd1a589b39.jpg
00:16:533 (3) - 感覺折返不適合
00:45:866 (5,6) - 00:17:200 (1,2) - 00:27:866 (1,2) - 00:29:200 (1,2) - 這些放滑調背面的note有很多感覺很易斷cb 不過我覺得放的蠻好看的
01:04:200 (3,5) - http://puu.sh/myLNN/f058787893.jpg 比較好？
[Extra]
00:50:033 (4,5,6) - 不喜歡試試 http://puu.sh/myM0h/743cddc3d1.jpg
00:52:200 (3,3) - 強逼症 00:52:866 (3) - 的結尾沒疊 00:52:200 (3) - 的開頭用4網格應該可以疊起來
01:12:533 (3,1) - 01:19:533 (5,3) - 同上
01:15:199 (3,4) - why留空
01:26:200 (5,2) - 5疊到2了

P A N

2,346 posts

Joined December 2011

P A N 2016-01-17T08:01:41+00:00

[Extra]

00:13:533 (2) - finish on head?
00:13:866 (1) - remove NC here makes player to notice that it's 1/4 easier imo, and you didn't add NC on other previous stream.
00:19:533 (1) - remove NC. same as the second reason above.
00:24:866 (1,3) - switch NC here is more fit with music and makes the first note of next phrase stronger.
00:29:533 (3) - add finish?
00:51:200 (1) - no need to NC imo.
00:51:200 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - why you keep reducing spacing till the end of stream? music isn't weaker imo, it even stronger on the vocal at 00:51:866 (1)
00:55:033 (1,1) - add finish.
01:05:200 (1) - finish on head.
00:59:200 - this rhythm is more fit imo.
01:09:866 - ^
01:12:700 (1) - remove NC?
01:23:533 (8) - finish on head.
01:25:866 (3,5) - add finish

[StaR]

00:03:033 (2) - umm vocal is on blue tick actually.
00:12:283 (4) - doesn't have sound here but I think you put it for.... ermm more playable? two circles can be playable as well just saying.
00:09:200 (1) - add finish
00:13:200 (1) - finish on tail. umm but if you could spread this slider to this will be more very fit with music. so you can add whistle on tail of 1/2 slider and add finish on circle.
your diff still missing many of whistle imo. for example, 00:10:033 (4)
00:16:533 (3) - ermm what? it have no sound on blue tick, end on red tick or if you want to end it on blue tick so much, at least try something like this really more playable.
00:17:200 (1) - add finish.
00:25:200 (1) - ^
00:35:783 - can add note or 00:35:616
00:39:533 (6) - better spread it into two circles because music is strong here.
00:45:866 (5) - finish on tail
00:49:200 (1) - finish on head
00:50:866 (2) - finish
00:52:200 (2,4) - finish on head
00:57:200 (1) - finish on head
01:02:866 (2,2,3) - add finish
01:07:200 (3) - ^
01:11:866 (1) - finish on tail
01:13:200 (1) - finish
01:15:867 (1,1,1,1,1) - ^
01:23:533 (6) - finish on head
01:25:866 (6,7) - finish on head
01:26:533 (1) - finish

[Little]

reduce drain. 7 is more than one extra and same as two extras.

gl

Misure

951 posts

Joined September 2012

Misure 2016-01-17T09:20:55+00:00

以加sp的心态来便宜分Kira☆

IRCCCxixi

2016-01-16 21:05 Misure: 下好
2016-01-16 21:05 Misure: 了
2016-01-16 21:05 Shad0w1and: 送pp！
2016-01-16 21:14 Misure: 啊
2016-01-16 21:14 Misure: 00:56:866 (1,2,3,4,1) - 
2016-01-16 21:14 Misure: 这串 最好再修一下 打的时候好像能感觉出来
2016-01-16 21:15 Misure: 不等距
2016-01-16 21:15 Shad0w1and: 嗯，到时候音效下了大概会好点
2016-01-16 21:15 Shad0w1and: 我会加大音效
2016-01-16 21:15 Shad0w1and: 没有音效还是打着瘆人
2016-01-16 21:16 Misure: 啊 不是 我是说完全1.8 不要1.76这样 能感觉出来差距...
2016-01-16 21:16 Shad0w1and: 改了一个你之前掉的
2016-01-16 21:16 Shad0w1and: 好
2016-01-16 21:16 Shad0w1and: 我看看
2016-01-16 21:16 Shad0w1and: 01:06:366 (6) -
2016-01-16 21:17 Misure: 左上右下板子死角（
2016-01-16 21:17 Shad0w1and: 嗯
2016-01-16 21:23 Shad0w1and: 谢谢啦

2016-01-16 22:24 Misure: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/880566 Azusa Tadokoro - Junshin Always [Extra]]
2016-01-16 22:24 Misure: 刚打了下
2016-01-16 22:24 Misure: 感觉kiai
2016-01-16 22:24 Misure: 尾
2016-01-16 22:25 Misure: 那个跳还是有点太大了 做成kiai头那个距离就好感觉
2016-01-16 22:25 Shad0w1and: ？
2016-01-16 22:26 Misure: 结尾感觉有一点点不顺
2016-01-16 22:26 Shad0w1and: （那我就加大头的距离）
2016-01-16 22:26 Misure: （
2016-01-16 22:26 Shad0w1and: 好
2016-01-16 22:27 Misure: 主要就01:19:533 (5,6,1) - 01:27:533 (3,4,1) - 这俩

2016-01-17 17:12 Misure: 嗯
2016-01-17 17:12 Misure: 话说 最后一部分
2016-01-17 17:12 Misure: 打的时候有种微妙的感觉 看了半天感觉是因为
2016-01-17 17:12 Misure: 向下的全是跳的原因
2016-01-17 17:12 Shad0w1and: 嗯好本想偷懒不改，那还是改改
2016-01-17 17:13 Misure: 01:24:366 (2,3) - 01:18:866 (2,3) - 01:21:533 (2,3) - 就是这个意思。
2016-01-17 17:13 Misure: 0.0
2016-01-17 17:13 Shad0w1and: 好
2016-01-17 17:13 Misure: 或者换个方向就好 都向下其实能感觉出来

Shad0w1and

1,588 posts

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Shad0w1and 2016-01-17T10:08:04+00:00

P A N wrote:
[Extra]
00:13:533 (2) - finish on head?
00:13:866 (1) - remove NC here makes player to notice that it's 1/4 easier imo, and you didn't add NC on other previous stream.
00:19:533 (1) - remove NC. same as the second reason above.
00:24:866 (1,3) - switch NC here is more fit with music and makes the first note of next phrase stronger.
00:29:533 (3) - add finish?
00:51:200 (1) - no need to NC imo.
00:51:200 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - why you keep reducing spacing till the end of stream? music isn't weaker imo, it even stronger on the vocal at 00:51:866 (1)
00:55:033 (1,1) - add finish.
01:05:200 (1) - finish on head.
00:59:200 - this rhythm is more fit imo. either worked :/
01:09:866 - ^
01:12:700 (1) - remove NC?
01:23:533 (8) - finish on head.
01:25:866 (3,5) - add finish
gl

no comment=fix

@khy200610140 all fixed

Misure wrote:

以加sp的心态来便宜分Kira☆

IRCCCxixi

2016-01-16 21:05 Misure: 下好
2016-01-16 21:05 Misure: 了
2016-01-16 21:05 Shad0w1and: 送pp！
2016-01-16 21:14 Misure: 啊
2016-01-16 21:14 Misure: 00:56:866 (1,2,3,4,1) - 
2016-01-16 21:14 Misure: 这串 最好再修一下 打的时候好像能感觉出来
2016-01-16 21:15 Misure: 不等距
2016-01-16 21:15 Shad0w1and: 嗯，到时候音效下了大概会好点
2016-01-16 21:15 Shad0w1and: 我会加大音效
2016-01-16 21:15 Shad0w1and: 没有音效还是打着瘆人
2016-01-16 21:16 Misure: 啊 不是 我是说完全1.8 不要1.76这样 能感觉出来差距...
2016-01-16 21:16 Shad0w1and: 改了一个你之前掉的
2016-01-16 21:16 Shad0w1and: 好
2016-01-16 21:16 Shad0w1and: 我看看
2016-01-16 21:16 Shad0w1and: 01:06:366 (6) -
2016-01-16 21:17 Misure: 左上右下板子死角（
2016-01-16 21:17 Shad0w1and: 嗯
2016-01-16 21:23 Shad0w1and: 谢谢啦

2016-01-16 22:24 Misure: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/880566 Azusa Tadokoro - Junshin Always [Extra]]
2016-01-16 22:24 Misure: 刚打了下
2016-01-16 22:24 Misure: 感觉kiai
2016-01-16 22:24 Misure: 尾
2016-01-16 22:25 Misure: 那个跳还是有点太大了 做成kiai头那个距离就好感觉
2016-01-16 22:25 Shad0w1and: ？
2016-01-16 22:26 Misure: 结尾感觉有一点点不顺
2016-01-16 22:26 Shad0w1and: （那我就加大头的距离）
2016-01-16 22:26 Misure: （
2016-01-16 22:26 Shad0w1and: 好
2016-01-16 22:27 Misure: 主要就01:19:533 (5,6,1) - 01:27:533 (3,4,1) - 这俩

2016-01-17 17:12 Misure: 嗯
2016-01-17 17:12 Misure: 话说 最后一部分
2016-01-17 17:12 Misure: 打的时候有种微妙的感觉 看了半天感觉是因为
2016-01-17 17:12 Misure: 向下的全是跳的原因
2016-01-17 17:12 Shad0w1and: 嗯好本想偷懒不改，那还是改改
2016-01-17 17:13 Misure: 01:24:366 (2,3) - 01:18:866 (2,3) - 01:21:533 (2,3) - 就是这个意思。
2016-01-17 17:13 Misure: 0.0
2016-01-17 17:13 Shad0w1and: 好
2016-01-17 17:13 Misure: 或者换个方向就好 都向下其实能感觉出来

asked four test plays for optimizing jumps and some other fixes.
thx everyone.

Little

2,509 posts

Joined November 2012

Little 2016-01-17T18:05:18+00:00

@khy200610140, I think that part is fine. I don't see what's wrong with it.
@P A N, ok changed to HP6
Also made some other minor changes on my own.

http://puu.sh/mzeGn/11ef2d9f17.zip

DreaM117er

1,594 posts

Joined September 2012

DreaM117er 2016-01-18T03:20:52+00:00

額外不摸主Ex：
@蝦斗：我主頁寫什麼，我並不想罵人。就是不摸你的Ex

[ZZH]

00:02:533 (2,3) - NC??
00:46:200 - 這個鼓點拆開來節奏比較好呢
01:28:533 - 這裡可以NC，要不就是最後一個circle，12感覺太長了

[Little's Insane]

I really think you should let 1/4 rhythm get close, let 1/4 different from 1/2 jump. Other is fine to me
00:34:533 (1,2) - this one is very nice that I said
-------
00:11:533 (6,1) -
00:26:200 (5,1) -
00:37:200 (1,2) -
00:49:200 (1,2) -
01:01:200 (1,2) -
01:02:533 (1,2) -
01:05:200 (1,2) -
01:12:533 (4,5) - the most shit one for me

[Lami's Extra]

00:02:533 (2,3,4) - for Extra, these must add NC. notice HP drain plz

Other is nice

[StarR's Extra]

00:06:449 (5,1) - 這是不是沒擺好??

Shad0w1and

1,588 posts

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Shad0w1and 2016-01-18T04:05:28+00:00

DreaM117er wrote:
[ZZH]

00:02:533 (2,3) - NC??
00:46:200 - 這個鼓點拆開來節奏比較好呢
01:28:533 - 這裡可以NC，要不就是最後一個circle，12感覺太長了

all fixed

Lami

1,756 posts

Joined June 2011

Lami 2016-01-18T04:42:23+00:00

Can you add NC in my diff?

Shad0w1and

1,588 posts

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Shad0w1and 2016-01-18T06:44:40+00:00

Lami wrote:
Can you add NC in my diff?

ok

Mod for StaR's Extra
这些点我希望你全改

00:24:866 (6) - 重音加高间距
00:31:533 (4,1) - 包
00:33:116 - 漏音，给3连
00:35:616 - 00:35:783 - 00:39:450 - 00:43:783 - 00:53:450 - 01:04:783 - 漏音
00:48:616 - 00:54:283 - 漏音拆开
我认为我说的这些基本都是硬伤，bn们早晚都会点出来，你最好先修正完，记得reply

TtmnZk

Elite Mapper

597 posts

Joined March 2013

TtmnZk 2016-01-18T14:14:29+00:00

m4m
[Extra]

00:08:866 (1,2,1) - DS对于这个diff就显得有些近了，把2移到大概282，254差不多

00:13:866 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1) - 这里也是

00:17:866 (4,5,6,7,8) - 这里连打排版没在直线上

00:40:533 (1,2) - ds，近了以及flow也不好

00:53:866 (1,2) - 这里也加大一点比较好

[StarR's Extra]

00:03:033 (2) - 节奏实际上对不上人声，也没有其他音支持这个折返，还是换了比较好

00:15:866 (1) - ctrl+g?

01:09:200 (1,2,3,1,2) - 这一段ds近了，都拉开比较好

[Lami's Extra]

oh nice!

[Little's Insane]

00:02:533 (1,2) - ,can't hear any sound at 00:02:866,maybe make a 3/2 silder better?

and00:03:366 (3) - .vocal start from 00:03:450， i think you need to try in other way here

others fine~

[ZZHBOY's Hard]

00:30:366 (6) - 前后DS一致？

[Advanced]

00:32:366 (5,6) - 这个怎么说，前一个跟人声后一个跟鼓，打起来非常别扭。还是建议纯跟鼓或者跟人声

00:35:033 (4,5) - ^

GL ~★

Shad0w1and

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Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Shad0w1and 2016-01-18T15:50:10+00:00

@ttm
1/4短滑条都不改，其他全改
ZZHBOY's Hard
Advanced
Extra

Irreversible

osu! Alumni

4,315 posts

Joined December 2011

Irreversible 2016-01-18T17:28:48+00:00

Hii, m4m!!

[Extra]

Cool diff, but sometimes the jumps are too big.
00:06:533 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Please lower the spacing of this a bit. Like this, it's too much.
00:17:200 (1) - Same. Move it a bit closer, how about 348 / 204? 00:17:366 (2,3) - Adjust these afterwards!
00:18:700 (1,2,1,2) - Lower spacing a bit.
00:51:866 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same.
00:54:533 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - Same.
01:03:866 (1,2,3,4) - Same...
01:13:199 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Actually cool but can be lowered a bit.
01:15:866 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - wtf

Okay my conclusion from this map is: You are a really nice mapper but these jumps are just too much, don't ruin it by this. It's way over done and I don't like to say it but it seems to be forced difficulty.

[StarR's Extra]

00:12:200 (3,4,5) - White tick triplets are usually bad if they aren't 100% indicated in the song; this is here the case. Please remove it.
00:12:533 (6) - Blaket
00:24:533 (3,4,5,6) - Uh.m... try again? This is not in the song like this.. Same as above, you've put a white tick triplet where it's not needed.
01:08:533 (4,5,6) - Same
01:13:200 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - Totally too much.

Actually, please go over the diff and remove all white tick triplets, I don't think there are any in this song..

[Lami's Extra]

it's okay

Note to all Extras: Often you totally overused jumps, and if you didn't figure they are similar too.. all your Extras are so similar, and I really ask myself, is it needed?

[Normal]

00:57:200 (1,2,3) - I feel like there are some missing hitsounds, how about adding some whistles? -> Same with 01:07:866 (1) -

The lower diffs I had nothing to complain about but the higher diffs.. you should get me.

Good luck!

Nakano Itsuki

1,218 posts

Joined July 2014

Nakano Itsuki 2016-01-18T18:25:15+00:00

khy

00:12:866 (7,1) - 我就是聽到有延長音先放的
00:45:866 (5,6) - 00:17:200 (1,2) - 00:27:866 (1,2) - 00:29:200 (1,2) - 這些我就是想着朝滑條身一直線向後aim的應該沒問題

PAN

00:13:200 (1) - I dont think I heard anything on the red tick to be emphasized tbh

117

00:06:449 (5,1) - ？有什麼問題啊

ttm

00:15:866 (1) - ctrl g 效果+flow不太好啊..

irre

removed some triplets
00:24:533 (3,4,5,6) - this one has a drum buildup, which is why I decided to put the current pattern
as for the jumps, the main reason i put those there is because the song reaches its climax at that point of the song, and continues till the end. since the whole diff's spacing is mid-large, i spaced those circles to reflect the climax. also the circles are spaced increasingly as the song goes on the reflect the vocals are getting stronger.

Others fixed
thx for mod

asdf

osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:純真Always
Artist:Azusa Tadokoro
ArtistUnicode:田所あずさ
Creator:Shad0w1and
Version:StarR's Extra
Source:無彩限のファントム・ワールド
Tags:Musaigen no Phantom World Myriad Colors tv size anime opening ending cloudsplash16 Little Lami ZZHBOY StarrStyx
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Shad0w1and

1,588 posts

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Shad0w1and 2016-01-18T18:55:11+00:00

[Extra]
~~No changed.~~

SPOILER

because it has nothing to do with overall spacing. overdone can only happened when we do jumps in clam sections of a song, therefore if we think the jumps are too big, why not change your game setting for smaller play area?
This diff is for top players, I believe that I have used the best style of doing full screen jumps and at the same time I presented the Music well. I highlighted the climax of the song and as well as clam down when the solo begins.

regarding to fullscreen jumps, does it really matter it is full screen or not?!

regarding to star rating, i have to tell a story that when I change the offset of my map, the SR varies. Why? because it is not accurate at all, it weight the difficult of a map based on time, even your map is exactly same. so what I did here is play with the offset and get the highest SR and then edit the mp3. yeah, this is like a joke but it is true. so another thing I want to say is, my map have higher SR because I played with the offset. Is it overdone because I got free SR?
surely I am sorry my map seems have relatively larger spacing, but did I present the music badly? I got nice flows, and use flow cut large jumps to highlight the climax, it plays nicely and probably the most fluent in all 5.5 SR kappa maps. I think I will need more input from top player mappers, and i am sure I followed how to present the music well at first, I am not a circlejerk after all.
let's wait for more inputs from others ;w;

fine then
[Normal]
great idea, I did not think of it.
fixed

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Little

2,509 posts

Joined November 2012

Little 2016-01-19T00:31:07+00:00

DreaM117er wrote:
[Little's Insane]
I really think you should let 1/4 rhythm get close, let 1/4 different from 1/2 jump. Other is fine to me It's fine. The spacing is different enough that it can be read perfectly. It plays well because of slider follow circle leniency and I used these because I want to emphasize the beat there.
00:34:533 (1,2) - this one is very nice that I said
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00:11:533 (6,1) -
00:26:200 (5,1) -
00:37:200 (1,2) -
00:49:200 (1,2) -
01:01:200 (1,2) -
01:02:533 (1,2) -
01:05:200 (1,2) -
01:12:533 (4,5) - the most shit one for me Decreased the distance here because it's too big.

TT Mouse wrote:
[Little's Insane]

00:02:533 (1,2) - ,can't hear any sound at 00:02:866,maybe make a 3/2 silder better? I want to click there.

and00:03:366 (3) - .vocal start from 00:03:450， i think you need to try in other way here Changed it.

others fine~

Thanks.
http://puu.sh/mAUh5/a19587a614.zip

Kalibe

2,060 posts

Joined October 2013

Kalibe 2016-01-19T22:30:05+00:00

Well.. quick check as requested~

- Prefer change BG .png - > to .jpg just for reduce filesize of map.

Normal // Actually name this Easy lol.

- Ar seems high a bit... 3 or optional 3,5 works a lot better tho.
- 01:23:200 (3) - minor - How about make the same curve as previous slider, looks neat!

Advanced // Please this is Normal .w.

- Same as in Normal, AR is too huge dudde, 5 or 5,5 could best.
- 00:09:866 (2) - 01:23:533 (7) - These are out of offscreen when play on EZ mode.
- Uncheck Widescreen.
- 01:25:033 (3,4) - Fix this stack.

ZZHBOY's Hard

- Uncheck Widescreen.
- 00:06:200 (4,5,6,7) - 01:07:533 (6,7,8,9) - Maybe instead of 4 circles streams use 1/4 sliders with 2 repeaters? Better to emphasis imo.
- 01:20:366 (6,7) - Plays weird dude.. mayb just do ctrl g on 01:20:533 (7) - ?

Little's Insane

- 00:00:533 (1,4) - How about whistles on these objects?
- 00:06:200 (4) - Why you skip those drums, just why ;w;
- 00:20:866 (4,1) - Stack (4) on (1)'s end for tidyness.
- 00:54:200 (1) - Any reason for putting here NC? I think it's unnessesary.

Lami's Extra

- 00:19:200 (3) - NC mayb? for better reading, cause it's overlapped with previous slider.
- Uncheck Widescreen.
- 00:53:700 (1) - Useless NC, really idk why you put here, cause of stream start?
- 00:56:866 (3,1) - minor - Avoid this overlap maybe? It's not very catchy while playing, but just for tidyness?
- 01:14:366 (4,2) - Stack properly.

StarR's Extra

- 00:04:366 (2,3) - Unstack is really speciallllyyy? It's ugly for me buddy <:[
- 00:51:866 (1,3) - Add NC's, because of SV changes.
- 01:04:200 (3,5) - Stack plsplspls
- 01:28:616 (2) - I can't hear any sound here.. Am i deaf ? .w.

Extra // Extreme mayb?

- Letterboxing and Countdown.. uncheck please.
- 01:11:532 (6) - 01:10:532 (1) - 01:15:532 (4) - Unsnapped slider's ends.
- 01:16:866 (3,4) - Ehh.. only that jump bug me the most. I think you can nerf it a bit like 480|64 ? But it's not nessesary at all, maybe just me. ;w;

Ok, that's all. Hope i helped with something .w.

Shad0w1and

1,588 posts

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Shad0w1and 2016-01-19T23:22:33+00:00

Kalibe wrote:
Well.. quick check as requested~

- Prefer change BG .png - > to .jpg just for reduce filesize of map.not much for a 400kb png

Normal // Actually name this Easy lol.will consider, just because i do not want a "N" icon on easy

- Ar seems high a bit... 3 or optional 3,5 works a lot better tho.
- 01:23:200 (3) - minor - How about make the same curve as previous slider, looks neat!does not matter lol

Advanced // Please this is Normal .w.advanced is ok imo

- Same as in Normal, AR is too huge dudde, 5 or 5,5 could best.
- 00:09:866 (2) - 01:23:533 (7) - These are out of offscreen when play on EZ mode.
- Uncheck Widescreen.
- 01:25:033 (3,4) - Fix this stack.

ZZHBOY's Hard

- Uncheck Widescreen.
- 00:06:200 (4,5,6,7) - 01:07:533 (6,7,8,9) - Maybe instead of 4 circles streams use 1/4 sliders with 2 repeaters? Better to emphasis imo.does not matter imo
- 01:20:366 (6,7) - Plays weird dude.. mayb just do ctrl g on 01:20:533 (7) - ?

Extra // Extreme mayb? good job I got this: " Extreme: Pretty uncommon, but it's higher than Extra/Expert."

- Letterboxing and Countdown.. uncheck please.
- 01:11:532 (6) - 01:10:532 (1) - 01:15:532 (4) - Unsnapped slider's ends.
- 01:16:866 (3,4) - Ehh.. only that jump bug me the most. I think you can nerf it a bit like 480|64 ? But it's not nessesary at all, maybe just me. ;w;well the most intense part of the song, and it is not that hard for the whole difficulty according to a lot test plays, so keep for now

Ok, that's all. Hope i helped with something .w.

thanks so much dude<3

Renamed the main diff to Extreme because it is harder than Extras

Garven

osu! Alumni

5,857 posts

Joined January 2010

Garven 2016-01-20T02:18:54+00:00

Just a few observations after a quick peek since you seemed unresponsive in #modhelp

Tick rate 2 fits this song best
The BG doesn't seem to make any sense to me and doesn't really fit the happy-go-lucky feel of the song, nor does it really fit with the general feel of the video.
In Extreme, SV feels really slow compared to the jump spacing to the point of it really killing the flow and momentum for me.

Shad0w1and

1,588 posts

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Shad0w1and 2016-01-20T04:34:19+00:00

Irreversible wrote:
Hii, m4m!!

[Extra]

Cool diff, but sometimes the jumps are too big.
00:06:533 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Please lower the spacing of this a bit. Like this, it's too much.
00:17:200 (1) - Same. Move it a bit closer, how about 348 / 204? 00:17:366 (2,3) - Adjust these afterwards!this one is actually fine with the guitar and downbeat support
00:18:700 (1,2,1,2) - Lower spacing a bit.
00:51:866 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same.
00:54:533 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - Same.
01:03:866 (1,2,3,4) - Same...
01:13:199 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Actually cool but can be lowered a bit.
01:15:866 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - wtf

not agree that these are forced jumps because all the build ups are for them. but if you insist, I nerf.

Lami

1,756 posts

Joined June 2011

Lami 2016-01-20T06:08:42+00:00

Irreversible wrote:
[Lami's Extra]

it's okay

Note to all Extras: Often you totally overused jumps, and if you didn't figure they are similar too.. all your Extras are so similar, and I really ask myself, is it needed?
i only use jumps at major rhythm, need emphasis part or 1/1 background rhythm cycle. i don't want to overuse in my map ;w;w;;w;

Kalibe wrote:
Lami's Extra

- 00:19:200 (3) - NC mayb? for better reading, cause it's overlapped with previous slider. i pretty sure anybody won't misread it.
- Uncheck Widescreen. done
- 00:53:700 (1) - Useless NC, really idk why you put here, cause of stream start? yea i prefer insert NC at starting stream part
- 00:56:866 (3,1) - minor - Avoid this overlap maybe? It's not very catchy while playing, but just for tidyness? no it's intentional
- 01:14:366 (4,2) - Stack properly. ok

Garven wrote:
Tick rate 2 fits this song best i just follow mapset's creator

@@ can you add 'intoon' in tags? it's my previous nickname

thx for mod

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Shad0w1and

1,588 posts

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Shad0w1and 2016-01-20T06:16:26+00:00

ok
@Star 图压到5.7以下，别想屁屁跳了，我们药丸

Shad0w1and

1,588 posts

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Shad0w1and 2016-01-20T10:17:43+00:00

@Garven well I do not think those things matter lol
But anyways thanks for inputs. I will figure these out.

Flask

Beatmap Nominator

3,460 posts

Joined July 2011

Flask 2016-01-20T15:23:09+00:00

星R的好像還要改就先不摸了

[Extra]

00:06:866 (1,2) - 這個第一次打的時候有點拐拐的我覺得這樣比較順你試試看(但其實根本沒差多少)
(1) x:346, y:9 (2) x:138, y:105
SPOILER
00:15:533 (4,1) - 有點遠了這個距離好點
SPOILER
00:55:200 (2,1) - 壓到了醜醜
另外嘉文提到的sv跟jump不合問題我也有點感覺(不過不用改沒關係下次要注意下)

[Lami's Extra]

00:41:366 (2,3) - this 1/4 slider seems unnecessary since there's no any rhythm arranged in the same way, so it'd be better if you can keep the 1/2 things consistent by replacing this 1/4 slider with a note

[Little's Insane]

00:03:450 (3) - I know you might considered placing the object like this or not for a long time since it's so special (sliderhead on the blue tick is so wow) but i have to say i don't agree with you bcz it feels so sudden. Well, just because i won't do that in my case doesn't mean you have to change it lol

[ZZHBOY's Hard]

00:05:866 (3,4) - 這間距怎麼變小了能的話疊到00:05:199 (1) - 上吧
00:18:533 (1) - 這個聲音感覺比較接近鼓點, 用自定義的normal-clap試試
00:56:200 - 雖然看的出是copy音效但是因為你這邊沒有跟著鼓點下stream所以vocal聲>鼓點改finish吧

[Advanced]

00:39:033 (2,3) - 這裡我覺得一個1/1slider + 1顆note 比較合音樂
00:56:200 (5) - 同zzhdiff說的這裡沒有跟著鼓點下stream vocal的聲音比較明顯可以改成finish來emphasize
01:09:533 (5,6) - 跟vocal不是很合啊可以和00:58:866 (5,6) - 下一樣的

H->I的spread肯定過不了 (前bn小直覺)
The spread between Hard and Insane is too large, Insane contains a number of 1/2 note jumps and some hard streams, but hard is just a simple hard. Please consider add a diff between them to solve the spread issue. ~~不閒氣的話可以找我做個~~

Shad0w1and

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Topic Starter

Shad0w1and 2016-01-20T15:44:02+00:00

@Little could you plz nerf the stream a bit, like give a reversed slider first then followed by a short stream? For the spread plz ;w;
@flask 我直接叫little改一点算了也行

ZZB
00:05:866 (3,4) - 這間距怎麼變小了能的話疊到00:05:199 (1) - 上吧
other fixed

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Nakano Itsuki

1,218 posts

Joined July 2014

Nakano Itsuki 2016-01-20T17:05:58+00:00

Kalibe

00:04:366 (2,3) -looks fine tbh, and it plays good as well
01:04:200 (3,5) - fixed in previous mod

thx for mod
decreased some of the spacings a bit

asdf

osu file format v14

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Little

2,509 posts

Joined November 2012

Little 2016-01-21T00:43:12+00:00

Kalibe wrote:

Little's Insane

- 00:00:533 (1,4) - How about whistles on these objects? Why?
- 00:06:200 (4) - Why you skip those drums, just why ;w; Stronger emphasis on the important beats.
- 00:20:866 (4,1) - Stack (4) on (1)'s end for tidyness. No.
- 00:54:200 (1) - Any reason for putting here NC? I think it's unnessesary. Mistake. Fixed.

Flask wrote:
[Little's Insane]
00:03:450 (3) - I know you might considered placing the object like this or not for a long time since it's so special (sliderhead on the blue tick is so wow) but i have to say i don't agree with you bcz it feels so sudden. Well, just because i won't do that in my case doesn't mean you have to change it lol Yeah, I was thinking about it. Fixed.

Nerfed one stream.

Thanks.

http://puu.sh/mDuHV/c29a13e710.zip

Lami

1,756 posts

Joined June 2011

Lami 2016-01-21T08:10:58+00:00

Flask wrote:
[Lami's Extra]
00:41:366 (2,3) - this 1/4 slider seems unnecessary since there's no any rhythm arranged in the same way, so it'd be better if you can keep the 1/2 things consistent by replacing this 1/4 slider with a note
i can hear a sound in here
]

thanks mod

chucentry

401 posts

Joined April 2013

chucentry 2016-01-22T03:10:39+00:00

Hi hope this can be helpful <3

extra

00:10:533 (1) - maybe em slider and note ? http://puu.sh/mEMSr/3689e21935.jpg

00:41:200 (1) - change it for 3 notes? the strong jumpy part start here so i think is better make jumps starting here.

00:48:783 - note here

00:57:866 (3) - em maybe this in x:110 y:274 to make a blanket with the stream

01:05:200 (1) - try with ctrl + G if u like it

01:14:533 (1) - try with x:202 y:353

and in general i recomend use lower volume of HS. Like 10% or 20% bcuz is to noisy for the "slow parts of the song"

StarR's Extra

00:01:200 (1) - Finish and more volume in HS

00:02:533 (1) - finish

00:03:866 (1) - ↑

00:05:200 (1) - ↑

00:12:200 (3,4) - change it for a slider

00:14:533 (1) - finish

00:15:533 (5,6,1) - em mmaybe this 00:15:533 (5,6) - ctrl + G and this 00:15:866 (1) - blanket with the new 00:15:533 (5) - http://puu.sh/mEOWR/ef1cf9a34e.jpg

00:19:200 (4) - clap 00:19:200 - and 00:19:366 -

00:30:116 - note here

00:33:033 (5,6) - drum hs here

00:35:866 (1) - finish

00:39:450 - note here

00:46:700 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - looks hard for me this pattern to read and play but maybe is my read. Em if other ppl say something like this u can change it for triples or reverse sldiers

00:48:533 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - the stream stars 00:48:533 -

00:54:200 - remove this green line

00:56:533 - volume to 70%

01:01:200 (1,2,3) - i no listen a triple so change it for a slider

01:04:783 - add a note here maybe u need change the slider

01:12:533 (3,4) - maybe change it to : http://puu.sh/mEQh2/f8efc7bc62.jpg sound a note in 01:12:700 -

01:17:866 - here the kiai finish

01:18:533 (1) - add finish

Lami's Extra

00:07:866 (1) - clap?

01:11:033 (3) - mm note and slider? maybe

01:17:200 (3) - finish

Shad0w1and

1,588 posts

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Shad0w1and 2016-01-22T03:24:01+00:00

chucentry wrote:
Hi hope this can be helpful <3

extra
00:10:533 (1) - maybe em slider and note ? http://puu.sh/mEMSr/3689e21935.jpg

00:41:200 (1) - change it for 3 notes? the strong jumpy part start here so i think is better make jumps starting here.
does not matter imo
00:48:783 - note here good one

00:57:866 (3) - em maybe this in x:110 y:274 to make a blanket with the stream

01:05:200 (1) - try with ctrl + G if u like it

01:14:533 (1) - try with x:202 y:353

and in general i recomend use lower volume of HS. Like 10% or 20% bcuz is to noisy for the "slow parts of the song" reduced that section now is better

thx it is helpfull

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