Tofu1222 wrote:

Better reply Surono's concern first before pushing this further. :3

Surono wrote:

aldiii comeoncomeon

@rinaldi

00:31:415 (31415|2,31592|1,31768|0,31945|1,32121|2,32298|3,32298|1,32474|0,32651|2,32827|1,33003|2,33180|0,33356|2,33533|3,33709|0,33886|3,34062|2,34239|0,34415|3,34592|2,34768|1,34945|2) - This entire section is pretty much identical to the NM, save for one minor difference that isn't that significant. This is a pretty huge problem as not only does this create spread issues but makes the diff itself inconsistent. It feels pretty weird to go from 1/2 single notes here to
1/2 non-stop doubles with added LNs in the kiai for what is essentially the same music but slightly louder. Not sure whether this is a pop-able issue seeing as all it would take to fix is to add a few doubles here and there on the drums, but i'll wait for your response before taking that kind of action.

maksud dia itu bagian ini mirip banget sama tingkat kesulitan si NM, yang beda cuman kecil banget dan ga penting. pokoknya masalah balance di penyebaran notes, coba tanyain kalau ada temen2 kamu buat bantu bagian ini. aku ga sempet buat check wkwkkw

Rivals_7 wrote:

[MX]

01:15:003 - 01:17:827 - bisa tambah note buat synth done

[HD]

00:38:386 (38386|2,38739|3,39092|2,39445|3) - g perlu ada ini. MX udah begini jadinya kejauhan dari NM done

00:39:533 (39533|1) - F soft sampleset done

01:15:003 - 01:17:827 - Liat MX ^ done

01:35:651 - http://puu.sh/z9cb1/08c3da444a.jpg biar g terlalu jauh sama MX dan dibedain dikit dari NM done

[NM]

01:15:003 - 01:17:827 - Liat MX ^ done

[EZ]

ye sip :v

Rivals_7 wrote:

eh ganti tags nya dulu dari newsground -> newgrounds
all diff oke, sudah

smh typo

TheNewBungping wrote:

shouldn't these be triple notes according to your heaviness of this sound on other part? : 00:13:062 and 00:13:768 i think no, because i focus follow the rhythm like this 00:13:062 (13062|3,13062|2,13415|0,13415|2,13768|3,13768|2,14121|2,14121|0) -

rinaldi28 wrote:

TheNewBungping wrote:

shouldn't these be triple notes according to your heaviness of this sound on other part? : 00:13:062 and 00:13:768 i think no, because i focus follow the rhythm like this 00:13:062 (13062|3,13062|2,13415|0,13415|2,13768|3,13768|2,14121|2,14121|0) -

TheNewBungping wrote:

It will cause in consistency though, because on other parts of the map you also put triple notes for the sounds.

rinaldi28 wrote:

TheNewBungping wrote:

It will cause in consistency though, because on other parts of the map you also put triple notes for the sounds.

but, There is also the same note as the example above

TheNewBungping wrote:

I understand that patterning. It just really annoys me when 00:11:651 - , 00:12:356 - , 00:14:474 - , 00:15:180 - , etc are all in triple notes (a.k.a triple chords / hands) , but the ones I said don't. I mean, it's the same sound for both, but for some reasons it's not mapped the same amount of notes.

rinaldi28 wrote:

TheNewBungping wrote:

I understand that patterning. It just really annoys me when 00:11:651 - , 00:12:356 - , 00:14:474 - , 00:15:180 - , etc are all in triple notes (a.k.a triple chords / hands) , but the ones I said don't. I mean, it's the same sound for both, but for some reasons it's not mapped the same amount of notes.

oh ok
but , is my pattern allowed?

Protastic101 wrote:

Tbh I agree with TheNewBungping about the triples but it's a pretty minor inconsistency. Even so though, you should probably try and adhere more strictly to your own chord consistency within the same sections (like 00:11:651 - 00:22:592 - as one section). I won't DQ over it but there's still some other things I'd like to add onto what ping said.

[MX]
00:04:415 (4415|0,4415|2) - The synth here is a lot quieter and lower pitched than the ones like at 00:04:062 (4062|0,4062|2) - 00:00:533 (533|3,533|1) - 00:01:239 (1239|2,1239|0) - to name a few, so I might just leave this as a single. no, i think this is better

00:12:709 - Gonna elaborate on what TheNewBungping mentioned here, I think the reason why he says it's "annoying" to him is because he's used to a set and consistent structure of jump every 1/1 and hands every 2/1, so deviating from that without any indication or change from the music is a bit abrupt to pull on the player, which is why I would suggest having the triples in this measure as well. huh.. well, ok i change if this has disq

00:18:356 - Similar to the above idea and reasoning, you're missing a jump here. Might consider making it [12] and then arranging the next few jumps to not be so heavy on one hand like so https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10133878 ok, i forgot

00:19:592 (19592|3,19592|0) - Move this to [23], the synth is the same pitch as at 00:19:239 (19239|2,19239|1,19415|1,19415|2) - . If accepted, you could make the following notes something like this for better hand balance https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10133892 ok, accepted

00:28:239 (28239|3) - 00:29:474 (29474|2) - 00:30:886 (30886|3) - and so on. For these LNs, they're a bit awkward to time when they're played at their full lengths because the player is required to hit other short notes around it that have different releases which the previous pattern and introduction at 00:24:709 - suggests otherwise and has clean endings. I would shorten the endings then for playability so that the player can release the LN at the same time they hit another one. So it would look like this at times https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10133934 but, how like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10134661 , I think it's better

00:32:298 (32298|2,32298|1,32474|0,32474|3) - For places like this, and I already kind of did it in the last screenshot I gave, I would suggest stacking one of the notes before the downbeat with a note from the next chord because they're the same pitch, so it would look like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10133947 i'm not sure . so, better not to change it

00:39:356 (39356|0) - I'd move this to col 3 for consistency with the 1/2 stacked triplets like at 00:38:121 (38121|3,38298|3,38474|0,38651|0,38827|1,39003|1) - ok

00:38:827 (38827|1,38827|3) - I would make this a single note because the intensity of the music has died down here a bit and the only real percussion is the compressed snare at 00:38:474 (38474|1,38474|0,39180|2,39180|3) - ok

00:50:651 - Missing short note? It's the only time in this entire kiai that there's a 1/1 break and it's a bit unnatural as the player's used to the 1/2 drone acting as a metronome instead. ok, i forgot

01:12:886 - 01:13:239 - Missing notes here for the synth. It's the same as it was at 01:02:121 - albeit a little quieter, but it still exists and I would have them there to act as the player's metronome. The current 1/1 pauses feel a bit long and unnatural considering the intensity of the song at this moment. ok, this is better

01:23:651 (83651|3) - I wouldn't vary this LN and instead have it follow the same pattern as the other LNs in this measure by alternating between [1] and [3]. Then, since the higher pitch synth comes on every 1/1 downbeat, you can use double LNs there for extra emphasis, like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10134076 ok

01:30:974 (90974|0) - This is a ghost note so you can remove it. ok but , how about this? 01:32:386 (92386|2) - and this 01:33:798 (93798|1) - is it deleted too?

01:35:298 - Think it would be ok to add a note in col 3 or something to make this into a double since the snare sound like the one that's heard at 01:34:945 - is also present here. ok. actually, i follow the sound like this 01:34:592 (94592|2,94592|0,94592|1,94945|2,94945|1,95298|3) -

01:35:915 (95915|3,96003|3) - Pretty much the only time in the chart this appears so I would remove the note at 01:35:915 (95915|3) - and just have it go jump -> single -> hand and avoid the minijack as it's a bit unfair to spring on players so far into the map when the chart doesn't even have an emphasis on minijacks, nor has it introduced them at all in the chart so far. how about this ? 01:35:651 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10134776
here 01:35:827 - , this sound a little compared with this 01:35:651 (95651|1,95651|0,95739|2,95739|3) -

01:53:827 - to 02:00:003 - This has all been very rough on the left hand whereas the right hand doesn't really do much. There's a lot of stacks + 1/2 one handed trills on the left hand while the right two columns only have the occasional jump. I'd try to balance out the trills to be on both hands as opposed to only one, and try to alternate stacks between hands ok

02:09:356 (129356|1,129533|1,129709|1,129886|1) - Kind of an unnecessary and uncomfortable stack, so I might rearrange it like so to improve the flow https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10134132 how about this? osu.ppy.sh/ss/10134816


Overall might wanna pay attention to the hand balance and chord size consistency, but I don't think it's too problematic.

Protastic101 wrote:

Alright, dqed so the map can be updated. Im unavailable now and tomorrow but I will try to respond on Wednesday or Thursday afternoon.

Might also be a good time for TheNewBungping to add any comments as it looked like he had some other stuff to mention too

rinaldi28 wrote:

and i have some questions

in here 01:06:003 - should i add note too? yes, but you may need to change your "[14]-[23] jumptrill" pattern that you have going on because it might cause a bit of flow problems
and this 01:11:651 - same this one also needs to be added. just added on the third column and don't change anything else since the pattern here still is flow
and this 00:25:415 - to 00:27:886 - add note for 1/1 ? No since the way you map it you weigh kick as single note not double notes
this 01:19:239 - 01:19:592 - 01:20:651 - 01:22:062 - 01:22:768 - should i add a note? I wouldn't say so, since it will impact the flows and playability of the part. Generally, it should be add for consistency, but in this case it would be a lot more work to do
01:29:651 (89651|1,89651|0,90003|0,90003|1) - add a note like this ? 01:28:062 (88062|0,88062|2,88062|1,88945|1,88945|0,88945|3) - No need since the triple notes that you mentioned are much more like a chord. Even though it's the same type of sound, but the use of sound in the 2 scenarios is different

TheNewBungping wrote:

Protastic101 wrote:

Alright, dqed so the map can be updated. Im unavailable now and tomorrow but I will try to respond on Wednesday or Thursday afternoon.

Might also be a good time for TheNewBungping to add any comments as it looked like he had some other stuff to mention too

OK Thanks

Gonna mod more

also here's my opinion for your question for Protastic

rinaldi28 wrote:

and i have some questions

in here 01:06:003 - should i add note too? yes, but you may need to change your "[14]-[23] jumptrill" pattern that you have going on because it might cause a bit of flow problems
and this 01:11:651 - same this one also needs to be added. just added on the third column and don't change anything else since the pattern here still is flow
and this 00:25:415 - to 00:27:886 - add note for 1/1 ? No since the way you map it you weigh kick as single note not double notes
this 01:19:239 - 01:19:592 - 01:20:651 - 01:22:062 - 01:22:768 - should i add a note? I wouldn't say so, since it will impact the flows and playability of the part. Generally, it should be add for consistency, but in this case it would be a lot more work to do
01:29:651 (89651|1,89651|0,90003|0,90003|1) - add a note like this ? 01:28:062 (88062|0,88062|2,88062|1,88945|1,88945|0,88945|3) - No need since the triple notes that you mentioned are much more like a chord. Even though it's the same type of sound, but the use of sound in the 2 scenarios is different

1|2|3|4

More mod on MX (tbh it might just be minor issues)

00:39:356 (39356|0,39445|1) - these are unflow to me since there are 00:39:003 (39003|1,39092|0) - prior to it. Not a big problem, but would be better if the notes on 00:39:356 were to move from 1st and 2nd column to 2nd and 3rd column

01:17:827 - the note on 3 should be LN and needs to be end at 01:18:003 - (This is for of the consistency of the use of guitar sounds to map this part)

01:20:121 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10139017 because of the notes I highlighted. it made this part somewhat unflow, a solution would be to move a note on 3 to 2 in 01:20:474 -

Hope this help

Draftnell wrote:

sudah kuduga wkwkk

Amiichii wrote:

mangats um ^^

Rivals_7 wrote:

[MX]

01:54:886 (114886|0,114886|3,115062|2,115062|1) - should be stacked in the same place. refer what have you did in the rest of it like - 01:47:827 (107827|1,107827|2,108003|1,108003|2) - 01:49:239 (109239|2,109239|1,109415|1,109415|2) - 01:50:651 (110651|2,110651|3,110827|3,110827|2) - etc

01:56:298 (116298|2,116298|3,116474|0,116474|1) - same

blm recheck HS deng, tapi cek sendiri aja dulu kalo2 ada yg messed le