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Protastic101
Im comparing all diff's hitsounds to the MX

If I just list a letter, that means you're missing that sample and should add it.

[EZ]
The hitsounds are kind of inconsistent cause you could have included every hitsound on every single note placed if you want, but there's a lot of missing stuff.

00:19:062 (19062|3) - missing w/f
00:11:298 (11298|2) - w
00:19:062 (19062|3) - f
00:19:768 (19768|1) - ^
00:21:886 (21886|0) - w
00:39:533 (39533|1) - c
01:06:356 (66356|0) - remove f
01:12:003 (72003|3) - ^
01:25:239 (85239|1,86651|2,88062|1,90886|2,92298|2,93709|1,94592|0) - f

00:25:415 (25415|1,25768|2,26121|0,26474|2,26827|3,27180|1,27533|0,27886|2,28239|1,28592|3,29298|1,29474|2,30003|0,30709|2,31415|3,32121|1) - remove all finishes (replace with whistle if there isn't one already) to be consistent with the top diff. Or, in the MX, add finishes
00:34:239 - to 00:38:474 - ^


[NM]
00:00:004 (4|1) - w/f
00:00:709 (709|0) - w/f
00:00:356 (356|2) - w
00:00:709 (709|0) - w/f
00:01:239 (1239|2,1592|3) - f
00:01:062 (1062|3,1768|1,2474|2,3180|3,3886|2,4592|1,5298|2,6003|1,6709|2,7415|0,8121|0,8827|0,9533|1,10239|2,10945|3,11651|0,12356|1) - w/f
00:02:121 (2121|0,2827|1,3533|0,4945|3,5651|0,6356|3,7768|2,8474|3,9180|2) - w/f
00:04:062 (4062|0,4415|0,6886|0,7239|1,9709|2,10062|0) - f
These are just some examples within the first 15 ish seconds of the diff, and they apply not only to these places but others.

There's really too many hitsound inconsistencies for me to go over in one mod, and this is just the first 2 diffs. Please double check them yourself by referencing the MX diff and ensuring that all hitsounds are added where applicable. I'd suggest clearing all the hitsounds and then just using Dudehacker's HS copier to copy over all the hitsounds to the rest of the diffs and deleting any SB samples (can be viewed through tab) that happen. This will make the hitsounds as consistent as possible as each difficulty will have the same hitsounds on the same notes.
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6472510

Protastic101 wrote:

Im comparing all diff's hitsounds to the MX

If I just list a letter, that means you're missing that sample and should add it.

[EZ]
The hitsounds are kind of inconsistent cause you could have included every hitsound on every single note placed if you want, but there's a lot of missing stuff.

00:19:062 (19062|3) - missing w/f done
00:11:298 (11298|2) - w done
00:19:062 (19062|3) - f done
00:19:768 (19768|1) - ^ done
00:21:886 (21886|0) - w done
00:39:533 (39533|1) - c done i added 1 note for this hitsound
01:06:356 (66356|0) - remove f done
01:12:003 (72003|3) - ^ done
01:25:239 (85239|1,86651|2,88062|1,90886|2,92298|2,93709|1,94592|0) - f done

00:25:415 (25415|1,25768|2,26121|0,26474|2,26827|3,27180|1,27533|0,27886|2,28239|1,28592|3,29298|1,29474|2,30003|0,30709|2,31415|3,32121|1) - remove all finishes (replace with whistle if there isn't one already) to be consistent with the top diff. Or, in the MX, add finishes done
00:34:239 - to 00:38:474 - ^ done


[NM]
00:00:004 (4|1) - w/f done
00:00:709 (709|0) - w/f done
00:00:356 (356|2) - w done
00:00:709 (709|0) - w/f done
00:01:239 (1239|2,1592|3) - f done
00:01:062 (1062|3,1768|1,2474|2,3180|3,3886|2,4592|1,5298|2,6003|1,6709|2,7415|0,8121|0,8827|0,9533|1,10239|2,10945|3,11651|0,12356|1) - w/f
00:02:121 (2121|0,2827|1,3533|0,4945|3,5651|0,6356|3,7768|2,8474|3,9180|2) - w/f done
00:04:062 (4062|0,4415|0,6886|0,7239|1,9709|2,10062|0) - f done
These are just some examples within the first 15 ish seconds of the diff, and they apply not only to these places but others.

There's really too many hitsound inconsistencies for me to go over in one mod, and this is just the first 2 diffs. Please double check them yourself by referencing the MX diff and ensuring that all hitsounds are added where applicable. I'd suggest clearing all the hitsounds and then just using Dudehacker's HS copier to copy over all the hitsounds to the rest of the diffs and deleting any SB samples (can be viewed through tab) that happen. This will make the hitsounds as consistent as possible as each difficulty will have the same hitsounds on the same notes.
ok i will rechecking my hitsounds :D
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6472510
UPDATED
Rivals_7
top 10 epic comeback

[HD]

00:02:121 (2121|1) - tambah W juga. jgn F doang lo. liat MX
00:04:592 (4592|1) - F^
00:11:298 (11298|1) - F
00:11:651 (11651|2) - W
00:12:356 (12356|1) - 00:14:121 (14121|1) - W

01:12:886 (72886|1,73239|1) - this note is not exist on MX. just fyi. would be a good thing if its changed

01:14:651 (74651|2) - this LN shoulda end 1/4 earlier (red line on below). refer something similar to - 01:17:474 (77474|0) -

01:21:886 (81886|3) -

HD -> MX
01:22:592 (82592|2) - similar ^
01:30:533 (90533|2) - 01:31:239 (91239|0) - 01:31:592 (91592|2) - 01:31:945 (91945|2) - 01:32:474 (92474|0) - 01:32:651 (92651|2,92827|3,93003|2) - 01:33:356 (93356|2,93533|1) - 01:33:886 (93886|3) - 01:34:062 (94062|1,94239|0,94415|1) - F
01:40:945 (100945|1,101298|2) - W
01:46:062 (106062|1) - F

[NM]
00:00:356 (356|2) - C
00:01:768 (1768|1) - C
00:01:062 (1062|3) - C
00:02:474 (2474|2) - C
pokoknya yg ente masukin itu WF ada C nya juga harusnya. bisa compare sih dengan MX


00:11:298 (11298|1) - WF
00:11:651 (11651|0) - 00:12:356 (12356|1) - F jadiin C
00:19:768 (19768|1) - F
00:21:533 (21533|3) - W
00:33:886 (33886|2) - remove F la
00:38:121 (38121|1) - C
00:38:474 (38474|1) - C
00:38:651 (38651|3) - 00:39:003 (39003|0) - W
00:38:827 (38827|2) - 00:39:180 (39180|1) - C
00:39:533 (39533|3) - hapus W
dst mungkin w byk g ngeliat tapi bisa lu cek sendiri sih

[EZ]

00:29:474 (29474|2) - so uh i'm kinda not a fan of odd releases especially on EZ. Releasing LN from - 00:29:827 - then transitioning back is kinda weird to do it for beginner as its require correct timing and beginner mostly dont have that, yet. so here's a suggestion

you can change the pattern all you like to fit. just dont use odd LN release. Jangan lupa hitsoundnya

00:30:886 (30886|1) - ^ dst

01:21:886 (81886|3,82592|1) - i would like to change this to Short Note instead. the reason is same as ^ first mod. you got nothing to indicate transitio at - 01:22:415 and - 01:23:121 - so yeah. odd release

pls bother me if u want qualify after prot bub. maybe

2 years, fullspread and HS by yourself and 2 mins wew (and its not TV size :0)
high effort should be rewarded well
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6472510

Rivals_7 wrote:

top 10 epic comeback

[HD]

00:02:121 (2121|1) - tambah W juga. jgn F doang lo. liat MX done
00:04:592 (4592|1) - F^ done
00:11:298 (11298|1) - F done
00:11:651 (11651|2) - W done
00:12:356 (12356|1) - 00:14:121 (14121|1) - W done

01:12:886 (72886|1,73239|1) - this note is not exist on MX. just fyi. would be a good thing if its changed done

01:14:651 (74651|2) - this LN shoulda end 1/4 earlier (red line on below). refer something similar to - 01:17:474 (77474|0) - done

01:21:886 (81886|3) -

HD -> MX done
01:22:592 (82592|2) - similar ^ done
01:30:533 (90533|2) - 01:31:239 (91239|0) - 01:31:592 (91592|2) - 01:31:945 (91945|2) - 01:32:474 (92474|0) - 01:32:651 (92651|2,92827|3,93003|2) - 01:33:356 (93356|2,93533|1) - 01:33:886 (93886|3) - 01:34:062 (94062|1,94239|0,94415|1) - F done
01:40:945 (100945|1,101298|2) - W done
01:46:062 (106062|1) - F done

[NM]
00:00:356 (356|2) - C done
00:01:768 (1768|1) - C done
00:01:062 (1062|3) - C done
00:02:474 (2474|2) - C done
pokoknya yg ente masukin itu WF ada C nya juga harusnya. bisa compare sih dengan MX


00:11:298 (11298|1) - WF done
00:11:651 (11651|0) - 00:12:356 (12356|1) - F jadiin C done
00:19:768 (19768|1) - F done
00:21:533 (21533|3) - W done
00:33:886 (33886|2) - remove F la done
00:38:121 (38121|1) - C done
00:38:474 (38474|1) - C done
00:38:651 (38651|3) - 00:39:003 (39003|0) - Wdone
00:38:827 (38827|2) - 00:39:180 (39180|1) - C done
00:39:533 (39533|3) - hapus W done
dst mungkin w byk g ngeliat tapi bisa lu cek sendiri sih done

[EZ]

00:29:474 (29474|2) - so uh i'm kinda not a fan of odd releases especially on EZ. Releasing LN from - 00:29:827 - then transitioning back is kinda weird to do it for beginner as its require correct timing and beginner mostly dont have that, yet. so here's a suggestion

you can change the pattern all you like to fit. just dont use odd LN release. Jangan lupa hitsoundnya done

00:30:886 (30886|1) - ^ dst done

01:21:886 (81886|3,82592|1) - i would like to change this to Short Note instead. the reason is same as ^ first mod. you got nothing to indicate transitio at - 01:22:415 and - 01:23:121 - so yeah. odd release done

pls bother me if u want qualify after prot bub. maybe

2 years, fullspread and HS by yourself and 2 mins wew (and its not TV size :0)
high effort should be rewarded well
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6472510
UPDATED
Rivals_7
havent see MX so lets take a look a bit

[MX]

00:30:886 (30886|1) - move to 4. pmuch to avoid - 00:30:533 (30533|1,30709|1,30886|1) -

00:31:945 (31945|1,32121|2) - ctrl+g. likewise as before - 00:31:592 (31592|1,31768|1,31945|1) -

01:01:062 (61062|1,61239|1,61415|1,61592|1) - 02:08:827 (128827|2,129003|2,129180|2,129356|2) - um think you can rearrange for a little bit here?

01:19:945 - the new melody start here. in short, you have to do it more or same like this

Applies this on HD and NM as well

[HD]

02:09:709 (129709|1) - W
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6472510

Rivals_7 wrote:

havent see MX so lets take a look a bit

[MX]

00:30:886 (30886|1) - move to 4. pmuch to avoid - 00:30:533 (30533|1,30709|1,30886|1) - done

00:31:945 (31945|1,32121|2) - ctrl+g. likewise as before - 00:31:592 (31592|1,31768|1,31945|1) - done

01:01:062 (61062|1,61239|1,61415|1,61592|1) - 02:08:827 (128827|2,129003|2,129180|2,129356|2) - um think you can rearrange for a little bit here? done

01:19:945 - the new melody start here. in short, you have to do it more or same like this done just add note at 01:19:945 - right?

Applies this on HD and NM as welldone

[HD]

02:09:709 (129709|1) - W done
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6472510
UPDATED
Rivals_7
01:19:945 - uh no thats not what i meant
i was meant for you to change
http://puu.sh/z0HBF/46e1830265.jpg
into
http://puu.sh/z0HDs/ec2496e45f.jpg

basically the LN length that you have to change. not adding another note
again dont forget to HD and NM
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6472510

Rivals_7 wrote:

01:19:945 - uh no thats not what i meant
i was meant for you to change
http://puu.sh/z0HBF/46e1830265.jpg
into
http://puu.sh/z0HDs/ec2496e45f.jpg ok done

basically the LN length that you have to change. not adding another note
again dont forget to HD and NM
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6472510
UPDATED
Rivals_7
another 10 months bubble :^)
jk i hope not
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6472510

Rivals_7 wrote:

another 10 months bubble :^)
jk i hope not
Thanks you! :3
Weber
hi

EZ

02:05:298 (125298|1) - Consider moving this over to column 3, it's pretty empty for a while here.


NM

01:03:886 (63886|1) - Like above, move to column 1 for hand balance

01:45:356 (105356|1) - ^, column 1


HD

00:16:945 - Should be a double.

00:21:886 - ^

00:22:592 - This section till 00:37:945 - is sorely missing doubles on the drums, i'll go into why this is a pretty big issue below.

00:18:180 (18180|2) - ^, column 1

00:31:415 (31415|2,31592|1,31768|0,31945|1,32121|2,32298|3,32298|1,32474|0,32651|2,32827|1,33003|2,33180|0,33356|2,33533|3,33709|0,33886|3,34062|2,34239|0,34415|3,34592|2,34768|1,34945|2) - This entire section is pretty much identical to the NM, save for one minor difference that isn't that significant. This is a pretty huge problem as not only does this create spread issues but makes the diff itself inconsistent. It feels pretty weird to go from 1/2 single notes here to
1/2 non-stop doubles with added LNs in the kiai for what is essentially the same music but slightly louder. Not sure whether this is a pop-able issue seeing as all it would take to fix is to add a few doubles here and there on the drums, but i'll wait for your response before taking that kind of action.


MX

00:27:709 (27709|2,27886|2) - Move to 4 for hand balance.

01:35:651 (95651|1,95739|2,95827|1,95915|2) - These should definitely be doubles.

01:46:945 - and 01:47:121 - Should also be doubles.
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6472510

Weber wrote:

hi

EZ

02:05:298 (125298|1) - Consider moving this over to column 3, it's pretty empty for a while here. done


NM

01:03:886 (63886|1) - Like above, move to column 1 for hand balance done

01:45:356 (105356|1) - ^, column 1 done


HD

00:16:945 - Should be a double. done

00:21:886 - ^ done

00:22:592 - This section till 00:37:945 - is sorely missing doubles on the drums, i'll go into why this is a pretty big issue below. done

00:18:180 (18180|2) - ^, column 1 done

00:31:415 (31415|2,31592|1,31768|0,31945|1,32121|2,32298|3,32298|1,32474|0,32651|2,32827|1,33003|2,33180|0,33356|2,33533|3,33709|0,33886|3,34062|2,34239|0,34415|3,34592|2,34768|1,34945|2) - This entire section is pretty much identical to the NM, save for one minor difference that isn't that significant. This is a pretty huge problem as not only does this create spread issues but makes the diff itself inconsistent. It feels pretty weird to go from 1/2 single notes here to
1/2 non-stop doubles with added LNs in the kiai for what is essentially the same music but slightly louder. Not sure whether this is a pop-able issue seeing as all it would take to fix is to add a few doubles here and there on the drums, but i'll wait for your response before taking that kind of action. hmm, can you give me example pict? what should I change?


MX

00:27:709 (27709|2,27886|2) - Move to 4 for hand balance. done

01:35:651 (95651|1,95739|2,95827|1,95915|2) - These should definitely be doubles. done

01:46:945 - and 01:47:121 - Should also be doubles. done
Surono
aldiii comeoncomeon :)

@rinaldi

00:31:415 (31415|2,31592|1,31768|0,31945|1,32121|2,32298|3,32298|1,32474|0,32651|2,32827|1,33003|2,33180|0,33356|2,33533|3,33709|0,33886|3,34062|2,34239|0,34415|3,34592|2,34768|1,34945|2) - This entire section is pretty much identical to the NM, save for one minor difference that isn't that significant. This is a pretty huge problem as not only does this create spread issues but makes the diff itself inconsistent. It feels pretty weird to go from 1/2 single notes here to
1/2 non-stop doubles with added LNs in the kiai for what is essentially the same music but slightly louder. Not sure whether this is a pop-able issue seeing as all it would take to fix is to add a few doubles here and there on the drums, but i'll wait for your response before taking that kind of action.

maksud dia itu bagian ini mirip banget sama tingkat kesulitan si NM, yang beda cuman kecil banget dan ga penting. pokoknya masalah balance di penyebaran notes, coba tanyain kalau ada temen2 kamu buat bantu bagian ini. aku ga sempet buat check wkwkkw
Weber
Sorry for the delay, thanks for the clarification Surono.

Here are a few examples for what I mean (left column is NM, right column is HD)

00:22:592
00:22:592 -

00:28:592
00:28:592 -

00:32:857
00:32:857 - (this one is pretty huge, considering the NM actually looks harder)

The problem is that the difficulties are too similar between 00:22:592 - to 00:24:709 - as well as 00:28:592 - to 00:37:945 - due to a lack of density in the HD.

I think this can be easily fixed by adding some doubles in the HD to the main drums in these sections to better differentiate the difficulties. For example: At 00:22:945 - 00:23:651 - 00:24:356 - 00:28:592 - 00:28:945 - 00:29:298 - 00:30:003 - 00:30:356 - 00:30:709 - (you kinda get the idea from here on, 1/1 doubles on the drums)

I will end up popping as I think these sections will need to be significantly adjusted to cater for the new density, but i'll renominate as soon as this issue is resolved. Call me back!
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6472510

Weber wrote:

Sorry for the delay, thanks for the clarification Surono.

Here are a few examples for what I mean (left column is NM, right column is HD)

00:22:592
00:22:592 - [img]https://puu.sh/z5C4R/794fba82a0.png[/img done ]

00:28:592
00:28:592 - done

00:32:857
00:32:857 - (this one is pretty huge, considering the NM actually looks harder) done

The problem is that the difficulties are too similar between 00:22:592 - to 00:24:709 - as well as 00:28:592 - to 00:37:945 - due to a lack of density in the HD. done

I think this can be easily fixed by adding some doubles in the HD to the main drums in these sections to better differentiate the difficulties. For example: At 00:22:945 - 00:23:651 - 00:24:356 - 00:28:592 - 00:28:945 - 00:29:298 - 00:30:003 - 00:30:356 - 00:30:709 - (you kinda get the idea from here on, 1/1 doubles on the drums) done

I will end up popping as I think these sections will need to be significantly adjusted to cater for the new density, but i'll renominate as soon as this issue is resolved. Call me back! done
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6472510
UPDATED
Weber
Looks much better, well done! Nominated!
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6472510

Weber wrote:

Looks much better, well done! Nominated!
thanks you thanks yoy thanks you! Weber !!! xD
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6472510
one more step ><
Shima Rin
Better reply Surono's concern first before pushing this further. :3
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6472510

Tofu1222 wrote:

Better reply Surono's concern first before pushing this further. :3
i m done to say "thanks you very much!" at PM surono xD
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6472510

Surono wrote:

aldiii comeoncomeon :)

@rinaldi

00:31:415 (31415|2,31592|1,31768|0,31945|1,32121|2,32298|3,32298|1,32474|0,32651|2,32827|1,33003|2,33180|0,33356|2,33533|3,33709|0,33886|3,34062|2,34239|0,34415|3,34592|2,34768|1,34945|2) - This entire section is pretty much identical to the NM, save for one minor difference that isn't that significant. This is a pretty huge problem as not only does this create spread issues but makes the diff itself inconsistent. It feels pretty weird to go from 1/2 single notes here to
1/2 non-stop doubles with added LNs in the kiai for what is essentially the same music but slightly louder. Not sure whether this is a pop-able issue seeing as all it would take to fix is to add a few doubles here and there on the drums, but i'll wait for your response before taking that kind of action.

maksud dia itu bagian ini mirip banget sama tingkat kesulitan si NM, yang beda cuman kecil banget dan ga penting. pokoknya masalah balance di penyebaran notes, coba tanyain kalau ada temen2 kamu buat bantu bagian ini. aku ga sempet buat check wkwkkw
THANKS YOU SURONO!! <3

maaf ya tadi lupa ngereply wkwk soalnya kan udh bilang makasih lewat pm xD
Surono
buset dah wkwwkwk

good luck good luck~
Rivals_7
[MX]

01:15:003 - 01:17:827 - bisa tambah note buat synth

[HD]

00:38:386 (38386|2,38739|3,39092|2,39445|3) - g perlu ada ini. MX udah begini jadinya kejauhan dari NM

00:39:533 (39533|1) - F soft sampleset

01:15:003 - 01:17:827 - Liat MX ^

01:35:651 - http://puu.sh/z9cb1/08c3da444a.jpg biar g terlalu jauh sama MX dan dibedain dikit dari NM

[NM]

01:15:003 - 01:17:827 - Liat MX ^

[EZ]

ye
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6472510

Rivals_7 wrote:

[MX]

01:15:003 - 01:17:827 - bisa tambah note buat synth done

[HD]

00:38:386 (38386|2,38739|3,39092|2,39445|3) - g perlu ada ini. MX udah begini jadinya kejauhan dari NM done

00:39:533 (39533|1) - F soft sampleset done

01:15:003 - 01:17:827 - Liat MX ^ done

01:35:651 - http://puu.sh/z9cb1/08c3da444a.jpg biar g terlalu jauh sama MX dan dibedain dikit dari NM done

[NM]

01:15:003 - 01:17:827 - Liat MX ^ done

[EZ]

ye sip :v
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6472510
UPDATED
Rivals_7
eh ganti tags nya dulu dari newsground -> newgrounds
all diff

smh typo
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6472510

Rivals_7 wrote:

eh ganti tags nya dulu dari newsground -> newgrounds
all diff oke, sudah

smh typo
Rivals_7
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Weber
grats!
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6472510
omg! thanks for all support from all of you ><
Surono
finale da time, selamaaat ya!
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6472510
makasih surono :3 wkwk
[Ping]
shouldn't these be triple notes according to your heaviness of this sound on other part? : 00:13:062 and 00:13:768
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6472510

TheNewBungping wrote:

shouldn't these be triple notes according to your heaviness of this sound on other part? : 00:13:062 and 00:13:768 i think no, because i focus follow the rhythm like this 00:13:062 (13062|3,13062|2,13415|0,13415|2,13768|3,13768|2,14121|2,14121|0) -
[Ping]

rinaldi28 wrote:

TheNewBungping wrote:

shouldn't these be triple notes according to your heaviness of this sound on other part? : 00:13:062 and 00:13:768 i think no, because i focus follow the rhythm like this 00:13:062 (13062|3,13062|2,13415|0,13415|2,13768|3,13768|2,14121|2,14121|0) -
It will cause in consistency though, because on other parts of the map you also put triple notes for the sounds.
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