Fremy Speeddraw (CV: Yuuki Aoi) - Nameless Heart(TV edit.)

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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2017年6月25日 at 21:16:04

Artist: Fremy Speeddraw (CV: Yuuki Aoi)
Title: Nameless Heart(TV edit.)
Source: 六花の勇者
Tags: Pata-Mon rokka no yuusha braves of the six flowers ending tv size
BPM: 88
Filesize: 9267kb
Play Time: 01:29
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (2.72 stars, 178 notes)
  2. Isolation (4.23 stars, 220 notes)
  3. Pata-Mon's Insane (3.81 stars, 204 notes)
  4. Pata-Mon's Normal (1.74 stars, 128 notes)


Download: Fremy Speeddraw (CV: Yuuki Aoi) - Nameless Heart(TV edit.)
Download: Fremy Speeddraw (CV: Yuuki Aoi) - Nameless Heart(TV edit.) (no video)
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六花の勇者 ed3

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Thanks to
-- Shad0w1and for providing neat mp3 and video
-- Pata-Mon for guest diffs
-- and also warm hearted guys for their mods and helps!
Pata-Mon
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[ Pata-Mon's Normal ]
只能负责喊666

[ Hard ]
01:19:930 (5,1) - 可以包好点(真的没地方水啦233)
01:24:702 (4,5) - 这里可以跟2,3一样拆开,不叠着
00:23:850 - 感觉这里可以加一个圈,因为红线那里感觉唱起来是一个连音,现在这样打起来感觉空空的,00:32:202 (2,3,4) - 做成类似这样感觉的

[ Pata-Mon's Insane ]
01:01:861 (2) - 这个打起来稍微不太舒服,感觉跳的太大了点,然后节奏上我个人感觉01:01:521 (1,2,3,4,5) - 改成
或者就做成和01:12:430 (1,2,3,4) - 这一组同样的节奏啊

[ Isolation ]
00:31:009 (7) - Ctrl+g?

QWQ说实话,我都只能喊666
_MiaoFUuU_
最近有点懒,不过让我水图还是可以的 :P

Isolation

  1. 00:16:521 (4,5) - 这两个改成滑条拖人声吧
  2. 00:17:884 (1) - 这里不要折返
  3. 00:19:930 (3) - 这个改成折返 00:20:441 (4,1) - 删掉 00:20:952 - 加圈,有你要的效果
  4. 00:24:702 (4) - 这个不建议这样藏,可以并排放这个00:25:043 (5) - 旁边
  5. 00:28:111 (6,7,1) - 和前面提过的一样
  6. 00:30:498 (6) - 这里做成折返删了后面那个滑条吧
  7. 00:32:714 (3) - 一个圈圈就可以了和这里一样00:34:077 (6) -

Pata-Mon's Insane

  1. 00:17:202 (6,7) - 这两个距离太小 00:17:714 (7) - 这里改成圈圈好点,然后放在圆形滑条中间
  2. 00:20:271 (4) - 这个换滑条就行了,后面的删了
  3. 00:28:623 (7) - 这里换成圈 103 258(明白滑条表达人声,但是这个滑条实在太短而且头尾两个音会显得很怪)
  4. 00:32:714 (3) -
  5. 00:45:668 (2,6) - 太贴

Hard

  1. 00:59:134 (2,3,4) - 这3个要不要上色
  2. 01:25:896 - 静音一下

Pata-Mon's Normal

  1. 00:59:305 (2) - 不要折返 00:59:816 - 这里放按的,滑条+圈或者滑条折返
Misure
刚刚打个图 断的比较气 一锤子下去笔坏了。
扯了点别的 还是来水个摸
[Isolation]
  1. 00:05:782 (2,3) - 搞事情 ctrl+g怎么样
  2. 00:06:293 (5,6) - 这两个用中心对称的感觉舒服一点
  3. 00:25:384 (6) - 这个把尾巴放在00:23:850 (2) - 的位置上感觉比较好 啊这里是摆不下了 我是这个意思 flow
  4. 00:48:736 (3,4) - 这两个反向的话有点倾向00:47:373 (6,1) - 也反向

[Pata-Mon's Insane]
  1. 00:17:714 (7) - flow向左倾斜一下?
  2. 00:38:339 (4) - 这里突然切逆时针有点不舒服 ctrl+g?
  3. 01:09:702 (1) - 可以考虑换个方向形状什么的 和01:09:021 (3) - 对称总感觉这下重音没突出

[Pata-Mon's Normal]
  1. 开头这段我感觉按排列NC也不错 就是在00:03:566 - 00:04:930 - 之类的地方 新手可能感觉会比较舒服


美丽 祝好运 :)
Shad0w1and
我啥时候压的这套。。。。
存粹当送摸吧

[iso]
00:05:952 (3) - 钝角间距加大虽然不是问题但明明没有特别的音感觉很奇怪,即使是这样也正常点(水摸)
00:17:202 (6) - 理解没snap上vocal,但是前面都是00:15:157 (1,2,3) - vocal,这里即使snap不完美,也应该继续靠近vocal beat结束在00:17:543 - ,按照kibb的话vocalist犯错我们应该继续跟intended rhythm
00:24:702 (4) - nc
即使nc之后也建议00:25:043 - 降低间距
00:30:498 (6) - nc
00:34:248 (1,2) - 建议reverse slider
00:37:316 - 建议
00:52:827 - 建议延长reverse slider跟piano,否则用6,7stack
00:54:361 - 考虑
kiai考虑2拍一nc,因为你高潮是nc跳

[啪嗒萌]
00:17:884 (1) - 建议移出来一点,读图帮助巨大
后略
[硬]
01:26:066 (7) - nc
Topic Starter
Garden

[ Abhor ] wrote:

[ Hard ]
01:19:930 (5,1) - 可以包好点(真的没地方水啦233) 调整了一下
01:24:702 (4,5) - 这里可以跟2,3一样拆开,不叠着 和2,3不一样,这里是同一个重音我就叠着了
00:23:850 - 感觉这里可以加一个圈,因为红线那里感觉唱起来是一个连音,现在这样打起来感觉空空的,00:32:202 (2,3,4) - 做成类似这样感觉的 好的

[ Isolation ]
00:31:009 (7) - Ctrl+g? 现在顺时针挺顺的啊

QWQ说实话,我都只能喊666 QWQ

_MiaoFUuU_ wrote:

最近有点懒,不过让我水图还是可以的 :P谢啦

Isolation

  1. 00:16:521 (4,5) - 这两个改成滑条拖人声吧 有钢琴就优先,人声尽力照顾
  2. 00:17:884 (1) - 这里不要折返 不想塞个巨长的滑条,我感觉这里这样下也无伤大雅,不过会再考虑
  3. 00:19:930 (3) - 这个改成折返 00:20:441 (4,1) - 删掉 00:20:952 - 加圈,有你要的效果 这样顾及不到1/8的钢琴啊
  4. 00:24:702 (4) - 这个不建议这样藏,可以并排放这个00:25:043 (5) - 旁边 换了一种排法不知效果如何,并排太近了
  5. 00:28:111 (6,7,1) - 和前面提过的一样 钢琴钢琴
  6. 00:30:498 (6) - 这里做成折返删了后面那个滑条吧 可能snap不是很明确但我觉得后面vocal应该是在蓝线上
  7. 00:32:714 (3) - 一个圈圈就可以了和这里一样00:34:077 (6) - 一个有1/8上的钢琴

Hard

  1. 00:59:134 (2,3,4) - 这3个要不要上色 忘了xD
  2. 01:25:896 - 静音一下 降低了音量

Misure wrote:

刚刚打个图 断的比较气 一锤子下去笔坏了。 屙屎要注意安全 :|
扯了点别的 还是来水个摸
[Isolation]
  1. 00:05:782 (2,3) - 搞事情 ctrl+g怎么样 刚开头,不敢搞
  2. 00:06:293 (5,6) - 这两个用中心对称的感觉舒服一点 不习惯copypaste, 总之转了一点6
  3. 00:25:384 (6) - 这个把尾巴放在00:23:850 (2) - 的位置上感觉比较好 啊这里是摆不下了 我是这个意思 flow 这里我还得再考虑一下.. 5->6间距减小的话是合降低的音调,姑且暂时换了种摆法
  4. 00:48:736 (3,4) - 这两个反向的话有点倾向00:47:373 (6,1) - 也反向 有意的,前者反向增加间距是突出钢琴音调的转变

美丽 祝好运 :):D

Shad0w1and wrote:

我啥时候压的这套。。。。longlongago
存粹当送摸吧
hao
[iso]
00:05:952 (3) - 钝角间距加大虽然不是问题但明明没有特别的音感觉很奇怪,即使是这样也正常点(水摸)强调一下这里想分成两组,反正打起来不困难
00:17:202 (6) - 理解没snap上vocal,但是前面都是00:15:157 (1,2,3) - vocal,这里即使snap不完美,也应该继续靠近vocal beat结束在00:17:543 - ,按照kibb的话vocalist犯错我们应该继续跟intended rhythm 改了
00:24:702 (4) - nc 改了
即使nc之后也建议00:25:043 - 降低间距 节奏密度很小问题不大
00:30:498 (6) - nc 调整了一下
00:34:248 (1,2) - 建议reverse slider 想让那个whistle的地方clickable
00:37:316 - 建议 中间vocal和piano都有短促停止,分成两部分比较好
00:52:827 - 建议延长reverse slider跟piano,否则用6,7stack 个人觉得这样跟也可,stack感觉有点突兀
00:54:361 - 考虑 着重跟这里加重的钢琴音,连续两组保持一致
kiai考虑2拍一nc,因为你高潮是nc跳 改了

[硬]
01:26:066 (7) - nc
谢谢大家! :)
kunka
Hiii
General

  1. About the last spinner: Only normal diff terminates in the different time. Other diff is finished in 1/8( 01:29:390 - ), but think that I don't have any problem in 01:29:475 - of the normal diff. I think that I don't have any problem about changing all diff to the 01:29:475 -
Isolation

  1. 00:30:498 (1,2,3) - Would you carry out a blanket? It thinks me to be clean placement. https://puu.sh/vNCBS.jpg
  2. 00:45:668 (2) - I think that a sound of the 00:46:180 - is necessary. try this https://puu.sh/vNCOD.jpg
  3. 00:52:486 (6) - fm,,I didn't know what sound you picked up. I think enough just to change the 00:51:975 (5) - to the reverse.
  4. 00:54:361 (3) - Would you switch to vocal follow? Because it becomes the vocal follow in conjunction with 00:52:998 (7) - , I recommend it. https://puu.sh/vND9T.jpg
  5. 01:10:384 (3) - Because this sound is really strong, You can still jump~ And I think that finish has a good sound.
  6. 01:11:236 (2,2) - Finish is noisy tbh lol. I think that whistle is enough.
  7. 01:21:293 (3) - I recommend that I pick up a piano sound. Would you switch to 1/4 slider*2?
  8. 01:25:952 (2) - Would you add a whistle to 01:25:952 - only?
Pata-Mon's Insane

  1. 01:05:611 (1,2) - Would you change it by ctrl+g? You pick up good vocal follow by 01:04:248 (1) - and 01:04:930 (3) - . I think that a similar slider is good for 01:05:611 (1) - .
Hard

  1. 00:20:611 (1) - I recommend that I pick up a piano sound by 1/2 reverse slider.
  2. 00:21:805 (3) - It's the same as the above. I change the 00:21:634 (2) - to the 1/4 slider and recommend that I change the 00:21:805 (3) - to the 1/2 slider. https://puu.sh/vNEvm.jpg
  3. 00:51:805 (3) - fmm,,Is this necessary? I think that 00:51:123 - needs a circle.
Pata-Mon's Normal

  1. 00:24:702 (5) - I think that 1/2 reverse slider is better.
  2. 00:30:157 (3) - I felt a sense of incongruity in rhythm. It's because a vocal begins with 00:30:498 - . I move 00:30:157 (3) - to 00:30:498 - and recommend that I add a circle to 00:30:157 -
I think it to be the map set which is high in completeness overall. gl ;)
Pata-Mon
@阿伯 那里我想强调01:01:861 - 这个vocal,并且背景音乐里01:02:373 (3,4,5) - 有三个音而白线没有

_MiaoFUuU_ wrote:

Pata-Mon's Insane

  1. 00:17:202 (6,7) - 这两个距离太小 00:17:714 (7) - 这里改成圈圈好点,然后放在圆形滑条中间 这俩是正常ds啊.然后不觉得圈好,这些短话条还有表现钢琴的意思在,后面也是
  2. 00:20:271 (4) - 这个换滑条就行了,后面的删了
  3. 00:28:623 (7) - 这里换成圈 103 258(明白滑条表达人声,但是这个滑条实在太短而且头尾两个音会显得很怪)
  4. 00:32:714 (3) -
  5. 00:45:668 (2,6) - 太贴6出现的时候2已经消失半天了啊

Pata-Mon's Normal

  1. 00:59:305 (2) - 不要折返 00:59:816 - 这里放按的,滑条+圈或者滑条折返

Misure wrote:

[Pata-Mon's Insane]
  1. 00:17:714 (7) - flow向左倾斜一下?这种滑条哪有flow啊 怎么摆看着舒服就怎么摆吧
  2. 00:38:339 (4) - 这里突然切逆时针有点不舒服 ctrl+g? 我打着还好
  3. 01:09:702 (1) - 可以考虑换个方向形状什么的 和01:09:021 (3) - 对称总感觉这下重音没突出 还好吧对称好看 ds已经就是强调了,而且这里也没多重

[Pata-Mon's Normal]
  1. 开头这段我感觉按排列NC也不错 就是在00:03:566 - 00:04:930 - 之类的地方 新手可能感觉会比较舒服 强迫症
@虾抖 没事的这么慢不难读,真读错了那就+1pc

kunka wrote:

Pata-Mon's Insane

  1. 01:05:611 (1,2) - Would you change it by ctrl+g? You pick up good vocal follow by 01:04:248 (1) - and 01:04:930 (3) - . I think that a similar slider is good for 01:05:611 (1) - . 01:05:611 - is no vocal so why... I use this rhythm because 01:05:782 - there is a sound
Pata-Mon's Normal

  1. 00:24:702 (5) - I think that 1/2 reverse slider is better. I like 1/1
  2. 00:30:157 (3) - I felt a sense of incongruity in rhythm. It's because a vocal begins with 00:30:498 - . I move 00:30:157 (3) - to 00:30:498 - and recommend that I add a circle to 00:30:157 - ok
thx for mod

https://puu.sh/vOj2A/cee7469966.rar
Topic Starter
Garden

kunka wrote:

Hiii
General

  1. About the last spinner: Only normal diff terminates in the different time. Other diff is finished in 1/8( 01:29:390 - ), but think that I don't have any problem in 01:29:475 - of the normal diff. I think that I don't have any problem about changing all diff to the 01:29:475 - changed
Isolation

  1. 00:30:498 (1,2,3) - Would you carry out a blanket? It thinks me to be clean placement. placement here is not intended to be a blanket, 1 and 3 are linear with head and tail of 2https://puu.sh/vNCBS.jpg
  2. 00:45:668 (2) - I think that a sound of the 00:46:180 - is necessary. try this https://puu.sh/vNCOD.jpg ok
  3. 00:52:486 (6) - fm,,I didn't know what sound you picked up. I think enough just to change the 00:51:975 (5) - to the reverse. for 00:52:486 - sound, it's pretty minor but its sth to me
  4. 00:54:361 (3) - Would you switch to vocal follow? Because it becomes the vocal follow in conjunction with 00:52:998 (7) - , I recommend it. https://puu.sh/vND9T.jpg keep this one, I wanna emphasize the stronger piano and keep same pattern as 00:57:089 (3) -
  5. 01:10:384 (3) - Because this sound is really strong, You can still jump~ And I think that finish has a good sound. increased some
  6. 01:11:236 (2,2) - Finish is noisy tbh lol. I think that whistle is enough. i love the emphasis!!
  7. 01:21:293 (3) - I recommend that I pick up a piano sound. Would you switch to 1/4 slider*2? violin melody is covering piano so I chose the stronger one to me
  8. 01:25:952 (2) - Would you add a whistle to 01:25:952 - only? yes

Hard

  1. 00:20:611 (1) - I recommend that I pick up a piano sound by 1/2 reverse slider. changed
  2. 00:21:805 (3) - It's the same as the above. I change the 00:21:634 (2) - to the 1/4 slider and recommend that I change the 00:21:805 (3) - to the 1/2 slider. https://puu.sh/vNEvm.jpg same
  3. 00:51:805 (3) - fmm,,Is this necessary? I think that 00:51:123 - needs a circle. changed rhythm a bit

I think it to be the map set which is high in completeness overall. gl ;)
thanks!
Setz
good luck, i always wanted to map this song, but laziness.

Yuuki aoi is a goddess
Topic Starter
Garden
indeed
and thanks for star and support!
Lasse
metadata?

isolation
00:19:930 (3,4) - just felt so unnatural to play cause strongest sounds are on 00:19:930 (3,4) - 00:20:526 - think a rhythm likehttp://lasse.s-ul.eu/vQaSqdEU.jpg would be much more natural to play. 00:20:526 - could even be a 1/16 slider for the piano, but might be a a bit much in this part lol
00:28:623 (7) - is a bit better cause vocal on head, think adding whistle there too would make it work better?
00:32:714 (2) - similar to first point
00:52:486 (6,7) - seems weird to map them the same when they represent such different sounds, I think 7 could be two circles, or maybe just http://lasse.s-ul.eu/urr8vp43.jpg
01:25:384 (1,2) - spacing makes gap really hard to judge. something like http://lasse.s-ul.eu/gJjlfFu1.jpg could make it a bit more obvious and not force 100s from leaving slider to early cause it seems more like 1/8 or 1/4 gap

insane
00:20:441 (5) - similar issue as top diff for this and later ones
01:02:373 (3) - dont really get what you want to follow with this. could probably just leave empty to make vocal/melody stand out more
01:17:884 - kiai seems unfitting here lol, same for your normal

hard
00:21:634 (3) - could just be a circle for piano stuff I think
00:30:839 (4) - something like 00:36:293 (4,5) - seems more fitting rhythm wise

normal
00:21:634 (2) - see hard

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Lasse wrote:

metadata?

insane
00:20:441 (5) - similar issue as top diff for this and later ones I think the vocal at about 00:20:611 - is a bit unsnap, and the strongest piano sound is at 00:20:611 - , and 00:20:441 - 00:20:526 - are just Ornaments, so I want to keep this rhythm xD
01:02:373 (3) - dont really get what you want to follow with this. could probably just leave empty to make vocal/melody stand out more I can hear three bass sound at 01:02:373 (3,4,5) - clearly (the pitch of them are E, A, E), I follow them.
01:17:884 - kiai seems unfitting here lol, same for your normal Yes

normal
00:21:634 (2) - see hard [color=#FF0000]there's a vocal sound at 00:21:805 - so I use slider[/color
Thanks for your mod!

@花园 帮我改一下kiai吧,俩难度都改跟你一样
Topic Starter
Garden

Lasse wrote:

metadata?
http://rokka-anime.jp/product/ed03 artist
http://rokka-anime.jp/product/st01 title

isolation
00:19:930 (3,4) - just felt so unnatural to play cause strongest sounds are on 00:19:930 (3,4) - 00:20:526 - think a rhythm likehttp://lasse.s-ul.eu/vQaSqdEU.jpg would be much more natural to play. 00:20:526 - could even be a 1/16 slider for the piano, but might be a a bit much in this part lol both the strongest piano sound and intended vocal is at 00:20:611 - so I think emphasis is correct here
00:28:623 (7) - is a bit better cause vocal on head, think adding whistle there too would make it work better? vocal is intended to be at the white tick i suppose
00:32:714 (2) - similar to first point
00:52:486 (6,7) - seems weird to map them the same when they represent such different sounds, I think 7 could be two circles, or maybe just http://lasse.s-ul.eu/urr8vp43.jpg i agree
01:25:384 (1,2) - spacing makes gap really hard to judge. something like http://lasse.s-ul.eu/gJjlfFu1.jpg could make it a bit more obvious and not force 100s from leaving slider to early cause it seems more like 1/8 or 1/4 gap I decreased spacing
a bit without changing the flow, I believe slider leniency would help to avoid 100s


hard
00:21:634 (3) - could just be a circle for piano stuff I think trying to catch both the vocal and piano sound, its feels alright to me
00:30:839 (4) - something like 00:36:293 (4,5) - seems more fitting rhythm wise right
thanks!
Lasse
🅱️
Xinely
我可不可以摸
Topic Starter
Garden
当然可以 :)
Xinely
as someone's req :nozoheh:

General :
- 00:58:282 - for every diffs, you follow piano right? just a bit worry since i hear the vocal is 1/6 and piano is 1/4. just to make sure

Normal :
- as easiest diff u might want lower OD HP to 3,5
- 00:32:202 (2,5) - avoid the overlap?
- 00:41:577 - whistle for piano
- 00:29:134 - whistle for strong piano?
- 00:46:861 - ^
- 00:51:123 (2) - remove whistle? imo the vocal is weak so no need whistle
- 00:55:043 - whistle for strong piano and vocal
- 00:58:111 (3) - follow piano right? if yes i think no need to give repeat due i cant hear anything in redtick

Hard :
- 00:04:930 (2) - probably u want to keep use 1,6x for consistency
- 00:40:555 - skip this piano is weird for me because you map it in previous time like 00:37:827 - , i think you can tweak your rhythm with swap 00:40:384 (2,3) - (circle and then slider)
- 01:24:702 (4) - this jump is quite hard and different with your jumps in kiai time. can u nerf it a bit like 2,8x spacing or something?

Insane :
- probably cs 4,2 or 4,3? to make cs gap become more consistent
- also maybe AR 8 is enough. 8,2 feels a bit fast for me
- 00:08:339 (1) - i think the jump is unnecessary because it feels too far when the sound is turning become weak. try nerf it?
- 00:08:680 (2,3) - 00:10:043 (2,3) - too far. try make consistent with 00:07:486 (2,3) - since they are same
- 00:17:714 (7) - circle only maybe? there is nothing for 1/8 and kickslider in calm part is somehow unfit for me
- 00:28:623 (7) - 00:32:714 (3) - same
- 01:01:521 (1) - that 1/4 is overmap and the sv is so fast which makes 1/4 feels uncomfortable 01:01:861 - is only a vocal here which feel weird for a normal insane. i would say using 1/2 slider and 2 circles

Isolation :
- 00:32:714 (2) - same as insane

confirmed meta already right?
Setz

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