Icon For Hire - Make A Move (Speed Up Ver.) · forum

Mekki

Joined November 2014

Mekki 2016-03-06T00:53:44+00:00

Doormat wrote:
hi here's my three-week late mod k cool
this song reminds of me of that really difficult jump training map with the lewd background lol (probably because it is the same song)
[Mk's Easy]
00:28:633 (1) - no finish at the end of the spinner? added
00:35:383 (4) - just my personal opinion, but this note stands out just a little bit because it's not being led in by the previous slider. the curve of the previous slider (3) makes me think the next circle should be somewhere around x304, y136 since that's where the curve leads it to. so yeah maybe move it to x304, y136. alternatively you could alter the curve of the slider. not really a big deal, just something i think would help beginners more ok
00:36:583 (2) - ^same in order to maintain stack ok
00:38:983 (2) - same thing about the previous point about curve not really leading into this note. last one i'm going to point out to you because i'm pretty sure you can figure out these notes on your own, but notes like 00:41:383 (2) - or 00:42:583 (4) - are fine because the curve of the slider points them in the general direction of where these circles are, making them easier to anticipate. kk
01:12:883 (3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - nice copy paste at 02:03:283 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - lol. not really a big deal because i use copy/paste in my Easies as well, but i found it a little funny. still works so yeah no problems here *hides*
02:29:983 (1) - new combo here seems kind of unnecessary because it's not really emphasizing anything. it's still a part of the previous phrase of the last combo fixed

chocolate

osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 28483
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
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LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

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DistanceSpacing: 1.1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.2

[Metadata]
Title:Make A Move (Speed Up Ver.)
TitleUnicode:Make A Move (Speed Up Ver.)
Artist:Icon For Hire
ArtistUnicode:Icon For Hire
Creator:Nekomata
Version:Mk's Easy
Source:
Tags:scripted rock punk pop mkguh lasse marianna
BeatmapID:879573
BeatmapSetID:403525

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:2.5
OverallDifficulty:2
ApproachRate:3
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SliderTickRate:1

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Milan-

1,473 posts

Joined August 2011

Milan- 2016-03-08T19:12:14+00:00

hihi
easy
-00:58:483 (3) - sounds better like http://puu.sh/nzpqO/43ebbd1f8b.jpg both, vocals and instruments ends on the white tick ;; same foir 01:05:683 (3) -

normal
-01:40:483 (1) - if you start it earlier, from 01:40:333 - would fit everything much better
-02:10:483 (3,1,1) - kinda look bad, dont you think?xd moving 02:11:683 (1) - a bit up like 107/144 would look cooler
-it's fine, i didnt like much the stacking under slider tails cuz easies dont usually use stacks so adding variations of it on this level is kinda hard

hard
-00:59:683 - this section could be more focused to the drums tbh, meaning stuff like 01:00:883 (1) - should be 1/1 or 2 circles ignoring completely 01:01:183 - or 01:03:283 (1) - could be just a circle. right now the swtiching between vocals and drums constantly doesnt sound good
-the gap between normal and this diff is too large, in normal you use some 1/2 in few sections while the rest is just 1/1 and 2/1, but this diff uses 1/2 all the time including lots of singletapping which at >200bpm is hard lul. boost normal i'd say

insane
-01:00:733 (6,7,1) - would look cool if you custom stack, like http://puu.sh/nzqRZ/de7100c949.jpg for instance. plain stack is lame xd same for the rest yes
-01:08:533 (2,3,4,1) - i think i'd do stuff like http://puu.sh/nzqZ4/195d39a290.jpg or just stack 01:08:983 (3,4) - cuz these are part of the same instruments that 01:08:083 (1,2) - have but these use the usual distance. from 01:09:283 - start a new sound so it makes sense the pattern. (similar to 02:08:983 (3) - lul)
-01:50:083 - adding a circle here for the cymbal sounds better than leaving it empty ;;

other insane
-00:35:683 (1) - i was surprised that this wasnt extended like you did before since it's the same rhythm lul
-00:59:683 - this section would look cooler with lower sv tbh. right now you have these 1/1 sliders that look so 'rushed' for what the song offers ;;

exxtra
-00:18:283 (3,4) - a slider has 1 clickable object which means that the ending beat shouldn't be important or less strong than the head. but that doesnt happens here, you use a slider for a beat that is important on head and tail. reason why you should be using circles or http://puu.sh/nzrUd/2f999bce63.jpg in addition, removing the overmap 00:18:808 (5) - sounds better
-01:05:683 (1,2) - why are these so close? even the pattern before uses a more normal distance 01:03:283 (1,2) - lol
-the bad thing about this diff is that you use the same spacing for the whole map.. slow sections should use less spacing so faster sections(kiais) have different kind of emphasis by spacing. meaning stuff like 01:34:333 (4,1) - 01:36:733 (6,1) - is dumb. and similar with the intro, 00:10:783 (3,4,1) - big jumps when nothing is happing doesnt make sense ;( even if it's supposed to be hard, try to make it hard but at the same time try to see when a jump is fitting and when not

byebye

Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2016-03-08T19:27:22+00:00

1x sv works fine for that part imo, 1.6x base is already pretty low for my standards
also looks like shit with sth like 0.85x due to the stream overlapping the sliderend for a short moment and the current stream spacing fits too well to reduce
http://i.imgur.com/M8mPnoy.jpg

as for the 3/4: I only ever extend the first slider for those parts, I don't even know the reasoning I had anymore

but both work and it's consistent for when this part repeats later in the song, so..
most likely I wanted the first pattern to focus more on the vocals and the others more on the instruments

Mekki

1,793 posts

Joined November 2014

Mekki 2016-03-08T21:13:21+00:00

fixed

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: makeamove-nc.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 28483
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 9283,69283,71683,112483,117283,149983
DistanceSpacing: 1.1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.2

[Metadata]
Title:Make A Move (Speed Up Ver.)
TitleUnicode:Make A Move (Speed Up Ver.)
Artist:Icon For Hire
ArtistUnicode:Icon For Hire
Creator:Nekomata
Version:Mk's Easy
Source:
Tags:scripted rock punk pop mkguh lasse marianna
BeatmapID:879573
BeatmapSetID:403525

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:1.5
CircleSize:2.5
OverallDifficulty:2
ApproachRate:3
SliderMultiplier:0.8
SliderTickRate:1

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2,69483,70243
2,112683,115843
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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_Hou

391 posts

Joined November 2014

_Hou 2016-03-09T09:44:07+00:00

Hello,
From my queue
Blue is just an advice or whatever.
Pink is for thing I strongly recommend to pay attention at
Color to mention things i don't like but not sure if it's not okay

Marianna's Extra

00:25:933 (3,1,2,3) - not sure about 0.5 velocity, 0,75 might be fine.
00:36:808 (4) - I don't feel this one
01:16:483 (1) - Ctrl+G
01:35:683 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - strange break of common rhythm

Lasse's Insane

01:25:633 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Hard overlap
02:11:083 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - strange curve
02:16:033 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - same to first one

General

So clear map set, love it actually
That's all i could find,
Good luck ,
Shoot you a star!

Nekomata

807 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Nekomata 2016-03-20T00:11:54+00:00

finally

Doormat wrote:
[Normal]
00:42:883 (1,2) - super nitpicky, but the (1) could be a better blanket if you curved it a slight bit more ok
00:51:883 (4) - just my opinion, but the red offbeat before this (00:51:733) has a bigger emphasis than the white tick this note is on, so maybe you can move it 1/2 beat early and make it into a 3/2 slider instead? 1/2 seems a bit sudden here imo D:
SPOILER
01:26:083 (1,2) - more nitpicky blankets lmao. but yeah you might want to run through your Normal again and check for your blankets, because i've noticed that a lot of these blankets you have could be better i'm actually aware of these ones, and i actually intentionally make a weak blanket so that my flow plays out better
02:29:983 (1) - same thing about this new combo being not really that necessary removed
[Hard]
1.95 --> 3.53? that's a pretty crazy jump in difficulty don't you think? might try to make the Normal a bit harder to compensate, since 200 bpm 1/2s kinda pushed the difficulty up a lot
00:21:583 (2) - i get that you're following the previous combo pattern for this combo pattern here, but i don't think it works as effectively because you started following the vocals a while back. a 1/1 repeat slider works for the vocals at 00:20:383 (2) -, it doesn't work for the way the vocals are done here. maybe have a regular 1/1 slider at 00:21:883 and place a 1/2 slider at 00:21:583? i'll actually keep it simple here, i don't like mapping 1/2 for each syllable of a word :/
found it a little strange how 00:24:883 (1,2,3,4) - follows the instrumentals while the previous combo followed the vocals. not really a big deal, but if you want to make it consistent, just reverse the order of 00:25:333 (2,3) - so that the 1/1 slider is on the 00:25:333 and the circle is on 00:25:783 i actually did have it fully matching the vocals before, but it broke my clap consistency so i think i made a reasonable compromise
01:50:083 (1) - place a circle here and start the spinner like a 1/4 beat or 1/2 after it? missed opportunity to not have something clickable on that finish i think ok
i noticed that you started following the vocals starting at the second half of the last kiai, so i found it a little odd how 02:28:033 (4) - doesn't follow the vocals. 1/1 slider doesn't work best here i think; try using a 1/2 repeat slider i actually intended to follow the slower drum rhythm in the second half of the kiai which seemed to also follow the vocals. and that slider actually does follow vocals :p
02:29:983 (1) - not really necessary but ok. moving it to 02:29:683 (4) - makes more sense 'cause there's an emphasis on the last three notes that starts here not actually sure what you mean here but i don't see any problems in this area :p also removed nc
[Insane]
00:21:583 (2) - similar thing i mentioned in the Hard can apply here as well
00:24:883 (1,2,3,4) - again, similar to what i pointed out in the Hard can also be applied here. not a big deal though
00:30:283 (1) - i kind of didn't expect this to be stacked because of the triangular motion you created with the previous combos; not really a big deal, but having the stack does sort of kill the momentum in my opinion. maybe move it so it's closer to 00:29:833 (1) - having a constant momentum isn't my intended flow here (and it might make this part even harder than intended), but what i do is stop/slow movement and quickly recreate the momentum so it feels pretty satisfying to play
if you take the above suggestion, then as a follow up, i suggest moving the (2) as well. maybe make it something like this? you preserve the momentum/movement that you built up this way
SPOILER
no circle on 00:54:733? you're already following the vocals, so why not? antijump consistency :> also that vocal does not seem strong enough to warrant a circle
the guitar riff you mapped around the 01:08 mark starts at 01:08:683, so i found it odd that you skipped over the first note in this riff it sounds like it starts there, but it's not very distinct until the sliderend and circles, so i chose to follow the vocal here.
01:50:083 (1) - same thing i mentioned in Hard can apply here as well ok
02:28:033 (4) and 02:29:983 (1) - ^same

Milan- wrote:
normal
-01:40:483 (1) - if you start it earlier, from 01:40:333 - would fit everything much better ok
-02:10:483 (3,1,1) - kinda look bad, dont you think?xd moving 02:11:683 (1) - a bit up like 107/144 would look cooler adjusted
-it's fine, i didnt like much the stacking under slider tails cuz easies dont usually use stacks so adding variations of it on this level is kinda hard

hard
-00:59:683 - this section could be more focused to the drums tbh, meaning stuff like 01:00:883 (1) - should be 1/1 or 2 circles ignoring completely 01:01:183 - or 01:03:283 (1) - could be just a circle. right now the swtiching between vocals and drums constantly doesnt sound good ok
-the gap between normal and this diff is too large, in normal you use some 1/2 in few sections while the rest is just 1/1 and 2/1, but this diff uses 1/2 all the time including lots of singletapping which at >200bpm is hard lul. boost normal i'd say

insane
-01:00:733 (6,7,1) - would look cool if you custom stack, like http://puu.sh/nzqRZ/de7100c949.jpg for instance. plain stack is lame xd same for the rest yes i'll try it
-01:08:533 (2,3,4,1) - i think i'd do stuff like http://puu.sh/nzqZ4/195d39a290.jpg or just stack 01:08:983 (3,4) - cuz these are part of the same instruments that 01:08:083 (1,2) - have but these use the usual distance. from 01:09:283 - start a new sound so it makes sense the pattern. (similar to 02:08:983 (3) - lul)
-01:50:083 - adding a circle here for the cymbal sounds better than leaving it empty ;; added

mkguh's and lasse's updated

whenever bss wants to work

Warpyc

406 posts

Joined August 2013

Warpyc 2016-03-30T16:22:32+00:00

Insane

00:11:683 (1,2,3,4) - Pattern feels a bit boring, I'd recommend something like this http://puu.sh/nZwj6/0b7925b970.jpg (copy first slider rotate 120 degrees each slider) and then something nice like this http://puu.sh/nZwmf/8603b0b700.jpg
00:17:683 (1,4,1) - you've made the flow here quite weird imo, (4) should be turned upside down but then that ruins the flow for the next slider, tbh I'd suggest you try to redo this part a little bit to make it flow better
00:19:183 (2,2) - I know you arent really supposed to point out sliders shapes since its highly personal but I really dont like these big curve sliders they belong in gimmicky wub maps imo
00:23:983 (2,1) - copy (2) and then paste it at (1) so you have the same shapes as opposed to two different ones that look smiliar but arent the same
00:30:283 (1) - Overlap here feels a bit weird to play, if you have anything else you feel fits there I'd suggest to change it but otherwise its fine
00:34:483 (1) - I havent really said this yet but you have these sliders with really weird shapes, from my experience making straight sliders or slightly curved ones looks a ton better, this of course applies to most sliders that are mapped like this
00:38:083 (4,5) - looks a lot better if you copy 00:37:783 (3) - and paste it on top of the current repeat sliders like this http://puu.sh/nZx9i/512e7fd09a.jpg
00:52:483 (1,2,3) - Whenever I see three sliders in a row like this it just feels like a missed oppertunity to make an awesome pattern. Example: http://puu.sh/nZxhi/6d728820c5.jpg which would obviously make it necessary to move the notes before and after but that looks a lot better!
Same thing should be done here 00:51:283 (1,2,3) - but maybe not same pattern, also make the spacing smaller since there is no drums on that part!
01:08:533 (2) - Make this slider to circles since the guitar sounds would fit a lot better to map, pattern suggestion: http://puu.sh/nZxAm/0b33ab1b3f.jpg
02:29:233 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Increase spacing a bit this is pretty much the pinnacle of the song
Some thoughts in general about the diff is defenitely that it has quite poor flow and a lot of the slider patterns look very questionable, I didnt point out a lot in the second half but what I wrote about the first applies to the second one as well!

Good luck with diff

Some small stuff about some other diffs
Lasse

01:09:283 (1,2,3) - isnt this spacing a bit too low of the next section of jumps are a lot more spaced when its seemingly the same sound, imo they need to be spaced a bit more
01:12:733 (5,1) - Flow is a bit meh between these notes
Big fan of your diffs holy, nice work

Marianna
00:41:083 (3,4) - I would stay consistant here and copy (3) to (4) like this if it wasnt clear http://puu.sh/nZyV8/3a9a09377b.jpg
00:44:083 (1,2) - ^
00:48:883 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Rotate the stream and move it for better flow http://puu.sh/nZz2o/8429d5d08d.jpg
01:14:833 (4) - fix blanket
01:16:033 (3) - ^
02:05:383 (5) - ^
02:07:633 (3) - ^
02:08:083 (1) - ^
Sorry for so much nazi but map is really good just some minor stuff to fix!

sorry for any spelling errors, also if you have any questions feel free to ask! Good luck with the set it's looking really good

Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2016-03-30T18:08:11+00:00

yeah the slider didnt really catch the movement here very well, I rotated it
antijump pattern works well as a buildup imo, same was done for the same sounds at 00:28:483 (1) - and 01:59:683 - since this isn't the highest difficulty I need to hold back a bit on hard jump pattern and this works :v
thanks!

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Marianna

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Joined July 2015

Marianna 2016-04-10T19:16:43+00:00

Doormat wrote:
[Marianna's Extra]
00:23:083 (1) - not really that big a deal, but i feel like having this slider be 0.5x SV and then having the next slider be 1.0x SV creates a very drastic sudden build in momentum that would probably work better if the build up was less sudden, so maybe use a less crazy SV like 0.75? No
00:25:783 - no note here? makes sense to me, since you're switching from vocals to percussion
01:08:533 (2) - same thing i mentioned to Neko in his Insane; guitar riff starts at 01:08:683, but you left it out? Vocals :v
02:01:108 - potential note you can add here, or you could make 02:01:033 (1) - into a 1/4 kick slider if you want to preserve the triangular motion here No
02:29:983 (1) - new combo doesn't really make sense here because it's not really emphasizing anything; it'd make more sense at 02:29:683 (6) -
hope this helps!

Milan- wrote:
exxtra
-00:18:283 (3,4) - a slider has 1 clickable object which means that the ending beat shouldn't be important or less strong than the head. but that doesnt happens here, you use a slider for a beat that is important on head and tail. reason why you should be using circles or http://puu.sh/nzrUd/2f999bce63.jpg in addition, removing the overmap 00:18:808 (5) - sounds better
-01:05:683 (1,2) - why are these so close? even the pattern before uses a more normal distance 01:03:283 (1,2) - lol
-the bad thing about this diff is that you use the same spacing for the whole map.. slow sections should use less spacing so faster sections(kiais) have different kind of emphasis by spacing. meaning stuff like 01:34:333 (4,1) - 01:36:733 (6,1) - is dumb. and similar with the intro, 00:10:783 (3,4,1) - big jumps when nothing is happing doesnt make sense ;( even if it's supposed to be hard, try to make it hard but at the same time try to see when a jump is fitting and when not

I tried to fix what I understand

byebye

Hou Rearu wrote:
Marianna's Extra
00:25:933 (3,1,2,3) - not sure about 0.5 velocity, 0,75 might be fine. ~
00:36:808 (4) - I don't feel this one Removed
01:16:483 (1) - Ctrl+G Ok
01:35:683 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - strange break of common rhythm Vocal

@Warpyc No changes

O3O

NEKO ♥

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Warpyc

406 posts

Joined August 2013

Warpyc 2016-04-11T08:35:33+00:00

You dont even plan of fixing blankets?
I mean there's no reason not to? I just really dislike stuff like this, it's pretty obvious otherwise I wouldn't mind
for example 01:14:833 (4) - fix http://puu.sh/oe7BW/00df588db4.jpg so it outlines the approach circle better ( http://puu.sh/oe7TY/52ab8f114d.jpg )
and preferably the other blankets I pointed out (it's possible I even missed some), as mentioned its a bit nazi but It just makes the map look a lot more polished.

Nekomata

807 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Nekomata 2016-05-04T18:59:36+00:00

Added an Advanced diff to help with spread. will apply mods on my diffs soonTM.

Nekomata

807 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Nekomata 2016-06-23T19:33:34+00:00

Added meiikyuu's Insane, ~~will be remapping my own Insane at a level i'm more comfortable with mapping...~~ rip

Last edited by Nekomata 2016-07-11T00:56:44+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2016-06-23T19:49:49+00:00

I thought this was dead lo

XxSonOfAresxX

6 posts

Joined August 2015

XxSonOfAresxX 2016-07-04T05:44:59+00:00

I think it looks amazing, you should keep going on this, I also LOVE this song. Good luck getting ranked, and also, good job on all difficulties.

Arusamour

424 posts

Joined April 2014

Arusamour 2016-07-11T07:28:54+00:00

hpoly shiit meikuyu in this mapset OGOOOd stuff ��

Weber

1,254 posts

Joined May 2015

Weber 2016-07-19T03:28:05+00:00

mod

Meiikyuu's Insane:

00:20:533 (4) - Nothing playing here, other than the alarm(?)in the background
00:24:433 (4,5,6,7,1,2) - Personally I think this works better: http://puu.sh/q6wXa/64538f4dbe.jpg

Lasse's Extra:

No problems besides the intentional readability issues of hitcircles precisely over end of slider, gz

Marianne's Extra:

00:10:933 (4) - Looks a little awkward consider its closer to (1) than (2), move to x:288, y:116
00:45:133 (7,8,1) - Personally, I think having the notes go down from the top, and then back up with the slider looks a little more A E S T H E T I C, kind of like how you did here: 01:25:633 (4,5,6,7,8) -
01:59:683 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Personally I think the pattern here is a little dull for the final drop of the song and I have an alternative: 02:00:133 (1,3) - 02:01:033 (1,3) - Reverse Selection both of these to create a back and forth arcing pattern that I think fits better with the music than just rotating expanding triangles, as well as moving 02:01:483 (4) - to create a slanted diamond pattern with (1), (2) and (3) that leads well into 02:01:633 (1) -
02:07:633 (3) - x:336, y:136

[ D Myung ]

142 posts

Joined April 2014

[ D Myung ] 2016-07-19T23:34:47+00:00

Yohoo! o/ From my modding queue

-Mod-

Marianna's Extra

00:16:333 I suggest to add a new note here to complete the sound

meiikyuu's Insane

00:24:883 You could change this double slider to a simple and finish it here 00:25:183

Btw I'm sorry for this nooby mod, this map is awesome. I can't mod something so good like this

I understand that you ignore my mod, if not is useful
I will shoot a star when I have one

-Atri-

3,047 posts

Joined March 2013

-Atri- 2016-07-20T08:45:13+00:00

Soooo... It's the song from that jump training mapset, that's why i feel familiar with this song...

From my queue

[Lasse's Insane]

00:11:083 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe make this a back and fourth instead of stacking them, I have a feeling the flow is better if do so
00:18:283 (4) - NC for speed changes

[Marianna's Extra]

00:13:483 (1) - Are you sure it's not clap on the head? they have the same sound like 00:11:083 (1) -
00:23:083 (1) - The only slowed down slider in this part, i am not sure why but i feel it's easily break at there because play would get used to those fast sliders before that part
01:32:683 (2) - Ctrl+g and move to x:384 y:232 plays better imo, I feel the movements feel meh and it so cramped there
01:50:083 (1) - Can you make this slider faster a little bit or move closer for a shorter jump? Not all the people can read there's a slow slider after a large jump
02:20:683 (3) - Not necessary for a slow SV here, the music is still strong there, even you gonna keep it, at least NC this one to notice there's a speed change

First English song mod

GL~

Irreversible

osu! Alumni

4,315 posts

Joined December 2011

Irreversible 2016-07-21T00:45:07+00:00

Heyo, got asked for a small mod~

[Marianna]

00:10:483 (1,2,3,4) - This feels too spaced out considering that this is only the begin of the song - keep it a bit calmer and you will be able to structure your map way better. Same applies to all these parts.
00:11:683 (1,2,3) - It's cool that you tried to use different sliders, but I see no use for that. The song is pretty much the same as before so you might wanna stick to regular shapes.
00:14:683 (3,4) - This could need some more attention, because her voice gets more powerful here. 00:14:833 - Especially here - maybe you want to cover this with circles instead.
00:15:883 (1) - How about this rhythm, to suit the vocals and the slow down better? http://puu.sh/q8KWm/7d33731391.jpg
00:17:683 (1,2,3,4,5) - I don't know, that was really unreadable to me. 00:18:283 (3,4,5) - Especially those... I mean, the spacing really doesn't corresponded with the timeline.
00:23:083 (1,1) - This is a really weird antijump. Either you could stack it entirely or move it way further away, but right now it's something in the middle which doesn't really fit.
00:25:783 - I would not let this be unmapped. 00:25:933 (3) - Combine this and 00:25:783 - to a slider?
00:26:083 (1,2,3,4) - I don't know what you tried, the weird fusion of a bit background and a bit vocal is ending up with a really odd rhythm. Just try again and the outcome will most likely be way better.
00:30:283 (1,2) - Well to be honest I expected some jumpy circle patterns here, these sliders kill the build up a lot.
00:30:883 (1,2) - The same as the anti jump before, a stack would fit here, or more spacing, but this in between is just a weird stop of movement.
00:32:083 (1,2) - Doesn't corresponded with ^, so you might wanna go for consistency here.
00:34:483 (1,2) - This seems more suitable to me. http://puu.sh/q8L8C/d9e47d166a.jpg
00:35:683 (1,2) - Again, not very consistent
00:36:883 (1,2) - Same, this has not enough spacing or too much, depending on what you try
00:39:733 - Don't leave this beat out, it will also end up in a weird rhyhtm break. The spacing towards the next object is't very optimal as well..
00:42:283 (4,5,1,2,3) - The symmetry itself looks good but does not really fit to the song in my opinion; 00:42:283 (4,5) - This says somebody, 00:42:883 (1) - and this is a copy of 00:42:283 (4) - ; so I expected something similar here.... To be honest, the whole kiai is a bit random to me and doesn't show up very much consistency or any structure. You have symmetry, then you don't, please take a look at it and try to come up with a better concept so it fits the song as good as possible.
00:52:483 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - These vocals are almost too valuable to have them covered with such a "boring" pattern. Maybe try to spice it up with some 12 12 patterns, or more symmetry and circles in general?
00:59:983 (5,6) - 01:02:383 (5,6) - Why is the spacing between those different?
01:05:083 (6) - This creates a weird vibe because it ends on the strong tick.
01:11:683 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1) - This part is very well done, good job; take a look at this one to fix errors from above.

I expect that things like these happen over your whole map, so please check the rest of your map yourself with some stuff that I've pointed up above, if you like. tl;dr would pretty much be, that you should try to bring in a clearer concept and make fitting antijumps etc.

[Lasse's Insane]

00:59:683 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,1,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Cool idea... but completely unreadable from my point of view :/ You should try to keep your idea but uhh.. I'd de-stack some things for the sake of readability.

gl Nekomata~

Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2016-07-21T09:10:58+00:00

@Kurante:
nc is not needeed, it's perfectly readable anyways
prefer antijump for the other cause it's consistent with 00:10:483 (1,2,3,4) - in terms of only having jumps on vocals

@Irre:
yeah I curved the sliders a bit differently to show more off the sliderborders

thanks for the mods

lol this is so old and filled with things I hate doing now

osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:Make A Move (Speed Up Ver.)
Artist:Icon For Hire
ArtistUnicode:Icon For Hire
Creator:Nekomata
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Source:
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PhantomHunt3r

118 posts

Joined September 2015

PhantomHunt3r 2016-07-21T12:29:39+00:00

hello, this is a mod from my queue, i hope this helps <3

meiikyuu's Insane

00:17:083 (3,4,5) - sense there is no actuall change in rythem or tone for this section, i recomend equal spacing
00:22:783 (2,3,4) - try and move 3 so it flows better
00:39:133 (4,5,6) - try and move this into a triangle
00:49:183 (4,5,6,7,8) - straighten this stream out?
01:30:883 (1) - try and fit this into the star
01:39:883 (2,3,4,5) - try and move this whole thing up untill 2 is in blanketing range of the slider before it
01:50:158 (1) - this ends here 01:53:683
02:16:933 (2,3) - keep the distance but blanket 2 with the slider(3)

Lukeyfish

6 posts

Joined May 2016

Lukeyfish 2016-07-25T04:43:23+00:00

I'm not very good at knowing exactly what is wrong with a map but I do have to say that the HP:8 on Meiikyuu's Insane is well....insane. It makes playing the map somewhat annoying especially if you don't have the best accuracy.

1Computer

123 posts

Joined October 2014

1Computer 2016-07-27T22:10:51+00:00

From my queue~

SPOILER

meiikyuu's Insane

As Lukeyfish pointed out above, HP is too high. HP7 would be fine.
01:05:683 (5,6) - I suggest blanketing these two and Ctrl+G 01:06:433 (6).
01:29:383 (4,6) - You can stack these two.
01:35:683 (1,2) - Blanket.
02:06:433 (7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - What you could do here is have the entire stream and the slider blanket the 02:07:333 (2).
02:09:283 (1,2,3,4) - Blanket maybe?
02:16:933 (2,3) - Blanket, you will have to move some things around, but 02:16:933 (2,4) should be the center of this combo.
02:21:283 (1,2) - Blanket.

Lasse's Insane

01:29:683 (1,2) - Blanket is off.
02:02:083 (1) - I think you should just move this down to follow the stream.
02:08:083 (1,2) - Stack is off.
02:11:683 (1) - Same thing here, following the stream would play nicer.
02:19:783 (3,4) - Blanket here.

Marianna's Extra

00:09:883 (3,2) - Blanket.
00:13:483 (1) - I think you should rotate this by -60.
00:20:383 (2,3) - Blanket.
00:23:983 (2,3) - ^
00:30:883 (1,2) - ^
00:33:583 (2,3) - ^
00:37:783 (3,1) - ^
00:44:833 (4,5,6) - This looks weird. It should either point towards 00:45:133 (7) or just be a normal stack imo.
00:52:483 (1,2) - Blanket.
01:14:383 (3,4) - Blanket.
01:16:183 (4) - Move this down a bit so that it could be symmetrical with 01:16:033 (3).
01:15:583 (2,1) - Stack.
01:30:733 (6,2) - These should align and point the same direction.
01:35:683 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 1 and 2 should not have the same spacing as 3 and 4, same with 5 and 6.
01:42:583 (3,1) - Blanket.
01:47:533 (1,2) - ^
01:50:083 (1) - I like this! But the first white point should be moved upwards so the track is smoother at the loop.
02:04:783 (3,5) - Blanket.
02:07:183 (2,3) - Blanket, or at least move closer to the center.
02:08:083 (1,2) - ^
02:11:683 (1,2) - Blanket.
02:12:883 (1) - Red point should be at center, and blanket the nearby notes.
02:19:183 (2,1) - Stack.

Joey's Extra

00:09:583 (2,4) - Blanket.
00:30:283 (1,2) - Better blanket.
00:50:233 - You should put a note here.

Great maps!

R4UP1

44 posts

Joined May 2013

R4UP1 2016-07-30T22:48:58+00:00

Mod Type: NM

[*]Add the Tag "English" because of the language the singer use.

Joey's Extra

SPOILER

General:

1. Im just looking here for the major points i found after the first test and not on every detail.

2. You have some really nice blankets and Patterns in the map. I like them.

Timing Points:

00:11:383 (6,7,8) - here and 00:13:783 (6) - here is a clear difference, but the music is exactly the same.
00:15:733 (4) - this slider is a total slow down on a point where the map become more intense because of the singer ... i would delete the slider and make 2 circles which are also jumps.
00:20:683 (4) - sounds more like a long slider
00:30:283 (1,2) - the blanket isnt perfect here
00:24:583 (5,6) - that spontan slow down is confusing as fuck because it doesnt fit to the music
00:27:133 (1,2) - i was thinking really long for a good solution and the best i got by testing around was: Make 00:27:133 (1) - to a single circle, 00:27:283 - take a break here, 00:27:283 - make here a short slider (1/2) and then put a single circle 00:27:883 - here (or on the blue tick before ... im not really sure because the voice slows so wired down from her xD play a bit around you will hear if its correct i hope)
00:31:183 (2,2) - Same Rhythm but different long sliders ... thats not just here its always differnten threw nearly the whole song and thats a problem if you want to get this map ranked ... there is not a real system in youre map because it always changes .... pls fix it
00:40:483 (1) - should be long
00:44:083 (1) - ^
00:45:283 (1) - ^
00:50:233 - should be a note
00:30:883 (1) - here begins the kiai time until 00:39:883 (1) - here where is a super tiny break in the kiai and then it starts again at the point where you already have the kiai. Same counts for the second kiai part and the last kiai part at the end.
00:50:983 (4) - NO long slider
00:54:583 (3) - NO long slider
01:39:883 (3) - from here until 01:49:483 (2) - here im really confused what you want to place the note on .... it just sounds really random.

ok ... this should be enough to know what i mean but from now on i gave up ... you just change to often the system on which you place the notes ... i have sometimes no idea anymore if i should help you to map right on the voice or to map right on the music so i cant really help on some parts...
I would rework the whole map a bit. I know this sucks but you really should do anything to make a straight line with youre rhythm. Otherwise it will never be ranked.

Pattern/Blankets = Looks good most of the time. For more information look at timing points section.
~~Combo~~ = Not checked!
Hitsounds =
[*]Just took a little look at it and i saw that there is many stuff you have to work on ... in advance i want to say that im not an expert at hitsounding, but if you listen the song with 20% volume music and 80% volume effect sound, the rhythm of the hitsounds sounds very random and unrhytmic... i would ask someone else about it.

[*]In my opinion you overdo a bit with whistles...

Rhythm fits to the Song = You switch way to often between mapping the song and mapping the voice of the singer. This leads to a super Arhythmical system with random long or random short sliders. More information in the Timing Points section.

SUMMING UP: You gave much about optical look and i have to say you really did a pretty good job in it! The map looks nice, the patterns and blankets look beautiful and everything is connected and has a form.
[*]OPTICAL LOOK of the Map: 👍
[*]Timing is correct!

BUT The Hitsounds of the map sounds pretty random and overused, the combos should be controlled by another person again because i think they are often wrong placed and the rhythm system of the map is absolutly horrible and random picked.

Thats it!
You have enough to fix in this Difficulty.
Good luck and i hope i could help you a bit.

Warpyc

406 posts

Joined August 2013

Warpyc 2016-08-04T19:43:21+00:00

Ayy my mod from 4 months ago still has no kd

Nekomata

807 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Nekomata 2016-08-04T19:56:54+00:00

Warpyc wrote:
Ayy my mod from 4 months ago still has no kd

uhh
oops

It has been too long since this post was made.

Pachiru

osu! Alumni

2,957 posts

Joined June 2013

Pachiru 2016-08-05T00:03:08+00:00

god please changed that insane HP 8 drain on meiikyuu's Insane

put hp 6 instead

Nekomata

807 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Nekomata 2016-08-05T00:28:30+00:00

Spotty wrote:
god please changed that insane HP 8 drain on meiikyuu's Insane

put hp 6 instead

She's working on the mods, wait for her update :p

Pachiru

osu! Alumni

2,957 posts

Joined June 2013

Pachiru 2016-08-05T02:36:15+00:00

This diff is very great ! (I also only played this one, but still thank you Nekomata for doing this mapset ! <3)

low accuracy

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low accuracy 2016-08-06T12:52:01+00:00

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Cryptic

551 posts

Joined December 2013

Cryptic 2016-08-23T23:32:52+00:00

Here late at Joey's request to mod Joey's diff. I waited too long to get the 2kds damnit

Just a general note I noticed, meiikyuu's Insane needs to lower the HP,

[Joey's Joeydiff]

Don't feel pressured to accept everything.
00:09:283 (1,2,3,4) - This flow is a bit awkward, this can be solved by moving the 4 so that it's slider end stacks on 2's slider end. This'll require you to rework the next jump pattern slightly which is needed anyway.
00:10:483 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I'd recommend making the spacing between 1,2,3,4,5 more consistent as the vocals are basically all at the same pitch. If anything, 5 should be emphasized a bit more to better indicate the pitch shift in her voice. The gap you have at 00:11:233 - sounds really out of place due to the guitar in the background being louder than her voice, so I'd recommend making 5 a 1/2 or a 3/4 slider to help fill in the gap. This'll also make the 6 into the triplet play better as theres no sudden gap. (The triplet is fine with these changes, but having a triplet almost immediately after a pause like that is really hard to understand musically because its not significant enough to really support a triplet in it's current state.)
00:11:983 (2,3) - The distance between these is shorter than the other sliders in this section, giving it an odd forced flow that doesn't feel very clean.
00:12:583 (4) - Depending on how you change 00:12:283 (3) - I'd consider CTRL+Ging 4, just for better flow. Once again you'd have to rework the following jump pattern.
00:12:883 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Firstly, the spacing on these is much better, I'd buff the spacing between the 2 and 3 for consistency. The 5 here should probably be a 1/2 or 3/4 slider due to the singer's emphasis on the "ss" sound in the word ease that falls between the red and blue tick at the end.
00:14:083 (1,2,3,4) - These have a build intensity that you've only really represented with spacing. You definitely need some circles mixed in here to help emphasize the vocal syllables in the song.
00:15:283 (1,2,3,4,5) - This pattern doesn't really properly emphasize the vocals, which is what you're primarily mapping to. Firstly, 1>2 should be much larger while 2>3 should be smaller than 1>2. Finally, you have the beginning of the word better on the slider end of 4, which overall, while plays well (flow wise) feels kind of clunky (rhythm wise). I'd recommend reworking the general patterning in this combo to get a result that better represents what you're mapping to.
00:17:683 (1,2,3) - The song dies in intensity here, so the spacing between these definitely needs a major decrease.
00:18:883 (1,2) - If these are meant to be blanketing (1 blanketing the 2) fix it, otherwise carry on.
00:19:183 (2,3,4) - This is kind of weird since you have a lot of visual/distance spacing on 3 which is not really a strong beat, and you have a super strong beat on 2's slider end. Its also worth noting that the spacing here is larger than parts of this: 00:22:483 (1,2,3,4) - which is undeniably a more intense vocal section.
00:20:083 (1,2,3) - Spacing here falls under previous mentions, really really large for not a whole lot of intensity. Of course, you may be interpreting it differently and it plays fine, but I'd like to see more consistent spacing based on the intensity of the instrument you're mapping to (vocals?).
00:20:983 (5) - Based on the vocals here, you could do a small two note jump into the next slider which could be nice.
00:21:283 (1,2,3,4) - I dislike this pattern visually and rhythmically, you have two strong notes on both slider ends and it looks a lot uglier than most of your sliders thus far. Definitely figure out an alternative to this pattern (maybe one with more jumps and lower spacing for the same intensity).
00:22:483 (1,2,3,4,5) - Just give these a slight buff depending on how hard you nerf previous patterns. These need to be emphasized due to the vocal's harmony here and the emphasis on these words in particular.
00:27:133 (1,2) - Its kind of weird how you map this noise and ditch the vocals. I think it plays quite well though I don't think all BNs would be okay with it.
00:28:483 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - You're hurting me here mang. First of all, the pattern is every three notes, so: (Do do do, do do do, do do do, do do do). Second, the spacing you have at the moment is not properly representing the pitch in the background. Finally, you should be NCing every three notes here and removing those 1/2 sliders entirely. (To clarify, the spacing should be the first three patterns are constantly building up and then the 4th pattern is similar in spacing two 2, as the pitch of the guitar goes down after 3.)
00:30:883 (1) - Consider adding a kiai time at these parts, they're part of the chorus, or at least sound like it.
00:31:183 (2,3,4,5,6) - The flow here is a bit awkward due to the location of 3. I'd recommend moving the 3 down and to the left for better flow and 4 to the left and up to compensate.
00:32:683 (3) - Why a slider here? Is it because you you wanted 3/4th into 1/2? I think two circles is just as appropriate due to the intensity o the vocals but the pattern you have right now is just as good.
00:33:133 (1,2,3) - Move these downward, like to x431 y384 so that they flow better from the previous pattern and into your next. (I chose the location because it formed a line with the 4 and 2 of previous patterns).
00:33:883 (6,7,8) - This rhythmic pattern may be better switched. If you listen here, if you're still following to vocals, the 6 is covering two strong vocal beats whereas the 7,8 aren't.
00:35:383 (5) - You need to change the sliders location here. Its current positioning flows poorly and looks bad. Something like this is much better for visuals and flow.
00:35:983 (2,3) - These aren't quite parallel if they're meant to be.
00:37:483 (3,4,5,1) - Dude, this pattern is hella hard compared to most. I definitely think it needs huge spacing but pay attention to the large obtuse angel you've made with 4,5,1. I'd definitely come up with an alternative.
00:38:083 (1) - I'd probably put a circle on the slider end here, just because its technically where your jump pattern should start.
The actual kiai is really nice. The flow is a bit harsh but thats your style, but the key thing is is its nothing so harsh that it makes it uncomfortable for the player. Its quite fun.
00:50:233 - Why not a circle here? It fits with the vocals.
00:50:983 (4) - Stop putting strong beats on slider ends if you're seemingly following vocals, c'mon man. This triggers me on a spiritual level.
00:54:583 (3) - You're missing a strong beat inside of this and on the slider end.
00:56:683 (4,5,1,2) - This is such a weird pattern. I'm not really even sure how to fix it. The flow here is kind of abrupt (somewhat obtuse jump) and the rhythmic patterning is a bit weird (strong beat on slider end). I'm not even quite sure if it needs to be changed as it plays fine, but it seems like it could be better. Tinker with it and see if you have a better alternative, at least something that can get that sliderend off a strong beat?
01:09:283 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - I think you need to reference by explanation of the buildup pattern here from earlier in the mod, as this is wrong in it's current state. I'm not going to make any comments because I believe you should already know how to fix it.
01:14:233 (4,5) - Nerf this spacing a bit please, its way too high coming out of that triplet.
01:19:633 (4,5) - Buff the spacing here a bit while nerfing 01:19:333 (2,3,6) - a bit. This jump pattern plays clunky at the moment so try to get some more consistent DS to emphasize the consistency of the vocals.
01:22:483 (1) - This is visually terrifying. It also doesn't flow super well from 01:21:883 (3,4) - . I thin tinkering with the first part of the slider should give you a solution to these problems.
01:50:083 (1) - I'd move this to be a bit shorter, more inbetween 4,5 visually, like this.
01:57:283 (1,2,3) - 01:58:483 (1,2,3) - Holy spacing batman, consider how large this is compared to your kiai and pre-kiai sections. I'm not sure if this is justified in the map's current state.
02:00:883 (1,2) - Probably switch NC's here to better reflect musical patterning.
02:01:633 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - An acceleration stream here would be badass, but its just a cool suggestion.
02:29:383 (1,2) - Put less tilt on these, like rotate them or something to be closer to parallel with 02:29:083 (1,2) - for better flow overall.

Sorry for the wallmod. If you see something I mentioned in one part of the diff and not in another, see if it applies there as well. I kind of ran out of steam on this since I was having to help someone through a relationship issue while modding this, so feel free to ask me to check it after you applied the changes (you know where to find me).

Good luck with the set @Nekomata

Makeli

932 posts

Joined October 2013

Makeli 2016-08-24T19:45:03+00:00

hei!!!!!

i'm not late

joey

00:24:883 (1) - wouldn't it be better to emphasize this with spacing cause downbeat sound and vocal powerup thing
00:29:683 (1) - tbh always just nc'ing on the big white tick is not the best choice since now the most powerful sounds are those snares that are at 00:28:483 (1) - , 00:29:383 (6) - and 00:29:833 (2) - . Grouping them like this would be more logical imo
00:31:483 (3,4,5,6) - this type of "huge spacing everywhere" is kinda bad since it doesn't give much emphasis to certain sounds. Like these two snares at 00:31:483 (3,6) -
tbh your spacing seems bigger (or at least equal) in the verse than it's in the chorus/kiai/whatever
00:33:133 (1,2,3) - i don't really like how you nc'd this triple since the strong sound is on the white tick. I guess it's for cleaniness or smth
01:48:283 (4,5) - where did the nc's dissappear
01:58:933 (4) - i would nc here since you grouped those snares before and this feels like the song is bringing something new and nc worthy lol
02:03:283 (1) - mind removing this hitfinish? You didn't do it in the other parts so why here
02:24:433 (4) - almost there but not quite
hello natsu

sorry i'm not gonna mod meiikyuu's diff cause i don't think i can be objective with that diff.

advanced

00:12:283 (3,4) - you had a 1/2 repeat slider before at 00:09:883 (3) -
00:12:883 (1) - tbh i have no idea what rhythm your mapping with this 1/1 slider here. The song doesn't really offer anything for a 1/1 slider. Tbh just being consistent with rhythm would do the trick
00:35:683 (1,2) - idk if this is actually a valid problem but right now the stack is making the spacing kinda fucked. It's actually 1.30 right now when it should be 1.40. And the overlap it creates looks kinda ugly
00:38:083 (1) - wanna make the spinnerstart a circle so you can have something to click there?
00:49:183 (2,3,1) - stacking different rhythms is a bad idea tbh
sorry i'm still not too good with low sr diffs

ok cryptic

Cryptic

551 posts

Joined December 2013

Cryptic 2016-08-24T19:56:40+00:00

Maakkeli wrote:
ok cryptic

ok maakkeli

Kalibe

2,060 posts

Joined October 2013

Kalibe 2016-08-24T21:03:43+00:00

cryptic well played

[ Joey ]

390 posts

Joined May 2013

[ Joey ] 2016-08-26T17:23:03+00:00

R4UP1 wrote:
Joey's Extra
SPOILER
General:
1. Im just looking here for the major points i found after the first test and not on every detail.

2. You have some really nice blankets and Patterns in the map. I like them.
Timing Points:

00:11:383 (6,7,8) - here and 00:13:783 (6) - here is a clear difference, but the music is exactly the same. 00:13:783 (6) - There are 1/4 notes here. The music is not exactly the same
00:15:733 (4) - this slider is a total slow down on a point where the map become more intense because of the singer ... i would delete the slider and make 2 circles which are also jumps. The vocals don't get more intense there, they actually get less intense. The vocals build up intensity, and then the intensity drops there, which is represesnted in my pattern.
00:20:683 (4) - sounds more like a long slider It could technically be a long slider, but I'd rather it not
00:30:283 (1,2) - the blanket isnt perfect here Fixed the best I could
00:24:583 (5,6) - that spontan slow down is confusing as fuck because it doesnt fit to the music changed it
00:27:133 (1,2) - i was thinking really long for a good solution and the best i got by testing around was: Make 00:27:133 (1) - to a single circle, 00:27:283 - take a break here, 00:27:283 - make here a short slider (1/2) and then put a single circle 00:27:883 - here (or on the blue tick before ... im not really sure because the voice slows so wired down from her xD play a bit around you will hear if its correct i hope) I changed some placement because it looked weird, but I see no problem with the rhythm
00:31:183 (2,2) - Same Rhythm but different long sliders ... thats not just here its always differnten threw nearly the whole song and thats a problem if you want to get this map ranked ... there is not a real system in youre map because it always changes .... pls fix it Not really sure what you are talking about here
00:40:483 (1) - should be long Why?
00:44:083 (1) - ^ ^
00:45:283 (1) - ^ ^
00:50:233 - should be a note That note isn't too important
00:30:883 (1) - here begins the kiai time until 00:39:883 (1) - here where is a super tiny break in the kiai and then it starts again at the point where you already have the kiai. Same counts for the second kiai part and the last kiai part at the end. Are you asking me to add bursts of kiais in those areas? I'll do that
00:50:983 (4) - NO long slider I understand that you want me to hit all the vocals, but this is a slow part, which is why I use more 1/1 sliders here
00:54:583 (3) - NO long slider ^
01:39:883 (3) - from here until 01:49:483 (2) - here im really confused what you want to place the note on .... it just sounds really random. It's not random at all. I'm simply just going to the beat of the music

ok ... this should be enough to know what i mean but from now on i gave up ... you just change to often the system on which you place the notes ... i have sometimes no idea anymore if i should help you to map right on the voice or to map right on the music so i cant really help on some parts...
I would rework the whole map a bit. I know this sucks but you really should do anything to make a straight line with youre rhythm. Otherwise it will never be ranked. Thank you for your concerns, but you should either read the ranking criteria, or get some more modding experience before deeming something unrankable. Maps don't have to be strictly to vocals, or strictly to background beat. In my maps, I usually prioritize background beats, and then vocals, and then anything else.
Pattern/Blankets = Looks good most of the time. For more information look at timing points section.
~~Combo~~ = Not checked!
Hitsounds =
[*]Just took a little look at it and i saw that there is many stuff you have to work on ... in advance i want to say that im not an expert at hitsounding, but if you listen the song with 20% volume music and 80% volume effect sound, the rhythm of the hitsounds sounds very random and unrhytmic... i would ask someone else about it.

[*]In my opinion you overdo a bit with whistles...

Rhythm fits to the Song = You switch way to often between mapping the song and mapping the voice of the singer. This leads to a super Arhythmical system with random long or random short sliders. More information in the Timing Points section.

SUMMING UP: You gave much about optical look and i have to say you really did a pretty good job in it! The map looks nice, the patterns and blankets look beautiful and everything is connected and has a form.
[*]OPTICAL LOOK of the Map: 👍
[*]Timing is correct!

BUT The Hitsounds of the map sounds pretty random and overused, the combos should be controlled by another person again because i think they are often wrong placed and the rhythm system of the map is absolutly horrible and random picked.

Thats it!
You have enough to fix in this Difficulty.
Good luck and i hope i could help you a bit.

Cryptic wrote:
Here late at Joey's request to mod Joey's diff. I waited too long to get the 2kds damnit

Just a general note I noticed, meiikyuu's Insane needs to lower the HP,

[Joey's Joeydiff]
Don't feel pressured to accept everything. You're a BN, I have to accept everything
00:09:283 (1,2,3,4) - This flow is a bit awkward, this can be solved by moving the 4 so that it's slider end stacks on 2's slider end. This'll require you to rework the next jump pattern slightly which is needed anyway. Yeah, I like that
00:10:483 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I'd recommend making the spacing between 1,2,3,4,5 more consistent as the vocals are basically all at the same pitch. If anything, 5 should be emphasized a bit more to better indicate the pitch shift in her voice. The gap you have at 00:11:233 - sounds really out of place due to the guitar in the background being louder than her voice, so I'd recommend making 5 a 1/2 or a 3/4 slider to help fill in the gap. This'll also make the 6 into the triplet play better as theres no sudden gap. (The triplet is fine with these changes, but having a triplet almost immediately after a pause like that is really hard to understand musically because its not significant enough to really support a triplet in it's current state.) I adjusted the spacing, so that 5 is the most emphasized, and the others have lower spacing. But I didn't change 5 into a slider. That kind of eliminates that "feel" that I am going for in that section
00:11:983 (2,3) - The distance between these is shorter than the other sliders in this section, giving it an odd forced flow that doesn't feel very clean. You're right. I ctrl + g'd it
00:12:583 (4) - Depending on how you change 00:12:283 (3) - I'd consider CTRL+Ging 4, just for better flow. Once again you'd have to rework the following jump pattern. ctrl + G'd (3)
00:12:883 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Firstly, the spacing on these is much better, I'd buff the spacing between the 2 and 3 for consistency. The 5 here should probably be a 1/2 or 3/4 slider due to the singer's emphasis on the "ss" sound in the word ease that falls between the red and blue tick at the end. I changed this pattern around to match the spacing of the previous combo, with 5 having the most emphasis. And I think I want to keep (5) as a hitcircle, for the same reason as before. I know I'm skipping the vocal, but I don't find it that crucial to hit it
00:14:083 (1,2,3,4) - These have a build intensity that you've only really represented with spacing. You definitely need some circles mixed in here to help emphasize the vocal syllables in the song. I did more than just increase spacing. I chose to represent it with incrementing the SV, rather than using hitcircles.
00:15:283 (1,2,3,4,5) - This pattern doesn't really properly emphasize the vocals, which is what you're primarily mapping to. Firstly, 1>2 should be much larger while 2>3 should be smaller than 1>2. Finally, you have the beginning of the word better on the slider end of 4, which overall, while plays well (flow wise) feels kind of clunky (rhythm wise). I'd recommend reworking the general patterning in this combo to get a result that better represents what you're mapping to. Talked about this one with you irc. I see what you are saying, but I feel like it is more important to map the dropoff of the pitch at 4, so I think my combo will do
00:17:683 (1,2,3) - The song dies in intensity here, so the spacing between these definitely needs a major decrease. The vocals die, but the background beat that starts sounds really strong to me
00:18:883 (1,2) - If these are meant to be blanketing (1 blanketing the 2) fix it, otherwise carry on. Eh, I was going for that, but the accuracy of the blanket doesn't matter too much to me. It will kind of mess up the combo if I mess with it
00:19:183 (2,3,4) - This is kind of weird since you have a lot of visual/distance spacing on 3 which is not really a strong beat, and you have a super strong beat on 2's slider end. Its also worth noting that the spacing here is larger than parts of this: 00:22:483 (1,2,3,4) - which is undeniably a more intense vocal section. The reason for that is because a group of hitcircles is a lot harder to hit than sliders, so thats why I keep the spacing of the hitcircles down
00:20:083 (1,2,3) - Spacing here falls under previous mentions, really really large for not a whole lot of intensity. Of course, you may be interpreting it differently and it plays fine, but I'd like to see more consistent spacing based on the intensity of the instrument you're mapping to (vocals?). Ya youre right. I rearranged the pattern
00:20:983 (5) - Based on the vocals here, you could do a small two note jump into the next slider which could be nice. I like it
00:21:283 (1,2,3,4) - I dislike this pattern visually and rhythmically, you have two strong notes on both slider ends and it looks a lot uglier than most of your sliders thus far. Definitely figure out an alternative to this pattern (maybe one with more jumps and lower spacing for the same intensity). hmm, I hear the strong beats on the slider heads. And I like the slider shapes >.<
00:22:483 (1,2,3,4,5) - Just give these a slight buff depending on how hard you nerf previous patterns. These need to be emphasized due to the vocal's harmony here and the emphasis on these words in particular. I gave them a slight buff, but nothing crazy because like i was saying before, hit circles are harder to hit than sliders
00:27:133 (1,2) - Its kind of weird how you map this noise and ditch the vocals. I think it plays quite well though I don't think all BNs would be okay with it. I tried to make the slider anchors hit the vocals that I skip so hopefully BNs wont mind it too much
00:28:483 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - You're hurting me here mang. First of all, the pattern is every three notes, so: (Do do do, do do do, do do do, do do do). Second, the spacing you have at the moment is not properly representing the pitch in the background. Finally, you should be NCing every three notes here and removing those 1/2 sliders entirely. (To clarify, the spacing should be the first three patterns are constantly building up and then the 4th pattern is similar in spacing two 2, as the pitch of the guitar goes down after 3.) fixed
00:30:883 (1) - Consider adding a kiai time at these parts, they're part of the chorus, or at least sound like it. I already have a burst of kiai there
00:31:183 (2,3,4,5,6) - The flow here is a bit awkward due to the location of 3. I'd recommend moving the 3 down and to the left for better flow and 4 to the left and up to compensate.moved 3 down a little
00:32:683 (3) - Why a slider here? Is it because you you wanted 3/4th into 1/2? I think two circles is just as appropriate due to the intensity o the vocals but the pattern you have right now is just as good. I think the 3/4 slider fits fine
00:33:133 (1,2,3) - Move these downward, like to x431 y384 so that they flow better from the previous pattern and into your next. (I chose the location because it formed a line with the 4 and 2 of previous patterns). moved it a little
00:33:883 (6,7,8) - This rhythmic pattern may be better switched. If you listen here, if you're still following to vocals, the 6 is covering two strong vocal beats whereas the 7,8 aren't. I think either option would work. I'll keep mine though
00:35:383 (5) - You need to change the sliders location here. Its current positioning flows poorly and looks bad. Something like this is much better for visuals and flow. Yeah youre right. I used your pic as reference and made a new pattern
00:35:983 (2,3) - These aren't quite parallel if they're meant to be. fixed i think?
00:37:483 (3,4,5,1) - Dude, this pattern is hella hard compared to most. I definitely think it needs huge spacing but pay attention to the large obtuse angel you've made with 4,5,1. I'd definitely come up with an alternative. Hmm, I kind of agree with you here. It definitely is a large obtuse angle if you go by the slider head, but I'm counting on players to play slider(5) all the way though to give it a nice flow to (1). I'll think about this one.
00:38:083 (1) - I'd probably put a circle on the slider end here, just because its technically where your jump pattern should start.
The actual kiai is really nice. The flow is a bit harsh but thats your style, but the key thing is is its nothing so harsh that it makes it uncomfortable for the player. Its quite fun. I like putting the circle underneath the slider. Thanks for the recommendation
00:50:233 - Why not a circle here? It fits with the vocals. added
00:50:983 (4) - Stop putting strong beats on slider ends if you're seemingly following vocals, c'mon man. This triggers me on a spiritual level. I'm not seeing the strong beat on a slider end. Unless you're talking about the vocal...which in that case isn't a strong beat
00:54:583 (3) - You're missing a strong beat inside of this and on the slider end. Not strong enough for me to want to hit in this section. I increase the amount of 1/1 sliders in slow sections to decrease difficulty
00:56:683 (4,5,1,2) - This is such a weird pattern. I'm not really even sure how to fix it. The flow here is kind of abrupt (somewhat obtuse jump) and the rhythmic patterning is a bit weird (strong beat on slider end). I'm not even quite sure if it needs to be changed as it plays fine, but it seems like it could be better. Tinker with it and see if you have a better alternative, at least something that can get that sliderend off a strong beat? Turned the slider that was bothering you into a 3/4 so a slider end is no longer on that beat
01:09:283 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - I think you need to reference by explanation of the buildup pattern here from earlier in the mod, as this is wrong in it's current state. I'm not going to make any comments because I believe you should already know how to fix it. Made the distance go up as the intensity goes up
01:14:233 (4,5) - Nerf this spacing a bit please, its way too high coming out of that triplet. done
01:19:633 (4,5) - Buff the spacing here a bit while nerfing 01:19:333 (2,3,6) - a bit. This jump pattern plays clunky at the moment so try to get some more consistent DS to emphasize the consistency of the vocals. I changed the whole pattern around, but you probably won't be satisfied with the DS on my new pattern either lol
01:22:483 (1) - This is visually terrifying. It also doesn't flow super well from 01:21:883 (3,4) - . I thin tinkering with the first part of the slider should give you a solution to these problems. lol ok
01:50:083 (1) - I'd move this to be a bit shorter, more inbetween 4,5 visually, like this. Changed the pattern completely
01:57:283 (1,2,3) - 01:58:483 (1,2,3) - Holy spacing batman, consider how large this is compared to your kiai and pre-kiai sections. I'm not sure if this is justified in the map's current state. fixed
02:00:883 (1,2) - Probably switch NC's here to better reflect musical patterning. fixed NCs
02:01:633 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - An acceleration stream here would be badass, but its just a cool suggestion. 2 crazy 4 me xD
02:29:383 (1,2) - Put less tilt on these, like rotate them or something to be closer to parallel with 02:29:083 (1,2) - for better flow overall. ehh, i dont think there is a problem here
Sorry for the wallmod. If you see something I mentioned in one part of the diff and not in another, see if it applies there as well. I kind of ran out of steam on this since I was having to help someone through a relationship issue while modding this, so feel free to ask me to check it after you applied the changes (you know where to find me). Thank you so much for the mod Cryptic, and I'm terribly sorry that I got to it so much later. I don't have a good excuse other than I'm just lazy >.<

Good luck with the set @Nekomata

Maakkeli wrote:
hei!!!!!

i'm not late

joey
00:24:883 (1) - wouldn't it be better to emphasize this with spacing cause downbeat sound and vocal powerup thing You're right, ctrl+g'd
00:29:683 (1) - tbh always just nc'ing on the big white tick is not the best choice since now the most powerful sounds are those snares that are at 00:28:483 (1) - , 00:29:383 (6) - and 00:29:833 (2) - . Grouping them like this would be more logical imo Fixed
00:31:483 (3,4,5,6) - this type of "huge spacing everywhere" is kinda bad since it doesn't give much emphasis to certain sounds. Like these two snares at 00:31:483 (3,6) - That's true, but I feel like peoples ears listen to her strong vocals here more than the snares
tbh your spacing seems bigger (or at least equal) in the verse than it's in the chorus/kiai/whatever Yeah, this song is kind of weird imo, because even though it's the chorus, it feels like it has the same amount of intensity as other parts
00:33:133 (1,2,3) - i don't really like how you nc'd this triple since the strong sound is on the white tick. I guess it's for cleaniness or smth yup
01:48:283 (4,5) - where did the nc's dissappear lol thanks
01:58:933 (4) - i would nc here since you grouped those snares before and this feels like the song is bringing something new and nc worthy lol I agree
02:03:283 (1) - mind removing this hitfinish? You didn't do it in the other parts so why here removed
02:24:433 (4) - almost there but not quitefixed
hello natsu
Thank you!!

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Cryptic

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Cryptic 2016-09-13T20:58:08+00:00

One day Joey will find the motivation to finish replying to my nazi wallmod of anger for no apparent reason, I believe.

Lasse

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Lasse 2016-09-16T10:41:47+00:00

finally found time/motivation to make things nicer since lots of things changed since I mapped this half a year ago

=> https://0paste.com/9160.txt

sr is up a bit but spread is still fine
though this seems kinda dead lol

Nekomata

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Nekomata 2016-09-18T18:17:07+00:00

updated Lasse's Insane, and yeah i tend do my own updates when everything else is updated

unfortunately it seems Marianna's computer blew up (?)

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Mekki

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Mekki 2016-09-18T18:18:14+00:00

rank when

Nekomata

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Nekomata 2016-09-18T18:21:28+00:00

MkGuh wrote:
rank when

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