Reol - Yakusoku no Ao · forum

Chaoslitz

Elite Mapper / Elite Storyboarder

2,307 posts

Joined November 2013

Chaoslitz 2016-06-24T18:07:30+00:00

http://puu.sh/pEBuV/6f4d05ab95.rar

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MikasaSerket

520 posts

Joined December 2014

MikasaSerket 2016-06-28T23:35:49+00:00

My part is almost finished except for the end. Fully hitsounded (Except for the end owo) Just sending it what I have now.
Mika's Light Insane
I sent a zip with my part in it and the custom hitsounds I used. Just take those custom hitsounds and drag it in the maps folder.
~~I wasted 30 minutes putting bookmarks for fun LOL~~

Xinely

5,014 posts

Joined April 2012

Xinely 2016-07-05T15:27:21+00:00

finally, about hitsound, just copy from your diff to me thanks ~

SPOILER

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Reol.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 67688
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1.5
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2.1

[Metadata]
Title:Yakusoku no Ao
TitleUnicode:約束の蒼
Artist:Reol
ArtistUnicode:れをる
Creator:Fatfan Kolek
Version:Nely's Hard
Source:Gokusaishiki
Tags:gokusaishiki 極彩色 yairi utaite reol
BeatmapID:1007392
BeatmapSetID:403096

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:3.8
OverallDifficulty:6
ApproachRate:7.8
SliderMultiplier:1
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
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0,0,"reol bg.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
2,98888,105909
2,137013,139784
2,186888,187909
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Zyl

520 posts

Joined October 2013

Zyl 2016-09-11T21:00:04+00:00

why this... is an "Extra" it's over 6* try to put Extreme or anything cuz it's pretty weird that name on that star rating xDDD

- K e n -

421 posts

Joined February 2013

- K e n - 2016-09-17T22:47:20+00:00

nice map

hope it will get ranked some day

MikasaSerket

520 posts

Joined December 2014

MikasaSerket 2016-12-22T21:11:47+00:00

no promises but ITS BACK BOYS

allein

Beatmap Nominator

821 posts

Joined March 2015

allein 2016-12-23T19:36:03+00:00

oh wow

Wuab

467 posts

Joined January 2016

Wuab 2017-01-06T05:40:20+00:00

M4M

Mika's Insane

(off-topic whats with the bookmarks?)

(Very minor detail, not very important.)
00:03:938 (2) - make it the same shape as 1? They both map the same sound, altho 2 is quiet so its up to you
00:06:688 (1) - same thing^
00:04:688 (1,2) - those would need change following what i said above

01:21:188 (3,1,2) - More could be done here to blanket these note, like 3 and 1 or 2 and 3 can blanket well
01:50:688 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - you could make to shaping of these 1/1 sliders more consistant, right now each pair is a different combo, where as b4 it was curved then angled and during the more insense vocal it flipped, try somthing similar.
01:54:688 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - maybe map to the guitar, you don't seem to be mapping to the rhythm here, right now it fits but it could be better
02:01:688 (5) - make that a long slider, maybe with low sv, the sound heard hear is held
02:23:875 (4) - make into a circle on the white tick, you did this to put emphasis with click instead of a reverse right? just a circle feels pretty clean 2
02:32:563 (1,1) - add a circle o the blue tick for the drum
03:14:938 (2) - make this blanket 1 better
03:20:188 (4,1) - this overlap could be made into a much cleaner blanket if it was spaced without the overlap
03:54:438 (1) - the gap here b4 this feel pointless, i would map up to here 03:52:688 (1) - then stop if you want to keep the break. this is the only diff that does this, i would just fully map that

NiNo's Light Extra

00:24:688 (1) - blanket 9
02:06:438 (6,2) - move overlap
03:15:438 (5) - make this in line with 3 and 4
03:16:188 (3,1) - make this into a 1/3 reverse, i think passively mapping the vocal is better, thats the only 1/3 in the throws people off
03:24:313 (5,1) - you could make that overlap in a better way
03:26:063 (3,5,1) - make 1 line up with the rest
03:43:188 (3,3) - stack them?

Chaoz's Extra

Needs combo colours!
Needs kiai
Needs proper hit-sound volume

00:39:313 (6,2) - stack 6 on 2
00:47:063 (3,3) - you could make that overlap look better
01:12:313 (5,1) - make the overlap around the tail and not the body
02:28:938 (2,2,3,4) - i would make these the same imo both work but i prefer the circles
03:28:563 (1) - just remove the grey anchor, its barely noticeable
03:34:938 (2) - ^

Mostly aesthetic mod nice work!

Vespirit

350 posts

Joined December 2014

Vespirit 2017-01-06T07:24:44+00:00

hey, for the m4m

[

Yoge's Normal]

00:02:688 (1) - seeing as you follow the main melody here, should not this slider be 1/1? this happens pretty much everywhere in the map, so i wont list every single occurence, but you could just go through the map
01:12:563 (1,2) - 1/1 gap, but it still overlaps? spacing should be 1.3 like the rest
01:18:188 (5) - here you could probably make the tick where the reverse is clickable, because it is a very strong sound in the music
01:22:938 (1) - spinner could start at 01:22:813, provides cleaner transition into it imo
01:29:688 (2) - this slider goes over a pause in the music, and it feels pretty awkward, so you might be able to do something like below to emphasize the pause
01:36:688 (1) - prominent sound occurs on the end of this slider, which you might want to make clickable
01:41:938 - add a note here? because you are mapping the background thing and you did the same at 01:39:688 (2,3)
02:56:688 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - pretty long combo here, might want to split it up by ncing 02:58:688 (6)
03:16:188 (5) - same as before, a pause that you go over with a slider, which i think should be emphasized
03:45:688 (2) - fit this slider to the shape of the one under it for aesthetics? just a suggestion

[

Nely's Hard]

00:08:688 (1,2) - why is spacing so small compared to all of the other 1/2 circles? i cant find a reason
00:20:688 (1,2) - ^
01:09:688 (1,2) - they slightly touch, imo doesnt look very good...
01:58:188 (3) - its at the end of this reverse slider that the vocals begin again, so it should be clickable?
02:16:938 - put a circle or smth here, because its really awkward that you skipped over the last note which also happens to have a vocal on it
02:20:938 - should this have a circle? sounds the same as 02:22:563 (1,2) to me
02:36:563 (1) - spacing too high? i believe 3x is only used once, and so, no one would expect a jump like this
02:52:563 (1) - maybe you could extend this slider to 02:52:938 because thats where the held vocal note ends
03:29:438 (4) - increase spacing by at least a little bit so they dont touch
03:53:188 (2) - looks a lot like 1/2 due to such small spacing, maybe increase its spacing to a size where it cant be mistaken for 1/2 even though its 1/1

[

Mika's Insane]

02:22:938 - you skip over the strong sound that occurs here, i think it should be clickable
02:37:688 (1) - that held note actually starts at the red tick before this... so imo you could do something like below, where the 2 1/1 sliders are half a beat earlier than they were originally
03:11:563 - add circle? for very strong sound idk why you skipped
03:46:688 - uhh... can i ask why you break here? its the same as the section before, and as well that end slider is really weird by itself...

[

Chaoz's Extra]

00:35:063 (2) - pretty weird flow here... you might want to ctrl+g this slider or smth
01:37:688 (1) - this wasnt snapped to 1/3 like it should be
02:00:438 (6) - skips over a vocal on the red tick, imo that vocal sound is more important than the blue tick
03:16:646 (3) - says object's end is not snapped

[

Unchanging Promise]

01:05:438 (6) - this could be turned into a 1/1 so that you arent pausing on something that doesnt feel like it should be paused on
01:10:938 (2,3,4,1,2,3) - idk i find this a really weird flow change, i think it would play much better if the 2 triangles were moving in the same direction
02:52:688 (1,2) - i would imagine players having a hard time reading this, so maybe you could make it look more like a 1/4 by having (1) flow into 4 a little better like 02:54:688 (1,2)
03:01:938 (2,3) - ^
03:03:563 (3,1) - ^

didnt mod snownino's diff because it seemed fine to me

wow i really like this set... did a great job with this song, good luck!

Fatfan Kolek

589 posts

Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

Fatfan Kolek 2017-01-06T12:53:59+00:00

HydroCannon13 wrote:
hey, for the m4m

[ Unchanging Promise]
01:05:438 (6) - this could be turned into a 1/1 so that you arent pausing on something that doesnt feel like it should be paused on nice catch, made a repeatslider out of it
01:10:938 (2,3,4,1,2,3) - idk i find this a really weird flow change, i think it would play much better if the 2 triangles were moving in the same direction idk, from what i've seen this plays actually pretty good, i might consider it if i see someone having trouble playing it
02:52:688 (1,2) - i would imagine players having a hard time reading this, so maybe you could make it look more like a 1/4 by having (1) flow into 4 a little better like 02:54:688 (1,2) oh i see, decreased spacing on all of them
03:01:938 (2,3) - ^ ^
03:03:563 (3,1) - ^ ^

didnt mod snownino's diff because it seemed fine to me

wow i really like this set... did a great job with this song, good luck! thaaanks!!

Ongaku

607 posts

Joined January 2014

Ongaku 2017-01-08T03:08:45+00:00

weee gl with this~~

posting for kds

Akiyama Mizuki

2,710 posts

Joined March 2009

Akiyama Mizuki 2017-01-08T07:02:00+00:00

normal
00:49:938 (3,4) - slider to lower difficulty a bit?
01:01:688 (3,4,5,6) - 01:03:688 (3,4,5,6) - needs a bit of pattern filtering i think, let's say 00:59:688 (5,6,7,8) - is fine because of emphasizing the drums. but I don't think these two are very justifiable
01:17:188 (2,3) - I think this has to be a slider and 01:17:688 (4) - has to be circles to follow the song better
01:19:188 (6,7,8) - same as above
01:22:688 (1) - NC? In this NC clickable objects are on white tick, red tick, then again, then here are white tick and white tick. I think NC is some way to indicate the rhythm change
01:55:688 (3,4,5,6) - same as 01:01:688 (3,4,5,6) - and you filtered pattern well on 01:57:688 (3,4,5) - , where's consistency
02:11:188 (2,3,4) - same as 01:17:188 (2,3) -
02:13:188 (2,3,4) - same as above
03:06:688 (6) - same as 01:22:688 (1) -
aaaand i guess you know what i will poke at in the last kiai at this point i think
you used many 1/2 triplet on red ticks like 00:13:813 (3,4,5) - throughout the map which i find questionable, i wonder how many newbies will get them right at their first glance
near-6 AR for the lowest diff is just no-no, I suggest AR5.3~5.5

hard
01:03:938 - nothing here makes it feel a bit "weirdly empty", i hope you know what i mean
01:22:438 (4,5,6) - what, why, just place it normally, rather than make it look and play weird
02:01:688 - lmao the hitsound here
02:16:938 - weirdly empty here
02:52:688 - I'd rather put emphasis here than 02:52:563 (1) - , or both. there both are crashes
03:00:313 (3) - i guess you made it quadruplet because of the guitar but it really does throw people off, and i'm pretty sure it's supposed to be triplet
03:08:688 (1,2,3,4) - .....
A lot of weird spacings, you really could have done tons of polishing.
There are also many aesthetic choices that I really can't agree with, but 'muh aesthetics' is apparently a thing sooo idk

insane
I... I really can't mod this. it'd either be a wall of text or 'remap this' kinda thing

light extra
00:34:438 (5,6) - a bit more emphasis here maybe?
00:39:313 (4,1) - 100% misread material, fix this somehow
00:46:438 (3,1) - really weird sudden pause imo
00:48:438 (3,1) - ^
00:53:688 - literally nothing for a good 3/1 xDDdDDDdD
00:56:063 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - whoa chill, probably make the first quadruplet a slider and the rest quintuplet a stream? because of emphasis
01:01:313 (4,5,6,1) - very weird to read, what is this 'edgy' pattern all of a sudden. tilt the sliders i guess
01:02:188 (3,4,5) - I really can't agree with this weird spacing choice but at least it's tad more readable
02:12:563 (2) - unsnapped end + crash at the end really dilutes the emphasis
02:19:938 (5) - just make it a circle don't mute the sliderend to fit the guitars
~01:22:688 - looks and reads bad while the rest is okay

extra
00:59:688 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - lacking emphasis imo. i wish this pattern was more dynamic
01:07:063 (1) - NC here, 01:06:688 (1,2,3) - looks very misreadable
01:46:688 ~ 01:49:563 - This part is mapped like an Insane you're mapping 6*
01:50:688 ~ 01:53:688 - too
02:01:437 (7) - NC here, the stream might be misread as a 1/4 stream and it will throw people off
02:13:938 (2) - NC here, 02:13:688 (1,2) - looks misreadable
03:54:063 (5,6,7) - what's this spacing
no kiai times??

last diff
00:33:688 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - you really are losing emphasis on 00:34:438 (7,8,1) - but it's already spaced like this for reasons and i want to die

lol end me

Chaoslitz

Elite Mapper / Elite Storyboarder

2,307 posts

Joined November 2013

Chaoslitz 2017-01-08T15:33:35+00:00

Wuab wrote:
Chaoz's Extra

Needs combo colours! added
Needs kiai ok
Needs proper hit-sound volume done

00:39:313 (6,2) - stack 6 on 2 i actually stacked on 00:37:688 (1)
00:47:063 (3,3) - you could make that overlap look better ok
01:12:313 (5,1) - make the overlap around the tail and not the body the jump will be too large
02:28:938 (2,2,3,4) - i would make these the same imo both work but i prefer the circles i don't prefer circles
03:28:563 (1) - just remove the grey anchor, its barely noticeable it is noticeable
03:34:938 (2) - ^

HydroCannon13 wrote:
[ Chaoz's Extra]
00:35:063 (2) - pretty weird flow here... you might want to ctrl+g this slider or smth spacing is my highest priority here
01:37:688 (1) - this wasnt snapped to 1/3 like it should be I would say it is not 1/3
02:00:438 (6) - skips over a vocal on the red tick, imo that vocal sound is more important than the blue tick yup
03:16:646 (3) - says object's end is not snapped fixed

bbj0920 wrote:
extra
00:59:688 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - lacking emphasis imo. i wish this pattern was more dynamic i think it is fine
01:07:063 (1) - NC here, 01:06:688 (1,2,3) - looks very misreadable k
01:46:688 ~ 01:49:563 - This part is mapped like an Insane you're mapping 6* I don't think there is any problem
01:50:688 ~ 01:53:688 - too
02:01:437 (7) - NC here, the stream might be misread as a 1/4 stream and it will throw people off ok
02:13:938 (2) - NC here, 02:13:688 (1,2) - looks misreadable this should be fine
03:54:063 (5,6,7) - what's this spacing k
no kiai times?? added

Thanks

https://reol.s-ul.eu/l5ODApel

Fatfan Kolek

589 posts

Joined January 2013

Topic Starter

Fatfan Kolek 2017-01-08T15:38:24+00:00

updated~

SnowNiNo_

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

2,106 posts

Joined April 2013

SnowNiNo_ 2017-01-08T17:00:10+00:00

bbj0920 wrote:
light extra
00:34:438 (5,6) - a bit more emphasis here maybe? i prefer stay consist spacing here
00:39:313 (4,1) - 100% misread material, fix this somehow
00:46:438 (3,1) - really weird sudden pause imo is pretty fine in game play, and it follow well to the vocal
00:48:438 (3,1) - ^ same
00:53:688 - literally nothing for a good 3/1 xDDdDDDdD
00:56:063 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - whoa chill, probably make the first quadruplet a slider and the rest quintuplet a stream? because of emphasis
01:01:313 (4,5,6,1) - very weird to read, what is this 'edgy' pattern all of a sudden. tilt the sliders i guess
01:02:188 (3,4,5) - I really can't agree with this weird spacing choice but at least it's tad more readable
02:12:563 (2) - unsnapped end + crash at the end really dilutes the emphasis nah slider here just fit better to the vocal
02:19:938 (5) - just make it a circle don't mute the sliderend to fit the guitars
~01:22:688 - looks and reads bad while the rest is okay

thx

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Little

2,509 posts

Joined November 2012

Little 2017-01-08T20:57:48+00:00

[Yoge's Normal]

00:32:688 (5) - There should probably be a new combo here to match 00:40:688 (1)
00:36:688 (5,6,1) - These should be grouped as a combo.
I recommend keeping combos consistent by add new combo at 00:50:688 and 00:58:688 and 01:06:688 and 01:14:563 There are later parts where this applies, but you should find those for yourself (keep combos consistently 8 beats unless there is a reason not to).
01:45:688 (1) - The new combo is not really necessary here since it's part of the same musical phrase as the previous slider.
01:17:438 (3,7) - Having straight 1/1 circles is bland, and doesn't show the interesting rhythm of the song. I think the rhythm would be more interesting and fit the feeling of the song better if you removed these circles. Same suggestion for other similar parts.
01:41:938 - Feels weird to miss the drum beat here. I think you should add a circle.

[Nely's Hard]

00:17:563 (3,1) - Might read nicer if you swap the combo. And at 03:53:563 (3,1)
00:24:063 (2) - I think it would feel better to play as 2 circles because it would give stronger impact at 00:24:188 Same suggestion for 01:32:063 (2)
00:26:188 (3) - Players will tend to click this one early because of loud guitar note at 00:26:063 so I recommend changing the rhythm to have circle on that beat instead. http://puu.sh/tfvlI/f7716a90c8.jpg
00:30:688 - The hitsounds in this part are noisy, and provide confusing feedback for the player. I recommend removing some of the hitsounds to make it simpler and less noisy. Well, I'm not sure what your rhythm is following anyway, but if you keep this rhythm, I think it would be easier to play if you removed the hitsounds from these beats: http://puu.sh/tfvIe/5ebff76353.jpg This way, the player will actually get useful feedback from the hitsounds.
00:45:938 (2,3) - Might fit the song better if you swap the rhythm here.
01:20:188 (2) - 2 circles for more punch? Same suggestion for 03:04:188 (3)
02:20:938 (2) - Circle here would make the rhythm more intuitive, and match with 02:22:938 (2)
02:47:938 (2,3) - Maybe swap the rhythm to put clicks on stronger beats.

Fun map

[Mika's Insane]

00:02:688 (1,2) - How about changing rhythm here like this? http://puu.sh/tfEPB/55d4e2d91c.jpg It will put emphasis on 00:03:188 which is a stronger note in the song.
00:07:438 (3,1) - Consider putting more distance between these objects. Players may tend to click (1) early because they hear the electric guitar sound at 00:07:563 where you didn't place any hitobject. Otherwise, you could also change the rhythm to follow the electric guitar instead of just drums to make it more intuitive.
00:07:938 (2,3) - I think it would look nicer if you avoid overlapping these.
00:08:688 (1,2) - Noticeable imperfection in the stack here. Minor, but would be nice to fix.
00:10:063 (2,1) - Try to avoid overlapping like this in general. It looks messy. I recommend either completely avoiding the overlap, or making a larger overlap (eg. http://puu.sh/tfFwU/aa1280a758.jpg or http://puu.sh/tfFy6/581db632a2.jpg) This also applies to any other parts of the map where you may have slight overlaps.
00:16:438 (2,3) - Would be better to increase distance here in my opinion. Put more emphasis on the strong note at (3).
00:20:188 (6,7) - Flow drops off here, and doesn't feel great to play. Reversing (7) would flow smoother: http://puu.sh/tfFFQ/67f34e75a1.jpg
00:21:938 (3,4) - No real need for manual stack here.
00:23:938 (5,6,7) - Rhythm doesn't really fit the song here. Maybe change it like this: http://puu.sh/tfFS3/728d23779e.jpg
00:34:313 (3) - I think this would be better as two circles. Maybe a jump like this: http://puu.sh/tfFXe/e9ba9170a9.jpg
00:42:063 (5,6,7) - Rhythm suggestion: http://puu.sh/tfG0M/e44d49e798.jpg
00:58:688 (1,2,3,4) - Might be cool if you gradually increase the slider velocity multiplier over this part.
01:00:688 (1,2) - Distance spacing here is confusing. Consider increasing the distance or adding a circle between. Same with all repetitions of the rhythm in this part.
01:38:063 - Not sure why you pulled the start of the break back here. Is there a reason?
01:41:438 (3,4) - Overlapped blanket like this is kind of unpleasant to look at. I think you should just decrease the arc of (4) so it can blanket (3) properly without overlap. This occurs in other parts of the map too.
01:44:063 - Maybe add a circle for the drum?
01:45:438 (3) - Plays better as two circles in my opinion. It would allow you to jump and place more emphasis on the downbeat.
01:54:688 (1,2) - Same thing as 01:00:688 (1,2)
01:59:813 (1,2,3,4) - Your rhythm here feels completely reversed from what is in the song, and it feels awkward because you have slider ends at all the strong notes. I recommend a rhythm like this: http://puu.sh/tfGqA/115b5272d3.jpg
02:06:438 (5,1) - For strong notes like this, especially the syncopated starts of phrases, I think it's more appropriate to jump than to stack.
02:29:688 (1,2) - Consider increase distance for rhythm readability.
02:36:563 - The whole bridge section has rhythms that don't match well with the song. I Strongly recommend following the electric guitar in this section because it is a guitar solo, and the focus of the whole section is on the guitar. I think rhythm like this is better: http://puu.sh/tfHkn/c0a1882e82.jpg
03:18:438 (5,1) - Don't need manual stack.
03:46:688 - Map this section?

Some cool ideas here, but needs work on rhythm and aesthetics.

[NiNo's Light Extra]

00:33:688 (1,2) - Would really be more fitting if you swapped the rhythm around here. Like this: http://puu.sh/tfHEV/c8f96be585.jpg This provides emphasis on the downbeat with vocal and guitar note, and also puts circle on 00:34:063 to complete the guitar note run with the other circles after.
00:59:438 (1,1) - Consider putting a jump between these two sliders. It would help to show the change in intensity. Maybe something like this: http://puu.sh/tfHVF/76c9ac213f.jpg

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That's all. Chaoslitz's diff is very cool.

Xinely

5,014 posts

Joined April 2012

Xinely 2017-01-11T05:42:00+00:00

HydroCannon13 wrote:
hey, for the m4m

[ Nely's Hard]
00:08:688 (1,2) - why is spacing so small compared to all of the other 1/2 circles? i cant find a reason
00:20:688 (1,2) - ^
01:09:688 (1,2) - they slightly touch, imo doesnt look very good...
01:58:188 (3) - its at the end of this reverse slider that the vocals begin again, so it should be clickable?
02:16:938 - put a circle or smth here, because its really awkward that you skipped over the last note which also happens to have a vocal on it
02:20:938 - should this have a circle? sounds the same as 02:22:563 (1,2) to me
02:36:563 (1) - spacing too high? i believe 3x is only used once, and so, no one would expect a jump like this yep this one is intentional for jump part with blanket style. i think its still not that far for a hard diff so i would keep this
02:52:563 (1) - maybe you could extend this slider to 02:52:938 because thats where the held vocal note ends
03:29:438 (4) - increase spacing by at least a little bit so they dont touch
03:53:188 (2) - looks a lot like 1/2 due to such small spacing, maybe increase its spacing to a size where it cant be mistaken for 1/2 even though its 1/1 missplace the rhythm i dont even know why it happens lol

nice mod btw

bbj0920 wrote:
hard
01:03:938 - nothing here makes it feel a bit "weirdly empty", i hope you know what i mean
01:22:438 (4,5,6) - what, why, just place it normally, rather than make it look and play weird i dont understand what you mean / suggestion here
02:01:688 - lmao the hitsound here holy fuck its cool
02:16:938 - weirdly empty here
02:52:688 - I'd rather put emphasis here than 02:52:563 (1) - , or both. there both are crashes
03:00:313 (3) - i guess you made it quadruplet because of the guitar but it really does throw people off, and i'm pretty sure it's supposed to be triplet
03:08:688 (1,2,3,4) - ..... nani?
A lot of weird spacings, you really could have done tons of polishing. 1,3x for kiai time and 1,5x for non kiai time ye
There are also many aesthetic choices that I really can't agree with, but 'muh aesthetics' is apparently a thing sooo idk

Little wrote:
[Nely's Hard]
00:17:563 (3,1) - Might read nicer if you swap the combo. And at 03:53:563 (3,1)
00:24:063 (2) - I think it would feel better to play as 2 circles because it would give stronger impact at 00:24:188 Same suggestion for 01:32:063 (2)
00:26:188 (3) - Players will tend to click this one early because of loud guitar note at 00:26:063 so I recommend changing the rhythm to have circle on that beat instead. http://puu.sh/tfvlI/f7716a90c8.jpg
00:30:688 - The hitsounds in this part are noisy, and provide confusing feedback for the player. I recommend removing some of the hitsounds to make it simpler and less noisy. Well, I'm not sure what your rhythm is following anyway, but if you keep this rhythm, I think it would be easier to play if you removed the hitsounds from these beats: http://puu.sh/tfvIe/5ebff76353.jpg This way, the player will actually get useful feedback from the hitsounds. ~~this diff taken the hitsound from fatfan (i dont even know if my diff is hitsounded already lol), so i will ask him first before do a move~~ yep removed them since we both agree they sound better in your way
00:45:938 (2,3) - Might fit the song better if you swap the rhythm here.
01:20:188 (2) - 2 circles for more punch? Same suggestion for 03:04:188 (3)
02:20:938 (2) - Circle here would make the rhythm more intuitive, and match with 02:22:938 (2)
02:47:938 (2,3) - Maybe swap the rhythm to put clicks on stronger beats.changed in other way for follow drum more

Fun map

no reply means fixed ><
thanks moelittle ><

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Fatfan Kolek

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Fatfan Kolek 2017-01-11T06:22:05+00:00

aaaand updated :3

Yoges

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Yoges 2017-01-12T13:06:05+00:00

https://puu.sh/tjJYN/41992da640.osu New diff. Sorry to anybody that modded my old one I decided to remap it as it was almost a year old =3=

Kin

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Kin 2017-01-15T15:19:31+00:00

Sorry, I'm later than expected!
nice windows XP sound.

[Unchanging Promise]

00:26:313 (2) - isn't it better as whistle instead of triplet clap ? since it's a kick and not a snare
00:30:688 - 00:34:688 - For this part, I think it'd be better to use circle instead of slider on the 1st part, and then slider instead of circle. The reason is, according to the song, this part 00:30:688 - 00:33:688 - is more intense than this one 00:33:688 - 00:34:688 - . But with the current pattern, even with the jump on the slider part, the 2nd part full circle is harder than the 1st one.
how about decreasing the SV a lil bit to make those slider 00:57:688 (1,3) - feel the downbeat ? If you change it, don't forget to also re use 0.85 here 00:58:688 - . btw, it'll also add a better feeling with the next pattern which increase the intensity of the song.
03:31:188 (1,2) - I'd unstack those 2 to mark difference with those one 03:31:438 (3,4) - .

[Chaoz's Extra]

00:26:313 (6,7,8) - isn't it better as whistle instead of triplet clap ? since it's a kick and not a snare
01:04:438 (6) - touching bar life.
03:54:438 (7) - according to the guitare, it'd be better to extend the slider here : 03:54:688 -

[NiNo's Light Extra]

01:04:188 (3,4,5) - might be a lil confusing, almost thought it was a 1/3
03:16:521 (1) - How about changing this circle into a slider like this ? http://puu.sh/tnaDZ/b2acae72a6.jpg
03:52:688 (1,2,3) - isn't it better to be consistent and use jump or normal spacing for the 3 sliders ? the music is simular for the 3 sliders but have a different spacing.

[Mika's Insane]
kolek told me you're gonna remap it, so I stopped my mod at the middle of the song. But I'm still gonna post what I writted. Might be useful.

00:15:563 (4) - I can't see any particular reason to use anti jump on this one (tho it's the only one on this part)
00:30:000 (5) - it feel too wrong for me to press this blue tick, and feel really wrong to hear this whistle here 00:30:063 - when the strongest kick is here 00:30:188 - . How about just moving this slider 00:30:000 (5) - on the red tick and add a reverse ?
00:33:188 (3,4) - is it an intentionnal change of spacing ? If so, feel really weird to me. Better use the same spacing as the other slider from the same pattern.
01:40:688 (1,2,3,4) - about this pattern, I think it's better to use a higher spacing between those 2 note 01:41:438 (3,4) - instead of those 01:40:688 (1,2,3) - . I feel like 4 must be more emphasized, the "anti jump" may do so, but not in the best way. So I'd rather decrease spacing on 01:40:688 (1,2,3) - to increase this one 01:41:438 (3,4) - .

[Xinely's Hard]

00:38:438 (3,4,1,2) - Maybe changing the timeline to this will make it easier to play ? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7066093
03:40:063 (2,3) - I'm not quite sure about this sudden jump for an Hard diff.
03:54:438 (4) - according to the guitare, it'd be better to extend the slider here : 03:54:688 -

[Yoges' Normal]
don't forget to use a hitsound copier
cool normal!

00:16:688 (1) - 00:25:688 (2) - 03:25:438 (3,4) - touching barlife.

not much to say about this mapset~
good luck!

Yoges

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Yoges 2017-01-15T15:38:42+00:00

Kin wrote:
[Yoges' Normal]
don't forget to use a hitsound copier I thought Fatfan was going to deal with that -3-
cool normal!

00:16:688 (1) - 00:25:688 (2) - 03:25:438 (3,4) - touching barlife. I'll be honest it really doesn't matter. Correct me if I'm wrong but that's not an unrankable issue and depending on your skin it may or may not be touching the lifebar (in my skin it doesn't).

Kin

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Kin 2017-01-15T16:41:47+00:00

Yoges wrote:
Kin wrote:
[Yoges' Normal]
don't forget to use a hitsound copier I thought Fatfan was going to deal with that -3-
cool normal!

00:16:688 (1) - 00:25:688 (2) - 03:25:438 (3,4) - touching barlife. I'll be honest it really doesn't matter. Correct me if I'm wrong but that's not an unrankable issue and depending on your skin it may or may not be touching the lifebar (in my skin it doesn't).

Gameplay elements must be visible. You cannot make any element that will impair the playability of the map invisible as it will make the map unintuitive or even impossible to play.

it's not unrankable but pretty sure it was a guideline years ago, still there's this ^. And btw, you should map/mod with default skin.

Yoges

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Yoges 2017-01-15T16:57:52+00:00

Kin wrote:
Gameplay elements must be visible. You cannot make any element that will impair the playability of the map invisible as it will make the map unintuitive or even impossible to play.
it's not unrankable but pretty sure it was a guideline years ago, still there's this ^. And btw, you should map/mod with default skin.

Yeah I'm just going to completely disregard that. Like it's a guideline so it's already in a bit of a grey area. And I'm very sure that's referring to say stuff like slider bodies completely hiding notes/other sliders (there's plenty of that in ranked maps today) or stuff going off screen. I don't think it's referring to skin/UI elements that may or may not ever so slightly make brief contact with game play elements.

-sandAI

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-sandAI 2017-08-14T00:13:41+00:00

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