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neonat
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2017-12-18 01:40 neonat: like uh
2017-12-18 01:41 neonat: 01:42:877 (6,8) - there is no music here
2017-12-18 01:43 neonat: 02:06:012 (4,5) - kinda underwhelming spacing when 02:06:127 (5) - is so strong
2017-12-18 01:44 neonat: it's weird to start the sliders on the red line 02:15:474 (4) - 02:15:474 (4) - 02:16:397 (4) - etc
2017-12-18 01:44 neonat: their strong part is the white line
2017-12-18 01:45 Enon: humm
2017-12-18 01:45 Enon: about the part
2017-12-18 01:45 Enon: lasse suggested me the rhythms
2017-12-18 01:46 Enon: like "why ignore the guitar switching to red ticks for such a bland rhythm? something like https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/gTwiGIL.jpg would make for a much more engaging rhythm "
2017-12-18 01:46 neonat: because the guitars hold at 02:15:358 (3) - then 02:16:281 (3,4) - is a double guitar sound
2017-12-18 01:46 neonat: while 02:16:512 - guitar starts here too
2017-12-18 01:47 Enon: https://puu.sh/yIqOJ/77a58db679.png
2017-12-18 01:47 Enon: how about these rhythms?
2017-12-18 01:47 neonat: the violin at 03:23:666 - is strong enough to not be slider end
2017-12-18 01:48 neonat: I think for 02:15:358 (3,4) - you can merge them all together into a slider
2017-12-18 01:48 neonat: 02:16:281 (3,4,5) - can be like those sliders you ss-ed
2017-12-18 01:49 Enon: that mean 02:15:358 (3,4) - for this is
2017-12-18 01:49 Enon: make 02:15:358 (3,4) - it to 1/1?
2017-12-18 01:49 neonat: yeh
2017-12-18 01:50 neonat: 03:13:512 - 03:13:627 - 03:13:743 - 03:13:858 - you just left this blank
2017-12-18 01:50 neonat: or at least dailycare did
2017-12-18 01:50 Enon: i did it as well
2017-12-18 01:50 neonat: that violin part also daily's part
2017-12-18 01:50 Enon: 01:55:743 -
2017-12-18 01:50 neonat: it's different
2017-12-18 01:51 neonat: your part doesn't have the same percussion
2017-12-18 01:51 Enon: ahh
2017-12-18 01:51 Enon: the red ticks?
2017-12-18 01:52 Enon: maybe
2017-12-18 01:52 Enon: he wanted to make it as similar as mine because its mood is really similar?
2017-12-18 01:52 neonat: not quite
2017-12-18 01:52 neonat: same mood
2017-12-18 01:53 Enon: humm
2017-12-18 01:53 Enon: i didn't say it's same :O
2017-12-18 01:53 Enon: just really similar
2017-12-18 01:54 neonat: still not quite lol
2017-12-18 01:54 neonat: the percussion is much more prevalent in daily's
2017-12-18 01:55 neonat: 05:11:197 (1,2) - the stack pauses in the kiai differ, it's not really consistent
2017-12-18 01:55 neonat: it's 6 beats here from the start of the phrase
2017-12-18 01:55 neonat: it's after 12 at 05:19:504 (1) - 
2017-12-18 01:56 Enon: ????????
2017-12-18 01:56 Enon: what does mean of that number
2017-12-18 01:56 Enon: hard to understand tbh
2017-12-18 01:56 Enon: :(
2017-12-18 01:58 neonat: anyway that's what I have to say from seeing once through
2017-12-18 01:58 Enon: humm
2017-12-18 01:58 Enon: i need your explanation about the part you mentioned "phrase"
2017-12-18 01:59 Enon: humm
2017-12-18 01:59 neonat: it just means when a section of music begins
2017-12-18 01:59 neonat: but that's just a thought on that part
2017-12-18 02:01 Enon: humm
2017-12-18 02:01 Enon: i will consider your suggestions
2017-12-18 02:01 Enon: thank you for your time
Enon
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Enon

neonat wrote:

  1. 01:42:877 (6,8) - there is no music here deleted
  2. 02:06:012 (4,5) - kinda underwhelming spacing when 02:06:127 (5) - is so strong i think lower distance could emphasize the strong sound.
  3. it's weird to start the sliders on the red line 02:15:474 (4) - 02:15:474 (4) - 02:16:397 (4) - etc because the guitars hold at 02:15:358 (3) - then 02:16:281 (3,4) - is a double guitar sound while 02:16:512 - guitar starts here too tried to fix it
  4. 02:15:358 (3,4) - you can merge them all together into a slider fixed
  5. 02:16:281 (3,4,5) - can be like those sliders you ss-ed fixed
  6. 05:11:197 (1,2) - the stack pauses in the kiai differ, it's not really consistent it's 6 beats here from the start of the phrase it's after 12 at 05:19:504 (1) - humm I really didn't understand your said though, I followed the rhythm from the similar part Dailycare has mapped 03:17:666 - ?
Thank you for the checking
Dailycare
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Dailycare
for the S slider on 03:12:127 -
Actually I intended to give a similar experience of the previous part and I also think it isn't a bad choice. Though the drum gets stronger than the previous, the sampling sound is also strong enough. And 03:11:666 (3,4) - they can be a hint that there may be notes following a vocal at the next part.

Also fixed 03:23:204 (1,2,3,4) -

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ZekeyHache
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ZekeyHache
hey I just came to say this map is pretty especially Enon's parts, sorry Dailycare
+5sp and added to favs!
Enon
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Enon
Thank you for the comment, ezek!

Updated Dailycare's part.
Regou
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Regou
quick chat :3
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22:24 Enon: Hey!
22:24 Regou: hi :3
22:25 Enon: Are you busy now?
22:25 Regou: not really
22:26 Enon: then can I ask you to give an opinion for some parts on my map if you don't mind it?
22:26 Regou: sure
22:26 Enon: I need player-based-mapper's opinion
22:26 Enon: thanks!
22:27 *Enon is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/875945 Tatsh - IMAGE -MATERIAL- <Version 0> [Revolution]]
22:27 Enon: which map is this
22:27 Enon: one
22:27 Regou: omg 260 bpm
22:27 Enon: yeah
22:27 Enon: it might be too fast for everyone
22:27 Regou: i can't really play it properly ><
22:27 Regou: by the way which part would you want me to look at
22:29 Enon: 01:42:243 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - 01:58:281 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 03:16:397 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 05:09:004 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 06:22:273 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) -
22:29 Enon: etc
22:29 Enon: Parts are mentioned as "overmapping"
22:29 Enon: so I and dailycare did try to fix them and
22:29 Enon: now you can see the changes
22:30 Regou: 01:42:243 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - lol this one
22:30 Enon: with the changes, i want to see your opinions about it
22:30 Enon: lol
22:30 Enon: maybe
22:30 Regou: it's really hard to sense there's a 1/2 in the middle at first try
22:30 Regou: since it's 260bpm
22:30 Enon: i am going to fix the distance
22:30 Enon: yeayea
22:30 Enon: the part was mistake of me
22:30 Enon: :(
22:31 Enon: 01:42:877 - 01:42:993 -
22:31 Enon: ive removed out
22:31 Regou: i see
22:31 Enon: these
22:31 Enon: from original stream
22:31 Regou: 01:58:858 (4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this is okay i think
22:31 Enon: so it might seems shit
22:31 Enon: lol
22:31 Regou: it follows the music well
22:31 Regou: you can hear they fall on the drum beat
22:31 Enon: that's good to hear
22:32 Regou: 03:16:397 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this could be controversal
22:32 Regou: 03:16:801 (2) - lands on nothing actually
22:32 Regou: but it will play much more smoothly if 03:16:801 (2) - is added
22:32 Regou: plays*
22:33 Regou: combining 03:16:743 (1,2,3) - into a 1/2 could be one of the option tho
22:36 Enon: humm
22:36 Enon: maybe you can post it this log on the thread then dailycare could consider about it?
22:36 Regou: sure
22:36 Enon: thanks!
22:36 Regou: im checking the last two btw
22:36 Enon: how about others ?
22:36 Enon: yes
22:37 Regou: 05:09:812 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - changing them into 1/4 sliders might be better since sound on (2) (4) (6) is extremely weak
22:38 Regou: 06:22:735 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - super cool do a overmapping at the end would like to see this being keeped tbh even tho it's obviously overmapped
22:39 Regou: i think that's all for me :3
22:40 Enon: depends on how dailycare changes it
22:40 Enon: it would be awesome
22:41 Regou: changing some of them into 1/4 sliders might be safer choice
22:41 Regou: i guess
22:41 Regou: anyway let's post this to the thread first
Dailycare
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Dailycare 
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05:09:812 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 지우고 복붙해주세요

thanks for the mod, and I'll keep 03:16:801 (2) - for now but find a better alternative talking to others
Enon
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Enon
Updated!
Garden
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Garden
rebubbled
Enon
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Enon
Thank you so much again!
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NICEEE
Natsu
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Natsu
yo

general

  1. combo color 1 and 2 are too similar, can you make them different pls
diff

  1. 01:28:281 (1,2,3,4) - I think it represents well the music
  2. 01:32:204 (7,8,9,10,1) - this one is ok for me, since there are some bg sounds and I think the stream represents it well
  3. 03:00:589 (1,2,3,4) - every beat should have the same spacing, 1 and 2 being smaller than 3 and 4 doesn't makes much sense to me.
  4. 03:00:935 (4,1) - also this should be a jump considering how strong 1 is.
  5. 00:43:051 (4) - the tail is mapped to a stanza which sounds just wrong, it needs a click action try a circle or smth
  6. 01:02:666 (1) - remove the NC, this is still part of the previous melody, instead add one at 01:03:358 (2) - since there is a change in the music
  7. 01:44:666 (2,5) - stack is off
  8. 01:55:512 (2) - there is a hold sound in the music, pls map it as a long slider like the other ones
  9. 02:06:012 (4,5) - the change on the music is on 5, but ur pattern doesn't represent it well because of how small the spacing is xd
  10. 02:13:743 (1) - this nc doesn't follows anything, remove it and add one at 02:13:973 (3) - were the change in the music happens
  11. 02:28:281 (3,4) - eh the drums changes to every 1/2 beats, use 1/2 circles the sliders doesn't represent well this change in the music
  12. 02:36:935 (10,1) - similar as before, the spacing doesn't represent the music at all, this needs to have higher spacing than the rest
  13. 02:40:627 (8,1) - 02:40:627 (8,1) - same
  14. 02:45:820 (4) - shouldn't this be a NC as the before similar part?
  15. 03:00:935 (4,1) - 1 needs higher spacing to represent the song properly
  16. 04:18:892 (1,1) - the overlap looks super bad T-T
  17. 04:44:889 (5,6) - ignoring the 1/2 strong beats doesn't make any sense with the song
  18. 05:23:888 (4) - don't ignore the triplet pls
Enon
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Enon

Natsu wrote:

yo

general

  1. combo color 1 and 2 are too similar, can you make them different pls fixed
diff

  1. 01:28:281 (1,2,3,4) - I think it represents well the music glad to hear this
  2. 01:32:204 (7,8,9,10,1) - this one is ok for me, since there are some bg sounds and I think the stream represents it well glad to hear this
  3. 03:00:589 (1,2,3,4) - every beat should have the same spacing, 1 and 2 being smaller than 3 and 4 doesn't makes much sense to me. fixed
  4. 03:00:935 (4,1) - also this should be a jump considering how strong 1 is. fixed
  5. 00:43:051 (4) - the tail is mapped to a stanza which sounds just wrong, it needs a click action try a circle or smth fixed
  6. 01:02:666 (1) - remove the NC, this is still part of the previous melody, instead add one at 01:03:358 (2) - since there is a change in the music fixed
  7. 01:44:666 (2,5) - stack is off fixed
  8. 01:55:512 (2) - there is a hold sound in the music, pls map it as a long slider like the other ones i think leaving it an empty is really nice even if i ignore some sound.
  9. 02:06:012 (4,5) - the change on the music is on 5, but ur pattern doesn't represent it well because of how small the spacing is xd i finally fixed it
  10. 02:13:743 (1) - this nc doesn't follows anything, remove it and add one at 02:13:973 (3) - were the change in the music happens fixed
  11. 02:28:281 (3,4) - eh the drums changes to every 1/2 beats, use 1/2 circles the sliders doesn't represent well this change in the music fixed
  12. 02:36:935 (10,1) - similar as before, the spacing doesn't represent the music at all, this needs to have higher spacing than the rest fixed
  13. 02:40:627 (8,1) - 02:40:627 (8,1) - same fixed
  14. 02:45:820 (4) - shouldn't this be a NC as the before similar part? added
  15. 04:18:892 (1,1) - the overlap looks super bad T-T fixed
  16. 04:44:889 (5,6) - ignoring the 1/2 strong beats doesn't make any sense with the song he followed my part 01:18:127 (5,6) - and i think it is fine because there are some sound existing to those 3/4
  17. 05:23:888 (4) - don't ignore the triplet pls i already know there are sounds worth to be stream on 05:23:889 - 05:23:947 - 05:24:004 - 05:24:062 - but i wanted to make 05:23:197 (1,2,3,4) - these a pattern.
Thank you for coming!
Natsu
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축하드립니다 owo
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Euny wrote:

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Monstrata wrote:

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who is enon
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waoh grats
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Congrats! nice work nice sb
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L-a-m-e-y [ B ] wrote:

Gz, best of luck for the army!
thanks for the cheering


appleeaterx wrote:

who is enon
i am nanachii who play osu and map


M a r v o l l o wrote:

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Satellite wrote:

Congrats! nice work nice sb
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Congrats <3
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ailv wrote:

Congrats <3
Thanks <3


Cellina wrote:

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Xelite
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Very nice map! But I want to ask..
01:42:243 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - why you make these streams a bit weird in flow? You could just made this stream (01:42:243 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5) ) angle to the left side of screen instead of right. If you want I can show what I mean, but I want to heard why you chose such decision..
Enon
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It is really not major thing, but if I am going to explain the reason, It was for the aesthetic of the stream.

01:42:589 - and you could hear some changes of music is happened at here. As the song is it, 01:42:589 (1,2,3,4,5) - I expressed this stream differently to 01:42:243 (4,5,6,7,8,9) -

I wanted to express it.
Xelite
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Thanks for answer :)
Enon
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Enon
No problem :)

Have a nice day ~
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01:42:935 (6,1) - what is this
04:32:197 (1,2,1) - ^

you dont do that while the streams are this intense, they're supposed to be easy to read and intuitive to click, right now they're not

At 01:42:935 (6,1) - there's not a single thing pointing out that there should be a 1/4 slider in the music, it's confusing. It's just a continuous 1/4 stream in the music, and that's how it should be mapped. This pattern makes no sense at the moment. Replace 01:42:819 (5) - with a repeating slider with 3 repeats and delete 01:42:935 (6), snap correctly with proper spacing, my suggestion (the way to fix is just a suggestion but this has to be fixed nonetheless).

Also the clap hitsound at 01:42:589 (1) - is weird, it should be at the previous white tick 01:42:358 (6) -

Same here 01:43:166 (3) - why would you place a clap at the red tick instead white tick 01:42:819 (5,5) - as you did before?

04:30:927 (1,2) - Looks like you kinda run out of ideas to map this part. Honestly it doesn't fit the music at all, listen in 25%/50%. The music has a static beat that can be easily emphasized with 1/4 sliders (although that would be kinda hard to play). For starters, 04:30:927 (1) - should not be a part of a new combo, it's still a part of the previous pattern, making it a new combo is very confusing as it belongs to the previous section in the music.

The whole part starting from 04:30:581 (1) - and ending at 04:32:889 (1) - seems like a total mess and should be remapped.
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