not to imply luna or mashley sucks but LS is above average and usually discusses while weighing out the pros and cons of stuff before they do it
they seem eager
they seem eager
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I don't see why you would try to "exploit" what Wojjan said by soft claiming because it's the exact same thing as mass claiming imoTwo wrote:
well someone is nervous about what town can learn from this
just what exactly do you think we could learn from this besides chancing mafia getting an obvious advantage/ability from it
I want to know as much as possible about how this was set up without giving them an advantage. It looks pretty bad if 3 people claim werewolf game, for example, and 2 of them die and show up as mafia. The only way you can really be opposed to this is if you know something we don't.
or if you're oblivious to the fact Wojjan said 500x that mafia would be ready for claimingTwo wrote:
I want to know as much as possible about how this was setup without giving them an advantage. It looks pretty bad if 3 people claim werewolf game, for example, and 2 of them die and show up as mafia. The only way you can really be opposed to this is if you know something we don't.
you seem more mafia than LS
Normal games: (before the anti-massclaim craze)Chris wrote:
unvote vote: LadySuburu
just saying ok to a soft claim without even discussing it at all
yeah right you just want your mafia ability that's not like you at all
Two: Let's massclaim.
Town massclaims.
Town benefits nicely.
This game:
Mod: There's anti-massclaim features in place.
Two: Let's softclaim then.
Based on massclaims benefiting town, and knowing a true massclaim hurts town, softclaim forces scum to fake one of the games they are from, and most likely will still benefit town.
Very nice attempt at painting me though chris, I now have a lead this game, day 1 at that.
Vote: Chris
wow you really are under pressure aren't you LS
I've never seen you vote for someone because they voted for you D1
I've never seen you vote for someone because they voted for you D1
how can you imply you know a softclaim wouldn't have the exact same effects as a massclaimLadySuburu wrote:
Based on massclaims benefiting town, and knowing a true massclaim hurts town, softclaim forces scum to fake one of the games they are from, and most likely will still benefit town.
Very nice attempt at painting me though chris, I now have a lead this game, day 1 at that.
Vote: Chris
nt being subtle
If you'll look at my previous games, in actuality I almost never even vote D1.Chris wrote:
wow you really are under pressure aren't you LS
I've never seen you vote for someone because they voted for you D1
You know why? Because I have no leads and it's always RV bullcrap.
actually it's not, rv it's crap but it can lead to interesting talks and to interesting reads, i do find out about a lot of things d1.
I don't "Know", but I can assume.Chris wrote:
how can you imply you know a softclaim wouldn't have the exact same effects as a massclaim
nt being subtle
Implying you know what I mean to make me look scummier, nt being subtle.
so you would risk giving mafia an advantage based on assumption when you could simply not do it at all insteadLadySuburu wrote:
I don't "Know", but I can assume.Chris wrote:
how can you imply you know a softclaim wouldn't have the exact same effects as a massclaim
nt being subtle
Implying you know what I mean to make me look scummier, nt being subtle.
so pro town of you
That's what a gambit is, Chris. You seem awfully reluctant to take any risk that could benefit town.Chris wrote:
so you would risk giving mafia an advantage based on assumption when you could simply not do it at all instead
so pro town of you
See: Me coroner claiming D1 in WWG.
risks are best taken day 1 anyway
we have a cushion of 22 players
we have a cushion of 22 players
EBWOP: Insomniac.LadySuburu wrote:
That's what a gambit is, Chris. You seem awfully reluctant to take any risk that could benefit town.Chris wrote:
so you would risk giving mafia an advantage based on assumption when you could simply not do it at all instead
so pro town of you
See: Mecoronerclaiming D1 in WWG.
of course I'm reluctant to possibly give mafia an opportunity to have an advantage the entire game just because a few people think softclaiming is some type of exploit that Wojjan didn't considerLadySuburu wrote:
That's what a gambit is, Chris. You seem awfully reluctant to take any risk that could benefit town.
See: Me coroner claiming D1 in WWG.
your entire point is "yeah it could help mafia but on the slim chance Wojjan was dumb enough to put all the mafia in one game, let's do it!"
it doesn't matter what day if it lasts the entire gameTwo wrote:
risks are best taken day 1 anyway
we have a cushion of 22 players
it doesn't even have to be about wojjan putting all the mafia in 1 game for it to be useful
this conversation, for example, is a wonderful by-product
you don't have to talk for LS in the threadTwo wrote:
it doesn't even have to be about wojjan putting all the mafia in 1 game for it to be useful
thats what day chat is for
but care to explain how
Scumpaint harder.Chris wrote:
your entire point is "yeah it could help mafia but on the slim chance Wojjan was dumb enough to put all the mafia in one game, let's do it!"
If I believed that this strategy didn't have a higher chance of helping town than hurting it, I wouldn't have gone through with it.
If I believed that Wojjan would put all the mafia in one game, I would be an idiot.
My point is, that I believe claiming what game we're from as stated above has a higher chance to help town than hurt it.
Your entire posts are "Let's take something LS is saying, intentionally misinterpret or flat out change it, and post it as if it's what they said and truely mean!"
Wojjan, you impress even the best creative writers out there, I'm sure. (If anyone asks, no, I am nowhere NEAR as good as being creative)
Also, I should probably make a RV, shouldn't I? ...Nah, not worth my time for a RV.
@Softclaiming: I don't even know what game mine came from, to be honest. Then again, I don't really research unless it's really necessary. =/
Also, I should probably make a RV, shouldn't I? ...Nah, not worth my time for a RV.
@Softclaiming: I don't even know what game mine came from, to be honest. Then again, I don't really research unless it's really necessary. =/
unless mafia roles are different
maybe that's why chris has such an aversion to it
maybe that's why chris has such an aversion to it
Two: ... *headdesk* Duh.
Instead of softclaiming, I'm giving out a hint: It's the prequel to my first game on the forums.
FYI, I love giving hints. :3
Instead of softclaiming, I'm giving out a hint: It's the prequel to my first game on the forums.
FYI, I love giving hints. :3
I've explained fully why I think it's stupidTwo wrote:
unless mafia roles are different
maybe that's why chris has such an aversion to it
the fact you and LS are so desperate to have everyone softclaim is what I don't get when it could screw town and you can't even explain how it's useful at all
and two the only thing anyone has to do to gain your trust is agree with you
they will be in your blind spot the rest of the game
oh stfu with your hints
even as a spectator they're enragingly pointless
even as a spectator they're enragingly pointless
Salvage: RVs are obviously easy to do, to be honest. Anyone can simply make a RV and put pressure on people.
Too bad that strategy doesn't work on me.
Too bad that strategy doesn't work on me.
it's not RV, and i don't mind pressuring you cause you already claimed mafia to me.
Two: I'm a bastard when I do things. Keep that in mind.
(No, I don't think I'm as evil as LS and his bastard mods, but I could be)
(No, I don't think I'm as evil as LS and his bastard mods, but I could be)
Salvage: You're so clever. My first post might've been a slip, but that's because I didn't think the URL on the role PM linked to the game it came from, but rather, to the MS wiki explaining what it is.
So, how exactally am I desperate?Chris wrote:
the fact you and LS are so desperate to have everyone softclaim is what I don't get when it could screw town and you can't even explain how it's useful at all
Things I have done in relation to the softclaim strategy:
1. Softclaim.
2. Attack you for your arguments against me (which relate to the softclaim strategy), most of which contain some form of scumpainting.
Oh, and nice try again with painting me. Though, it's getting a little old.
I guess there isn't too many ways to word mafia is there swiftwolf
scumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintscumpaintLadySuburu wrote:
So, how exactally am I desperate?Chris wrote:
the fact you and LS are so desperate to have everyone softclaim is what I don't get when it could screw town and you can't even explain how it's useful at all
Things I have done in relation to the softclaim strategy:
1. Softclaim.
2. Attack you for your arguments against me (which relate to the softclaim strategy), most of which contain some form of scumpainting.
Oh, and nice try again with painting me. Though, it's getting a little old.
do you have anything else to say or are you stuck on how to show softclaiming helps anything
Nice table stretch, Chris. >_>
I think you're both trying to separate from each other, by the looks of it. You're BOTH on the same topic, so why don't you look elsewhere?
I think you're both trying to separate from each other, by the looks of it. You're BOTH on the same topic, so why don't you look elsewhere?
Hi guys.
I'm from Mafia Game which under further investigation is absolutely the game that Two hosted.
I'm a role directly from that game.
I'm from Mafia Game which under further investigation is absolutely the game that Two hosted.
I'm a role directly from that game.
..Wow. That game brings back memories.
...Dunno why I'm being nostalgic right now.
...Dunno why I'm being nostalgic right now.
cause it's an easy way to divert discussion imo
the only reason I haven't voted for you is cause you didn't actually softclaim
the only reason I haven't voted for you is cause you didn't actually softclaim