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Shimotsuki Haruka - Konpeitou Retrotica - Another Flower ver

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Narcissu
@Mikkuri : all fix

NucleaRaven wrote:

Hi from my queue o/

[Easy]
  1. 00:42:586 (3) - This slider isnt straight but 00:44:050 (4) - is? Make either both straight or both slightly angled pls. …… want not use ctrl+v all aprt …… i like random 【
  2. 00:51:367 (1) - i would personally make this slider bend the other way to avoid overlap and for slightly better flow but up to you!……ok
  3. 01:48:440 (4) - i think this would look cleaner if it had the same angle as 01:46:977 (3) -
thats all i need to put down for this diff - its pretty much perfect i think - just your slider angles are a tad off sometimes.

[Insane]
  1. 02:03:257 (6) - you can place this note better.……don't mind it xd
  2. 02:04:903 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - make this a perfect triangle? You are close……perfect triangle look like dull , i want to random
  3. 02:11:489 (4) - i really like this idea - but i think you need to move it a little closer as it seems forced.
  4. 03:26:123 - spinner? …… no
Nice map and amazing hitsounds!
Gl!
Xinely

  • Easy
  1. 00:22:098 - would suggest finish too here because the cymbal
  2. 00:16:245 - 00:27:952 - ^
  3. 00:44:050 (4) - make this a bit not straight like 00:42:586 (3) - , keep same the level position node tail
  4. 01:55:757 (1) - i'd say drag the middle node to 404,92. the slider looks quite curve but not for making blanket. somehow looks a bit forced for me
  5. 02:03:806 (2) - i'd say make this slider curved more a bit, better to see and having better flow too i guess https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4524270
  6. 02:08:196 (2) - same with above if you agree
  7. 02:40:757 - well SV change usually isnt recommended in easy, also imo 0,4x is already slooww, and i feel 0,25x slower and i would confuse to reduce my actual moving mouse speed from i got 2 mins 30 sec before face up this part


  • Normal
  1. 00:39:293 - add note for consistency with 00:33:440 (3) -
  2. 00:56:123 - should map this imo, the vocal is so strong
  3. 00:59:781 - ^
  4. 01:05:635 (4) - 84,320 has better (smoother flow)
  5. 01:19:903 (4) - i would say to not use 1/8 here, the vocal is ambiguous but almost in 01:20:269 - and that sound in 1/8 appears in 01:20:269 - too so would be weird if you map the 1/8 but not for 1/2, try other rhythm will be nicer
  6. 02:27:220 (2) - 32,108 will give better flow for me as it doesnt go too down while you doing the curve in downward too, if agree then 02:28:318 (3) - 76,328
  7. 02:30:147 - should map this, it's part of snare sound from 02:30:513 -
  8. 02:38:562 - 02:38:928 - 02:38:928 - map them, would be very empty if you have no notes for full measure
  9. 02:45:513 - if you map piano then you should map this too, i think you follow piano more here as you skip vocals like 02:46:245 - 02:41:854 - so would suggest to map it really
  10. 02:57:220 - ^
  11. 03:03:257 (4) - really suggest to map with easier rhythm or whatever, you map 1/6 when your Easy full of 1/1 , will be dangerous for sure
  12. 03:12:952 (1) - if you want to make a circle flow from 03:11:489 (3) - till this then i'd say ctrl+g, looks cute for me


  • Hard
  1. 00:23:928 (2) - since you did this pattern in begining, try ctrl+g to give a variation?
  2. 00:32:251 (4) - there is a music for this but quite ambigious and hard to hear in 100% speed. just like overmap in 100% speed imo
  3. 00:38:104 (5) - ^
  4. 01:03:074 (1) - stack in previous slider's tail instead, i'd read this for catch in 1/4 if use anti jump
  5. 01:07:464 (1,2) - ctrl+g for better flow
  6. 01:11:123 (3) - curve this like (4) for keep the flow
  7. 01:28:318 (2) - i'd say ctrl+g, you did many jumps for this diff, the spread somehow looks quite big for me
  8. 02:04:354 (2) - the jump is quite far imo
  9. 02:34:903 (1) - no 1/8 music following from this slider, yeah prefer make to 1/2 slider because the music sounds like that


  • Insane
  1. AR 8,3 or 8,5 please, AR 9 too fast really for slow bpm


  • Sharlo
  1. OD 8,5 would be nice for Insane+

good luck ~
Topic Starter
Narcissu

Xinely wrote:


  • Easy
  1. 00:22:098 - would suggest finish too here because the cymbal …… i think normal-whistle better
  2. 00:16:245 - 00:27:952 - ^
  3. 00:44:050 (4) - make this a bit not straight like 00:42:586 (3) - , keep same the level position node tail …… all parallel not my wish
  4. 01:55:757 (1) - i'd say drag the middle node to 404,92. the slider looks quite curve but not for making blanket. somehow looks a bit forced for me …… too nazi lol
  5. 02:03:806 (2) - i'd say make this slider curved more a bit, better to see and having better flow too i guess …… ↑↑↑ https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4524270
  6. 02:08:196 (2) - same with above if you agree
  7. 02:40:757 - well SV change usually isnt recommended in easy, also imo 0,4x is already slooww, and i feel 0,25x slower and i would confuse to reduce my actual moving mouse speed from i got 2 mins 30 sec before face up this part …… i don't think so ……


  • Normal
  1. 00:39:293 - add note for consistency with 00:33:440 (3) - …… e …… skip click here , 00:39:659 - more obviously
  2. 00:56:123 - should map this imo, the vocal is so strong
  3. 00:59:781 - ^
  4. 01:05:635 (4) - 84,320 has better (smoother flow)
  5. 01:19:903 (4) - i would say to not use 1/8 here, the vocal is ambiguous but almost in 01:20:269 - and that sound in 1/8 appears in 01:20:269 - too so would be weird if you map the 1/8 but not for 1/2, try other rhythm will be nicer …… player will follow voice , because it's obviously than drum
  6. 02:27:220 (2) - 32,108 will give better flow for me as it doesnt go too down while you doing the curve in downward too, if agree then 02:28:318 (3) - 76,328
  7. 02:30:147 - should map this, it's part of snare sound from 02:30:513 -
  8. 02:38:562 - 02:38:928 - 02:38:928 - map them, would be very empty if you have no notes for full measure
  9. 02:45:513 - if you map piano then you should map this too, i think you follow piano more here as you skip vocals like 02:46:245 - 02:41:854 - so would suggest to map it really
  10. 02:57:220 - ^
  11. 03:03:257 (4) - really suggest to map with easier rhythm or whatever, you map 1/6 when your Easy full of 1/1 , will be dangerous for sure …… no problem imo
  12. 03:12:952 (1) - if you want to make a circle flow from 03:11:489 (3) - till this then i'd say ctrl+g, looks cute for me


  • Hard
  1. 00:23:928 (2) - since you did this pattern in begining, try ctrl+g to give a variation? …… same direction is my wish ……
  2. 00:32:251 (4) - there is a music for this but quite ambigious and hard to hear in 100% speed. just like overmap in 100% speed imo …… no problem imo
  3. 00:38:104 (5) - ^
  4. 01:03:074 (1) - stack in previous slider's tail instead, i'd read this for catch in 1/4 if use anti jump …… follow the music , none will think it's 1/4
  5. 01:07:464 (1,2) - ctrl+g for better flow …… ok
  6. 01:11:123 (3) - curve this like (4) for keep the flow
  7. 01:28:318 (2) - i'd say ctrl+g, you did many jumps for this diff, the spread somehow looks quite big for me
  8. 02:04:354 (2) - the jump is quite far imo
  9. 02:34:903 (1) - no 1/8 music following from this slider, yeah prefer make to 1/2 slider because the music sounds like that …… a …… it's 1/3


  • Insane
  1. AR 8,3 or 8,5 please, AR 9 too fast really for slow bpm …… ar9 is best ar for new player

good luck ~
no reply = no change ……
Rincewind
Just returning the star I got from this map.
Good luck.
Sharlo
啊是不是要回摸了
Kibbleru
sharlo's diff is new im guessing
00:29:415 (1) - why bezier slider here xD
02:34:903 (1) - i think the 1/3 starts here so i would use one of these 02:35:635 (1) -

k ill recheck the rest later
Sharlo

Mikkuri wrote:

[Sharlo's Rosa]
  1. 01:28:684 (5) - like this? k
  2. 03:38:013 (2,3,4,5) - like this?
  3. 03:50:086 (4) - move this to x:440 y:136 ?

Xinely wrote:


  • Sharlo
  1. OD 8,5 would be nice for Insane+ k

Kibbleru wrote:

sharlo's diff is new im guessing
00:29:415 (1) - why bezier slider here xD
02:34:903 (1) - i think the 1/3 starts here so i would use one of these 02:35:635 (1) -

fixed all.
Topic Starter
Narcissu
wait my computer revived ... :?

updata
Kibbleru
do u have a source for metadata?

also 'Sharlo's Rosa' sounded cooler xd

i would also recommend making the combo colors consistent

are you going to just keep the hs volume for ur diff consistent throughout the entire map? owo
places like 00:27:952 - could use lower and kiais could be higher imo

why are all diffs 2.00 sv haha oh well its fine, u changed them through multipliers
Topic Starter
Narcissu
source ? i don't know xd, metadata by Mamayu (fuyuyu-) http://nakae-mitsuki.net/retrotica/ and nanaka, Chinese network can't do something 【【【

Translation software say “玫瑰 = Rosa” rip my english

i don't mind change combo colors, but maybe Sharlo don't want to, what colors your prefer ? in fact my colors is my skin

i think same volume is ok when i do the map, because different hitsound density for different part ……but if volume need't change, maybe SV need‘t change too ? i don't know, just changed. volume = (SV - 1)* 100% now except 02:38:013 -

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/171126 ← the map teach me use 1.0 SV lol, 2012 map 170BPM 4.1 star, 2014 map 164 BPM 4.4 star
Sharlo
还真是了解我= =
Kibbleru
any combo color is fine, just make it consistent


fk im so confused with metadata xd where does ' Another Flower ver.' come in lol cant seem to find it on that website u linked
gunna ask kwan maybe >>

IamKwaN wrote:

Probably this.

http://puu.sh/nIcSQ/06d9a64aea.png from http://shimotsukin.com/753/af2/
http://puu.sh/nIcZw/d588104f43.png from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtK5G9MGkZE

Need some time to check the romanisations. Will approach you again later.


still waiting on romanisations xD
can somebody confirm this?

SPOILER
17:43 Kibbleru: can u take a look at a romanization for me owo
17:43 -[Koinuri]: ok owo
17:43 Kibbleru: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/401324
17:43 Kibbleru: just wana know if its correct or not owo
17:48 -[Koinuri]: http://nakae-mitsuki.net/retrotica/crbanner500.jpg I think found a banner or something for that album
17:49 -[Koinuri]: Konpeitou is a Japanese word so I think it should be the same but "Retorochika" is probably a made up word that combines English words so I think it should be "retrotica" like this thing
17:49 Kibbleru: what does retrotica even mean lol ><
17:50 -[Koinuri]: lol Idk
17:50 -[Koinuri]: I think it's "Retro" + something with "~tica"
17:50 Kibbleru: i doubt thats an english word lol
17:51 Kibbleru: google doenst recognize it :( http://puu.sh/nLqap/255189acc3.png
17:51 -[Koinuri]: Yeah, that's why I think it's made up, like
17:51 *-[Koinuri] is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/249435 Zips - Mushikui Psychedelism [Guard Up!]]
17:52 Kibbleru: psychedelism
17:52 -[Koinuri]: psychedelism
17:53 Kibbleru: man
17:53 Kibbleru: metadata ><
17:53 -[Koinuri]: rip
KSHR
Got a forum pm from Kibbleru


1. Title
I also wondered where "Another Flower ver." comes from, but websites and screenshots that KwaN provided look like the valid source for it.

2. Romanisation
I'm 100% sure the current romanized title is against the rule because レトロチカ is obviously the loan word. Therefore it should be Konpeitou Retrotica (according to the url ↓).


3. Tags
  1. ○ しちごさん。 × しちごさん
  2. 753. (http://eleol.net/753/)
  3. Is it really necessary to add M3-35..?
  4. I don't think MeltyRecord that Noah belongs to is necessary because it's unrelated to the song itself.
  5. It's the first time for me to see the mapper adding the vocalist's nickname (シモツキン) to Tags.. lol
  6. I have no idea how to read 幾丹弥吹


That's it from me. /me leaves rest to KwaN
Topic Starter
Narcissu

KSHR wrote:

It's the first time for me to see the mapper adding the vocalist's nickname (シモツキン) to Tags.. lol …… my english lv1 and my japanese lv0, i don't know it's nickname 233

I have no idea how to read 幾丹弥吹 …… i can read it use chinese :roll:
hope my translation software is not wrong ……
KSHR
read my post carefully. 753.
About the nickname in Tags, if I were you, I would remove it from there because I assume no one will search the map with it :p
Topic Starter
Narcissu
nani, the “.” not end for a sentence :?

removed …… but about me ……i DL map 40% by MP, 40% by singer, 20% by Modder req, never by tag lol
KSHR
AAAAAAA

Check the first line in "3. Tags" and the following website again!!
http://eleol.net/753/
Topic Starter
Narcissu
o i don't know what should i do, i can't read japanese except “イベント価格:2000円” , maybe i should add it in tag because someone just only remind the price ?

KSHR



しちごさん。
× しちごさん



The reason why I told you to add . is, because this artist group's name is しちごさん not しちごさん!!!!
So what you should do with Tags is, adding 。 after しちごさん in Tags.
Topic Starter
Narcissu
i forget save it

KSHR
Metadata approved by KSHR =w=b
Kibbleru
oh. thanks kshr

i approve now =w=b

gder diff has different combo colors from the rest but i guess thats fine since its gd
Topic Starter
Narcissu
thx metadata and bubble …… so many map bubble by kibb :?
Shurelia
Star because Shimotsuki Haruka.

Hit me up if you need mod!

already bubbled , hype
IamKwaN

IamKwaN wrote:

\o

Unicode Title: 金平糖レトロチカ - Another Flower ver. -
Romanised Title: Confetti Retrotica - Another Flower ver. -
Unicode Artist: 霜月はるか
Romanised Artist: Haruka Shimotsuki

References:
http://puu.sh/nIcSQ/06d9a64aea.png from http://shimotsukin.com/753/af2/
http://puu.sh/nIcZw/d588104f43.png from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtK5G9MGkZE
http://puu.sh/nIdcR/09c1ff0f50.jpg from http://nakae-mitsuki.net/retrotica/#link
http://puu.sh/nIdfV/dd7a20e7bc.jpg from ^
http://puu.sh/nOmfR/cc0dce0018.jpg from http://shimotsukin.com/project/melo/
http://puu.sh/nOmgf/a0ceaf570d.jpg from http://shimotsukin.com/
http://puu.sh/nOmgJ/5f6021c16e.png from ^

Good luck la o/
lol sorry that I am late every time sending PM. Anyone give a check? Senpai please <3
KSHR
As you requested, my kouhai w

About the romanised title, aren't screenshots at 3rd/4th line in References the translated title for the song?
I know well that Japanese word in lyrics is sometimes read in the English reading, however since you can't tell if it's really the romanised title unless there's something reliable (e.g. the way the vocalist sings), we should rely on the current title imo.


Other than that, I totally agree with KwaN's check :p



To the next BN;
Tell the mappter to add "Confetti" to Tags before qualifying the map. I missed it :/
Topic Starter
Narcissu
kkk, update

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Shurelia wrote:

Star because Shimotsuki Haruka.

Hit me up if you need mod!

already bubbled , hype
don't mind, mod feel free
IamKwaN
\o/ ok senpai, サンキュー
Kibbleru
rebubble since it got popped
Topic Starter
Narcissu
e …… i'm sorry ..
Karen
heyo~

[Insane]
  1. 02:40:025 - 到 03:01:245 - 一大段都没音效,随便加点吧,低难度一样
  2. 03:33:806 - 漏whistle吗
  3. 03:45:513 - ^
  4. 00:22:464 - ^
[Sharlo's Rose]
  1. 02:01:367 (1,1) - 这两个应该不在1/3上,在02:01:428 - 1/4
  2. 03:17:159 (5,6,1) - 这不是故意的吧
Topic Starter
Narcissu
安靜的部分我放了60音量……我覺得比降音量放音效舒服

other fix
Karen
这不行,有规定的不能大段没音效,不少图吃过亏,如果可以我就不会写了
Topic Starter
Narcissu
我知道,我看飛球DQ過一個。講道理啊hit-normal也是音效,扔whistle要降音量不然whistle太響,降了音量沒whistle的地方才是真的打空氣,合著我把hit-normal名字換成whistle然後音量減半所有位置都扔一個。實際效果不變就一個unrankable一個rankable?

hit-normal = hit-whistle

hit-normal * 60% = ( hit-normal + hit-whistle )*30%

↓↓↓ ↓↓↓

unrankable ≠ rankable
Sharlo

Karen wrote:

[Sharlo's Rose]
  1. 02:01:367 (1,1) - 这两个应该不在1/3上,在02:01:428 - 1/4 跟的不是那两个 是较弱一点的 你开25%听听 能听到
  2. 03:17:159 (5,6,1) - 这不是故意的吧 开了堆叠效果就这鸟样了 已fix
Karen
SKSalt
Congrats~
Satellite
おめでとう~ :D
rui
おめでとう~! ;)
Asahina Momoko
おめでとう! :oops:
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