16:08 Titus: hows the timing?
16:08 Arphimigon: confusing to play tbh
16:08 Arphimigon: idk my accuracy was pretty solid
16:08 Arphimigon: you can uh
16:08 Arphimigon: delete that first timing point
16:08 Arphimigon: 00:02:091 - just set one here
16:09 Titus: to be fair it kinda went to shit after the slow slider
16:10 Titus: i think the single hit triangles worked but everything else after was hit and miss especially the singles into sliders here 00:08:794 (2) -
16:11 Titus: definitely better than my previous attempts at mapping imo
16:13 Titus: the only thing i seem to keep changing on is what am i actually mapping to, like from the start im doing the vocals but then i go to drums then i just ignore everything pretty much
16:13 Arphimigon: firstly
16:13 Arphimigon: slider tick rate 2 sucks on dis
16:13 Arphimigon: set to 1
16:13 Arphimigon: next of all the start is just overdone as fuck like wat
16:13 Titus: yeh i did, just haven't actually updated the submitted version
16:14 Arphimigon: mapping to every 1/2 and spacing everything massively
16:14 Arphimigon: is not noice emphasis
16:14 Arphimigon: on smth that isnt very intense
16:14 Arphimigon: 00:03:527 (4,5,6,7) - ykno stuff like this
16:15 Arphimigon: 00:08:794 (2,3,4,5,6) - this rly just plays awkwardly with the angles and shizz
16:15 Arphimigon: spacing is offputting, changes wayyyyyyyyyy too quickly
16:15 Titus: yeh, trying to make a new start that follows the guitar i think it is i hear
16:15 Arphimigon: always map
16:15 Arphimigon: to the most obvious thing
16:16 Arphimigon: in this case, you can map to the vocals and just make sure the downbeats have a sound, and you should be fine
16:16 Titus: gonna go out on a whim and say not the vocals though
16:16 Titus: oh ok
16:16 Titus: guess i could try it, but how would you do it, map to the start of a word or what
16:16 Arphimigon: classic case is
16:16 Arphimigon: 00:08:953 (3) -
16:16 Arphimigon: ends on a stronger sound than it starts
16:17 Arphimigon: the lyrics are arguably higher pitched and there is a drum sound aswell
16:17 Titus: yeh that section.. lets just imagine it doesnt exist lel
16:17 Arphimigon: mapping to vocals is in general a lyric per word
16:17 Arphimigon: ok which section DOES exist
16:17 Arphimigon: lol
16:17 Titus: everything but that part
16:17 Titus: xD
16:17 Arphimigon: 00:11:346 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is kinda uh
16:17 Arphimigon: weird
16:18 Titus: that part was a bad idea i didnt know what to change for
16:18 Arphimigon: 00:11:825 (4) - is only strong part
16:18 Arphimigon: emphasise all the odd numbers
16:18 Arphimigon: and esp 00:12:304 (7) -
16:18 Arphimigon: well actually
16:18 Arphimigon: you have a few options here
16:19 Arphimigon: emphasising odd numbers, or making everything increase in spacing
16:19 Arphimigon: as it has a buildup feel rite
16:19 Titus: ok
16:20 Arphimigon: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4280788 example]
16:20 Titus: well, i feel like the buildups should be spaced but i keep making jumps or triangles and shit and then it feels too fast
16:20 Arphimigon: each pair of two here is slightly bigger than last and final note is pressurd
16:20 Arphimigon: ez
16:21 Titus: mmk
16:21 Arphimigon: there are a bunch of ways you could do that
16:21 Arphimigon: basically how you do it is ur style but either way make sure it makes sens
16:21 Titus: ye
16:21 Titus: im pretty bad at patterns
16:21 Arphimigon: 00:16:293 (7,8,9,10) - this is plain no
16:21 Arphimigon: offbeat sliders like dis
16:21 Arphimigon: r bad
16:22 Arphimigon: only use offbeat sliders
16:22 Arphimigon: when the main instrument is using them really clearly
16:22 Titus: so keep that section to single notes then
16:22 Arphimigon: not really
16:23 Titus: and wtf a fly just landed on my screen and died
16:23 Arphimigon: well if you think about it the most powerful instrument
16:23 Arphimigon: plays in 1/2 doubles
16:23 Arphimigon: at the start
16:23 Arphimigon: then it kinda switches up
16:23 Arphimigon: 00:13:580 - 00:13:740 - 00:14:059 - 00:14:219 - 00:14:538 - for the start
16:24 Arphimigon: 00:15:495 (2,3,4,5,6) - this is cool
16:24 Titus: yeh i tried to make a star
16:24 Arphimigon: anyways just try mapping everything a little simpler, look for what seems really obvious to play to, not background instruments, and then add those in after
16:25 Arphimigon: its kinda hard to incorporate instrument switching/multiple instrument emphasis
16:25 Arphimigon: I do it a bit but tbh just mapping to the main instrument or vocal with details of the rest is nicer to play to
16:26 Arphimigon: I did it a bunch here
16:26 *Arphimigon is listening to Mikami Shiori - Watashi, Shuyaku no Akaza Akari desu (Happy Euri Mix)
16:26 Arphimigon: switching from vocal to instrumentz
16:26 Titus: so its not a bad thing to go from, in this case, drums to vocals often?
16:26 Titus: vice versa
16:26 Arphimigon: its not bad as long as it is easy to understand
16:26 Titus: ok
16:26 Arphimigon: try to switch between them when uh
16:26 Arphimigon: either one stands out more
16:27 Arphimigon: or during regular time intervals
16:27 Arphimigon: so it makes it easier to read :^)
16:27 Titus: 00:34:325 (1) - so say for example the little drum part here
16:28 Titus: personally i would end it with a short stream and then map to vocals after
16:28 Arphimigon: >34 seconds
16:28 Arphimigon: dude mine only goes up to 17
16:28 Arphimigon: much xd
16:28 Titus: mine does
16:28 Titus: but i added a note there so if u click it it should take u to 34 sec just has no note?
16:29 Titus: or atleast that was the idea lol
16:29 Arphimigon: ye
16:29 Arphimigon: no note
16:29 Arphimigon: ok then
16:29 Arphimigon: ill check
16:29 Titus: sry had a phone call as i was trying to type it out
16:29 Arphimigon: on that you can pretty much follow either drums or vocal
16:29 Arphimigon: better for uh
16:29 Arphimigon: drums
16:29 Arphimigon: cus they are more consistent
16:29 Arphimigon: and no 1/1 or longer holds
16:30 Titus: kk
16:30 Arphimigon: howver during the chorus here 00:44:219 -
16:30 Arphimigon: MAP THE BASSSSsssssssssssss
16:30 Arphimigon: muuuuuch more emphasis and notes to map to
16:31 Titus: yeh i hear it