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nimfa109
Playing this map is really fun especially when you fc streams. It's very satisfactory.
Tassadar
nice bg :^)
anyways this map is super fun but please change patterns like 02:03:087 (1) - those kinda jumps work with sliders because slider leniency is cool but with notes the movement is really really jerky and forced
also increase the od, od 7 is a bit too easy for 200bpm 6.66* streams imo
might do a full mod later, but this map is mostly solid imo
Topic Starter
SD CARD

Tassadar wrote:

nice bg :^)
anyways this map is super fun but please change patterns like 02:03:087 (1) - those kinda jumps work with sliders because slider leniency is cool but with notes the movement is really really jerky and forced alright i totally remapped that part, going to check other patterns like that too.
also increase the od, od 7 is a bit too easy for 200bpm 6.66* streams imo yeh changed to od 8, kind of forgot about that lol
might do a full mod later, but this map is mostly solid imo
Thanks for modding!
nimfa109
:^)
2016-01-23 23:09 SD CARD: tell me if you find anything youd like to change :D
2016-01-23 23:09 [ Nimfagryuf ]: I'll try
2016-01-23 23:09 [ Nimfagryuf ]: its
2016-01-23 23:09 [ Nimfagryuf ]: hard
2016-01-23 23:10 [ Nimfagryuf ]: especially in this map
2016-01-23 23:10 SD CARD: how come
2016-01-23 23:12 [ Nimfagryuf ]: 02:22:287 - maybe make more twisted stream
2016-01-23 23:13 SD CARD: yeah true it looks kind of bad
2016-01-23 23:13 SD CARD: :D
2016-01-23 23:18 [ Nimfagryuf ]: 03:13:212 - I think it will look better if spacing will be like from 3 - 8 combo
2016-01-23 23:18 [ Nimfagryuf ]: but I can be wrong
2016-01-23 23:22 SD CARD: yep im fixing it
2016-01-23 23:22 SD CARD: thanks :D
2016-01-23 23:23 [ Nimfagryuf ]: 03:31:137 - 03:31:512 - too straight I think
2016-01-23 23:23 [ Nimfagryuf ]: and yup
2016-01-23 23:23 [ Nimfagryuf ]: I like twisted streams xD
2016-01-23 23:25 [ Nimfagryuf ]: 03:56:787 - change that circle with that 03:56:937
2016-01-23 23:25 [ Nimfagryuf ]: I think it will be a bit easier to read
2016-01-23 23:27 [ Nimfagryuf ]: 4:16:212 - this one circle is a bit too close
2016-01-23 23:27 [ Nimfagryuf ]: 04:16:212
2016-01-23 23:27 [ Nimfagryuf ]: lel
2016-01-23 23:29 [ Nimfagryuf ]: 04:29:787 - try lengthen this slider to white beat
2016-01-23 23:29 [ Nimfagryuf ]: Im really not sure about that but u can try
2016-01-23 23:33 [ Nimfagryuf ]: orrr delete 04:32:637 and lengthen slider to here
2016-01-23 23:33 [ Nimfagryuf ]: idk which option is better
2016-01-23 23:35 SD CARD: ohh
2016-01-23 23:35 SD CARD: it actually starts at 04:32:637 (1) -
2016-01-23 23:35 SD CARD: ye ill delete it
2016-01-23 23:38 [ Nimfagryuf ]: 05:38:037 - too straight
2016-01-23 23:41 [ Nimfagryuf ]: 05:42:387 - I love that slider <3
2016-01-23 23:42 [ Nimfagryuf ]: dont change that plz
2016-01-23 23:44 SD CARD: <3 ok for you
2016-01-23 23:44 [ Nimfagryuf ]: 05:55:887 - it looks a bit oddly
2016-01-23 23:47 [ Nimfagryuf ]: 6:06:087 - a bit emmm, make it more twisty
2016-01-23 23:48 [ Nimfagryuf ]: 06:09:087 - same
2016-01-23 23:51 [ Nimfagryuf ]: 06:34:212 (8) - too close to 06:34:137 (7)
2016-01-23 23:53 [ Nimfagryuf ]: 06:49:887 (1) - 06:50:037 (3) looks bad
2016-01-23 23:54 [ Nimfagryuf ]: 06:51:087 (1) - 06:51:237 (3) same
2016-01-23 23:56 [ Nimfagryuf ]: 06:52:737 - try make it like that http://puu.sh/mH49E/b9ab543563.PNG
2016-01-23 23:56 [ Nimfagryuf ]: maybe from 2 to 3 a bit closer
2016-01-23 23:59 [ Nimfagryuf ]: 07:35:187 - fix that end of stream plz
2016-01-24 00:00 [ Nimfagryuf ]: 07:45:087 - make triangle :3
2016-01-24 00:00 [ Nimfagryuf ]: I think that's all
2016-01-24 00:10 [ Nimfagryuf ]: Good night!
Tassadar
alright lets roll
im lame and forgot the formatting stuff so w/e
also i'm bad with jump flow stuff so sorry but don't expect much from me on that end

green = nazi
blue = things i think that are kinda important
red = pretty important imo

in general:
od 8.1 is kinda weird, pretty easy to acc compared to other harder maps these days, perhaps go for somewhere between 8.4-9?
hp from 7 to 6-6.5 would be nice, hp7 is really high imo but it still works

you have a lot of spacing changes and turns, shapes in general, that look kinda ugly like this 01:48:162 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - it's not the biggest deal though, idk if some mappers will go nazi on this but yeah
it's fine imo if they're on strong beats or the music changes, but stuff like these 02:06:987 (5,6) - 02:08:487 (3,4) - don't make sense to me

i don't understand a lot about ncs, but a lot of them seem just out of place to me and at the wrong times, consider going over the ncs or getting someone to mod them all, sorry i'm just lazy
there's a lot of blank space where there's nothing in the music, personally i'd recommend adding small breaks (a few seconds) to the bigger ones but just my two cents, i commented on a few before generalizing this one
lots of sounds missed, i wasn't gonna put this in "in general" but i commented on it a lot. it's right at the end of streams in a lot before a slider or something, even though the sound continues onto the white tick you end it on a red tick and idk why

opening:
00:58:287 (2) - nc? and remove the one on the note before i guess, it's a new section in the music so i don't see why no nc here
01:01:437 (9,1) - straight stream for a while but sudden change in direction, it actually flows okay but looks a bit weird at this point in the music not important though
01:01:812 (5,1) - not this please, it's a sudden jerky movement, i talked about this before, you might just have missed this one i guess
general things about the opening:
1. streams are much less spaced compared to a lot of the other parts, idk why
2. in my opinion again you've missed a lot of sounds, stuff like 01:06:687 (1,2,3,4) - and especially the section 01:12:687 (1) - has a lot of 1/4 and it feels like it's underwhelming sometimes
overall though, it's pretty good, playable, flows fine mostly imo

first verse:
01:22:887 (1,2,3) - idk why you've gone for a triple here, i can't hear a 1/4 in the music, also wouldn't it make sense to follow the vocals in this part since there's only a couple of guitar sounds to map
01:23:637 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - kudos to you, the way you get eased into the stream is really cool
01:34:287 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - why map the spacing different? the sound is the exact same, variety is cool but you can change the shape and stuff instead
01:36:537 (7,1) - missing note in between, plus the sudden jerky movement backwards into and then back again into 3 kicksliders is pretty awkward to both play and read imo
01:48:537 (6,1) - another missing note, it's just that the player really doesn't expect it imo since the sound continues on and the movement afterwards isn't the best, i remember the first couple of times i played this i was like "wat"
01:57:987 (5,1) - break here? the hp is high soooo
general things about first verse:
just the stuff i mentioned in general, some of the spacings and stuff are weird, might be a problem later

first chorus:
02:14:487 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - shouldn't this be one stack/stream? (isn't there one note missing)
02:28:212 (4) - one tick later
02:32:112 (4,1) - ;-;
02:34:212 (12,1) - idk if this should connect into one curved stream, the sound changes between these two notes, maybe add kickslider or 1/4 slider or directional change somewhere? to reflect the change
02:48:537 (7,1) - missing note, should continue
general things about the first chorus:
N/A, it's pretty good

second verse:
02:56:937 (7,1) - same as in the first chorus, idk if the 3 sliders really work here, and it still feels like there's a missing note
02:58:887 (1,2,3,4) - i can't hitsound to save the life of me but whoa, also i'm not too sure on the flow, you go in the same direction then reverse it from 02:59:037 (2,3) - then same direction then reverse again
03:18:537 (9,1) - missing note again
03:27:237 (2,4) - why is this slider dragged out?
03:31:887 (1,2,3,4) - extremely undermapped, surely some 1/2 sliders and 1/2 notes would fit here
03:37:287 (9,1) - ^, not so bad but at least put a slider and stuff, it just feels like beats are being skipped tbh
general things about the second verse:
some of the same problems of the first verse, just less directional and flow stuff and more on missing beats and stuff, still cool

second chorus:
03:42:087 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - same thing
03:46:887 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - ^
03:54:537 (8,1) - note mia
04:09:837 (3,4) - ^
04:21:087 (1,1) - break please
general things about the second chorus:
you mapped from 03:49:287 (1) - very different from the other one, even though a lot of it (not all, but a lot) is basically the same sounding, again variety is nice, but you've mapped a lot of 1/2 where there's a lot of 1/4 - which is what you mapped in the first one. consider remapping some parts which are extremely different, it should by no means be identical or even that similar but not really sure if this works, there's a chance i'm just being an ass but it's just mapping completely different timing signatures to different sounds is weird

pre-solo (before preview point):
05:12:687 (2,1,2,3) - correct me if i'm wrong but i'm certain this should be 1/3 not 1/4
05:20:487 (1,2,3,4,5) - spacing is lower than all the triples, making it flow slightly awkwardly, not really a big deal but it's an easy fix (increasing spacing to equal that of the triples)
05:23:487 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - 1/3 again
general things about the pre-solo:
just a couple of timing things, not an issue, not really an interesting part in the map nor in the song itself so not really anything to say

solo:
05:30:612 (3,1) - less awkward, but the first slider should be on the stream imo
05:37:737 (7,1) - i feel like there should be a note in between, but it's kinda nice having a slight break before a super long spaced stream so idk
05:40:287 (1) - i don't like this at all since it's on a really strong beat so should be a stream imo, if you want to not make it hard(er) then you could add a kickslider or 1/4 sliderjump before maybe, or just make it one long stream which wouldn't be that much harder. alternatively you could extend the length so it ends on the blue tick - so the stream starts again on a white tick. just please not a stream starting on a blue tick, that would be completely fine, but change it to either or please
05:41:337 (7,1) - feels like another missing note? also the 1 should be a note not a slider, there's nothing that distinguishes it from the other two notes after it and not any 1/4 sound i'm pretty sure, it still works though
05:46:287 (1,2,3,4) - undermapped imo, add some sliders and/or notes again so it feels more intense, it's in the middle of the solo, there's a 1/2 sound so it fits
06:11:487 (1,2,3,4,5) - the spacing is pretty different from the previous set, even though the sound is the same
general things about the solo:
stuff like this 05:56:487 (1,2) - is the same length as 1/4, yet it's 1/2, this is really misleading, it recurs quite a lot
a heck of a lot of sounds you missed, i pointed a lot out but there's more i think

i put those red because those are the only real problems with the solo imo, but they occur throughout the entire solo
there's also that one long stream with a lot of weird directional changes sooo
also one more thing, early on there's a lot of hitsounds on every 1/1 beat, but the guitar goes 1-2-3-4-5-6 1-2-3-4-5-6 1-2-3-4 so it feels kind of out of sync with the solo, consider changing the positions of them

third chorus:
07:03:687 (1) - where is the break before this? the others were doable without, but this definitely needs a break imo
07:20:937 (7,1) - just another missing note
07:21:837 (4,5) - maybe swap these around? change position and shape ofc, i just feel that the 4 is a stronger beat than the start of 5 whereas the end of 5 is a stronger beat than the start
07:28:287 (1) - spinner/break before (and probably after) this again please
in general about third chorus:
breaks, that's it, otherwise pretty standard and cool

i'm not a hitsound guy as well as a jump flow/nc guy, so you might want to get some of those checked
also sorry for a long bad mod, i picked out a lot of stuff that probably doesn't matter but w/e, hope this was helpful
honestly this map is really really fun, good luck getting it ranked!
Topic Starter
SD CARD

Tassadar wrote:

alright lets roll
im lame and forgot the formatting stuff so w/e
also i'm bad with jump flow stuff so sorry but don't expect much from me on that end

green = nazi
blue = things i think that are kinda important
red = pretty important imo

in general:
od 8.1 is kinda weird, pretty easy to acc compared to other harder maps these days, perhaps go for somewhere between 8.4-9?
hp from 7 to 6-6.5 would be nice, hp7 is really high imo but it still works

you have a lot of spacing changes and turns, shapes in general, that look kinda ugly like this 01:48:162 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - it's not the biggest deal though, idk if some mappers will go nazi on this but yeah
it's fine imo if they're on strong beats or the music changes, but stuff like these 02:06:987 (5,6) - 02:08:487 (3,4) - don't make sense to me

i don't understand a lot about ncs, but a lot of them seem just out of place to me and at the wrong times, consider going over the ncs or getting someone to mod them all, sorry i'm just lazy
there's a lot of blank space where there's nothing in the music, personally i'd recommend adding small breaks (a few seconds) to the bigger ones but just my two cents, i commented on a few before generalizing this one
lots of sounds missed, i wasn't gonna put this in "in general" but i commented on it a lot. it's right at the end of streams in a lot before a slider or something, even though the sound continues onto the white tick you end it on a red tick and idk why

opening:
00:58:287 (2) - nc? and remove the one on the note before i guess, it's a new section in the music so i don't see why no nc here
01:01:437 (9,1) - straight stream for a while but sudden change in direction, it actually flows okay but looks a bit weird at this point in the music not important though
01:01:812 (5,1) - not this please, it's a sudden jerky movement, i talked about this before, you might just have missed this one i guess
general things about the opening:
1. streams are much less spaced compared to a lot of the other parts, idk why
2. in my opinion again you've missed a lot of sounds, stuff like 01:06:687 (1,2,3,4) - and especially the section 01:12:687 (1) - has a lot of 1/4 and it feels like it's underwhelming sometimes
overall though, it's pretty good, playable, flows fine mostly imo

first verse:
01:22:887 (1,2,3) - idk why you've gone for a triple here, i can't hear a 1/4 in the music, also wouldn't it make sense to follow the vocals in this part since there's only a couple of guitar sounds to map
01:23:637 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - kudos to you, the way you get eased into the stream is really cool
01:34:287 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - why map the spacing different? the sound is the exact same, variety is cool but you can change the shape and stuff instead
01:36:537 (7,1) - missing note in between, plus the sudden jerky movement backwards into and then back again into 3 kicksliders is pretty awkward to both play and read imo
01:48:537 (6,1) - another missing note, it's just that the player really doesn't expect it imo since the sound continues on and the movement afterwards isn't the best, i remember the first couple of times i played this i was like "wat"
01:57:987 (5,1) - break here? the hp is high soooo
general things about first verse:
just the stuff i mentioned in general, some of the spacings and stuff are weird, might be a problem later

first chorus:
02:14:487 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - shouldn't this be one stack/stream? (isn't there one note missing)
02:28:212 (4) - one tick later
02:32:112 (4,1) - ;-;
02:34:212 (12,1) - idk if this should connect into one curved stream, the sound changes between these two notes, maybe add kickslider or 1/4 slider or directional change somewhere? to reflect the change
02:48:537 (7,1) - missing note, should continue
general things about the first chorus:
N/A, it's pretty good

second verse:
02:56:937 (7,1) - same as in the first chorus, idk if the 3 sliders really work here, and it still feels like there's a missing note
02:58:887 (1,2,3,4) - i can't hitsound to save the life of me but whoa, also i'm not too sure on the flow, you go in the same direction then reverse it from 02:59:037 (2,3) - then same direction then reverse again
03:18:537 (9,1) - missing note again
03:27:237 (2,4) - why is this slider dragged out?
03:31:887 (1,2,3,4) - extremely undermapped, surely some 1/2 sliders and 1/2 notes would fit here
03:37:287 (9,1) - ^, not so bad but at least put a slider and stuff, it just feels like beats are being skipped tbh
general things about the second verse:
some of the same problems of the first verse, just less directional and flow stuff and more on missing beats and stuff, still cool

second chorus:
03:42:087 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - same thing
03:46:887 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - ^
03:54:537 (8,1) - note mia
04:09:837 (3,4) - ^
04:21:087 (1,1) - break please
general things about the second chorus:
you mapped from 03:49:287 (1) - very different from the other one, even though a lot of it (not all, but a lot) is basically the same sounding, again variety is nice, but you've mapped a lot of 1/2 where there's a lot of 1/4 - which is what you mapped in the first one. consider remapping some parts which are extremely different, it should by no means be identical or even that similar but not really sure if this works, there's a chance i'm just being an ass but it's just mapping completely different timing signatures to different sounds is weird

pre-solo (before preview point):
05:12:687 (2,1,2,3) - correct me if i'm wrong but i'm certain this should be 1/3 not 1/4
05:20:487 (1,2,3,4,5) - spacing is lower than all the triples, making it flow slightly awkwardly, not really a big deal but it's an easy fix (increasing spacing to equal that of the triples)
05:23:487 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - 1/3 again
general things about the pre-solo:
just a couple of timing things, not an issue, not really an interesting part in the map nor in the song itself so not really anything to say

solo:
05:30:612 (3,1) - less awkward, but the first slider should be on the stream imo
05:37:737 (7,1) - i feel like there should be a note in between, but it's kinda nice having a slight break before a super long spaced stream so idk
05:40:287 (1) - i don't like this at all since it's on a really strong beat so should be a stream imo, if you want to not make it hard(er) then you could add a kickslider or 1/4 sliderjump before maybe, or just make it one long stream which wouldn't be that much harder. alternatively you could extend the length so it ends on the blue tick - so the stream starts again on a white tick. just please not a stream starting on a blue tick, that would be completely fine, but change it to either or please
05:41:337 (7,1) - feels like another missing note? also the 1 should be a note not a slider, there's nothing that distinguishes it from the other two notes after it and not any 1/4 sound i'm pretty sure, it still works though
05:46:287 (1,2,3,4) - undermapped imo, add some sliders and/or notes again so it feels more intense, it's in the middle of the solo, there's a 1/2 sound so it fits
06:11:487 (1,2,3,4,5) - the spacing is pretty different from the previous set, even though the sound is the same
general things about the solo:
stuff like this 05:56:487 (1,2) - is the same length as 1/4, yet it's 1/2, this is really misleading, it recurs quite a lot
a heck of a lot of sounds you missed, i pointed a lot out but there's more i think

i put those red because those are the only real problems with the solo imo, but they occur throughout the entire solo
there's also that one long stream with a lot of weird directional changes sooo
also one more thing, early on there's a lot of hitsounds on every 1/1 beat, but the guitar goes 1-2-3-4-5-6 1-2-3-4-5-6 1-2-3-4 so it feels kind of out of sync with the solo, consider changing the positions of them

third chorus:
07:03:687 (1) - where is the break before this? the others were doable without, but this definitely needs a break imo
07:20:937 (7,1) - just another missing note
07:21:837 (4,5) - maybe swap these around? change position and shape ofc, i just feel that the 4 is a stronger beat than the start of 5 whereas the end of 5 is a stronger beat than the start
07:28:287 (1) - spinner/break before (and probably after) this again please
in general about third chorus:
breaks, that's it, otherwise pretty standard and cool

i'm not a hitsound guy as well as a jump flow/nc guy, so you might want to get some of those checked
also sorry for a long bad mod, i picked out a lot of stuff that probably doesn't matter but w/e, hope this was helpful
honestly this map is really really fun, good luck getting it ranked!
Thanks man. I'm not home for about 2 months, so applying this mod will take some time but i will do it asap on my laptop when i have the time.
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