そして私はあなたに尋ねる、それらを返す。 私を含め何人かが、1/8ダブレットの存在のために実質的な証拠を与えました。 SkylishとRaidenはここで間違いがあります。 あなたはそれらの1/8ダブレットなしManieraをランク付けした場合には、マッパーとして、そして太鼓コミュニティにあなたに大きな害になります！_yu68 wrote:
_yu68 wrote:
update: added 1/8 doublets at 00:36:423 - and 00:36:568 - based on some people's post.deleted it by raiden's veto
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Topic Starter
I'm understanding it.[ Eon Fox ] wrote:
そして私はあなたに尋ねる、それらを返す。 私を含め何人かが、1/8ダブレットの存在のために実質的な証拠を与えました。 SkylishとRaidenはここで間違いがあります。 あなたはそれらの1/8ダブレットなしManieraをランク付けした場合には、マッパーとして、そして太鼓コミュニティにあなたに大きな害になります！
However, in order to re-add 1/8 doublets, I need to find a nominator who agree it.
No change for now. Sorry.
私はSuronoやTatsukeがそれを指名してくれると喜んでいると確信しています。 どちらもBNであり、どちらもVirtuosoのようであり、両方ともRaidenよりも説得しやすい。 私はTatsukeをお勧めします。彼は1/8ダブレットの決定をサポートしているだけでなく、マップも好きです。_yu68 wrote:
I'm understanding it.[ Eon Fox ] wrote:
そして私はあなたに尋ねる、それらを返す。 私を含め何人かが、1/8ダブレットの存在のために実質的な証拠を与えました。 SkylishとRaidenはここで間違いがあります。 あなたはそれらの1/8ダブレットなしManieraをランク付けした場合には、マッパーとして、そして太鼓コミュニティにあなたに大きな害になります！
However, in order to re-add 1/8 doublets, I need to find a nominator who agree it.
No change for now. Sorry.
Topic Starter
I guess they don't have time to recheck it.[ Eon Fox ] wrote:
私はSuronoやTatsukeがそれを指名してくれると喜んでいると確信しています。 どちらもBNであり、どちらもVirtuosoのようであり、両方ともRaidenよりも説得しやすい。 私はTatsukeをお勧めします。彼は1/8ダブレットの決定をサポートしているだけでなく、マップも好きです。
I have no idea how the modders/ passers-by check my previous mods, but probably they get the wrong idea all the time, smh.
If yu thinks that 1/8 doublets starting on the on-beat is smoother and sounds better, then just do that. However it does not affect a single word in my suggestion, I am okay with yu's new arrangement once he can explain the rationale behind. (and he did it for several times already I guess, including the one with Raiden's)
Still, asking for someone who suggest concrete ideas to shut up and go away is kinda ignorant and dumb. Making any unnecessary personal attack does not help the map at all, unless you think neglect any impt suggestions is a good deed.
From now one, good luck on the ranking process. 頑張ります！
If yu thinks that 1/8 doublets starting on the on-beat is smoother and sounds better, then just do that. However it does not affect a single word in my suggestion, I am okay with yu's new arrangement once he can explain the rationale behind. (and he did it for several times already I guess, including the one with Raiden's)
Still, asking for someone who suggest concrete ideas to shut up and go away is kinda ignorant and dumb. Making any unnecessary personal attack does not help the map at all, unless you think neglect any impt suggestions is a good deed.
From now one, good luck on the ranking process. 頑張ります！
is this the end of drama?
please be it...
please be it...
When I play Virtuoso first time, I was thinking what yumuya emphasized grace notes with. I thought it would be finisher, 1/4 stream or just 1/2 snapped notes. I saw 1/8 doublets and said "Oh my god.If the mapper was me, I would not think to map here like that". They fit perfectly and create clear structure. If there were finishers, 1/4 or 1/2 snapped notes, it would not fit at all. People criticized this part because they thought it was for free pp. That's why there was heated discussion. So can you guys give suggestion which will IMPROVE the map (the map doesn't need modding or suggestion now,too late lol)? When you try to find another ways instead of 1/8 doublets due to "free pp", it's getting more ridiculous.
Well,I did not write it to insult anyone or imply anything. I just wanted to write it to relax, because it will get more complex if you guys continue finding mistakes stubbornly.Anyway,good luck yumuya!
Well,I did not write it to insult anyone or imply anything. I just wanted to write it to relax, because it will get more complex if you guys continue finding mistakes stubbornly.Anyway,good luck yumuya!
no changeNardoxyribonucleic wrote:
- [Mrriichi's Inner Oni]
You may call me back after that~
- 00:02:061 - I think you need to lower the hitsound volume to about 45% so that the soft background beats would not be overemphasized.
- 00:02:782 - you may add a green line here with 90% volume for the drums.
no change because same reason as this
私はTasukeと話しただけで、彼は1/8ダブレットが返されたら彼がマップを指名する意思があると述べた。_yu68 wrote:
I guess they don't have time to recheck it.[ Eon Fox ] wrote:
私はSuronoやTatsukeがそれを指名してくれると喜んでいると確信しています。 どちらもBNであり、どちらもVirtuosoのようであり、両方ともRaidenよりも説得しやすい。 私はTatsukeをお勧めします。彼は1/8ダブレットの決定をサポートしているだけでなく、マップも好きです。
Kantan
00:49:368 (72,73) - Concurrent object, fix please. W
00:49:368 (72,73) - Concurrent object, fix please. W
Topic Starter
fixed.yuzu__rinrin wrote:
Kantan
00:49:368 (72,73) - Concurrent object, fix please. W
sorry for doing that ;_;yuzu__rinrin wrote:
Kantan
00:49:368 (72,73) - Concurrent object, fix please. W
thanks _yu68 for fixing it
Yeh I have time but not really interest too since this is a mapset, thought is this hell discussion are about pp 1/8 pattern? even Im fine with that lol really, maziari quote gg "Taiko is a rhythm game, not a sequencer imo.". well I let those people who are good at checking spread/rest section density each lower diffs because I saw in discord bns/qat discussion are mostly about patterning/structure with rhythmical or spread issues i guess, if I checking this yeah I will took many time to do it and I had my own interest for other maps tho
good luck with the ranking process and people who are support this map!
good luck with the ranking process and people who are support this map!
Rechecked everything let's go ahead already
Topic Starter
Thank you!Arrival wrote:
Rechecked everything let's go ahead already
I'm waiting for the answer to my question from Nardo. (About whether notes can be added to 00:36:423 - and 00:36:568 - )
Please leave that to me. I will recheck it as soon as possible._yu68 wrote:
I'm waiting for the answer to my question from Nardo. (About whether notes can be added to 00:36:423 - and 00:36:568 - )
HYPE
Hi, yumuya~
Please note that this is only my suggestion, so feel free to deny them.
Take this one not seriously, like friendly modding~
This is only my curiosity.
[Vulkin's Kantan]
00:17:060 - I'm afraid that this pitch is not strong enough to use D , or at least maybe it's same pitch as 00:21:676
00:24:560 - Change to d might be better, to make a difference between this note and 00:23:984
00:39:272 - Very strong pitch here, how about add D here?
01:06:098 - Hmmm, how about k , to make a difference between this note and 01:05:521
01:11:002 - How about change to d to match somethings you've do it before as 00:20:810
01:11:290 - Change to K , same reason above.
01:15:040 (19,20) - Change to k might be better, to emphasize the pitch here.
[Futsuu]
00:04:945 - How about delete this? Almost voiceless to make the beginner player understand this rhythm.
00:13:022 - Delete, similar reason to 00:14:464. Or if keep 00:13:022, please consider to add note on 00:14:464. To prevent player confuse the rhythm here.
00:39:272 - Same suggestion on Kantan , strong pitch here, how about add D here? maybe it's same reason why you add note here like 00:32:060 (maybe?)
00:41:724 - I love this one too, but how about we follow the piano pitch instead. Like this?
I find that this will be better, and which it's help to make we able to emphasize the piano here 00:43:310 and player will not confuse about it.
00:46:339 - Same :3
00:49:945 - How about d? , might be fitter.
[Virtuoso]
00:04:296 - How about delete this note to emphasize 00:04:368. To match the thing that you've emphasize the similar pitch as 00:06:099
00:04:368 - If follow my upper suggestion, then change this to D might me better.
00:05:450 - In my opinion, this one to o. Same reason above as to emphasize the pitch like 00:05:522
00:29:609 - How about add note here? Still have a pitch here.
00:29:825 - How about add d here? Due to this pitch have a drag voice.
00:30:618 - Shouldn't be d here? To make a difference between this note and 00:30:762. Because pitch on 00:30:762 have a piano pitch while 00:30:618 have not any piano pitch.
00:33:106 - For now, delete this note in case of 00:36:423 / 00:36:568 which it have similar pitch and it have been deleted too. I think that this point is a great example to discuss on the 00:36:423 / 00:36:568. And if you consider to add note back on 00:36:423 / 00:36:568 Please consider it again to add this back.
00:34:260 - How about make this doublet too? In my opinion. Because for me, I think that it's have something same on 00:34:404
00:36:423 / 00:36:568 - This is only my opinion. I didn't consider about pp on this part. I consider by how rhythm deserve to place note in which way. Since the pitch of the piano going down and this pitch is the lowest pitch. So If I were you. I'll have 2 choices in my mind.
1. Add note here, for the inner while playing, since I've test to play this map too, I'm very confuse why these isn't a doublet as others. If we consider to map this for the fun and for the inner while playing. Add it back might be good!
2. Keep, in case of this pitch isn't give a way in 1/8 that much. It's almost voiceless enough to not use 1/8 here.
Please wait for Nardo's answer might be the best choice. I'm not the experience mapper. ;;w;;
I hope this will be help even a little.
Good luck for ranked~
Please note that this is only my suggestion, so feel free to deny them.
Take this one not seriously, like friendly modding~
This is only my curiosity.
[Vulkin's Kantan]
00:17:060 - I'm afraid that this pitch is not strong enough to use D , or at least maybe it's same pitch as 00:21:676
00:24:560 - Change to d might be better, to make a difference between this note and 00:23:984
00:39:272 - Very strong pitch here, how about add D here?
01:06:098 - Hmmm, how about k , to make a difference between this note and 01:05:521
01:11:002 - How about change to d to match somethings you've do it before as 00:20:810
01:11:290 - Change to K , same reason above.
01:15:040 (19,20) - Change to k might be better, to emphasize the pitch here.
[Futsuu]
00:04:945 - How about delete this? Almost voiceless to make the beginner player understand this rhythm.
00:13:022 - Delete, similar reason to 00:14:464. Or if keep 00:13:022, please consider to add note on 00:14:464. To prevent player confuse the rhythm here.
00:39:272 - Same suggestion on Kantan , strong pitch here, how about add D here? maybe it's same reason why you add note here like 00:32:060 (maybe?)
00:41:724 - I love this one too, but how about we follow the piano pitch instead. Like this?
I find that this will be better, and which it's help to make we able to emphasize the piano here 00:43:310 and player will not confuse about it.
00:46:339 - Same :3
00:49:945 - How about d? , might be fitter.
[Virtuoso]
00:04:296 - How about delete this note to emphasize 00:04:368. To match the thing that you've emphasize the similar pitch as 00:06:099
00:04:368 - If follow my upper suggestion, then change this to D might me better.
00:05:450 - In my opinion, this one to o. Same reason above as to emphasize the pitch like 00:05:522
00:29:609 - How about add note here? Still have a pitch here.
00:29:825 - How about add d here? Due to this pitch have a drag voice.
00:30:618 - Shouldn't be d here? To make a difference between this note and 00:30:762. Because pitch on 00:30:762 have a piano pitch while 00:30:618 have not any piano pitch.
00:33:106 - For now, delete this note in case of 00:36:423 / 00:36:568 which it have similar pitch and it have been deleted too. I think that this point is a great example to discuss on the 00:36:423 / 00:36:568. And if you consider to add note back on 00:36:423 / 00:36:568 Please consider it again to add this back.
00:34:260 - How about make this doublet too? In my opinion. Because for me, I think that it's have something same on 00:34:404
00:36:423 / 00:36:568 - This is only my opinion. I didn't consider about pp on this part. I consider by how rhythm deserve to place note in which way. Since the pitch of the piano going down and this pitch is the lowest pitch. So If I were you. I'll have 2 choices in my mind.
1. Add note here, for the inner while playing, since I've test to play this map too, I'm very confuse why these isn't a doublet as others. If we consider to map this for the fun and for the inner while playing. Add it back might be good!
2. Keep, in case of this pitch isn't give a way in 1/8 that much. It's almost voiceless enough to not use 1/8 here.
Please wait for Nardo's answer might be the best choice. I'm not the experience mapper. ;;w;;
I hope this will be help even a little.
Good luck for ranked~
Topic Starter
Thank you for moddingTyistiana wrote:
Hi, yumuya~
Please note that this is only my suggestion, so feel free to deny them.
Take this one not seriously, like friendly modding~
This is only my curiosity.
[Futsuu]
00:04:945 - How about delete this? Almost voiceless to make the beginner player understand this rhythm.
00:13:022 - Delete, similar reason to 00:14:464. Or if keep 00:13:022, please consider to add note on 00:14:464. To prevent player confuse the rhythm here.
00:39:272 - Same suggestion on Kantan , strong pitch here, how about add D here? maybe it's same reason why you add note here like 00:32:060 (maybe?)
00:41:724 - I love this one too, but how about we follow the piano pitch instead. Like this?
I find that this will be better, and which it's help to make we able to emphasize the piano here 00:43:310 and player will not confuse about it.
00:46:339 - Same :3
00:49:945 - How about d? , might be fitter.
[Virtuoso]
00:04:296 - How about delete this note to emphasize 00:04:368. To match the thing that you've emphasize the similar pitch as 00:06:099
00:04:368 - If follow my upper suggestion, then change this to D might me better.
00:05:450 - In my opinion, this one to o. Same reason above as to emphasize the pitch like 00:05:522
00:29:609 - How about add note here? Still have a pitch here.
00:29:825 - How about add d here? Due to this pitch have a drag voice.
00:30:618 - Shouldn't be d here? To make a difference between this note and 00:30:762. Because pitch on 00:30:762 have a piano pitch while 00:30:618 have not any piano pitch.
00:33:106 - For now, delete this note in case of 00:36:423 / 00:36:568 which it have similar pitch and it have been deleted too. I think that this point is a great example to discuss on the 00:36:423 / 00:36:568. And if you consider to add note back on 00:36:423 / 00:36:568 Please consider it again to add this back.
00:34:260 - How about make this doublet too? In my opinion. Because for me, I think that it's have something same on 00:34:404
00:36:423 / 00:36:568 - This is only my opinion. I didn't consider about pp on this part. I consider by how rhythm deserve to place note in which way. Since the pitch of the piano going down and this pitch is the lowest pitch. So If I were you. I'll have 2 choices in my mind.
1. Add note here, for the inner while playing, since I've test to play this map too, I'm very confuse why these isn't a doublet as others. If we consider to map this for the fun and for the inner while playing. Add it back might be good!
2. Keep, in case of this pitch isn't give a way in 1/8 that much. It's almost voiceless enough to not use 1/8 here.
Please wait for Nardo's answer might be the best choice. I'm not the experience mapper. ;;w;;
I hope this will be help even a little.
Good luck for ranked~
Thanks for mod!Tyistiana wrote:
Hi, yumuya~
Please note that this is only my suggestion, so feel free to deny them.
Take this one not seriously, like friendly modding~
This is only my curiosity.
[Vulkin's Kantan]
00:17:060 - I'm afraid that this pitch is not strong enough to use D , or at least maybe it's same pitch as 00:21:676 was following the cymbal
00:24:560 - Change to d might be better, to make a difference between this note and 00:23:984 tried to make it different from 00:19:368 - , but ill make 00:23:985 (29) - d so theres still difference
00:39:272 - Very strong pitch here, how about add D here? added it, but removed 00:38:695 -, dont want crowded notes (took me like 20 minutes to decide how to do it LOL)
01:06:098 - Hmmm, how about k , to make a difference between this note and 01:05:521 wanted to contrast the pitch of 01:06:098 (4) - and 01:06:675 (5) - , as its larger than 01:05:521 (3) - and 01:06:098 (4) - imo
01:11:002 - How about change to d to match somethings you've do it before as 00:20:810 Done ^^
01:11:290 - Change to K , same reason above. ^
01:15:040 (19,20) - Change to k might be better, to emphasize the pitch here. 01:15:039 (19) - changed to k, so next note has some consistency with the d K d K pattern im trying to use
I hope this will be help even a little. it did help ^^ thanks!
Good luck for ranked~
did some changes on my own (added a few finishers)
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@maziari: Your explanations of 1/6 usage at 00:25:570 (193,194,195,196) and 01:10:713 (538,539,540,541,542,543,544,545,546) - are not really convincing as there are no 1/6 sounds at all to support those notes. As only distinct 1/4 sounds can be heard in the background, please reconsider changing them to 1/4 patterns or something else.
@yu: Concerning your question, I have an idea that you may consider as an alternative suggestion of pattern arrangement. Since the stress sounds occur at 00:34:368 - 00:35:522 - 00:36:676 - 00:37:253 - , you may rearrange the 1/8 sequence by moving 00:35:414 (330) to 00:36:423 - so the more stress-intensive part at 00:36:676 - could be emphasized and the overall structure from 00:34:368 to 00:36:676 - would be more organized compared to the current state.
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@yu: Concerning your question, I have an idea that you may consider as an alternative suggestion of pattern arrangement. Since the stress sounds occur at 00:34:368 - 00:35:522 - 00:36:676 - 00:37:253 - , you may rearrange the 1/8 sequence by moving 00:35:414 (330) to 00:36:423 - so the more stress-intensive part at 00:36:676 - could be emphasized and the overall structure from 00:34:368 to 00:36:676 - would be more organized compared to the current state.
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Topic Starter
It's a good idea to emphasize stress sounds. However, in this way, if players hit by using their hands alternately, the hand hitting 00:34:368 - and the hand hitting 00:35:522 - would be opposite. This is very difficult for part of players imo. Since 1/8 are a very unique arrangement, I want to be able to play it as easily as possible.Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:
@yu: Concerning your question, I have an idea that you may consider as an alternative suggestion of pattern arrangement. Since the stress sounds occur at 00:34:368 - 00:35:522 - 00:36:676 - 00:37:253 - , you may rearrange the 1/8 sequence by moving 00:35:414 (330) to 00:36:423 - so the more stress-intensive part at 00:36:676 - could be emphasized and the overall structure from 00:34:368 to 00:36:676 - would be more organized compared to the current state.
In the way of deleting 00:35:270 - and 00:35:414 - , it can't show enough the distinctive sounds. For consistency, ease of playing, and matching the song, I want to add the notes.
Edit: Fixed forgetting to write time-code.
Former: It's undesirable because the feeling of piano is diminished,but I moved 1/6 to the place where the sound is ringing.Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:
@maziari: Your explanations of 1/6 usage at 00:25:570 (193,194,195,196) and 01:10:713 (538,539,540,541,542,543,544,545,546) - are not really convincing as there are no 1/6 sounds at all to support those notes. As only distinct 1/4 sounds can be heard in the background, please reconsider changing them to 1/4 patterns or something else.
Also, I adjusted 00:49:657: to the background sound.
Latter: It certainly isn't a 1/6, but also it isn't even a 1/4. The tom's sound ringing here is like a roll, so 1/4 can't express it.
Since there is no way to express accurately, I chose 1/6. If I fill this in 1/4, it'll become flat and a boring map.
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Had some discussions with yumuya in the game. Log as stated below.
IRC check with _yu68, Sep 8, 2017
19:37 _yu68: Hello :3
19:37 Nardoxyribonucleic: Hi :3
19:38 *Nardoxyribonucleic is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/871924 D(ABE3) - MANIERA]
19:40 Nardoxyribonucleic: First of all, I still think maziari's use of 1/6 at 01:10:713 (539,540,541,542,543,544,545,546,547) - is not very appropriate, but well I'm going to be a bit lenient about it now
19:44 _yu68: I think the 1/6 is showing drum roll well
19:47 Nardoxyribonucleic: Main drum beats falls on 1/4 while there is an extra beat at 01:11:110 -
19:47 Nardoxyribonucleic: That is why I would suggest 1/4
19:47 Nardoxyribonucleic: The rolls are not even snapped in 1/6
19:48 Nardoxyribonucleic: I would not suggest mapping that extra beat as the snaps would be too irregular to follow
19:49 Nardoxyribonucleic: Yet 1/6 would not be the best choice here, that is my stance
19:49 Nardoxyribonucleic: But well as I said, I'm more lenient about this pattern now.
19:50 Nardoxyribonucleic: So maziari may keep that in case he still strongly insists
19:51 _yu68: I see
19:52 Nardoxyribonucleic: Then about Virtuoso
19:53 Nardoxyribonucleic: What was the 1/8 pattern arrangement agreed by Raiden upon his bubble?
19:53 Nardoxyribonucleic: i.e. [https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/6021558 this post]
19:57 Nardoxyribonucleic: I need to take that as reference to make comparison
19:58 _yu68: tasuke had said that he can qualify
19:58 Nardoxyribonucleic: He agreed with the current version or?
19:59 Nardoxyribonucleic: Agreed with adding 00:36:423 - 00:36:568 - d
19:59 Nardoxyribonucleic: which one?
19:59 _yu68: yes
19:59 _yu68: Absolutely impossible to ignore raiden's veto?
20:00 Nardoxyribonucleic: You need two other nominators' override
20:01 _yu68: It's Arrival and tasuke
20:02 Nardoxyribonucleic: So both of them agreed with the current version?
20:02 _yu68: Probably
20:03 _yu68: The map has not changed much since they agreed
20:03 _yu68: p/6126340
20:03 _yu68: and,
20:04 _yu68: https://twitter.com/tasuke912/status/877143037066878977
20:04 _yu68: tasuke is saying "If there is no one who QFs MANIERA, I can do it."
20:06 Nardoxyribonucleic: Okay. Before letting you guys move on, one more question.
20:09 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:35:270 (328,330) - these two are actually similar spots with 00:36:423 - 00:36:568 - . I would like to know the reason of the difference, like why not using at 00:35:234 - and 00:35:378 - as well
20:10 Nardoxyribonucleic: I mean the use of 1/2
20:12 _yu68: as I said in forum, I mapped as 1/8 to make ease of hitting.
20:16 _yu68: ah
20:16 Nardoxyribonucleic: ?
20:17 _yu68: means "why am I using 1/2 there"?
20:17 Nardoxyribonucleic: I was asking why the representations at 00:35:234 (327,328,329,330) - and 00:36:387 (343,344) - are different
20:18 Nardoxyribonucleic: Like, why don't you use 1/2 at the former pair as well
20:22 _yu68: I deleted some 1/8s by raiden's veto, but I can't explain the difference in representations caused by them. I'm sorry
20:22 _yu68: They were the same 1/8 in the older version
20:24 Nardoxyribonucleic: I see. I wondered about the difference because structure-wise, deleting 00:35:270 (328,330) - as well would be more coherent.
20:25 Nardoxyribonucleic: And you talked about hand alternation previously, so I'm mentioning this now
20:26 _yu68: I guess that 1/8 and 1/2 confuse would make players confused
20:28 Nardoxyribonucleic: Hmm so, you think that 14 pairs of 1/8 are better than 6-2-6-2?
20:30 _yu68: I think that it is easy to decide how to hit, although the density is high
20:33 Nardoxyribonucleic: Alright. You may ask Arrival for rebubble and tasuke to requalify then.
20:33 _yu68: Could I add 1/8 to 00:36:423 - and 00:36:568 - ?
20:37 Nardoxyribonucleic: That is why I asked about the inconsistencies lol
20:38 _yu68: Thanks, and I apologize for my verrrrry poor English._.
20:38 Nardoxyribonucleic: Considering the factor of full alternation together, you have two choices of pattern: Either delete 00:35:270 (328,330) - or add 00:36:423 - 00:36:568 -
20:39 Nardoxyribonucleic: So I think you may choose between these two options regarding pattern consistency
20:40 _yu68: I understand.
20:41 Nardoxyribonucleic: Hmm, so you preferred the latter
20:41 _yu68: chose the later and updated the map
20:42 Nardoxyribonucleic: I guess that is all from my side at the moment. You may ask Arrival and tasuke now.
20:43 _yu68: Thanks so much :3
19:37 Nardoxyribonucleic: Hi :3
19:38 *Nardoxyribonucleic is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/871924 D(ABE3) - MANIERA]
19:40 Nardoxyribonucleic: First of all, I still think maziari's use of 1/6 at 01:10:713 (539,540,541,542,543,544,545,546,547) - is not very appropriate, but well I'm going to be a bit lenient about it now
19:44 _yu68: I think the 1/6 is showing drum roll well
19:47 Nardoxyribonucleic: Main drum beats falls on 1/4 while there is an extra beat at 01:11:110 -
19:47 Nardoxyribonucleic: That is why I would suggest 1/4
19:47 Nardoxyribonucleic: The rolls are not even snapped in 1/6
19:48 Nardoxyribonucleic: I would not suggest mapping that extra beat as the snaps would be too irregular to follow
19:49 Nardoxyribonucleic: Yet 1/6 would not be the best choice here, that is my stance
19:49 Nardoxyribonucleic: But well as I said, I'm more lenient about this pattern now.
19:50 Nardoxyribonucleic: So maziari may keep that in case he still strongly insists
19:51 _yu68: I see
19:52 Nardoxyribonucleic: Then about Virtuoso
19:53 Nardoxyribonucleic: What was the 1/8 pattern arrangement agreed by Raiden upon his bubble?
19:53 Nardoxyribonucleic: i.e. [https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/6021558 this post]
19:57 Nardoxyribonucleic: I need to take that as reference to make comparison
19:58 _yu68: tasuke had said that he can qualify
19:58 Nardoxyribonucleic: He agreed with the current version or?
19:59 Nardoxyribonucleic: Agreed with adding 00:36:423 - 00:36:568 - d
19:59 Nardoxyribonucleic: which one?
19:59 _yu68: yes
19:59 _yu68: Absolutely impossible to ignore raiden's veto?
20:00 Nardoxyribonucleic: You need two other nominators' override
20:01 _yu68: It's Arrival and tasuke
20:02 Nardoxyribonucleic: So both of them agreed with the current version?
20:02 _yu68: Probably
20:03 _yu68: The map has not changed much since they agreed
20:03 _yu68: p/6126340
20:03 _yu68: and,
20:04 _yu68: https://twitter.com/tasuke912/status/877143037066878977
20:04 _yu68: tasuke is saying "If there is no one who QFs MANIERA, I can do it."
20:06 Nardoxyribonucleic: Okay. Before letting you guys move on, one more question.
20:09 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:35:270 (328,330) - these two are actually similar spots with 00:36:423 - 00:36:568 - . I would like to know the reason of the difference, like why not using at 00:35:234 - and 00:35:378 - as well
20:10 Nardoxyribonucleic: I mean the use of 1/2
20:12 _yu68: as I said in forum, I mapped as 1/8 to make ease of hitting.
20:16 _yu68: ah
20:16 Nardoxyribonucleic: ?
20:17 _yu68: means "why am I using 1/2 there"?
20:17 Nardoxyribonucleic: I was asking why the representations at 00:35:234 (327,328,329,330) - and 00:36:387 (343,344) - are different
20:18 Nardoxyribonucleic: Like, why don't you use 1/2 at the former pair as well
20:22 _yu68: I deleted some 1/8s by raiden's veto, but I can't explain the difference in representations caused by them. I'm sorry
20:22 _yu68: They were the same 1/8 in the older version
20:24 Nardoxyribonucleic: I see. I wondered about the difference because structure-wise, deleting 00:35:270 (328,330) - as well would be more coherent.
20:25 Nardoxyribonucleic: And you talked about hand alternation previously, so I'm mentioning this now
20:26 _yu68: I guess that 1/8 and 1/2 confuse would make players confused
20:28 Nardoxyribonucleic: Hmm so, you think that 14 pairs of 1/8 are better than 6-2-6-2?
20:30 _yu68: I think that it is easy to decide how to hit, although the density is high
20:33 Nardoxyribonucleic: Alright. You may ask Arrival for rebubble and tasuke to requalify then.
20:33 _yu68: Could I add 1/8 to 00:36:423 - and 00:36:568 - ?
20:37 Nardoxyribonucleic: That is why I asked about the inconsistencies lol
20:38 _yu68: Thanks, and I apologize for my verrrrry poor English._.
20:38 Nardoxyribonucleic: Considering the factor of full alternation together, you have two choices of pattern: Either delete 00:35:270 (328,330) - or add 00:36:423 - 00:36:568 -
20:39 Nardoxyribonucleic: So I think you may choose between these two options regarding pattern consistency
20:40 _yu68: I understand.
20:41 Nardoxyribonucleic: Hmm, so you preferred the latter
20:41 _yu68: chose the later and updated the map
20:42 Nardoxyribonucleic: I guess that is all from my side at the moment. You may ask Arrival and tasuke now.
20:43 _yu68: Thanks so much :3
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Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:
Had some discussions with yumuya in the game. Log as stated below.IRC check with _yu68, Sep 8, 201719:37 _yu68: Hello :3
19:37 Nardoxyribonucleic: Hi :3
19:38 *Nardoxyribonucleic is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/871924 D(ABE3) - MANIERA]
19:40 Nardoxyribonucleic: First of all, I still think maziari's use of 1/6 at 01:10:713 (539,540,541,542,543,544,545,546,547) - is not very appropriate, but well I'm going to be a bit lenient about it now
19:44 _yu68: I think the 1/6 is showing drum roll well
19:47 Nardoxyribonucleic: Main drum beats falls on 1/4 while there is an extra beat at 01:11:110 -
19:47 Nardoxyribonucleic: That is why I would suggest 1/4
19:47 Nardoxyribonucleic: The rolls are not even snapped in 1/6
19:48 Nardoxyribonucleic: I would not suggest mapping that extra beat as the snaps would be too irregular to follow
19:49 Nardoxyribonucleic: Yet 1/6 would not be the best choice here, that is my stance
19:49 Nardoxyribonucleic: But well as I said, I'm more lenient about this pattern now.
19:50 Nardoxyribonucleic: So maziari may keep that in case he still strongly insists
19:51 _yu68: I see
19:52 Nardoxyribonucleic: Then about Virtuoso
19:53 Nardoxyribonucleic: What was the 1/8 pattern arrangement agreed by Raiden upon his bubble?
19:53 Nardoxyribonucleic: i.e. [https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/6021558 this post]
19:57 Nardoxyribonucleic: I need to take that as reference to make comparison
19:58 _yu68: tasuke had said that he can qualify
19:58 Nardoxyribonucleic: He agreed with the current version or?
19:59 Nardoxyribonucleic: Agreed with adding 00:36:423 - 00:36:568 - d
19:59 Nardoxyribonucleic: which one?
19:59 _yu68: yes
19:59 _yu68: Absolutely impossible to ignore raiden's veto?
20:00 Nardoxyribonucleic: You need two other nominators' override
20:01 _yu68: It's Arrival and tasuke
20:02 Nardoxyribonucleic: So both of them agreed with the current version?
20:02 _yu68: Probably
20:03 _yu68: The map has not changed much since they agreed
20:03 _yu68: p/6126340
20:03 _yu68: and,
20:04 _yu68: https://twitter.com/tasuke912/status/877143037066878977
20:04 _yu68: tasuke is saying "If there is no one who QFs MANIERA, I can do it."
20:06 Nardoxyribonucleic: Okay. Before letting you guys move on, one more question.
20:09 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:35:270 (328,330) - these two are actually similar spots with 00:36:423 - 00:36:568 - . I would like to know the reason of the difference, like why not using at 00:35:234 - and 00:35:378 - as well
20:10 Nardoxyribonucleic: I mean the use of 1/2
20:12 _yu68: as I said in forum, I mapped as 1/8 to make ease of hitting.
20:16 _yu68: ah
20:16 Nardoxyribonucleic: ?
20:17 _yu68: means "why am I using 1/2 there"?
20:17 Nardoxyribonucleic: I was asking why the representations at 00:35:234 (327,328,329,330) - and 00:36:387 (343,344) - are different
20:18 Nardoxyribonucleic: Like, why don't you use 1/2 at the former pair as well
20:22 _yu68: I deleted some 1/8s by raiden's veto, but I can't explain the difference in representations caused by them. I'm sorry
20:22 _yu68: They were the same 1/8 in the older version
20:24 Nardoxyribonucleic: I see. I wondered about the difference because structure-wise, deleting 00:35:270 (328,330) - as well would be more coherent.
20:25 Nardoxyribonucleic: And you talked about hand alternation previously, so I'm mentioning this now
20:26 _yu68: I guess that 1/8 and 1/2 confuse would make players confused
20:28 Nardoxyribonucleic: Hmm so, you think that 14 pairs of 1/8 are better than 6-2-6-2?
20:30 _yu68: I think that it is easy to decide how to hit, although the density is high
20:33 Nardoxyribonucleic: Alright. You may ask Arrival for rebubble and tasuke to requalify then.
20:33 _yu68: Could I add 1/8 to 00:36:423 - and 00:36:568 - ?
20:37 Nardoxyribonucleic: That is why I asked about the inconsistencies lol
20:38 _yu68: Thanks, and I apologize for my verrrrry poor English._.
20:38 Nardoxyribonucleic: Considering the factor of full alternation together, you have two choices of pattern: Either delete 00:35:270 (328,330) - or add 00:36:423 - 00:36:568 -
20:39 Nardoxyribonucleic: So I think you may choose between these two options regarding pattern consistency
20:40 _yu68: I understand.
20:41 Nardoxyribonucleic: Hmm, so you preferred the latter
20:41 _yu68: chose the later and updated the map
20:42 Nardoxyribonucleic: I guess that is all from my side at the moment. You may ask Arrival and tasuke now.
20:43 _yu68: Thanks so much :3
Thanks for helping!Arrival wrote:
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Qualified! 
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Thanks~! have fun :3!tasuke912 wrote:
Qualified!
Congrats
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komasy wrote:
gratz!
Mrriichi wrote:
Congrats
Thanks <3Tyistiana wrote:
Finally, congratz!! :3
Congratz yuuuu!!
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Thank you! :333Pachiru wrote:
Congratz yuuuu!!
I am such a happy little fox right now!
おめでとう, yumuya！
おめでとう, yumuya！
recongrats uwu
[ Eon Fox ] wrote:
I am such a happy little fox right now!
おめでとう, yumuya！
Congratz yumuya :3/