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16:43 Shiirn: ike
16:43 Shiirn: i found something
16:43 Shiirn: u might like
16:43 Shiirn: http://puu.sh/mMWam/b85b6b405b.png
16:44 BeatofIke:
16:45 BeatofIke: I remember this message. I sent this same message to many BATs XD
16:45 BeatofIke: hahaha
16:46 Shiirn:
16:46 Shiirn: also
16:46 BeatofIke: it was my first map XD
16:46 Shiirn: lel
16:46 Shiirn: cuz he owes me a mod
16:46 Shiirn: mod ignite so that desperate-kun can qualify it instead of bubbling it
16:46 Shiirn: i know!
16:47 Shiirn: i forget if i ever looked at it.
16:47 BeatofIke: nah
16:47 BeatofIke: anyways....time to take a look now
16:48 Shiirn: welp
16:48 Shiirn:
16:48 Shiirn: Ongaku has given me carte blanche to change anything he's mapped at any time
16:48 BeatofIke: test playing first
16:48 BeatofIke: and okay ^-^
16:59 BeatofIke: old-style mapping ^-^
16:59 Shiirn: haha
16:59 BeatofIke: not bad
16:59 Shiirn: yep
16:59 Shiirn: i figure i can alternate it around a bit
16:59 Shiirn: some old some new
17:05 BeatofIke: 02:57:480 (5) - Missing clap on slider head =w=b
17:05 BeatofIke: (Normal diff)
17:05 Shiirn: done
17:06 Shiirn: i did the hitsounding
17:06 Shiirn: so my fault
17:06 Shiirn: lel
17:06 BeatofIke: that's all I found on Normal tbh
17:06 Shiirn: ok
17:06 BeatofIke: pretty straight-forward
17:14 BeatofIke: 02:11:623 (3,4) - I don't think this spacing was intentioanlly done lol
17:15 Shiirn: you're right
17:15 Shiirn: moved 4 up
17:20 BeatofIke: 01:45:266 (2) - shouldn't this note be centered? o.o
17:20 Shiirn: yes
17:20 Shiirn: it is now
17:20 BeatofIke: unless you wnated to stack with 01:46:337 (4) -
17:21 Shiirn: that was kind of the idea but couldnt get it working right without reworking it
17:21 Shiirn: and put it off
17:21 Shiirn: you know how it is
17:21 Shiirn: ill fiddle with it right now
17:21 BeatofIke: okay
17:22 Shiirn: done
17:22 Shiirn: 4 is centered on x axis and the pattern fiddled to blanket, stack, etc etc etc
17:23 BeatofIke: cool cool :3
17:24 BeatofIke: I was thinking something like [http://puu.sh/mNr3x/a04219c4d8.jpg this] but that works too ^-^
17:25 Shiirn: that is what i did
17:25 Shiirn: almost to the dot
17:25 Shiirn: o3o
17:25 BeatofIke: okay
17:25 BeatofIke: lol
17:28 BeatofIke: think that's about it :3
17:28 Shiirn: for hard?
17:28 BeatofIke: yup
17:28 Shiirn: kk
17:31 BeatofIke: I do noticed some unsnapped timing sections, but it's later not eariler o3o
17:31 Shiirn: unsnapped timing sections are 99.99% sure to not actually hurt anything
17:31 BeatofIke: yup, especally if it's later ^-^
17:31 Shiirn: as when i made this i was lazy and would mash the "add section" button for 1/4 timing for 4 notes instead of putting one on every note
17:32 Shiirn: mashing = 100ms between sections
17:32 Shiirn: 1/4 = 107ms in 140bpm
17:32 Shiirn: lol
17:32 Shiirn: so that's the discrepancy
17:32 BeatofIke: huehue ^-^
17:37 BeatofIke: I like the SB lol
17:37 Shiirn: its very simple
17:37 Shiirn: and very old
17:37 Shiirn: and subtle
17:38 BeatofIke: yeah o3o
17:44 BeatofIke: Yeah, I'm done XD
17:45 Shiirn: okay lemme update
17:45 Shiirn: k
17:54 BeatofIke: all good =w=b
17:54 Shiirn: \owo/

2016-01-31 20:43 Desperate-kun: i'll look at ignite
2016-01-31 20:43 Shiirn: woooo
2016-01-31 20:47 Desperate-kun: irc?
2016-01-31 20:48 Shiirn: well i guess
2016-01-31 20:48 Shiirn: hopefully there's not much before qualify
2016-01-31 20:48 Desperate-kun: let's see
2016-01-31 20:48 Desperate-kun: so why is the preview point right at the beginning where there is literally nothing happening
2016-01-31 20:48 Shiirn: Ongaku is also online if you want to irc the second half of the hard
2016-01-31 20:48 Desperate-kun: alright
2016-01-31 20:49 Shiirn: Largely because literally nothing happens the entire song
2016-01-31 20:49 Shiirn: and i felt that the different sections of the song were so different aht picking a particular one would be rather inaccurate
2016-01-31 20:49 Desperate-kun: hmm yeah alright
2016-01-31 20:49 Shiirn: as there are several distinct "different sections" but no actual kiai or chorus
2016-01-31 20:49 Shiirn: ya feel me?
2016-01-31 20:49 Desperate-kun: alright alright
2016-01-31 20:50 Desperate-kun: 00:26:623 (3,4) - make them parallel? #nazi
2016-01-31 20:50 Shiirn: the only buildup is after the second break
2016-01-31 20:50 Shiirn: parallel 2 to 3 or 3 to 4?
2016-01-31 20:50 Desperate-kun: parallel to each other
2016-01-31 20:50 Desperate-kun: 3 to 4
2016-01-31 20:50 Desperate-kun: because i dunno
2016-01-31 20:50 Desperate-kun: when i played it i felt like they were supposed to be
2016-01-31 20:50 Shiirn: ok done
2016-01-31 20:51 Desperate-kun: cool
2016-01-31 20:52 Desperate-kun: 02:05:194 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,1) -
2016-01-31 20:52 Desperate-kun: may you explain your reasoning behind this
2016-01-31 20:52 Shiirn: There is none, really. Want me to de-NC them? xD
2016-01-31 20:52 Desperate-kun: every sound of this stream is identical so why do the NCs get more dense
2016-01-31 20:52 Desperate-kun: lol yeah please xD
2016-01-31 20:53 Shiirn: k
2016-01-31 20:53 Shiirn: now its 1234123412341
2016-01-31 20:53 Desperate-kun: alright
2016-01-31 20:54 Desperate-kun: alright Insane's fine
2016-01-31 20:54 Shiirn: ok
2016-01-31 20:54 Desperate-kun: i'm using the word "alright" too much
2016-01-31 20:54 Shiirn: Hard is a collab, ongaku has about the second half
2016-01-31 20:54 Shiirn: it's okay
2016-01-31 20:54 Shiirn: i use "ok" way too much
2016-01-31 20:54 Shiirn: LOL
2016-01-31 20:54 Desperate-kun: because i dunno many English filler words lol
2016-01-31 20:54 Shiirn: english doesnt have many filler words
2016-01-31 20:55 Desperate-kun: btw who bubbled this
2016-01-31 20:55 Desperate-kun: i am too lazy to look
2016-01-31 20:55 Shiirn: most of the time its just random other words
2016-01-31 20:55 Shiirn: BeatofIke
2016-01-31 20:55 Desperate-kun: oh alright
2016-01-31 20:55 Shiirn: dw
2016-01-31 20:55 Shiirn: i dont get bubbles from shits
2016-01-31 20:55 Desperate-kun: LOL
2016-01-31 20:55 Desperate-kun: Hard is cool so far
2016-01-31 20:55 Shiirn: ok
2016-01-31 20:56 Desperate-kun: who would have thought that
2016-01-31 20:56 Shiirn: o.o
2016-01-31 20:56 Desperate-kun: 02:03:480 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) -
2016-01-31 20:57 Desperate-kun: this is Ongaku right
2016-01-31 20:57 Shiirn: yes
2016-01-31 20:57 Shiirn: go bug him
2016-01-31 20:58 Shiirn: no wait
2016-01-31 20:58 Shiirn: that was me
2016-01-31 20:58 Shiirn: my bad
2016-01-31 20:58 Shiirn: 02:06:909 - this is where it swaps to him
2016-01-31 20:58 Shiirn: lol
2016-01-31 20:58 Shiirn: what's up
2016-01-31 20:58 Desperate-kun: ehh this pattern
2016-01-31 20:58 Desperate-kun: the end of the first repeat slider should probably be clickable
2016-01-31 20:58 Shiirn: mmm
2016-01-31 20:59 Desperate-kun: and i didn't expect the second one to be that long
2016-01-31 20:59 Shiirn: mmm
2016-01-31 20:59 Shiirn: how about
2016-01-31 20:59 Shiirn: 02:04:123 (4) - removing kick and adding another circle to the start of the other pattern (moving it a bit closer)
2016-01-31 20:59 Desperate-kun: yes
2016-01-31 21:00 Shiirn: and idk why the long hold is bad, ive never seen anyone miss on it
2016-01-31 21:00 Shiirn: they just go "oh thats long" and continue playing
2016-01-31 21:00 Desperate-kun: because there was the other short repeat slider before it
2016-01-31 21:00 Desperate-kun: and the pattern is literally just mirrored
2016-01-31 21:00 Desperate-kun: but if you have no repeat slider anymore it's all good
2016-01-31 21:00 Shiirn: yeah
2016-01-31 21:00 Shiirn: ur right there
2016-01-31 21:00 Desperate-kun: hmm what do you think
2016-01-31 21:00 Shiirn: done
2016-01-31 21:00 Shiirn: from there on is ongaku
2016-01-31 21:00 Shiirn: of?
2016-01-31 21:01 Desperate-kun: is it worth bugging Ongaku about these many ugly triple stacks under sliderends
2016-01-31 21:01 Desperate-kun: like 02:37:766 (1,2,3) -
2016-01-31 21:01 Shiirn: loooool
2016-01-31 21:01 Desperate-kun: that's exactly what manual stacking is used for
2016-01-31 21:01 Shiirn: uhhhh
2016-01-31 21:01 Shiirn: if you want
2016-01-31 21:01 Shiirn: i can go over it and manually stack for him
2016-01-31 21:01 Shiirn: i havent gone over that with it
2016-01-31 21:01 Shiirn: with him*
2016-01-31 21:01 Desperate-kun: well if you are allowed to just do that
2016-01-31 21:01 Shiirn: oh
2016-01-31 21:02 Shiirn: ongaku gives me carte blanche to do anything to his diffs as long as i tell him
2016-01-31 21:02 Shiirn: lol
2016-01-31 21:02 Desperate-kun: alright alright
2016-01-31 21:02 Desperate-kun: 02:34:337 (1,2,3) -
2016-01-31 21:02 Desperate-kun: 02:37:766 (1,2,3) -
2016-01-31 21:02 Desperate-kun: 02:41:194 (1,2,3) -
2016-01-31 21:02 Desperate-kun: 02:44:623 (1,2,3) -
2016-01-31 21:02 Desperate-kun: 02:48:480 (4,5,6) -
2016-01-31 21:02 Desperate-kun: 02:51:480 (1,2,3) -
2016-01-31 21:02 Desperate-kun: 02:54:909 (1,2,3) -
2016-01-31 21:02 Desperate-kun: well literally every 3 secs
2016-01-31 21:02 Shiirn: yeah i get it
2016-01-31 21:03 Desperate-kun: wow Normal is totally an Easy
2016-01-31 21:04 Desperate-kun: well the gap from Hard to Insane is big too
2016-01-31 21:04 Shiirn: ACTION coughs
2016-01-31 21:05 Shiirn: i mean, i don't think it really fits to have like 5 diffs on this this
2016-01-31 21:05 Shiirn: this thing*
2016-01-31 21:05 Desperate-kun: nah it's alright
2016-01-31 21:05 Desperate-kun: it's pretty edgy for modern standards but atleast the gaps are the same size
2016-01-31 21:06 Desperate-kun: okay that would be it btw
2016-01-31 21:06 Shiirn: "modern standards" you mean where a tv size has like 9 diffs
2016-01-31 21:06 Desperate-kun: yes
2016-01-31 21:06 Shiirn: with the top one being an overmapped 5.6* piece of shit that is dtable
2016-01-31 21:06 Desperate-kun: yes
2016-01-31 21:06 Shiirn: k lemme finish manually stacking these
2016-01-31 21:07 Shiirn: do you want me to manually stack them directly under ends or include the "fake" stacking as well?
2016-01-31 21:08 Shiirn: e.g. only by 3-4 pixels or by 7 pixels
2016-01-31 21:08 Desperate-kun: huh? wait a moment
2016-01-31 21:08 Desperate-kun: they are triple stacks
2016-01-31 21:08 Shiirn: as it is right now it's
2016-01-31 21:08 Shiirn: Slider end -> circle -> slider where the sliders are perfectly aligned but the circle is stacked up due to how stacking words
2016-01-31 21:09 Desperate-kun: yeah
2016-01-31 21:09 Desperate-kun: so you should move (2) and (3) by 8 pixels
2016-01-31 21:09 Shiirn: do you want me to just stack the circles flat under them?
2016-01-31 21:09 Shiirn: ah
2016-01-31 21:09 Shiirn: then 7 pixels
2016-01-31 21:09 Desperate-kun: 7?
2016-01-31 21:09 Shiirn: stacking uses 3.5 pixels btw
2016-01-31 21:09 Desperate-kun: wait is stacking 3.5?
2016-01-31 21:09 Shiirn: yeah
2016-01-31 21:09 Desperate-kun: OMG
2016-01-31 21:09 Shiirn: 3.5
2016-01-31 21:09 Desperate-kun: NO
2016-01-31 21:09 Shiirn: yes
2016-01-31 21:09 Shiirn: because
2016-01-31 21:09 Shiirn: 3.5 in a right angle triangle
2016-01-31 21:09 Desperate-kun: I DIDN'T KNOW THAT
2016-01-31 21:09 Shiirn: makes for 4.995blahblahblah pixel distance
2016-01-31 21:10 Shiirn: it's emulating exactly 5 pixels
2016-01-31 21:10 Desperate-kun: oh
2016-01-31 21:10 Desperate-kun: i see
2016-01-31 21:10 Shiirn: a squared plus b squared
2016-01-31 21:10 Shiirn: etc etc
2016-01-31 21:10 Desperate-kun: yeah
2016-01-31 21:10 Desperate-kun: yeah
2016-01-31 21:10 Desperate-kun: man
2016-01-31 21:10 Desperate-kun: i remember when i was kinda new to mapping
2016-01-31 21:10 Desperate-kun: and i thought i had to move it 5 pixels
2016-01-31 21:10 Desperate-kun: my face when i heard it was just 4 pixels
2016-01-31 21:10 Desperate-kun: AND NOW YOU TELL ME IT'S 3.5
2016-01-31 21:11 Shiirn: well
2016-01-31 21:11 Shiirn: for single moves
2016-01-31 21:11 Shiirn: you need 4
2016-01-31 21:11 Desperate-kun: yep
2016-01-31 21:11 Shiirn: for moving two like this, 7
2016-01-31 21:11 Shiirn: because it rounds up
2016-01-31 21:11 Shiirn: thats why some stacks look SLIIIIGHTLY off
2016-01-31 21:12 Shiirn: because of rounding errors
2016-01-31 21:12 Shiirn: or "features" as peppy calls them
2016-01-31 21:12 Shiirn: hehe
2016-01-31 21:13 Desperate-kun: yeah
2016-01-31 21:13 Desperate-kun: >
2016-01-31 21:13 Shiirn: see? we learned something today
2016-01-31 21:13 Desperate-kun: okay lol
2016-01-31 21:13 Desperate-kun: update plz
2016-01-31 21:13 Desperate-kun: i wanna play multi xD
2016-01-31 21:13 Shiirn: im not quite done
2016-01-31 21:13 Shiirn: SORRY
2016-01-31 21:13 Desperate-kun: kiai's end isn't snapped in Insane
2016-01-31 21:14 Shiirn: gj
2016-01-31 21:14 Shiirn: its just for a burst
2016-01-31 21:14 Shiirn: who cares
2016-01-31 21:14 Desperate-kun: well
2016-01-31 21:14 Desperate-kun: just fix it to be save lol
2016-01-31 21:14 Shiirn: AND IT TOTALLY IS SNAPPED
2016-01-31 21:14 Desperate-kun: i just aimodded okay
2016-01-31 21:14 Shiirn: OH
2016-01-31 21:15 Shiirn: that one.
2016-01-31 21:15 Shiirn: >_>
2016-01-31 21:15 Shiirn: k
2016-01-31 21:15 Shiirn: updating
2016-01-31 21:15 Shiirn: lol
2016-01-31 21:15 Desperate-kun: nice
2016-01-31 21:15 Shiirn: updated
2016-01-31 21:15 Shiirn: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/871566 Noisestorm - Ignite [Insane]]
2016-01-31 21:16 Desperate-kun: alright i approve of your manual stacking skills
2016-01-31 21:17 Shiirn: lol