Warak - REANIMATE · forum

MBomb

MBomb 2016-03-19T13:48:57+00:00

Absolute Zero wrote:
S N A P P I N G P R A C T I C E B O Y Z

[IMAAAAAAAAGINATION]
Bleh 2hard5me hope these comments help.
00:26:229 (4,1) - Even over a 1/1 distance, this kind of jump is too difficult. Lower distance? - It's a HDash though, so this jump is quite easy... If this was a normal dash I'd agree but yeah.
00:36:229 (3) - Ctrl+G? The music is actually closer to (2) here than (4), so a larger jump is fine- I feel it's more important to create the flow from (2,3), but a create a larger movement from (3,4). - Hmm, I want to have the HDash pattern following the vocals here, it sounds nicer to me, and the vocal on 3 is a lot stronger than the vocal 4.
00:45:884 (3) - End this on 00:46:401 instead? Musically, it makes more sense than the snap. - I like the effect this gives of sudden intensity as you hit into the kiai, which is a lot more energetic than the previous parts, and this sound is held past that 1/2 tick.
00:58:298 (4) - Tilt slider end slightly right to make more of a movement here? - I feel as though this breaks flow, due to the fact this would make the note far too easy to overdash and add a lot of difficulty to this section, it's already difficult to catch this on the centre of your plate following flow, so yeah.
01:36:918 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - The hypers are play a little strangely because of the sudden zig-zag shape instead, and I would suggest that the pattern have a - Have a what? Either way, I feel as though this pattern plays fine, although the zig-zag pattern wouldn't be my #1 choice, I'm restricted by the size of the playfield.
01:43:901 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - This curve here is a little here with the lack of movement. Mirror something like at 01:46:315 (4,5,6,7,8)? - Hmm, didn't do that, but made a tiny bit more movement here.
01:57:953 (7) - Make this a 1/2 slider? Musically, this makes more sense because the slider end is not heard, making it sound like you heard the sound wrong? - Again, this was for the held sound, and there is not really a sound on the 1/2 tick either, so it'd make as much sense putting it there as leaving it as it is now, and I like the effect this makes of the energetic kiai, as before.
02:03:384 (5) - Move (5) to x=128? I was expecting a little movement here--a sudden standstill is a little strange. - The standstill here emphasises the lack of change in note or anything similar from the previous note, and works well to emphasise the change of the next drumbeat, as it is a lot stronger.
02:07:608 (7) - Slant this left (or right in some cases)? The standstill makes any movement a little awkward flow due to the sudden jump to the other side of the screen. - Curved slightly instead to make droplet flow nicer.
02:12:953 (6) - Same comment as 01:36:918 (1,2,3,4,5,6). - I feel as though this pattern plays really nicely with the wub sounds of the song, and so I'd prefer to leave it as it is.

Thanks for the mod! Also made one or two changes myself.

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JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-03-19T14:44:31+00:00

Absolute Zero wrote:
S N A P P I N G P R A C T I C E B O Y Z

[JBH's Rain Thing]
00:03:126 (4) - Make this a 1/2 slider instead? No definitive sound here to justify ending this on the red tick, so extending to a 3/4 sounds better here
00:10:711 (1,2,3,4) - Bleh, easier place to miss droplets. Slant the ends of these sliders away from each other slightly? If I slant these more it will be awkward to catch the hitobjects, since it'll either require a flowing movement (more droplets missed) or another tap action (awkward af to play)
00:24:504 (1) - Make this a hitcircle? I don't hear the end of this slider, and it's strange that the chorus sings the same rhythm, but this is the only time you put a slider. There's a faint sound drum/synth here as the reverb of the kick drum ends
01:42:953 (6,7) - This can be a little awkward to reach- dash is not required before, but the player must suddenly hit it and there's the large possibility of overshooting. Lower distance slightly? Agreed, reduced distance here for better flow
01:49:332 (7) - NC? Combo gets a little top-heavy here. Done
01:57:091 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - With the curved movement you have here, it's a little surprising with the short amount of time between the spinner and the required jump back from (1) to (2). Reduced (1,2) slightly
02:08:298 (2) - Not sure if it's me being mad cuz bad, but this movement here is a little strange because of the anti-flow + larger jump. Lower distance? Umm, there is no antiflow here lol
02:10:884 (2,3) - This back-forth jump is uncomfortable. Nerf the distance slightly? Done here and also at 02:15:884 (5,1,2)
02:21:056 (4) - Make this a 1/2 slider instead? The ending almost sounds like you're jumping the gun and feels weird with the music. Same reasoning as first point, this fits really well as a 3/4 slider to me

Thanks for the mod!

Fixed some more awkward jumps via self-modding too

Rain

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: REANIMATE.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 57263
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.5
Mode: 2
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.8
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
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[Metadata]
Title:REANIMATE
TitleUnicode:REANIMATE
Artist:Warak
ArtistUnicode:Warak
Creator:Shiirn
Version:Hyperion's Rain
Source:Rhythm Master
Tags:节奏大师 symphonic drumstep Anxient Avalon Blocko _Gezo_ JBHyperion Kuo Kyouka KK Mat Magic Bomb Nwolf Raiden Rohit6 Side Spaghetti The Fetish Zirox
BeatmapID:892065
BeatmapSetID:400522

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:9
ApproachRate:9
SliderMultiplier:1.8
SliderTickRate:1

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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
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Shiirn

2,896 posts

Joined August 2010

Topic Starter

Shiirn 2016-03-20T01:41:04+00:00

updated, i'll get around to editting the op later fuggit

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,225 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2016-03-20T19:41:08+00:00

imaaaaaaginaaaaaaaation

Firstly, you should probably just change it to "Overdose" considering no other gd'er is using a custom diff name lol

As the most outspoken person in every discord about this difficulty, I thought it was about time I left my thoughts here. As much as I'd like to believe this map is "the best it can be" as it is so claimed, I highly suggest that you go about considering each and every possible suggestion I give remap please as seriously as you can. For once in my life, I'll go through in detail why I think things should be changed in an effort that this map won't be the hyperspam snap fest that it is now.

I'm only going to mod the high diff for ctb since the others seem okay to me or I've already discussed with mappers about them before. I'll point out everything in the other diffs that's unrankable, however.

Let's go.

General
Tags

The Fetish should probably be The_Fetish
Same with magic_bomb
Add mbomb to tags, since most of his maps are labeled as such.
Your tags are inconsistent across all difficulties. Go yell at people to fix that shit.

Metadata

Seems fine

Spread/Other

Maybe the AR could be 8.5/9/9.5 for the ctb diffs? I planned to mention that an increase in AR in the platter and overdose would help a bit with the density of the maps themselves, so this is a nice fix imo.
HP is at 6/6/7 ? Maybe a +1 for the rain diff would be nice to keep it in line with our usual rains.

Hitsounds

drum-hitclap79.wav is not used, and is therefore necessary to be deleted.

Spaghetti's Insane

General

00:57:608 - You have two uninherited timing sections on top of each other, which is unrankable.

ZiRoX's Platter

General

01:10:705 - Snap this timing section to the white tick, because as of right now it's not doing its job.

MBomb's Imagination

General

00:01:401 (1) - Tbh, you should muffle the end of this spinner a bit, there's not an actual sound at the end of it and it plays as loud as a regular hitcircle.
00:03:556 (8,9,10,1) - You could curve (or at least make it completely straight) 8,9,10 a bit more to make it play better into the repeat slider. As of right now, you're kind of halfway in between a straight stream and a curve, and it just looks bad.\
00:05:194 (1,2,3,4) - Making this into a curve like ) not only makes it smoother into 00:05:539 (5) - , but also gives the stream some direction where it currently lacks.
00:05:539 (5,6,7) - The high distance hdash between 5,6 and back to 7 is something that should probably be reduced, especially since at least for 5,6 the music doesn't call for that harsh of a dash. Even later in the map you have lower distance dashes. 6,7 could keep the current distance it has, but for 5,6, I think there should definitely be some reduction.
00:06:832 (2,3,4,5,6) - kill me. These are so snappy, but the music doesn't even call for a snap this harsh? The music is flowy and smooth at this point and you go on to create this. If you want to keep the snaps that you've been adamant about keeping, I'd suggest removing the awkward hitcircles in the pattern and doing something more with sliders. I did something like this which, in my opinion, fits the music better and plays a lot cleaner than what we have currently.
Up until 00:12:004 (8,1) - , you have a section where you need to hold dash, but if you hold dash at 00:12:004 (8,1) - , you'll miss it completely and overshoot and likely fail. This is further reinforced that the dash hold would make a pattern like 00:12:091 (1,2) - incredibly awkward and challenging to play. I'd suggest rearranging these last three notes at 00:12:004 (8,1,2) - to make it less rough to play out of the previous patterns you've utilized.
00:23:039 (8) - The fact that this note doesn't exist AND you've added a hyperdash to it really makes me contemplate who the overmapper is here. If you want to keep this note, I'd suggest removing the hdash, and making it into a regular double or even turning 00:23:039 (8,1) - into a slider.
00:47:436 (5,6,7) - You have a really weird hdash pattern here of 1/4 into 1/2, which isn't normally an issue except for the fact that the 1/2 dash has an antiflow pattern that can throw players off. Ctrl+g'ing 00:47:780 (7) - to make it play better out of the speed change dash should help this situation.
00:54:160 (1,2) - These aren't very imaginative lmao Why not turn them into two curves?
01:03:470 (3) - This droplet on the very left side is REALLY easy to overshoot, undershoot, and miss completely. I think you should change the slider shape to best suit the pattern, especially when players are focusing on the what the fuck hyperdash spam coming up ahead.
01:09:332 (3,4) - This dash can be quite weird, but it isn't bad. However, keeping the 1/4 hdashes is something I recommend, therefore I think adding a note at 01:09:418 - would really benefit this pattern as a whole.
01:12:004 (2,3) - This is such a harsh snap into a really harsh left stream. Why not reshape the stream to make it S-shaped, so that the (2) snap plays into a ) shape that's more smooth and less rigid to play?
01:39:907 (3,4) - Instead of making this a cross-screen jump, why not just make the previous pattern go backwards? The current jump seems out of place to me, and after testing quite a bit of patterns, simple reversing the previous 3 note hdash pattern played much better.
02:03:298 (4,5,6) - The stacked note into hdash plays a bit weird here coming out of the previous pattern, especially since it was a regular dash. I think making it so 02:03:298 (4,5) - faces to the right and hdashes back into 6 would be a much more fitting pattern.
02:06:401 (7) - Why D: This straight slider makes it so easy to slip up on the final part of this hdash stream. Why not just tilt it like the others ?
02:30:022 (3,4) - This really doesn't deserve a hyperdash like the others 02:30:022 (3) - is a REALLY soft note that you can barely even hear over the volume of the note as of right now, yet it has a hyperdash? Removing it is probably the best thing to do here.

@mbomb if you have questions or want to discuss more with me about it, pm me as usual

also finish rainbow tylenol

ok nice job ppl

get this ranked so i can farm it

HappyRocket88

4,321 posts

Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2016-03-20T20:58:17+00:00

[

General] I hope you guys don't think Side diff will fit as the easiest diff of this mapset. Despite the rhythm at the beginning was mapped mostly over 1/1 beats, the kiai comprehends a patterning rather complex which isn't suitable with how players who just joined the game will handle this difficulty. Hence, adding an Easy difficulty simplifying those rhythm would the best due the usage of 1/2 beats throughout the Normal difficulty.

Mod

Side's Normal

[

Side's Normal] Hola, Side. Tu dificultad me gustó mucho porque tiene el ritmo es fácil de entender y fluye bien. ¡Buen trabajo! Trataré de ser lo más objetivo posible porque la dificultad así como está va en términos rankeables a mi concepto. Comecenmos:

00:43:815 (5) - Ubicar un NC aquí encajaría perfecto debido a la manera como manejas el NC constate en los patrones anteriores. Por otro lado, ¿hay alguna manera de evitar el overlap que hace con este slider 00:42:436 (3) - ? Puedo notar a primeras que es intencional, pero considero pertinente resaltar que el uso de un slider-shape diferente tendría más sentido aquí. ¿qué opinas de estos?
1. Opción
2. Opción
3. Opción ignora si no se ve simétrico ;w;
00:52:780 (2,3) - El movimiento que estos sliders hacen no es realmente intuitivo aquí ya que la transición de un slider a otro crea un flujo bastante forzado para una Normal. Sería mejor que redujeras el ángulo de curva que estos sliders crean para manejar un flujo mucho más tenue en esta sección, así mismo como lo elaboraste aquí 00:50:022 (2,3) - .
01:15:539 (3) - La manera como el slider head hace overlap con el slider-tail causa un flujo un tanto incómodo para los jugadores que apenas empiezan debido al movimiento forzoso del punto rojo al slider-head. En otras palabras, el slider-path no es recomendable para hacer transición de un slider a otro si tomamos en cuenta el grado de dificultad. Sin embargo, dada la manera como construiste los demàs seliders, no debería ser mayor problema utilizar un slider más amigable en este segmento.
01:32:091 (3,4) - El ritmo es demasiado etéreo para dejar gaps de notas en este patrón. Si bien quisiste enfatizar el beat del white tick en este segmento, no es tan prominente como los siguientes ticks donde claramente se escucha el fuerte golpe que la batería enfatiza aquí. Por lo tanto, tendría más sentido si ubicaras beats aquí 01:32:263 - y aquí 01:32:436 - para permitir a los jugadores seguir con el ritmo de los 1/2 que venías manejando anteriormente. ¿qué opinas de estos ritmos?
1. Opción
2. Opciòn
Nota: Considera aplicar algo similar en este caso 01:37:608 (3,4,5) -

Auxent's Hard

[

Auxent's Hard] Greetings! Really nice Hard as always. I only have some little complaints that worry me a bit about this difficulty. But the rest was really fluent and catchy. Good job, Mr. Xexxar's hard difficulty slave:

First at all, what's the purpose of starting the difficulty on this beat 00:02:953 - ? It was quite awkward to play because on the three tries I played I didn't get 300 due the circle which is placed there feels off compared with the rest of objects.
00:09:677 (2) - It would be better if this slider were 1/4 + reverse due how the music turns wiggle in this part. Just as well as you did in the upcoming patterns.
00:16:746 (2,3) - Variation is important, but this slight jump doesn't fit at all because the song really does not offers it. It would be better if you kept consistent the DS over this sections to develop a nicer flow here.
00:34:160 (3) - This should be with NC because it will keep consistency with the way NC was managed in this segment.
00:35:194 (4) - This circle feels way off because the music does not highlight any wave either drum beat here. Hence, removing it would be the best for creating rhythms nicely to play.
02:01:918 (4) - This flow was rather confusing because there's no need to place a jump at the red tick when the stron beats resides over the white tick. Therefore, by doing Ctrl + G the flow would be slightly improve and it would become more catchy to read.

Anxient

1,568 posts

Joined June 2014

Anxient 2016-03-20T23:55:41+00:00

HappyRocket88 wrote:
[Aunxient's Hard] Greetings! Really nice Hard as always. I only have some little complaints that worry me a bit about this difficulty. But the rest was really fluent and catchy. Good job, Mr. Xexxar's hard difficulty slave: - who tf is auxent >:[
First at all, what's the purpose of starting the difficulty on this beat 00:02:953 - ? It was quite awkward to play because on the three tries I played I didn't get 300 due the circle which is placed there feels off compared with the rest of objects. - DID EDITOR JUST EAT MY INTRO WHAT
00:09:677 (2) - It would be better if this slider were 1/4 + reverse due how the music turns wiggle in this part. Just as well as you did in the upcoming patterns. - gotcha fam
00:16:746 (2,3) - Variation is important, but this slight jump doesn't fit at all because the song really does not offers it. It would be better if you kept consistent the DS over this sections to develop a nicer flow here. - the really loud kick in here 00:16:918 (3) - says otherwise
00:34:160 (3) - This should be with NC because it will keep consistency with the way NC was managed in this segment. - ill keep it tho. im focusing on the song segments lol.
00:35:194 (4) - This circle feels way off because the music does not highlight any wave either drum beat here. Hence, removing it would be the best for creating rhythms nicely to play. - ok man
02:01:918 (4) - This flow was rather confusing because there's no need to place a jump at the red tick when the stron beats resides over the white tick. Therefore, by doing Ctrl + G the flow would be slightly improve and it would become more catchy to read. - i remapped this part so that i can emphasize the notes properly.

thanks rocket

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Shiirn

2,896 posts

Joined August 2010

Topic Starter

Shiirn 2016-03-21T01:38:25+00:00

HappyRocket88 wrote:
[ General] I hope you guys don't think Side diff will fit as the easiest diff of this mapset. Despite the rhythm at the beginning was mapped mostly over 1/1 beats, the kiai comprehends a patterning rather complex which isn't suitable with how players who just joined the game will handle this difficulty. Hence, adding an Easy difficulty simplifying those rhythm would the best due the usage of 1/2 beats throughout the Normal difficulty.

The ranking criteria requires a difficulty below 2.00 stars, not an easy difficulty.

Ascendance wrote:
[notice]General
Tags
The Fetish should probably be The_Fetish
Same with magic_bomb
Add mbomb to tags, since most of his maps are labeled as such.
Your tags are inconsistent across all difficulties. Go yell at people to fix that shit.

god dammit i'll figure it out later lol

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,225 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2016-03-21T04:52:52+00:00

Shiirn wrote:
HappyRocket88 wrote:
[ General] I hope you guys don't think Side diff will fit as the easiest diff of this mapset. Despite the rhythm at the beginning was mapped mostly over 1/1 beats, the kiai comprehends a patterning rather complex which isn't suitable with how players who just joined the game will handle this difficulty. Hence, adding an Easy difficulty simplifying those rhythm would the best due the usage of 1/2 beats throughout the Normal difficulty.
The ranking criteria requires a difficulty below 2.00 stars, not an easy difficulty.

Ascendance wrote:
[notice]General
Tags
The Fetish should probably be The_Fetish
Same with magic_bomb
Add mbomb to tags, since most of his maps are labeled as such.
Your tags are inconsistent across all difficulties. Go yell at people to fix that shit.
god dammit i'll figure it out later lol

Don't forget the unused hitsound needs to be deleted and u need to gimme my kd xdxdxd

Feerum

osu! Alumni

2,042 posts

Joined August 2014

Feerum 2016-03-21T14:55:37+00:00

Hello again.

Shiirn did contact me Ingame about the Mania Diffs in this Set.

The Mania Diff's are in the current state unrankable. You need to add 2 More diffs for each key count. Means:
You need 2 more 4Key difficulty's (Easy/Normal)
You need 2 more 7Key difficulty's (Easy/Normal)
See here the osu!mania Ranking Criteria

The 1st counts only for "Easy/Normal". Since you have already an HD/MX in both you will need these two lower difficulty's too.
The 2nd Point say's clearly that you need a Full spread for every Keycount you add into your set.

I also would like to mention following Rule:
"The lowest difficulty must be below 2.0 stars."
This count's for every Game mode, also for Mania.

Who ever said you don't need a full spread or the spread is fine was wrong.
Few Year's ago when osu!mania was a new mode you didn't need a full spread for Mania diffs since Standard converts count as Difficult, but this was changed already a while ago.

Side

1,127 posts

Joined October 2013

Side 2016-03-21T19:36:48+00:00

HappyRocket88 wrote:
[ General] I hope you guys don't think Side diff will fit as the easiest diff of this mapset. Despite the rhythm at the beginning was mapped mostly over 1/1 beats, the kiai comprehends a patterning rather complex which isn't suitable with how players who just joined the game will handle this difficulty. Hence, adding an Easy difficulty simplifying those rhythm would the best due the usage of 1/2 beats throughout the Normal difficulty. On the contrary I feel this fits perfectly within an easy/normal difficulty. The spacing and slider velocity is still lenient enough for new players and the rhythm choices shouldn't present anything too tricky for anyone who's played the tutorial enough to understand you have to click and HOLD for a slider (making fun of one of my friends here lol) but yeah everything about the way I mapped this difficulty took into consideration both brand new players and players who are still not quite ready for hard but like this song. Also, an easier difficulty would forcibly have to be under 1* to fit the difficulty spread adequately. This would mean the difficulty would likely need to use .6x default SV and a LOT of 2/1 slider spam and would be a difficulty that will really not be needed honestly because it would be sacrificing so much of the song for no major reason. Also as you said my normal meets ranking criteria standards where this normal can pass for the easiest difficulty. I honestly don't see a need for an easier difficulty but this is not up to me and I'm sure if Shiirn finds this necessary he'll find another GD for this version.

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Side's Normal
[ Side's Normal] Hola, Side. Tu dificultad me gustó mucho porque tiene el ritmo es fácil de entender y fluye bien. ¡Buen trabajo! Gracias :v Trataré de ser lo más objetivo posible porque la dificultad así como está va en términos rankeables a mi concepto. Comecenmos:
00:43:815 (5) - Ubicar un NC aquí encajaría perfecto debido a la manera como manejas el NC constate en los patrones anteriores. NC agregado Por otro lado, ¿hay alguna manera de evitar el overlap que hace con este slider 00:42:436 (3) - ? Puedo notar a primeras que es intencional, pero considero pertinente resaltar que el uso de un slider-shape diferente tendría más sentido aquí. ¿qué opinas de estos?

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Opción ignora si no se ve simétrico ;w;
A mi me encanta este overlap xd la curva de los dos sliders es casi igual y forma un tipo de óvalo que se ve muy bien. Ademas cabe perfectamente el slider end de 00:43:815 (1) - debajo de (3) y en medio de la curva (o bueno eso intenté) y para mi me parece lindo y nitido. Tampoco proporcionaría algun tipo de discrepancia de legibilidad porque (3) desaparece justo al principio de (1) en juego y asi el slider ya es 100% visible.
00:52:780 (2,3) - El movimiento que estos sliders hacen no es realmente intuitivo aquí ya que la transición de un slider a otro crea un flujo bastante forzado para una Normal. Sería mejor que redujeras el ángulo de curva que estos sliders crean para manejar un flujo mucho más tenue en esta sección, así mismo como lo elaboraste aquí 00:50:022 (2,3) - . Expandí los cuerpos de (2) y (3) para que sean mas visibles.
01:15:539 (3) - La manera como el slider head hace overlap con el slider-tail causa un flujo un tanto incómodo para los jugadores que apenas empiezan debido al movimiento forzoso del punto rojo al slider-head. En otras palabras, el slider-path no es recomendable para hacer transición de un slider a otro si tomamos en cuenta el grado de dificultad. Sin embargo, dada la manera como construiste los demàs seliders, no debería ser mayor problema utilizar un slider más amigable en este segmento. He recibido comentarios sobre este slider un par de veces. Aunque me gusta como hacen el circulo lo cambiaré
01:32:091 (3,4) - El ritmo es demasiado etéreo para dejar gaps de notas en este patrón. Si bien quisiste enfatizar el beat del white tick en este segmento, no es tan prominente como los siguientes ticks donde claramente se escucha el fuerte golpe que la batería enfatiza aquí. Por lo tanto, tendría más sentido si ubicaras beats aquí 01:32:263 - y aquí 01:32:436 - para permitir a los jugadores seguir con el ritmo de los 1/2 que venías manejando anteriormente. ¿qué opinas de estos ritmos?

Opción
Opciòn

Nota: Considera aplicar algo similar en este caso 01:37:608 (3,4,5) - Aqui la verdad queria hacer esta parte mas facil y por eso dejé esta sección mappeada al clavicordio (o ese instrumento que suena a piano) y al wub. Todavia me gusta como quedó esta sección pero podría agregar una nota a 01:32:436 - y a 01:37:953 - aunque no creo que sea una buena idea por 01:37:608 (3,4,5,1) - esta sección sería muy larga y con poco tiempo de recuperación ya que no habría una buena mini pausa. Ademas no se vería mejor en mi opinion. Creo que por el momento lo dejaré así ya que no he visto alguna complicación aquí durante los testplays que pedí.

Thanks for the mod!
etadpu
osu file format v14

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174,362,141746,2,0,P|213:323|233:273,1,110,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
220,185,142436,2,0,B|238:154|238:154|267:139|267:139|287:103,1,110,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
347,38,143125,6,0,P|389:72|398:128,1,110,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
376,210,143815,2,0,B|334:210|334:210|307:192|307:192|262:192,1,110,6|0,2:0|2:0,2:0:0:0:
182,189,144504,1,2,0:0:0:0:
113,244,144849,1,2,0:0:0:0:
118,331,145194,1,6,0:0:0:0:
256,149,150367,5,0,0:0:0:0:
256,237,150712,1,0,0:0:0:0:

[ A v a l o n ]

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[ A v a l o n ] 2016-03-23T01:21:38+00:00

Feerum wrote:
The Mania Diff's are in the current state unrankable. You need to add 2 More diffs for each key count. Means:
You need 2 more 4Key difficulty's (Easy/Normal)
You need 2 more 7Key difficulty's (Easy/Normal)
See here the osu!mania Ranking Criteria

hmmm, really strict
actually i can make a 4K NM diff for this map, but after i saw Shiirn's current diffset, it was impossible to add more difficulty from same mapper because Shiirn is only have 1 diff in this map (REJUVENATE)
Shiirn, if you willing to waiting a bit on this time, maybe i'm going to contact other good mania mappers that can help you to make 4K and 7K NM diff
and start to find a mod on this map (even i will mod the entire mania diff too this time)
and even, i will drop all of my queue list to be focused in this map, if you need

and i'm sorry for inconvenience, i really have less time to be in this game
all of my day has spent by all of my task, and i need to be focused more too in my thesis research, because i will graduate soon
at least i can fully online once in a week

i hope you understand

Shiirn

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Shiirn 2016-03-23T01:26:47+00:00

I know everyone has their own lives and everything, and I'm in no hurry to get this ranked, but the lack of modding in the mania group et al compared to the other modes is discouraging. (Taiko at least has had some showing)

I do want to rank this with a full mania set, either 4K or 7K.

[ A v a l o n ]

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[ A v a l o n ] 2016-03-23T06:59:38+00:00

okay we're sorry
i will find the GDer first, then mods

edit, i just found the GDer for 4K NM . . . Critical_Star
now searching a mapper for 7K NM

Akasha-

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Akasha- 2016-03-23T10:41:48+00:00

oh well, no need to have two more easier difficulties
you don't have to make easy diff, just need to be below of 2 stars
Your solution:
1. Just remove MX diffs, and then add normal diffs.
2. keep all of them and add normal diffs.
I'm okay with both

[ A v a l o n ]

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[ A v a l o n ] 2016-03-23T11:10:30+00:00

Kuo Kyoka wrote:
Your solution:
1. Just remove MX diffs, and then add normal diffs.
2. keep all of them and add normal diffs.
I'm okay with both

i just contact -[ AmiShici ]- and Critical_Star for make an NM diff for that
they will do it as soon as possible . . . so maybe just take the second solution
and i will lowering the star rating of my diff too later (for make the spread is safe for ranking nowadays)
when the mania mapset are totally complete, we can find mods quickly

puxtu

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puxtu 2016-03-24T11:56:32+00:00

xdd you might wanna read the rc again x)) https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Ranking_Criteria#Mapset

The difficulties in the mapset must be in a consecutive order. Easy or Normal can be skipped if the gap in the star rating spread allows it. The order can be seen in the chart below. If your mapset has two difficulties, one of them cannot be an Insane or Expert. The lowest difficulty must be below 2.0 stars. The difficulty level of Taiko-specific and osu!mania-specific difficulties must also follow a well-designed spread and might contain an Hard/Insane only, if there are standard difficulties present. In CtB, the spread evaluation is upon the BNs discretion. The difficulty spread is determined by the map's star rating. A map falls under a certain difficulty when having a specific star rating:

Mat

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Mat 2016-03-24T12:34:04+00:00

Ive asked for mods for the mania diffs but not got any replies that said yes :c

[ A v a l o n ]

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[ A v a l o n ] 2016-03-24T12:53:23+00:00

puxtu wrote:
xdd you might wanna read the rc again x)) https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Ranking_Criteria#Mapset

hmmm
if so, the current diffset was fine based on that
but we just contact other mapper to add new easier diff
so, adding new diff in this time are just fine for more better difficulty spread

now, we just waiting they make it until this weekend (as they said)
and yea . . . it's up to Shiirn for adding new diff or maybe keep current diffset after saw this

Shiirn

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Shiirn 2016-03-24T19:25:57+00:00

I'm happy with expanding the amount of difficulties on the condition that they get modded and ranked, which, considering there would be at minimum 6 different mania mappers, would limit the pool of who can mod it. I am fully aware that mania is 'kinda dead' at the moment.

Bribe, coerce, mod4mod, beg, do whatever. Remember that this is a showcase map, it is just as much the guest diff maker's map as it is mine.

All I am here to do is bring everyone's efforts into one mapset, so remember that I could use help as well. It's your map as much as mine, so treat it like so!

tl;dr adding more diffs to fit ranking criteria is ok but remember i don't know mania that well but want at least a BN to check all diffs and say it is okay before I go for overall ranking.

those

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those 2016-03-26T07:53:49+00:00

and you're still too lazy with mine lmao

lolcubes

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lolcubes 2016-03-26T19:37:40+00:00

Taiko time.

[General]
Tags are not really consistent throughout all diffs, might want to check that out.

[Raiden's Inner]

Overall: I believe it's a little too overmapped, to a point where more interesting things in the music sound really bland, since you cannot express it's intensity enough. The biggest example is 02:08:298 (89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97) - , where the clear kkddk (the final part of the pattern) should probably be separated from the rest of the notes.
Also, while the map is quite fun, some of those 1/6 are quite questionable. One example here: 02:09:849 (3,4,5,6) - what are these for?
Will list a few specifics too.
Timing sections: Volume changing timing sections (kiai is an exception) should always appear before a given note (well, or after), because the volume change will bug if you hit the note early/late, keeping the old value.
Speed changes: I felt like the beginning SV is quite weird. It's okay to have it lower, but there is almost no reason to keep it low for that long, especially since a noticeably calmer part is using a similar value (00:24:504 - 0.8, when you had that at the beginning. I'd rather suggest that you put 0.75 here, keep 0.8 at the very beginning, but instead of 0.9 you use 1.0)
00:35:539 - 00:45:884 - Well, I won't really complain, but you could have at least made this a little different. I think you know why. :p
00:48:987 (18,19,20) - I felt like this triple should just be 1/2. You are muffling the key notes with the middle one and that makes the rhythm weak in my opinion.
01:23:815 - I am actually okay with this having nothing, but 01:26:573 - felt really empty. Lacks some rhythm consistency since you did have a note here in the first part.
01:31:401 (5) - Shouldn't this be a k? I see you did some nice pattern inverting here, but it's such a strong moment in the music.
01:57:091 (11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - This was outright weird. The melody is quite subtle, and the pattern is rather difficult compared to the rest of the map, even compared to the really active parts.
02:01:574 (27,28,29,30) - Not sure if 1/6 really appropriate.
02:09:849 (3,4,5,6) - ^
02:09:332 - This whole section is too streamy for my taste. Can't really suggest what to do here, but have this in mind. I just think it doesn't fit the music that well, since the music doesn't really focus on 1/4.
02:13:125 (36,37,38) - These are quite weird, since you didn't map a really obvious 1/4 thing.
02:15:194 (55,56,57,58) - Not sure if appropriate.
02:25:884 (1) - 100% volume spinner D:

[Weff's Oni]

Overall: Pretty solid map. I am not a fan of some of the patterns, but they fit the music well in a way you used them. Just a few specifics I think I should mention.
00:16:229 (68,69,70,71,72) - This was a bit weird. I couldn't find it fitting that much, but it's not that bad. I find something like dkddk more appropriate.
00:56:918 (73,74) - This felt weird, as the rhythm would suggest a 5 note pattern. 3 note and finisher is better than 2 in my opinion, so add a note?
01:09:246 (3,4) - These are really uncomfortable, you should change these. The melody would actually imply a 1/3 double in some cases here instead, which is best seen at 01:12:004 (12,13) - (just try it at 1/3 snap and you'll hear it fits much better). Having the same thing at 1/3 and 1/4 in this section would kinda be complicated and weird, so if you can think of something else here, it might be for the best.
01:13:470 (18,19,20) - I feel kkd is more appropriate. Actually, just k d would work even better maybe.
02:03:125 (38,39,40,41,42) - I believe this is a key pattern for this part, so having it separate is probably a better idea. I mean, you should probably remove 02:03:039 (37) - , and then maybe modify the other 3 notes to something else, like a kkd maybe, since kdk kkddk kinda plays weird for this part, since you used kdk for a very specific sound which is not present here.
02:07:091 (67,68,69,70,71,72,73) - I actually think dkdkddk fits better because kats don't really focus something specific in the music. It plays better for me at least.
02:08:125 - This felt weird cause it's empty.
02:18:298 (153,154,155,156) - Why not kkddk? It fits better, and since you used kd dk in the first part of the song, you could at least add it here. Up to you though.
02:28:298 (16) - I would suggest a k here because you create a better contrast between this one and 02:28:642 (17) - since I think the other one is more important.

[Gezo's difficult muzukashii hard]

Overall: Pretty good. Rhythms used fit nicely, however, I feel it lacks some volume/speed changes. I understand why you probably don't want speed changes, but having the whole map at the same scroll rate and volume felt a bit bland. Also, some patterns used might be a little difficult but with very little modification they should be fine.
00:50:022 (125,126,127) - This might be better as k k instead of kkk. The sound in this part is very clear and there is little reason to go overboard here.
00:53:298 (147) - For simplicity reasons, this would probably better work as a d, since you would show that you mapped the snare(?) with kats only.
00:59:677 (184,185,186) - Same reason as the above, k k might be better here.
01:05:194 (216,217,218) - Here too.
01:16:056 (260) - Didn't like this as k, the contrast between it and 01:16:229 (261) - is smaller and I believe it should be bigger.
01:19:677 - This part could easily use a slowdown though. At least a volume change.
01:48:987 (346,347,348) - Felt a little weird you swapped the focus of the triples in this section (starting on a white tick I mean).
02:24:677 (512) - I actually didn't like this one, maybe it's better if you remove it. The rhythm sounds better to me that way. Plays fine either way though.

Take all of these as opinions mostly, except for the blue part for Nwolf's diff, since I believe that part is a bit dodgy to map in that way.

I should probably put a sloth as my avatar, considering how long it takes me to get to a mapset.

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Shiirn

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Shiirn 2016-03-26T20:56:57+00:00

those wrote:
and you're still too lazy with mine lmao

the thing is i don't really want yours

Tags will be sorted out when all the difficulties are. Ath this rate it'd be easier to just do it all at once during actual ranking.

grumd

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grumd 2016-03-26T21:30:00+00:00

rejuve-something
00:03:125 (1) - there's really no need to slow these 3/4s down. i don't feel like the music is slower/calmer/different here than on the 1/2 slider. they're totally a part of the same music section and they would feel better at the same slider speed. additionally, it makes it more clear that the rhythm is 3/4 on that slider
same for other things like this one
00:04:504 (1,2) - two 1/8s here, 00:06:229 (2,3) - circle and 1/8 here, 00:08:987 (2,3) - circle and 1/8 here too.
i believe these should be consistent, i couldn't find a difference in the music
00:10:280 (2) - you better delete this one, it clearly is out of place considering how louder are the other blue tick notes here (00:10:625 (4) - like this)
00:10:711 - this is 0.9x (i mean slider speed), but next is 00:11:056 - 1.1x while the first one is actually at a higher pitch. i believe you'd want to make 00:10:711 - faster or the second one slower
00:12:263 (4,5,6) - this spacing is actually kinda too big, the music and map was calming down from 00:10:711 - to 00:13:470 - so it makes sense to use low spacing here too
00:20:539 - there are a few places where you end sliders on really hard kicks/notes. this way player has to start the stream from blue tick and it doesn't feel too good. i'd replace this slider with two circles or something, just to emphasize the beat at the red tick
00:21:315 (2,3) - this is really kinda overmapped, i don't hear almost anything in the music here. use some kind of long slider, calm rhythm instead like here 00:22:436 (1) -
00:24:504 (1,2,1,2) - lmao i just hate this shit, never understood what flow this gives you. just personal opinion heh
00:32:091 (1) - eh not symmetrical #nazimod
00:33:815 (3) - cmon, spacing to the next is 0.67x, that's bullshit. you'd wanna maybe ctrlg it? or just place somewhere else for proper spacing
00:50:711 (1) - i'd honestly place this somewhere else, i don't really like clutter and a lot of overlaps. clean mapping ftw
00:56:056 (4,1) - the spacing between these two is too small, feels like an antijump, i'd change the placement
00:56:229 (1,2,1,2) - imo that (1,1) should be faster than the other two because they actually are placed on very loud notes in the music, while 2,2 sliders are just kicks
01:06:573 (1,2,3,4,5) - i know this map is supposed to be hard, but this pattern is just annoying to follow. almost impossible with a mouse too. it's just too fast but edgy. idk you can leave it, but if you wanna make a fun experience, make it smooth
01:23:815 (4,5) - 1/2 notes after a 1/3 section. you have to either make it super big spacing, or just use a slider instead of two notes
01:24:504 (1,2) - better to do the same here
01:35:539 (1,2,3,4) - 100% same here
01:51:315 (2,3) - for some reason i'd like to see a stack here. maybe that's because of the 1/4 jump idk. do what you want
02:03:297 (2,3,4) - lol
02:04:504 (1) - use the same spacing as 02:04:590 (2,3,4,5) - ?
02:08:642 (1,2,3,4,5) - biblethump
02:10:022 (1,2,3,4) - imo such patterns are boring as fuck. you basically just click 1/2 at a really close spacing. that's so lame to me, idk. i feel like 1/4 sliderstreams need to use jumps all the time, otherwise it's so boring to play
02:18:900 (4,1) - here use the same spacing as here 02:18:642 (1,2,3) - (probably x:8 y:158)
02:24:160 (1,2,3,4,5) - this is a really huge contrast to the previous streams starting from 02:20:367 (1) -
i think you should make previous streams a lot faster to match this increased spacing. right now it's 0.7x -> 0.9x -> 1.8x
would be a lot better to do something like 0.8x -> 1.2x -> 1.6-1.8x
well, keep in mind that the slider speed changes there too, so these numbers are not completely relevant, but my main point is that first streams just do not keep up with the last stream pace. make them faster too

_Zenith

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_Zenith 2016-03-27T08:22:40+00:00

ACCEPTED MOD
Requested by [ A v a l o n ], From Apple's 4K queue!
Warak - REANIMATE

Col: 1|2|3|4

[General]
Title: OK!
Artist: OK!
Disabled countdown: OK!
Widescreen support: Maybe... OK!
Hitsound: NO!
MP3 Quality: 192kbps OK!

[Avalon's 4K HD]
00:38:298 (38298|2,38384|1,38470|0) - Replace them to a long note? They sounds like a sound but not triple sound
00:55:280 (55280|2,55367|1,55453|0) - Actually i think there's the same sound but you can re-pattern like 1414 or 1212 something (ehh)
Or make 00:55:194 (55194|3,55280|2) - These to jack,00:55:367 (55367|1,55453|0) - These to another col jack, Then you can have two groups of jack.
00:56:918 Maybe you can add a note at here.
00:57:608 (57608|3,57608|2,57608|1) - Hmm, Maybe delete a note?
01:09:160 (69160|2) - Here sounds nothing. Or make this note to ln from here to 01:09:332
01:11:918 (71918|1) - Here sounds nothing actually i think.
01:30:826 (90826|2,90941|1,91056|2) - These i guess is the same sound. So jack?
02:08:642 Add one more note. Because here is a main melody.
02:15:367 (135367|0,135367|1) - One note enough?

~~Maybe i will check another 4K diff.... I'm not sure...~~

[Mat's 4K MX]
General:
Sounds like no hitsound. Please add later.
50% Volume are really annoying with no hitsound. Change it to 40% or lower.

00:30:711 (30711|0,30711|1) - This sound is sounds have a little heavy compare 00:31:401 (31401|2,31401|3) - This one.
00:31:401 (31401|3,31401|2) - So i guess this is one note enough. You do that before.
00:38:556 (38556|0,38729|2) - I think those notes are not following sound. Delete?
00:38:901 (38901|1) - ^
00:49:677 (49677|2,49849|2,50022|2,50194|2,50367|2,50539|2) - Those lns need pay attention on balance. You can make 3~4 jacks each jack group.
00:52:780 (52780|3,52867|3,52953|0) - They are same sound. You do that before. Maybe you need re-arrange.
00:52:953 (52953|1,53125|2) - And i think there's ln can replaced by note.
00:55:280 (55280|0,55367|2,55453|3) - Change them to ln. you do that before and here you need pay attention on balance. Maybe you need re-arrange.
00:54:160 - 00:55:194 Here looks like really uncomfortable to play. You maybe need re-arrange for playability.
00:57:780 (57780|0) - Here sounds nothing.
00:58:987 (58987|3,59160|3,59332|3,59504|3,59677|3,59849|3) - i guess here is not balance. You can make 2~3 jacks each jack group
01:34:160 - 01:35:108 So many double notes on same col. Maybe you need re-arrange to keep them balance or something. Because that is MX.
02:21:056 (141056|0) - Add a note here.

Added MX's mod.

Last edited by _Zenith 2016-04-01T14:17:38+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Raiden

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Raiden 2016-03-27T08:45:22+00:00

lolcubes wrote:
Taiko time.

[General]
Tags are not really consistent throughout all diffs, might want to check that out.

[Raiden's Inner]
Overall: I believe it's a little too overmapped, to a point where more interesting things in the music sound really bland, since you cannot express it's intensity enough. The biggest example is 02:08:298 (89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97) - , where the clear kkddk (the final part of the pattern) should probably be separated from the rest of the notes.
Also, while the map is quite fun, some of those 1/6 are quite questionable. One example here: 02:09:849 (3,4,5,6) - what are these for?
Will list a few specifics too.
Timing sections: Volume changing timing sections (kiai is an exception) should always appear before a given note (well, or after), because the volume change will bug if you hit the note early/late, keeping the old value.
Speed changes: I felt like the beginning SV is quite weird. It's okay to have it lower, but there is almost no reason to keep it low for that long, especially since a noticeably calmer part is using a similar value (00:24:504 - 0.8, when you had that at the beginning. I'd rather suggest that you put 0.75 here, keep 0.8 at the very beginning, but instead of 0.9 you use 1.0)
00:35:539 - 00:45:884 - Well, I won't really complain, but you could have at least made this a little different. I think you know why. :p ╭( ･ㅂ･)و╭( ･ㅂ･)و╭( ･ㅂ･)و╭( ･ㅂ･)و╭( ･ㅂ･)و╭( ･ㅂ･)و
00:48:987 (18,19,20) - I felt like this triple should just be 1/2. You are muffling the key notes with the middle one and that makes the rhythm weak in my opinion.
01:23:815 - I am actually okay with this having nothing, but 01:26:573 - felt really empty. Lacks some rhythm consistency since you did have a note here in the first part.
01:31:401 (5) - Shouldn't this be a k? I see you did some nice pattern inverting here, but it's such a strong moment in the music.
01:57:091 (11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - This was outright weird. The melody is quite subtle, and the pattern is rather difficult compared to the rest of the map, even compared to the really active parts.
02:01:574 (27,28,29,30) - Not sure if 1/6 really appropriate. there's a potent scratch on the background
02:09:849 (3,4,5,6) - ^
02:09:332 - This whole section is too streamy for my taste. Can't really suggest what to do here, but have this in mind. I just think it doesn't fit the music that well, since the music doesn't really focus on 1/4.
02:13:125 (36,37,38) - These are quite weird, since you didn't map a really obvious 1/4 thing.
02:15:194 (55,56,57,58) - Not sure if appropriate.
02:25:884 (1) - 100% volume spinner D:
Take all of these as opinions mostly, except for the blue part for Nwolf's diff, since I believe that part is a bit dodgy to map in that way.

I should probably put a sloth as my avatar, considering how long it takes me to get to a mapset.

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I toned down most streams to make patterns stand more themselves, let's see if it's good now. (also fixed everything except the mentioned in blue)

http://puu.sh/nVxTs.zip

...

SPOILER

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Shiirn

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Topic Starter

Shiirn 2016-03-28T14:27:48+00:00

grumd wrote:
rejuve-something
00:03:125 (1) - there's really no need to slow these 3/4s down. i don't feel like the music is slower/calmer/different here than on the 1/2 slider. they're totally a part of the same music section and they would feel better at the same slider speed. additionally, it makes it more clear that the rhythm is 3/4 on that slider
same for other things like this one The longer hold with the same overall instrument sound feels to me... well, it's like. Same sound, one is lower pitched but a bit longer -> same length slider for both, one slower.
00:04:504 (1,2) - two 1/8s here, 00:06:229 (2,3) - circle and 1/8 here, 00:08:987 (2,3) - circle and 1/8 here too.
i believe these should be consistent, i couldn't find a difference in the music Different noises, different 1/8s. but whatever, changed the first one.
00:10:280 (2) - you better delete this one, it clearly is out of place considering how louder are the other blue tick notes here (00:10:625 (4) - like this) fine
00:10:711 - this is 0.9x (i mean slider speed), but next is 00:11:056 - 1.1x while the first one is actually at a higher pitch. i believe you'd want to make 00:10:711 - faster or the second one slower changed to 1.1/1.0. Now they decrease.
00:12:263 (4,5,6) - this spacing is actually kinda too big, the music and map was calming down from 00:10:711 - to 00:13:470 - so it makes sense to use low spacing here too k
00:20:539 - there are a few places where you end sliders on really hard kicks/notes. this way player has to start the stream from blue tick and it doesn't feel too good. i'd replace this slider with two circles or something, just to emphasize the beat at the red tick
00:21:315 (2,3) - this is really kinda overmapped, i don't hear almost anything in the music here. use some kind of long slider, calm rhythm instead like here 00:22:436 (1) - deleted
00:24:504 (1,2,1,2) - lmao i just hate this shit, never understood what flow this gives you. just personal opinion heh have this fucking disgusting meta's disgusting flow
00:32:091 (1) - eh not symmetrical #nazimod close enough
00:33:815 (3) - cmon, spacing to the next is 0.67x, that's bullshit. you'd wanna maybe ctrlg it? or just place somewhere else for proper spacing stuff
00:50:711 (1) - i'd honestly place this somewhere else, i don't really like clutter and a lot of overlaps. clean mapping ftw Sometimes it's intentional to have things look different and weird. It's almost as if mapping can be more than just robotic beat placement.
00:56:056 (4,1) - the spacing between these two is too small, feels like an antijump, i'd change the placement k
00:56:229 (1,2,1,2) - imo that (1,1) should be faster than the other two because they actually are placed on very loud notes in the music, while 2,2 sliders are just kicks I actually really like how this is. Kicks swapping quickly over into strong combination bass + trumpets just feels right for the music here.
01:06:573 (1,2,3,4,5) - i know this map is supposed to be hard, but this pattern is just annoying to follow. almost impossible with a mouse too. it's just too fast but edgy. idk you can leave it, but if you wanna make a fun experience, make it smooth The map isn't "supposed to be hard". It's as hard as I feel the music can be. This ministream's movement plays quite well and I've gotten lots of feedback on these five notes alone and they were overwhelmingly positive, although also mostly "maybe just a bit overkill" so i'll decrease the spacing a bit. Also, fuck everything needing to be smooth.
01:23:815 (4,5) - 1/2 notes after a 1/3 section. you have to either make it super big spacing, or just use a slider instead of two notes
01:24:504 (1,2) - better to do the same here
01:35:539 (1,2,3,4) - 100% same here
01:51:315 (2,3) - for some reason i'd like to see a stack here. maybe that's because of the 1/4 jump idk. do what you want
02:03:297 (2,3,4) - lol You should have seen the first version. It was a bigger square with a triple. This fits the square spacing and the bluetick circle is palced where players should be moving their cursor.
02:04:504 (1) - use the same spacing as 02:04:590 (2,3,4,5) - ? omg nazi
02:08:642 (1,2,3,4,5) - biblethump just unleash your inner bikko and play this as a straight horizontal line
02:10:022 (1,2,3,4) - imo such patterns are boring as fuck. you basically just click 1/2 at a really close spacing. that's so lame to me, idk. i feel like 1/4 sliderstreams need to use jumps all the time, otherwise it's so boring to play you asked for it
02:18:900 (4,1) - here use the same spacing as here 02:18:642 (1,2,3) - (probably x:8 y:158)
02:24:160 (1,2,3,4,5) - this is a really huge contrast to the previous streams starting from 02:20:367 (1) -
i think you should make previous streams a lot faster to match this increased spacing. right now it's 0.7x -> 0.9x -> 1.8x
would be a lot better to do something like 0.8x -> 1.2x -> 1.6-1.8x
well, keep in mind that the slider speed changes there too, so these numbers are not completely relevant, but my main point is that first streams just do not keep up with the last stream pace. make them faster too It was easy enough to shrink that particular stream just a bit to make it a somewhat linear increase in spacing up until the final stream.

Updated other difficulties and added NMs for 4k and 7k. IS THIS OKAY NOW?

DoNotMess

485 posts

Joined May 2012

DoNotMess 2016-03-28T15:58:11+00:00

as requested from -[AmiShici] i will mod the hardest 4k diff in this mapset then

1|2|3|4

Mat's 4K MX

01:00:884 (60884|0) - make this ln to 01:01:056 - for melody
01:04:160 - add 1 here for snare
01:21:171 (81171|1,81229|3,81229|2,81286|1) - this is really awkward for me. i know u are trying to map the kick but i suggest to remove it
02:04:849 - add 4 here
02:06:229 (126229|0) - move to 2 for melody and balance
02:07:349 (127349|1) - as this is really dense, i suggest u remove this because it's not so loud
02:20:539 (140539|0) - move to 2 for melody

the other looks nice XD i hope this help

Yuzeyun

7,622 posts

Joined September 2010

Yuzeyun 2016-03-28T16:38:13+00:00

back hurts and tomorrows midterm i wouldnt know of if it wasnt for totoro so hold this im answering thursday

Nwolf

2,604 posts

Joined September 2012

Nwolf 2016-03-29T11:32:38+00:00

lolcubes wrote:
Taiko time.

[Weff's Oni]
Overall: Pretty solid map. I am not a fan of some of the patterns, but they fit the music well in a way you used them. Just a few specifics I think I should mention.
00:16:229 (68,69,70,71,72) - This was a bit weird. I couldn't find it fitting that much, but it's not that bad. I find something like dkddk more appropriate. Changed into dkddd so it still mirrors 00:18:987 (83,84,85,86,87) -
00:56:918 (73,74) - This felt weird, as the rhythm would suggest a 5 note pattern. 3 note and finisher is better than 2 in my opinion, so add a note? added note
01:09:246 (3,4) - These are really uncomfortable, you should change these. The melody would actually imply a 1/3 double in some cases here instead, which is best seen at 01:12:004 (12,13) - (just try it at 1/3 snap and you'll hear it fits much better). Having the same thing at 1/3 and 1/4 in this section would kinda be complicated and weird, so if you can think of something else here, it might be for the best. Changed all 1/3s to 1/3, doesn't even play bad with 1/2 together
01:13:470 (18,19,20) - I feel kkd is more appropriate. Actually, just k d would work even better maybe. kkd it is
02:03:125 (38,39,40,41,42) - I believe this is a key pattern for this part, so having it separate is probably a better idea. I mean, you should probably remove 02:03:039 (37) - , and then maybe modify the other 3 notes to something else, like a kkd maybe, since kdk kkddk kinda plays weird for this part, since you used kdk for a very specific sound which is not present here. kkddk only 1/4 here now
02:07:091 (67,68,69,70,71,72,73) - I actually think dkdkddk fits better because kats don't really focus something specific in the music. It plays better for me at least. changed
02:08:125 - This felt weird cause it's empty. added don
02:18:298 (153,154,155,156) - Why not kkddk? It fits better, and since you used kd dk in the first part of the song, you could at least add it here. Up to you though. added in both parts
02:28:298 (16) - I would suggest a k here because you create a better contrast between this one and 02:28:642 (17) - since I think the other one is more important. changed too
I should probably put a sloth as my avatar, considering how long it takes me to get to a mapset. use Flash from Zootopia *hides*

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[ A v a l o n ]

1,981 posts

Joined July 2014

[ A v a l o n ] 2016-03-30T15:45:38+00:00

-[Apple]- wrote:
[Avalon's 4K HD]
00:38:298 (38298|2,38384|1,38470|0) - Replace them to a long note? They sounds like a sound but not triple sound i only use LN for vocal and somewhat fuzzy sound this time
00:55:280 (55280|2,55367|1,55453|0) - Actually i think there's the same sound but you can re-pattern like 1414 or 1212 something (ehh) i don't want to make it harder, since the long jacks are waiting after this part xD but rearranged some
Or make 00:55:194 (55194|3,55280|2) - These to jack,00:55:367 (55367|1,55453|0) - These to another col jack, Then you can have two groups of jack.
00:56:918 Maybe you can add a note at here. hmm, seems i already re-arranged it
00:57:608 (57608|3,57608|2,57608|1) - Hmm, Maybe delete a note? OK
01:09:160 (69160|2) - Here sounds nothing. Or make this note to ln from here to 01:09:332 ups, my bad . . . resnapped
01:11:918 (71918|1) - Here sounds nothing actually i think. same ^
01:30:826 (90826|2,90941|1,91056|2) - These i guess is the same sound. So jack? yea, it's same sound, but i feels this time are not so good to give a jack i think
02:08:642 Add one more note. Because here is a main melody. OK
02:15:367 (135367|0,135367|1) - One note enough? Okay, good

Maybe i will check another 4K diff.... I'm not sure...

Thanks Apple for mod

Update ==> http://puu.sh/nZxvq/760cf69e82.rar

Feerum

osu! Alumni

2,042 posts

Joined August 2014

Feerum 2016-04-01T01:19:26+00:00

Random Mod

Column: | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 |
======================================================
Red means Unrankable stuff
Big means Important stuff
Normal are Suggestions
// means comments
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Hello Shiirn and all Mania guys.
Since it's still kinda hard for all to find mods in mania i decided to mod them a bit.

General

Artist: Right
Title: Right
Source: Right
Tags: There's a Tag conflict with: Blocko's 7K HD
AiMod: Like said above
Background: Right.
BPM/Offset: Right
Other: Disable Widescreen Support in: Gezo's Muzukashii, Nwolf's Oni, ZiRoX's Platter, CS' 4K NM, Avalon's 4K HD, Mat's 4K MX, KK's 7K MX

CS' 4K NM

00:06:573 (6573|2) - Move this to 4 and add another LN from 00:06:918 - to 00:07:263 - . It's like 00:07:263 (7263|0,7608|1) - and the Long LN alone feels really strange.
Since you follow pretty clear the music here i highly recommend to remove 00:08:815 (8815|0) - and make instead 00:08:642 (8642|3) - to a 1/1 Beat LN. Follows much better the music and this single note on the red beat doesn't really feel like it fit here.
00:28:470 (28470|0) - Recommend to make this to a Normal note. The vocal is here really short and you doesn't used anywhere here such short LN's. The Vocal for 00:28:642 (28642|3) - is even longer but making this to LN would also be weird, that's why i recommend to make here two normal notes.
00:46:918 - The space here feels kinda.. hm.. idk. It feels like something is missing.
Maybe you like this:

Screen

01:05:711 (65711|3) - This note belongs actually still to 01:04:849 (64849|0,65022|2,65194|0,65367|2,65539|0) - try to get it on col 3.
01:25:194 (85194|0,85194|1) - Why the chord here? Breaks the consistency. The Sound is same like 01:22:436 (82436|0) - .
01:59:677 (119677|1,119677|0) - Somehow it doesn't feel like the chord is needed here. You have mapped the snare with your chords, consistent to the end. I mean i can hear the louder sound here but it doesn't feel like you should emphasize it with a chord.
02:16:229 (136229|2) - Remove, no snare here, only kick.
02:23:470 - Mh.. feels pretty empty here. Suddenly a break..

Don't forget to Hitsound your diff

Shici's 7K NM

Please reduce the volume of the timing point.
00:06:832 (6832|4,6918|2) - Since you mapped these 1/4 sounds i highly recommend to take also 00:07:522 - . Or remove the 1/4. Up to you. Since you didn't map the later 1/4 too i recommend to delete the 1/4.
00:51:746 - Please add here something. At least one note. You have here such a loud snare drum that you keep empty but you mapped here such a quiet hihat 01:01:573 (61573|3) - ?
00:55:194 (55194|3,55367|3) - This double doesn't really feel like it fit here You have here of course sound you could jack but the sound is 1/4. It just feels wrong while playing. My suggestion would be to make a LN from 00:55:194 - to 00:55:539 - and take ONLY the 1/2 sound as jacks. Feels way better.
00:56:229 (56229|5,56229|6,56573|1,56573|0,56918|6,56918|5,57263|0,57263|1) - Good idea, but i recommend to move 00:56:918 (56918|6,56918|5,57263|1,57263|0) - to a different column since the pitch also change. Why not move 00:56:918 (56918|6,56918|5) - one to the left and 00:57:263 (57263|0,57263|1) - one to the right?
00:59:160 (59160|3,59332|1,59504|1,59677|5,59849|5,60022|2,60194|4) - While the pattern are good chosen i think you placed them wrong.
Let me explain:
You should jack 00:59:160 (59160|3,59332|1) - and 00:59:504 (59504|1,59677|5) - and keep 00:59:849 (59849|5,60022|2,60194|4) - for the 3 drum sounds you have in the background.
As example it could look like this:

Screen

01:05:194 (65194|4,65367|6) - CTRL + G for some variety.
01:09:332 (69332|6,69504|6,69677|6,69849|6,70022|6) -
01:14:849 (74849|0,75022|0,75194|0,75367|0,75539|0) - I highly recommend to NOT put here 5 Noted Jacks! Of course it fit good to the song you shouldn't forget this is still a Normal difficult. To add such "heavy" jacks into a normal will kill a lot of new player. Normals are still for player that don't have much experience in Mania and still learning the mode!
01:19:677 (79677|2,80367|1) - Please check the ending of these LN's i'm 100% sure this should NOT be like this. You let LN's end in a NM on a 1/8 beat thats Wrong Snapped
01:23:125 (83125|5) - Wrong Snapped too
01:32:048 (92048|0) - Wrong Snapped. Should start 01:32:091 -
01:32:780 (92780|2) - Here too
01:34:117 (94117|5) - Also here
Did you followed Kuo's pattern here? It seems so since he had the same LN endings. You shouldn't do that in a NM
02:05:539 - Same thing like i mentioned at the beginning. Following pattern should be jacked:
02:05:539 (125539|6,125711|4) -
02:05:884 (125884|4,126056|2) -
02:06:229 (126229|2,126401|4) -
02:07:608 (127608|2,127780|2) - No sound for jack

Don't forget to hitsound your diff

Avalon's 4K HD

Please reduce the hitsound volume of the timing point
00:12:349 (12349|2,12436|1) - you could ctrl + g for pitch and variety
00:50:194 (50194|2) - Recommend to move this to 4, really. A chord on the same hand where you have long jacks plays just bad.
00:53:298 (53298|1,53298|3) - Make to normal note, see 00:47:091 (47091|2) - . There is no additional sound.
00:59:849 (59849|2,60022|1,60194|2,60367|1) - CTRL + G for much better play.
01:18:298 (78298|3) - The long sound from this note changes the pitch very audible 01:18:987 - . Consider to make from here a other LN to 01:19:677 - . See 02:19:677 -
02:00:539 (120539|2) - would be cool when you can get this note on the other hand.
02:09:849 (129849|3,129849|1) - chord for hihat? i don't think this fits. The sound you follow here with your jumps starts 02:10:022 - .
02:15:367 (135367|0,135367|1) - Exactly the same thing like above.

Thats all
Don't forget to hitsound your diff.

Blocko's 7K HD

Nothing to mention since i mod this already once.
But Blocko don't forget to hitsound your diff too.

Mat's 4K MX

01:30:711 - i think to use chords here for the 1/3 is way to overdone. I highly recommend to reduce it to single notes.
01:44:504 (104504|3,104677|1,104763|2,104849|0,104936|3,105022|0) - Recommend to ctrl + g here and then rearrange a bit. Actually just 01:44:418 (104418|2,104504|3) - should be side by side because they have totally different sounds.
01:47:177 (107177|1,107263|2) - same thing.
01:59:677 (119677|2,119849|2) - Shouldn't be jacked, different sounds.
02:10:884 (130884|3) - should be normal note.
thats acutally everything because i don't really know how to mod .. this.
Don't forget to hitsound your diff.

KK's 7K MX

00:01:056 (1056|1) - Recommend to move LN beginn to 00:01:229 - like in Blocko's diff.
00:21:832 (21832|3) - Ghost Note. Remove. The 1/4 begins 00:21:918 - and no there is no other sound.
00:27:263 - Why you jacked all1/2 notes here but not 00:24:504 - ? . Actually you did it before right because there's a slightly pitch change. You should listen closely and try to arrange a bit. Especially a 9 Noted Jack (including LN in this) on the Space that is for most of the player most hardest to play.
00:38:039 (38039|2) - Can't hear any sound here, it's just an echo of 00:37:953 (37953|6) -
00:39:936 (39936|4) - same like above here is no sound
00:40:625 (40625|1) - Yeah same. No sound.
00:40:970 (40970|5) - No Sound
Actually please recheck the whole part. It seems you added randomly 1/4.
00:58:987 (58987|3) - Should be on other column because other sound than all jacks.
01:14:677 (74677|2) - What you follow with this? Trumpet starts 01:14:763 - and an other long sound starts 01:14:504 - . But here, nothing.
01:19:677 (79677|2,80367|1) - Snap these LN endings to the beginn of the next one. Where these end is absolute nothing and you will have snap conflict with other diffs.
01:22:436 (82436|4,83125|5) - same thing
Make it like you did it from here 01:27:953 - .
01:48:729 (108729|6) - Ghost Note.
01:50:108 (110108|2) - Ghost Note.
01:59:677 (119677|3) - Should be on other column, the sound doesn't fit with other Jacks.
02:10:884 (130884|2,131056|2,131229|2) - What you follow here? 02:10:022 (130022|3,130194|3,130367|3,130539|5,130711|2) - These i can understand, they have audible short sounds but the other 3 doesn't have the sound.
02:16:401 (136401|2,136573|2,136746|2) - Same thing here. If you try to catch the hihat with that, it doesn't really fit.

Please do not forget to hitsound your diff

Ok thats all. Sorry for a bit lazy mod here.
To all: Hitsound your diffs. Don't wait for someone else do it for you

For Shiirn:

Click

Still delayed hitsounds in. I thought i gave you all fixed:

Here's the fix: click

Yuzeyun

7,622 posts

Joined September 2010

Yuzeyun 2016-04-01T22:25:25+00:00

lolcubes wrote:
[Gezo's ╭( ･ㅂ･)و]
Overall: Pretty good. Rhythms used fit nicely, however, I feel it lacks some volume/speed changes. I understand why you probably don't want speed changes, but having the whole map at the same scroll rate and volume felt a bit bland. Also, some patterns used might be a little difficult but with very little modification they should be fine. meh, volume changes don't quite work on this song. ITS LOUD EVERYWHERE (except the end)
00:50:022 (125,126,127) - This might be better as k k instead of kkk. The sound in this part is very clear and there is little reason to go overboard here. I've slightly modified the don/kat rhythm to avoid having a pretty bland part
00:53:298 (147) - For simplicity reasons, this would probably better work as a d, since you would show that you mapped the snare(?) with kats only. there's a fairly high-pitched clear sound here, explaining the kat. also, changing to don wouldn't change the simplicity by lots
00:59:677 (184,185,186) - Same reason as the above, k k might be better here.
01:05:194 (216,217,218) - Here too. I'd rather keep these ones, as they will make the part feel less bland. and who doesn't like some groovy patterns
01:16:056 (260) - Didn't like this as k, the contrast between it and 01:16:229 (261) - is smaller and I believe it should be bigger. alright
01:19:677 - This part could easily use a slowdown though. At least a volume change. done the 1st, the second didn't work well, the song is calmer but still pretty loud. next part has a volume change
01:48:987 (346,347,348) - Felt a little weird you swapped the focus of the triples in this section (starting on a white tick I mean). yes it will sound weird, but the song itself changes the focus sooooo
02:24:677 (512) - I actually didn't like this one, maybe it's better if you remove it. The rhythm sounds better to me that way. Plays fine either way though. yeah feels better this way
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[ A v a l o n ]

1,981 posts

Joined July 2014

[ A v a l o n ] 2016-04-02T10:05:46+00:00

Feerum wrote:
Random Mod

Column: | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 |
======================================================
Red means Unrankable stuff
Big means Important stuff
Normal are Suggestions
// means comments
======================================================
Avalon's 4K HD
Please reduce the hitsound volume of the timing point okay
00:12:349 (12349|2,12436|1) - you could ctrl + g for pitch and variety i feel it's not really a big issue, since it plays very well . . . i keep then
00:50:194 (50194|2) - Recommend to move this to 4, really. A chord on the same hand where you have long jacks plays just bad. re-arranged this time
00:53:298 (53298|1,53298|3) - Make to normal note, see 00:47:091 (47091|2) - . There is no additional sound. done
00:59:849 (59849|2,60022|1,60194|2,60367|1) - CTRL + G for much better play. i use this kind of pattern for kick 00:59:849 - and this for clap 01:00:022 - if i change that, it just feels not fit with instrument itself
01:18:298 (78298|3) - The long sound from this note changes the pitch very audible 01:18:987 - . Consider to make from here a other LN to 01:19:677 - . See 02:19:677 - okay i'm drunk xD
02:00:539 (120539|2) - would be cool when you can get this note on the other hand. keep
02:09:849 (129849|3,129849|1) - chord for hihat? i don't think this fits. The sound you follow here with your jumps starts 02:10:022 - . alright, re-arranged
02:15:367 (135367|0,135367|1) - Exactly the same thing like above. same ^

Thats all
Don't forget to hitsound your diff. yea i know xD will do it later

Thanks for mod feerum

Update ==> http://puu.sh/o3a6M/b36c3cc50c.rar

ZiRoX

Elite Mapper

1,019 posts

Joined November 2009

ZiRoX 2016-04-04T01:56:47+00:00

Absolute Zero wrote:
S N A P P I N G P R A C T I C E B O Y Z

[Roxy's Platter]
00:09:332 (1,2,3) - These snaps are slightly uncomfortable- I would lower the distance even more, since they're not expected at the introduction for a platter player. Reduced them a bit
00:49:849 (2,3,4,5,6) - Ehhhhh this pattern is a little strange compared to the longer back-forth before- I would suggest more of a S or Z-shaped pattern rather than a smaller back-forth. The small back and forth fits perfectly with the synth + drum sounds. It's small because I've used larger back and forths on other Platters and it was a DQ issue (Ende, I'm looking at you)
00:49:849 (2,3,4,5,6)
01:07:953 (1) - Make this end on 01:08:470 instead of a snap? You do this on the melody at 01:20:367 (2). If you want to take it even further, end 01:07:263 (1) on 01:07:780. The parts are different in intensity, and there's the piano sound on the 01:20:367 - variant which isn't present on the Kiai one.
01:29:332 (3,4) - Why not also make these triplets? The music is the exact same pattern as (1,2) in the next combo. This is meant to be a transition between the 2/1 spacing and the 1/3 ones.
01:38:297 (3) - Placing these vertically is a little uncomfortable and strange after all the sideways motion in the section before. Slant them slightly more? I tried making them a bit more horizontal and in my opinion the movement between 01:38:297 (3,4) - became a bit hard to play, so I'm keeping it as it is now.
01:49:246 (7,8) - I was expecting a little bit more of a distance, since the whole phrase is leading up to (8).Done
01:57:263 (1,2,3) - The distancing could be a little larger here, considering it's the build-up...The last two notes require dashing, that feels enough for me
02:07:781 (4,5) - Define the dash a little more by moving (4) to around x=360? Done
02:07:953 (1,1) - Kinda strange how one's a snap and the other isn't. Make this more uniform by making both end on the blue tick or both end on the red tick? Fixed to make it consistent with my thinking (Kiai uses 1/4 snaps, normal parts don't)
02:28:642 (1,2,3) - The whistle here is a little strong for the music that sounds and overpowers it a little bit. Only keep the whistle on (4,5)? Will poke JBH about this

Also applied Ascendance's thing.

Platter

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Shiirn

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Shiirn 2016-04-06T04:13:05+00:00

Updates gone out. screw updating the topic for a while lol

-[ AmiShici ]-

-[ AmiShici ]- 2016-04-13T02:08:29+00:00

Feerum wrote:
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Hello Shiirn and all Mania guys.
Since it's still kinda hard for all to find mods in mania i decided to mod them a bit.
General

Artist: Right
Title: Right
Source: Right
Tags: There's a Tag conflict with: Blocko's 7K HD
AiMod: Like said above
Background: Right.
BPM/Offset: Right
Other: Disable Widescreen Support in: Gezo's Muzukashii, Nwolf's Oni, ZiRoX's Platter, CS' 4K NM, Avalon's 4K HD, Mat's 4K MX, KK's 7K MX

Shici's 7K NM
Please reduce the volume of the timing point.
00:06:832 (6832|4,6918|2) - Since you mapped these 1/4 sounds i highly recommend to take also 00:07:522 - . Or remove the 1/4. Up to you. Since you didn't map the later 1/4 too i recommend to delete the 1/4. // ok
00:51:746 - Please add here something. At least one note. You have here such a loud snare drum that you keep empty but you mapped here such a quiet hihat 01:01:573 (61573|3) - ? //actually i just follow synth but fixed
00:55:194 (55194|3,55367|3) - This double doesn't really feel like it fit here You have here of course sound you could jack but the sound is 1/4. It just feels wrong while playing. My suggestion would be to make a LN from 00:55:194 - to 00:55:539 - and take ONLY the 1/2 sound as jacks. Feels way better. // nice
00:56:229 (56229|5,56229|6,56573|1,56573|0,56918|6,56918|5,57263|0,57263|1) - Good idea, but i recommend to move 00:56:918 (56918|6,56918|5,57263|1,57263|0) - to a different column since the pitch also change. Why not move 00:56:918 (56918|6,56918|5) - one to the left and 00:57:263 (57263|0,57263|1) - one to the right? // ok
00:59:160 (59160|3,59332|1,59504|1,59677|5,59849|5,60022|2,60194|4) - While the pattern are good chosen i think you placed them wrong.
Let me explain:
You should jack 00:59:160 (59160|3,59332|1) - and 00:59:504 (59504|1,59677|5) - and keep 00:59:849 (59849|5,60022|2,60194|4) - for the 3 drum sounds you have in the background.
As example it could look like this: // ok
Screen
01:05:194 (65194|4,65367|6) - CTRL + G for some variety. //ok
01:09:332 (69332|6,69504|6,69677|6,69849|6,70022|6) -
01:14:849 (74849|0,75022|0,75194|0,75367|0,75539|0) - I highly recommend to NOT put here 5 Noted Jacks! Of course it fit good to the song you shouldn't forget this is still a Normal difficult. To add such "heavy" jacks into a normal will kill a lot of new player. Normals are still for player that don't have much experience in Mania and still learning the mode! //ok
01:19:677 (79677|2,80367|1) - Please check the ending of these LN's i'm 100% sure this should NOT be like this. You let LN's end in a NM on a 1/8 beat thats Wrong Snapped
01:23:125 (83125|5) - Wrong Snapped too
01:32:048 (92048|0) - Wrong Snapped. Should start 01:32:091 -
01:32:780 (92780|2) - Here too
01:34:117 (94117|5) - Also here// ^RIP edit :v okay fix
Did you followed Kuo's pattern here? It seems so since he had the same LN endings. You shouldn't do that in a NM // nope, actually requester my map edit it o.o *not owner map
02:05:539 - Same thing like i mentioned at the beginning. Following pattern should be jacked:
02:05:539 (125539|6,125711|4) -
02:05:884 (125884|4,126056|2) -
02:06:229 (126229|2,126401|4) -
02:07:608 (127608|2,127780|2) - No sound for jack // ok

Don't forget to hitsound your diff

Ok thats all. Sorry for a bit lazy mod here.
To all: Hitsound your diffs. Don't wait for someone else do it for you

For Shiirn:
Click
Still delayed hitsounds in. I thought i gave you all fixed:

Here's the fix: click

thanks for mod

updated

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: REANIMATE.mp3
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Shiirn

2,896 posts

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Topic Starter

Shiirn 2016-04-16T15:39:28+00:00

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Dellvangel

1,269 posts

Joined November 2014

Dellvangel 2016-04-20T10:52:37+00:00

Hi, here is my mod as requested by Amishici via chat in game ~~2 weeks ago T.T~~.

1|2|3|4
1|2|3|4|5|6|7
[Shici's 7K NM]
00:02:436 (2436|5) - (optional) move to 7? somehow lebih nyaman di main, mungkin karena 00:02:436 (2436|0,2780|2) - ga ada pake jari tengah nya lel.
00:23:298 (23298|4,23298|5,23470|4,23470|5) - bedain col nya, ini sama kayak 00:20:539 (20539|6,20539|3,20711|2,20711|5) - 00:15:022 (15022|2,15022|5,15194|1,15194|4) - dll.
00:30:367 (30367|3) - ke col 3 lebih konsisten imo, kayak 00:26:918 (26918|4,27608|3) - apalagi sama 00:40:711 (40711|1,41401|2) - lel.
00:31:918 (31918|4) - harusnya note biasa dan satu col sama 00:32:091 (32091|2) - kayak 00:42:953 (42953|3,43125|3) - .
00:51:746 - add a note here?
00:56:918 (56918|6,56918|5) - geser kiri 1x, 00:57:263 (57263|1,57263|0) - geser kanan 1x, emphasis perbedaan pitch nya sama 00:56:229 (56229|5,56229|6,56573|0,56573|1) - .
01:48:642 (108642|5) - ke col 5, lebih nyaman di main, juga biar keliat lebih mirror sama 01:49:849 (109849|0,110022|2) - .

[CS' 4K NM]
00:03:815 (3815|3) - this LN is weird imo, https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4971078 play better (try to consistent what sound that you follow before).
00:06:573 (6573|2) - ^ same, https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4971098 may be.
00:08:815 (8815|0) - this one is weird too, delete it and 00:08:642 - should be a LN here.
00:28:470 (28470|0,28642|3) - ^ same, may be 00:28:642 (28642|3) - change to LN like 00:25:884 (25884|3) - .
other than that seems fine for me when i testplay it.

Sorry for only mod 2 diffs.
Good luck~

Shoga

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Shoga 2016-05-24T04:45:48+00:00

go go mania!

Shiirn

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Shiirn 2016-05-29T21:45:12+00:00

Mania has done literally nothing....

I'm very close to just removing them all again.

Still pushing for other modes.

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