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Warak - REANIMATE

posted 2016-01-03T22:15:06+00:00

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Rohit6

Joined August 2013

Rohit6 2016-02-16T12:47:16+00:00

Kuki wrote:
u have 14 diffs and u only made one, this set isn't even 10% yours

roshit's insane

00:12:436 (3,1,2,3,4,5) - the stream isn't stacked on the sliderend if that was your aim here. moved 3 pixels

00:37:263 (2,3,4,2,3,4) - for portions like this i suggest ncing each slider, as each one changes sv. i think what you are doing right now is not making it obvious to the player that there are sv changes, and you're not being very forgiving to the player either, as only the first new combo gives an hp boost. ok fine

00:45:884 (1) - i think that this slider flows much better from 00:45:539 (4) - if it's ctrl+g, since it makes a sort-of triangle with 00:45:194 (3,4,1) - and adds some more emphasis to 00:45:884 (1) - which i think in this situation it does need. i dont personally like that stack and i think the violin is strong enough to demand some movement

00:47:263 (3,4,5,6) - the square here is a bit off and doesn't look very nice in game imo, move 00:47:608 (5) - to x=394 y=199 and 00:47:780 (6) - to x=287 y=258 to fix. changed the pattern entirely because the square didnt work that well

00:47:953 (1,3) - honestly with these two sliders to me it seems like you're trying to create crazy slider art, it doesn't play very nice at all unfortunately. i suggest you just use 'normal' sliders here until you get down how to make sliders like these flow properly and not create huge rifts in flow while playing. ok i fixed the first slider a bit but the second one is absolutely justifiable because the kinks on the slider land on a kick and snare,also this song is full of instruments so i used a lot of tight elbow sliders for emphasis. As far as flow is concerned its fine because I havent seen any testplayer break on this yet even on sight read

01:01:056 (3) - this is the same as above, these sliders look good but they don't play the same, this one in particular is rather uncomfortable and almost makes the player stop in his tracks due to the curve here; it looks like a nice curve but when it's played the cursor stops in the center, putting, like i said prior, a huge rift in the flow in my opinion. changed the shape a little bit for better flow

01:26:573 (1) - this slider half-way through at 01:26:918 - has a very prominent sound, not mapping this not only sounds really weird but i think it plays weird also, since you've just been mapping the same sound at 01:25:194 (1,2,3,4) -, and now, suddenly, you've stopped and placed a long slider for seemingly no reason apart from it being similar to the ones you used prior at 01:19:677 (1,2,1,1,2,1) -. i think either you should map this slider just like the two hitcircles at 01:25:884 (3,4) -, or at the very least shorten it to 01:26:918 - so that you're mapping the sound there. im not mapping the beats here ,im actually following the piano so I havent mapped the kicks or the snares in this section

01:31:573 (3) - this slider seems to sound like it's mapped to nothing at all, the only sound that seems to be in this slider is half-way through at 01:31:746 -, but that sound continues till 01:32:091 (1) - so you can't be mapping that. even if it starts at the start (maybe i can't hear it) you still shouldn't be mapping it as it's so quiet it wouldn't make any sense. yeah this was supposed to be 1/3 ,my bad,changed all

01:34:332 (3) - you've done the same here, except the only sound in the slider starts at 01:34:160 - and finishes at 01:34:849 (1) -, 1/2 before and after the slider respectively. like i said above this doesn't make sense. ^

Rohit's Insane

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Side

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Joined October 2013

Side 2016-02-16T18:09:56+00:00

Kuki wrote:
u have 14 diffs and u only made one, this set isn't even 10% yours

side's normal

00:02:436 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - surely you can do more than map 16 hitcircles in a row here, remember, this is a normal, and it's quite difficult for new players to consistently hit things like this with no sliders to get a break on. you can try possibly putting a slider at 00:03:815 (3) - like this and maybe even add a note at 00:04:504 -. using this rhythm through the start would be much nicer and more intuitive to play i think, and also gives you a chance to map a bit more, because to me it seems like here you've mapped with normal spacing and easy difficulty in mind. I could but I'd rather not. I don't think any new players can struggle to read 2/1 single taps. I have some irl friends that I use as guinea pigs to test my normals and I can say none of them have messed up the intro at all.

00:14:849 (3,4,1) - this feels too linear to me, simply ctrl+hing this makes it flow nicer, but that would ruin placement and spacing for your next and prior notes. i think you should experiment a little with this section and maybe add a bit of anti-flow to spice up the map a bit and make it a bit more fun, because it seems too straightfoward and boring to me when i play it at the moment. ctrl+h? It flows perfectly fine it's a small circular motion and more importantly nothing unexpected. Keep in mind this is a normal and things such as anti flow aren't good for playability for this level. Since this section is pretty calm still I'd rather keep it stable.

00:21:056 (4) - i think that the slider here is quite unnecessary here, there's a quiet sound at the end of the slider but it isn't even similar to the sound you started it on. i think to emphasize the sound that it starts on, which is a quite loud and prominent sound, you should just place a hitcircle. this puts more emphasis on it because it's a solo note, and it leaves a gap (which i think you should have here) to the next portion of the song starting at 00:21:746 (1) -. The reason 00:21:056 (4) - is a 1/1 slider as opposed to the previous two upbeats at 00:15:539 (4) - 00:17:608 (3) - is because 00:21:746 - ...actually it's a bit hard to explain cuz I don't know the terminology. The example I use usualy is like a poem. Each stanza (NC in this case) goes 1-2-3 (00:13:470 - is the first) ,1-2-3 (00:16:229 - the second) then the third (00:18:987 - ) goes 1-2-1-2 and finally 1-2-3 again 00:21:746 - . This applies to music too I just forgot what this is referred to but it basically emphasizes the last beat in the bar.

00:38:298 (1) - i think here that since you've already had two curved sliders (and you have one after this note) that you should make this one straight to make things a little different. in my opinion having too many curved/bezier/straight sliders is quite detrimental to how a map feels overall, and how it plays.i think that normal curves are usually soft and flow nicely onto the next note, so they can be used often in slower sections, bezier and straight sliders are a bit harder and more rigid, so they can often be used to amplify certain sounds like a guitar or synth. i think you should try to have a nice balance of straight and curved sliders throughout your map to keep it interesting and add emphasis to particular sounds you think they fit with.
What I think when I hear the chorus is that it's smooth and flowy so I represent with all curvy sliders.

00:39:677 (3) - this note here is more emphasized than 00:40:022 (4,5,6) -, but it has a lower spacing from the note before it, and a higher spacing to the note next to it. i find this odd because the notes that follow this are quieter and less intense, whereas the complete opposite for 00:39:677 (3) -. it's a finishing note for the vocals and it's followed by a quieter section so i think you should heighten the spacing between it and 00:38:987 (2) -, or maybe even stack to create a sort-of flow break which would make sense here. then i think you should also lower the spacing for 00:40:022 (4,5,6) - as it's definitely quieter and with that i think it should be less emphasized. The whole map uses .8x spacing so the spacing is consistent. Since this is an easy/normal kinda difficulty I'd rather keep it playable to even newer players and distance snap is pretty important when it comes to readability.

00:42:436 (3,5) - my mind is telling me no but my eyes love how this looks, honestly individually these sliders are pretty average but the shape they both make together is neat, it goes against my general rules cause of the whole overlap thing but i actually think this is really nice. thanks :v

02:03:125 (5,6,1) - i think this could be a bit more fun if you moved (6) up a bit, something like this, cause at the moment i think it looks a little awkward because it isn't exactly a straight line but it's not curved either, instead of making it flow well to both or one of the sliders, it looks to me like you've made them both flow 'alright'. Well I had it like that and moved it down for better flow from suggestions from other mods. I think I'll just keep it this way for now to be on the safe side

02:06:573 (1,3) - try to do the same thing you did at 00:42:436 (3,5) - and fit the sliderend of (3) into (1), i think this looks a lot nicer and if you're going to stick with the overlap you should do this, not only because you've done it previously but because it looks better too imo Did that

Also made a few aesthetic improvements. Thanks!

running out of witty box names so hurry up and rank this :v

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Kuki

722 posts

Joined October 2013

Kuki 2016-02-17T08:26:58+00:00

waiting on a reply from shiirn

Spaghetti

1,118 posts

Joined August 2014

Spaghetti 2016-02-18T01:48:20+00:00

vaporwave

spaghetti's insane

00:03:987 (7) - snap onto the end of 00:04:160 (1) - to fix the stack here Sliderend stacking is still retarded for some reason

00:56:229 (10) - a new combo should definitely be here, not just to stop the counter from going all the way to 16, but to signify a new section of the song starting at the large white tick. accidently removed lol

quite a polished difficulty already, looks and plays really nice! thank :d

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Shiirn

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Topic Starter

Shiirn 2016-02-18T15:46:55+00:00

All diffs updated, also buzz it Kuki, I don't work on your time schedule. Your specific advice has been implemented and your disappointment has been noted and discarded.

Shiirn

2,896 posts

Joined August 2010

Topic Starter

Shiirn 2016-02-19T01:15:49+00:00

Updated Fetish's diff.

Spaghetti

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Spaghetti 2016-02-19T03:19:05+00:00

VINXIS wrote:
holy jstu delete evrythign thats not the wub part and remap thank

Exa

445 posts

Joined January 2015

Exa 2016-02-19T09:52:01+00:00

Ok, so with all this drama starting to pile up I would like to step in and provide my own opinion regarding the 2 hardest standard difficulties.

The Fetish's Extra:

00:02:436 (1,2,3,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Having represented these with the use of sliders, it only seems weird to see 00:05:194 (1,2,3,4,5) being mapped with a stream. Not only that, but that's the only existing stream in the first section. It feels really out of place and it's also rhythmically inconsistent.
00:13:470 (1,2,3,4,5) - I understand using streams here since they require much more effort to complete than 1/4 sliders do and they increase tension, something that fits the bass kick which first appears here.
00:14:160 (1,1) - These are not stacked.
00:14:849 (1,1) - These sliders contain the same sounds as 00:15:539 (2,3,4), it's apparent that for the sake of rhythmical consistency, they should be represented using the same kinds of objects. It was also quite unexpected to me that you deny the player interaction with 00:15:022 which is clearly a beat work tapping on.
00:16:918 (1,2,3) - Now this is not good in more than one ways. Regarding the reading part, the spacing is very misleading since the distance between 00:16:918 (1,2) is much greater than the distance between 00:17:263 (2,3) even though the time gap between the objects suggest to be otherwise. Now as for the kinetic/tension handling I even though matter of partial subjectivity, 00:17:436 (3) seems to be more tense than 00:17:263 (2,3), hence why the spacing between these should be bigger than what is currently is. And as far as the aesthetic part goes, the distance between the tail of 00:17:436 (3) and 00:16:918 (1,2) individually could be equal (on it's current state). Example. I can also tell that you formed a nice triangle between 00:17:263 (2,3,1) which would also be feasible after correcting the aesthetics of 00:16:918 (1,2,3).
00:17:608 (1,2,1,1,2,1) - However the previous pattern also contributes into making this repeating rhythm here even more uncomfortable to read. I agree that 00:16:918 (1,2) and 00:17:608 (1,2) include different sound and therefore should be treated differently, but the dramatic change of spacing between objects that are defined by the same time gap is only makes these patterns devastatingly hard to read, let alone play. 00:17:608 (1,2,1) anyone on the reading skill of under 7* would normally complete the slider, tap and then expect a 1/2 time gap. But the use of 00:16:918 (1,2,3) is not the biggest issue, just part of it. What is the foundation of fooling the players is the SV change right 00:17:608 (1) here. The SV increase increases the length of the slider, making it look a lot like a 3/4 instead of a 1/2. That's why the player should be expecting to tap on a "white tick" that usually comes after a 3/4 slider but instead, they get to tap on a weak blue tick, and ever worse, not tap on the strong ass beat contained 00:17:608 here. The whole pattern is as confusing to play as it sounds while describing it, I highly suggest that you think it over.
00:20:022 - It seems really weird that there is not an impactful enough object on this sound but there are on 00:20:194 and 00:20:367.
00:20:884 (5,6,1) - Ok it's a no-brainer that anyone would reduce the cursor's speed as not much is needed to complete these last 3 objects. However, 00:22:349 (7,1) here the player will not only not reduce, but even increase the cursor's speed as there is no way of completing the slider otherwise. As you can tell this proposes kinetic inconsistencies. You could of-course try to justify the different use of velocity by using the difference between the pitches of the music; but with the second one being lower than the first, that would still be the wrong way to go about it.
00:24:160 (1) - Please end the slider a 1/4 tick before and add a note where it's current tail is so that the players taps consistently throughout
00:23:470 (5,1,1) this whole pattern.
00:26:229 (1,2,3) - Coll pattern but way too cramped for this level of difficulty. With my incomparable artistic skills, I am representing with blue the desired flow and with red the achieved flow. Here! As you can tell, the placement of the objects result in very little movement, literally killing all the tension had been created or would be required to move to 00:27:263 (1) which is considerably far from the current pattern.
00:27:263 (1,2) - These essentially contain the same sounds as 00:30:022 (1,2) but they are very different both in terms of spacing and flow.
00:27:953 (4,5,6) - The spacing here is also misleading. The spacing between 4,5 is the same as 5,6 even though the time gap between them is doubled!
00:28:987 (1,2,3) - Very different from the pattern the you've used before. It's nice to have variety but forcing the player to fluctuate the cursor's velocity when it's clearly not needed because of the tension of this part compared to the rest of the song is not a really nice idea.
00:28:987 (1,2) - Also the blanket between these could clearly be much better.
00:27:780 (3,4) - Next comes the time to compare this to 00:30:539 (3,4) which are also the same but are treated, again, very differently. Needless to say that great spacial inconsistencies are being introduced.
00:32:091 (1) - This is asymmetrical. A simple Copy-Paste would be enough to spot it.
00:40:711 (2,3) - Going with slider+note would be a much better way of represeting these sounds for three major reasons: Firstly there is a hold sound starting on the white tick. Secondly it is really uncomfortable both because of the flow but also because of not tapping on a prominent enough beat. And last, but not lease, you end up skipping an extremely important and that you always make the player tap on in every other instance.
00:42:263 (5,1) - Ok it bothers me so I have to mention it. I get that this flow is edgy and hard and cool to look at but it's also really uncomfortable to play to. However that's not the case as you can easily say "well it fits on this sound". What bothers me is that you've used the same flow for 00:40:884 (3,4) which is nowhere near the same sound nor provide the same tension. Please considering changing at least one of them, preferably the first one.
00:54:160 (1) - Remove new combo, it's unnecessary.
00:58:987 (2,1) - Wow why forcefully cut the flow in the middle of the party? You are not emphasizing the note more since there is not a 1/1 or 3/4 time gap afterwards so it simply seems weird.
01:04:160 (5,6,1) - The spacing of 6,1 might seem grater then the spacing of 5,6 since the SV is being increased. Although that's more of a subjective matter, you could move 01:04:332 (6) at about 306,228 so that you represent 01:03:901 with the spacing that it deserves.
01:07:953 (2,1) - The blanket here could be a bit better.
01:09:332 (1,2,3,4,5) - Please silence the slider ends, the normal hitsample hurts to hear since it doesn't land on an actual beat.
01:14:849 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same goes for these.
01:18:642 (2) - You could start using notes here!
01:26:746 (4,5) - I don't get why you keep cutting the flow. 01:26:918 (5) even contains a much stronger sound than 01:26:746 (4) so it only seems weird to represent 4 by using a jump and 5 by completely stopping.
01:32:436 (1,1) - Pls you can do better I believe in you
01:33:470 (1,2,3,4) - Ok you are edgy and want to somehow make this interesting, I get it. But having represented 01:31:401 (1,2,3,4) with steady spacing and then going ahead and completely changing the structure of your mapping regarding these sounds to spacing like 01:33:470 (1,2) and 01:33:700 (3,4) will simply bring confusion. The point is for the map to be enjoyable to a degree but basing the structure of certain sounds on the use of inconsistent spacing disallows that from happening
01:34:160 (1,2,1,2) - And then on the same sounds you proceed to use 01:36:918 (1,2,1,2) different AND reversed rhythm...
01:41:746 (1,2) - I... I don't get it. I am trying but for the life of me I don't see why you are being so incosistent. At the beginning you used 1/4 slider AND a stream but here you decide to completely ignore the most prominent component of this section and instead you go with the simplest and most unfitting rhythm, basing it off solely on the sounds contained within the white ticks. I am sure that you will throw this as a justification of what you did since there is no other explanation but.. let's be real, you could've easily filled this section in to actually make it interesting with streams/ 1/4 sliders or even reverse 1/4 - be it inconsistent as well since that's what you've been doing up until now, but going with a 1/2 slider and 4 notes simply kills the relevant tension of this map and in general feels really off.
01:44:504 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Needless to say this also applies here.
01:46:142 - The saddest part is that in the process of trying to be different, you end up skipping sounds that you've mapped right afterward! Just like how you've mapped 01:46:229 (1). (It's the same sound with higher pitch).
01:47:263 (1,2,3) - Same goes for these as well.
01:48:642 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1) - And now that comes in and confuses me even more, oh god. Why would you randomly map these sounds now? Ok lets assume that for whatever reason, it's cool to not map the sounds that are essentially similar to these, even though you've mapped them at the beginning. Why in the world would you randomly start mapping them now? I feel bad because, since I can't understand your logic behind what you map and what not, I am unable to provide alternatives; something that I would really love to do.
01:50:798 (2,3,4,5,6) - I am also getting bored of saying that everything you do in this section adds up to the confusion I am trying to cope with right now. Even though you've skipped or not properly represented the most prominent sounds in this section, you decide to map these ones, when I think we both agree that they are far less prominent. But let's say that it's cool to map these... Why skip half of them by the use of 01:51:056 (5) which is a slider..? "They are getting really quite and barely audible" is the answer that I would be expecting but you should have thought of that when you startied mapping them as a stream, a rhythmical pattern that - when created - will inevitably increase the tension since it requires much more effort to complete.
01:59:332 (3,2,1) - That's the same as 00:58:987 (2,1), what I said about this one apply here as well. Props for being consistent though.

In general this difficulty suffers from great rhythmical, kinetic, spacial and tension handling inconsistencies, major misrepresentations of prominent and not sounds but while modding it, I could also tell that it's not well structured. There are no thoughtful patterns, blankets are off, sliders or nonparallel and the flow is not pleasant or fun to play to in many occasions.

Now as far as Shiirn's difficulty "REJUVENATE" goes, although the flow is not as smooth as it could possibly be, it stands behind a pretty solid structure. There are some parts that could undergo aesthetic improvement but I don't want to bother you with these since they are really nazi. There is one thing that I would like to point out though and that's something that I also pointed out on The Fetish's diff and that's: 00:58:987 (2,1) and how it works with relation to 01:04:504 (1,1) - Thing is that although they are the same sounds being represented and you should use the same kind of movement, stacking is not a good idea in the first place. That's because you end up with two different kinds of stacks in two very similar parts of the song but they both have a great difference on the time gap between the note and the slider. Spacing them out - even a tad bit - or using normal stack on one and manual stack would very much improve readability in comparison to how it is now.

Edit: Added list to be more readable.

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VINXIS

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VINXIS 2016-02-19T16:04:52+00:00

the fetish extr

idk y peopl r hatin the diff is gud

thers lik 2 things tho

sightread play 2 see wot im talking about in these 2 point s

01:39:677 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - this is the lesser important thing but the 1/3 pattern that u use here is really d 2 play tbh compared to the rest of the 1/3 u use. if u see in the replay i go like hol y cuz im just lik ok straight 1/3 more like ha : )0)))000 its most probably becaus of the movement at 01:39:792 (2,3,1) - which makes it rlly weird to play u kno. if u cud move the 01:40:022 (1,2,3) - so 01:39:792 (2,3,1) - cud mak a triangle it mite make it a bit better 2 paly btu ya

01:59:677 (2,1) - this stack the only time u do thsi and it realy made me go wGH wen i was playing it cuz it was out of nowhere and u didnt do it before ever witht eh 1/4 slider spams so i was lik ok rip my life. id really recommend changing this 2 save consistency and 2 make it play better Xd

ya second point is more important even tho thers less word s

plz let me fc

pl s

EphemeralFetish

472 posts

Joined May 2014

EphemeralFetish 2016-02-19T16:21:13+00:00

VINXIS wrote:
the fetish extr

idk y peopl r hatin the diff is gud

thers lik 2 things tho

sightread play 2 see wot im talking about in these 2 point s

01:39:677 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - this is the lesser important thing but the 1/3 pattern that u use here is really d 2 play tbh compared to the rest of the 1/3 u use. if u see in the replay i go like hol y cuz im just lik ok straight 1/3 more like ha : )0)))000 its most probably becaus of the movement at 01:39:792 (2,3,1) - which makes it rlly weird to play u kno. if u cud move the 01:40:022 (1,2,3) - so 01:39:792 (2,3,1) - cud mak a triangle it mite make it a bit better 2 paly btu ya - Applied.

01:59:677 (2,1) - this stack the only time u do thsi and it realy made me go wGH wen i was playing it cuz it was out of nowhere and u didnt do it before ever witht eh 1/4 slider spams so i was lik ok rip my life. id really recommend changing this 2 save consistency and 2 make it play better Xd - Actually the exact same stack is also in the first kiai, I personally see no issues with these stacks regardless so Ill leave as is for now.

ya second point is more important even tho thers less word s

plz let me fc

pl s

Ill get around to that wall of a mod some other time. Also sending Shiirn updates via Pm instead because the codes keep fucking up on forums.

Shiirn

2,896 posts

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Topic Starter

Shiirn 2016-02-19T17:33:49+00:00

I'll be responding to Exa's mod to help aid Fetish in figuring out how to respond to walls of text. Feel free to ignore this post, although everyone could stand to have a read just to see how some things are done.

Also, exa, you should really look into formatting your mods. Walls of text like this are extremely draining for the mapper as it is hard to tell where one suggestion starts and another ends. Spend a few minutes of your own time on formatting to make it easier for the mapper, it can make a world of difference.

Exa wrote:
Ok, so with all this drama starting to pile up I would like to step in and provide my own opinion regarding the 2 hardest standard difficulties.

The Fetish's Extra:

00:02:436 (1,2,3,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Having represented these with the use of sliders, it only seems weird to see 00:05:194 (1,2,3,4,5) being mapped with a stream. Not only that, but that's the only existing stream in the first section. It feels really out of place and it's also rhythmically inconsistent. This is a viable concern. Internal consistency is important.
00:14:160 (1,1) - These are not stacked. This is a viable concern.
00:14:849 (1,1) - These sliders contain the same sounds as 00:15:539 (2,3,4), it's apparent that for the sake of rhythmical consistency, they should be represented using the same kinds of objects. It was also quite unexpected to me that you deny the player interaction with 00:15:022 which is clearly a beat work tapping on. This is a style issue. Note that Fetish's diff is representing the synth whines more than the bass hits. He does a very good job of representing them - the beat on the end of the 1/2 slider is from a bass hit, and the synth whine starts and ends on a 1/2, as opposed to whining twice with the 1/4 sliders. I don't see any reason to change this.
00:16:918 (1,2,3) - Now this is not good in more than one ways. Regarding the reading part, the spacing is very misleading since the distance between 00:16:918 (1,2) is much greater than the distance between 00:17:263 (2,3) even though the time gap between the objects suggest to be otherwise. Now as for the kinetic/tension handling I even though matter of partial subjectivity, 00:17:436 (3) seems to be more tense than 00:17:263 (2,3), hence why the spacing between these should be bigger than what is currently is. And as far as the aesthetic part goes, the distance between the tail of 00:17:436 (3) and 00:16:918 (1,2) individually could be equal (on it's current state). Example. I can also tell that you formed a nice triangle between 00:17:263 (2,3,1) which would also be feasible after correcting the aesthetics of 00:16:918 (1,2,3). While I agree that this particular few objects could be made a bit better, this is now how you go about it. This is a modder directly suggesting their own style to replace the original mapper's. The distance of (2) from (1) is perfectly fine - as is the spacing between (3) and the next combo. The spacing between 2 and 3 is low because the emphasis is more on the jumps previous and after them, not their significance to each other. I would fiddle with this combo a bit without directly taking his suggestion.
00:17:608 (1,2,1,1,2,1) - However the previous pattern also contributes into making this repeating rhythm here even more uncomfortable to read. I agree that 00:16:918 (1,2) and 00:17:608 (1,2) include different sound and therefore should be treated differently, but the dramatic change of spacing between objects that are defined by the same time gap is only makes these patterns devastatingly hard to read, let alone play. 00:17:608 (1,2,1) anyone on the reading skill of under 7* would normally complete the slider, tap and then expect a 1/2 time gap. But the use of 00:16:918 (1,2,3) is not the biggest issue, just part of it. What is the foundation of fooling the players is the SV change right 00:17:608 (1) here. The SV increase increases the length of the slider, making it look a lot like a 3/4 instead of a 1/2. That's why the player should be expecting to tap on a "white tick" that usually comes after a 3/4 slider but instead, they get to tap on a weak blue tick, and ever worse, not tap on the strong ass beat contained 00:17:608 here. The whole pattern is as confusing to play as it sounds while describing it, I highly suggest that you think it over. Here is another instance of disagreeing with style as opposed to actually questioning playability. These play and look fine - the emphasis on the 1/4 middle circles and their next sliders is fine. The spacing, while not something you'd see every day, is internally consistent. You can't purely use your own set of "readability rules" when you are modding - Fetish's map uses spacing styles that haven't been used all that often because they are only useful for mapping styles applied to music such as this. Just because it's different doesn't mean it's wrong. As long as it is internally consistent (which it is), it's readable and playable and even fun.
00:20:022 - It seems really weird that there is not an impactful enough object on this sound but there are on 00:20:194 and 00:20:367. I agree that 00:19:677 (1) - should be a 3/4 slider and a note.
00:20:884 (5,6,1) - Ok it's a no-brainer that anyone would reduce the cursor's speed as not much is needed to complete these last 3 objects. However, 00:22:349 (7,1) here the player will not only not reduce, but even increase the cursor's speed as there is no way of completing the slider otherwise. As you can tell this proposes kinetic inconsistencies. You could of-course try to justify the different use of velocity by using the difference between the pitches of the music; but with the second one being lower than the first, that would still be the wrong way to go about it. You phrased it really badly, but as far as I can tell you're objecting to the momentum differences between these two combos - the lowered momentum on the higher pitch and higher momentum on a lower pitch can work perfectly fine for emphasis, even if you disagree. I think it's fine.
00:24:160 (1) - Please end the slider a 1/4 tick before and add a note where it's current tail is so that the players taps consistently throughout 00:23:470 (5,1,1) this whole pattern. I heavily disagree. This is a slider that is ending a section. It's perfectly valid for it to just end as a 1/1 slider. This is your own style leaking into your modding.
00:26:229 (1,2,3) - Coll pattern but way too cramped for this level of difficulty. With my incomparable artistic skills, I am representing with blue the desired flow and with red the achieved flow. Here! As you can tell, the placement of the objects result in very little movement, literally killing all the tension had been created or would be required to move to 00:27:263 (1) which is considerably far from the current pattern. Again, I heavily disagree. This pattern is not only perfectly valid, but very musically emphasized. While there isn't much direct movement, it introduces the player to the kind of patterning they can expect for the next couple of wubs mapped in this "tied pattern" form.
00:27:263 (1,2) - These essentially contain the same sounds as 00:30:022 (1,2) but they are very different both in terms of spacing and flow. Stop using the word flow. Also, these are fine. The spacing is not so incredibly huge nor is the movement of the cursor necessary so different that this is even really noticeable.
00:27:953 (4,5,6) - The spacing here is also misleading. The spacing between 4,5 is the same as 5,6 even though the time gap between them is doubled! What are you talking about? the spacing is equal.
00:28:987 (1,2,3) - Very different from the pattern the you've used before. It's nice to have variety but forcing the player to fluctuate the cursor's velocity when it's clearly not needed because of the tension of this part compared to the rest of the song is not a really nice idea. I'm not sure if you really understand the leeway sliderballs give you. The actual jumpy spacing between these isn't all that larger than the previous one - like I said, that introduced the rhythm, this introduces the patterning. It's well mapped.
00:28:987 (1,2) - Also the blanket between these could clearly be much better. It totally could.
00:27:780 (3,4) - Next comes the time to compare this to 00:30:539 (3,4) which are also the same but are treated, again, very differently. Needless to say that great spacial inconsistencies are being introduced. I'm pretty sure you don't really understand the concept of freestyle spacing. The spacing between these is fine - the inconsistencies add flavor rather than confusion, as a player will obviously know that the beats in this section are 1/2, so they just need to get to the next note - the exact location or exact distance doesn't matter. Seriously, Solar proved this 4.5 years ago.
00:32:091 (1) - This is asymmetrical. A simple Copy-Paste would be enough to spot it. This is so god damn nazi i can't even. And i can get real nazi.
00:40:711 (2,3) - Going with slider+note would be a much better way of represeting these sounds for three major reasons: Firstly there is a hold sound starting on the white tick. Secondly it is really uncomfortable both because of the flow but also because of not tapping on a prominent enough beat. And last, but not lease, you end up skipping an extremely important and that you always make the player tap on in every other instance. Yeah no. This is where the windup whine in the background starts really revving up so representing it is perfectly valid.
00:42:263 (5,1) - Ok it bothers me so I have to mention it. I get that this flow is edgy and hard and cool to look at but it's also really uncomfortable to play to. However that's not the case as you can easily say "well it fits on this sound". What bothers me is that you've used the same flow for 00:40:884 (3,4) which is nowhere near the same sound nor provide the same tension. Please considering changing at least one of them, preferably the first one. It plays fine. Seriously stop using the word 'flow' it's lazy. "Flow" ruined mapping because people only want the same bullshit "i want to move my cursor in a general direction unless it's a pp jump section where i want random fucking spacing". Flow ruins mapping.
00:54:160 (1) - Remove new combo, it's unnecessary. I agree.
00:58:987 (2,1) - Wow why forcefully cut the flow in the middle of the party? You are not emphasizing the note more since there is not a 1/1 or 3/4 time gap afterwards so it simply seems weird. This emphasizes the halt right before the wubs, thereby enhancing both the wubs and the preceding windup - exactly the same way REJUVENATE does. What's your problem?
01:04:160 (5,6,1) - The spacing of 6,1 might seem grater then the spacing of 5,6 since the SV is being increased. Although that's more of a subjective matter, you could move 01:04:332 (6) at about 306,228 so that you represent 01:03:901 with the spacing that it deserves. The spacing difference isn't so large that it needs to be changed.
01:07:953 (2,1) - The blanket here could be a bit better. The blanket is actually fine - it's the issue that the previous slider curves over the ending, imo, but oh well.
01:09:332 (1,2,3,4,5) - Please silence the slider ends, the normal hitsample hurts to hear since it doesn't land on an actual beat. Instead of silencing them, just slap soft-hitnormal on them.
01:14:849 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same goes for these.Instead of silencing them, just slap soft-hitnormal on them.
01:18:642 (2) - You could start using notes here! This is using paired patterns. Style differences.
01:26:746 (4,5) - I don't get why you keep cutting the flow. 01:26:918 (5) even contains a much stronger sound than 01:26:746 (4) so it only seems weird to represent 4 by using a jump and 5 by completely stopping. The word "Flow" ruins mapping. Fetish uses many "flow ruining" patterns and shapes to emphasize instruments.
01:32:436 (1,1) - Pls you can do better I believe in you what the shit it's fine
01:33:470 (1,2,3,4) - Ok you are edgy and want to somehow make this interesting, I get it. But having represented 01:31:401 (1,2,3,4) with steady spacing and then going ahead and completely changing the structure of your mapping regarding these sounds to spacing like 01:33:470 (1,2) and 01:33:700 (3,4) will simply bring confusion. The point is for the map to be enjoyable to a degree but basing the structure of certain sounds on the use of inconsistent spacing disallows that from happening While it's fucking offensive that you call this kind of mapping edgy yet throw around the word "flow" like a menehune sucks you off every time you use it, I do agree that this kind of patterning is really awkward to play.
01:34:160 (1,2,1,2) - And then on the same sounds you proceed to use 01:36:918 (1,2,1,2) different AND reversed rhythm... I think this is fine.
01:41:746 (1,2) - I... I don't get it. I am trying but for the life of me I don't see why you are being so incosistent. At the beginning you used 1/4 slider AND a stream but here you decide to completely ignore the most prominent component of this section and instead you go with the simplest and most unfitting rhythm, basing it off solely on the sounds contained within the white ticks. I am sure that you will throw this as a justification of what you did since there is no other explanation but.. let's be real, you could've easily filled this section in to actually make it interesting with streams/ 1/4 sliders or even reverse 1/4 - be it inconsistent as well since that's what you've been doing up until now, but going with a 1/2 slider and 4 notes simply kills the relevant tension of this map and in general feels really off. This is a perfectly valid way of killing tension and providing a break for players. The violin section is easily the most 'peaceful' in the entire map - it's pretty much a psuedo break.
01:44:504 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Needless to say this also applies here. The streams here are extremely easy and patterened to be easy to hit. This is what I call a "break section".
01:46:142 - The saddest part is that in the process of trying to be different, you end up skipping sounds that you've mapped right afterward! Just like how you've mapped 01:46:229 (1). (It's the same sound with higher pitch). Saying things like "the saddest part" and "process of trying to be different" are fucking offensive concepts. Trying to be different and being different are two extremely separate things and honestly the deeper i get into this mod the more respect I lose for you. Not everything needs to follow your world view of spacing, or dare I say, "FLOW". That said, I feel like 01:45:884 (3) - can be a 3/4 slider.
01:47:263 (1,2,3) - Same goes for these as well. At this point the player knows what the rhythm is. Spacing liberties can be taken.
01:48:642 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1) - And now that comes in and confuses me even more, oh god. Why would you randomly map these sounds now? Ok lets assume that for whatever reason, it's cool to not map the sounds that are essentially similar to these, even though you've mapped them at the beginning. Why in the world would you randomly start mapping them now? I feel bad because, since I can't understand your logic behind what you map and what not, I am unable to provide alternatives; something that I would really love to do. He's been mapping the streamy violin bits for emphasis for this entire section. This is a way to let the player know that the end of the break section is coming up. It's not that large of a difficulty spike yet is clearly harder. You're missing the entire point of the map because you're too stuck in how YOU would map this. It ruins your purpose as a modder.
01:50:798 (2,3,4,5,6) - I am also getting bored of saying that everything you do in this section adds up to the confusion I am trying to cope with right now. Even though you've skipped or not properly represented the most prominent sounds in this section, you decide to map these ones, when I think we both agree that they are far less prominent. But let's say that it's cool to map these... Why skip half of them by the use of 01:51:056 (5) which is a slider..? "They are getting really quite and barely audible" is the answer that I would be expecting but you should have thought of that when you startied mapping them as a stream, a rhythmical pattern that - when created - will inevitably increase the tension since it requires much more effort to complete. Where the hell are the notes in the (5) slider that you claim he's not mapping while mapping other beats? You make no sense here. Your entire mod makes less and less sense as you keep on going through the map.
01:59:332 (3,2,1) - That's the same as 00:58:987 (2,1), what I said about this one apply here as well. Props for being consistent though. Internal consistency is far more important than mapping to your standards.

In general this difficulty suffers from great rhythmical, kinetic, spacial and tension handling inconsistencies, major misrepresentations of prominent and not sounds but while modding it, I could also tell that it's not well structured. There are no thoughtful patterns, blankets are off, sliders or nonparallel and the flow is not pleasant or fun to play to in many occasions.
underlined words are pointless buzzwords. Your mod was not that useful, it was mostly about how you disagree with how it was mapped, not with any direct issues such as internal inconsistencies (you pointed a few of those out, to be fair) but with pointless nazi comments blown horribly out of proportion that do nothing except make the mapper feel bad. This is unacceptable. Modding is not a tool to enforce your opinions on others and it is not something mappers should dread - it is something mappers should look forward to to help improve their map but all I've seen since I've been released is a bunch of snobby know-it-alls trying to enforce their opinions on everyone else instead of trying to help eachother.
Now as far as Shiirn's difficulty "REJUVENATE" goes, although the flow is not as smooth as it could possibly be, it stands behind a pretty solid structure. There are some parts that could undergo aesthetic improvement but I don't want to bother you with these since they are really nazi. There is one thing that I would like to point out though and that's something that I also pointed out on The Fetish's diff and that's: 00:58:987 (2,1) and how it works with relation to 01:04:504 (1,1) - Thing is that although they are the same sounds being represented and you should use the same kind of movement, stacking is not a good idea in the first place. That's because you end up with two different kinds of stacks in two very similar parts of the song but they both have a great difference on the time gap between the note and the slider. Spacing them out - even a tad bit - or using normal stack on one and manual stack would very much improve readability in comparison to how it is now. I don't care.

Overall, an interesting mod, to say the least. Very much worth a kudosu with or without fetish's pending input.

bananannian

393 posts

Joined June 2014

bananannian 2016-02-19T17:51:34+00:00

Edit: Nevermind. :\

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EphemeralFetish

472 posts

Joined May 2014

EphemeralFetish 2016-02-19T18:13:07+00:00

Well unexpected Shiirn reply has made my reply a lot simpler. If my direct opinion is absolutely required for this Ill post my personal reasoning behind every point as to why I disagree. Anything Shiirn has lable purple is applied and red discarded. Not because he said so but hes pretty much explained everything as I would have, only a bit more agressive.

I wont be changing 01:33:470 (1) - right now. Will discuss with some people about this in my own time. It will be changed but the general "pattern" will remain.

00:05:194 (1,2,3,4,5) - This also I will not be changing. This sound only comes up 3 times in the intro. To save the whole thing being sliders only it only makes sense to have the 2nd of the 3 be different. I couldve had the 1st and 3rd be streams and the second be sliders. But by having sliders for the 1st and 3rd it introduces the player to the rhythm easier as in general sliders are easier to hit than streams. Hopefully Ive explained this right. Also variety.

MBomb

MBomb 2016-02-19T19:40:36+00:00

fixed some snappings

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Shiirn

2,896 posts

Joined August 2010

Topic Starter

Shiirn 2016-02-19T20:39:14+00:00

Updated MBomb's. I'm not going to acknowledge Kuki or Exa unless the provide constructive input regarding the map. Philosophies and demanding to be treated with nothing but respect does not belong in a mapping thread. If you have problems with how I treat you, see how I treat other modders and compare your mods to theirs. You speak of toning wording down yet treat Fetish as if he's trying to be some sort of spoiled brat who wants to "ride my coat tails" or whatever. The Fetish is my friend and if I overreact in defending him it is because I know he does not deserve to have his mapping be offhandedly insulted. You have zero right to whine so hard about being insulted.

That is the end of that. I will be asking a QAT or GMT to clean up this thread.

Last edited by Shiirn 2016-02-19T20:40:07+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Secretpipe

3,316 posts

Joined December 2012

Secretpipe 2016-02-19T20:39:34+00:00

oh nice there's a lot of people in this thread so they'll notice me

anyone who wanna make me a sb ? \o\

VINXIS

Featured Artist

3,161 posts

Joined April 2014

VINXIS 2016-02-19T22:37:00+00:00

powerpuff girls

chainpullz

2,334 posts

Joined June 2013

chainpullz 2016-02-20T01:47:05+00:00

Idk, fetish's diff is far from unplayable. It has some quirks to it but that's what makes it interesting imo. I like the style a bit better than the other reanimate maps tbh.

Grade B Spooky Stuff

http://puu.sh/nekiD/3887e38816.osr

P.S. I tried shiirn's diff. I made it to the second kiai once and had a 450x combo another time but I'm too much of a rank 10k shitter to pull off the pass. The map felt like it flowed amazingly well though if my aim was just a tad bit better.

I'd try to toss a mod your way but I'm worse at modding than I am at playing kek.

WORSTPOLACKEU

511 posts

Joined May 2013

WORSTPOLACKEU 2016-02-20T17:13:26+00:00

IRC LOG

17:31 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:20:022 (2,3) -
17:31 WORSTPOLACKEU: I feel like
17:31 WORSTPOLACKEU: they could be better placed
17:31 WORSTPOLACKEU: I know what you are trying to do there
17:31 WORSTPOLACKEU: the circular thing
17:31 Shiirn: mmm
17:31 WORSTPOLACKEU: like
17:31 WORSTPOLACKEU: ctrl-h
17:31 WORSTPOLACKEU: both notes
17:31 Shiirn: honestly (3) is kinda
17:32 WORSTPOLACKEU: then place them how u want but that would be better playable imo
17:32 Shiirn: i moved 2 closer and 3 as well
17:33 Shiirn: the spacing is what makes it awkward and the jerking back in the same direction
17:33 Shiirn: bad spot for a back-and-forth
17:33 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeah that
17:33 WORSTPOLACKEU: I just see
17:33 WORSTPOLACKEU: what could be awkward
17:33 WORSTPOLACKEU: not the best in fixing

17:33 Shiirn: yeah
17:33 WORSTPOLACKEU: today my first map gets ranked
17:33 WORSTPOLACKEU: hooray
17:33 Shiirn: that comes with experience
17:33 Shiirn: on the other hand
17:33 Shiirn: at least ur not like other modders that are like
17:33 WORSTPOLACKEU: well I mapped only like 4 full diffs fso far
17:33 Shiirn: "this is awkward because FLOW"
17:33 WORSTPOLACKEU: well
17:33 WORSTPOLACKEU: when I mention flow
17:33 WORSTPOLACKEU: I say it as my opinion
17:34 Shiirn: ur just like "this is awkward i cant exactly explain what to fix"
17:34 Shiirn: others are like
17:34 Shiirn: "MUH FLOW"
17:34 WORSTPOLACKEU: xd
17:34 WORSTPOLACKEU: I got taught
17:34 WORSTPOLACKEU: by a good mapper
17:34 WORSTPOLACKEU: since some time ago
17:34 Shiirn: ok
17:34 WORSTPOLACKEU: even if I wasn't mapping a lot I got a lot of insight
17:35 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:28:987 (1,2,3) -
17:35 WORSTPOLACKEU: not problem imo
17:35 WORSTPOLACKEU: some modders might be like
17:35 WORSTPOLACKEU: "spacing!"
17:35 Shiirn: irre rejoined qat rofl
17:35 WORSTPOLACKEU: he did?
17:35 WORSTPOLACKEU: o shit
17:35 Shiirn: nah
17:35 Shiirn: fuck them
17:35 Shiirn: yes
17:35 WORSTPOLACKEU: niceu
17:35 Shiirn: im so fucked
17:35 Shiirn: he hates me
17:35 WORSTPOLACKEU: he loves me
17:35 WORSTPOLACKEU: XD
17:36 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:30:022 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
17:36 WORSTPOLACKEU: I feel like
17:36 WORSTPOLACKEU: you could make this less random
17:36 WORSTPOLACKEU: more vocal focused there
17:36 WORSTPOLACKEU: cause it's most distinct
17:36 Shiirn: mmm
17:36 Shiirn: i think they're equal but i think some sliderwork could make the vocals neat
17:36 WORSTPOLACKEU: I would say
17:36 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:31:056 (3,4) -
17:36 WORSTPOLACKEU: this
17:36 WORSTPOLACKEU: you make spacing accordingly to when tone changes
17:37 WORSTPOLACKEU: and it would work much better
17:37 WORSTPOLACKEU: or sliders, up to you
17:38 Shiirn: rofl
17:38 Shiirn: i shrunk
17:38 Shiirn: the super triple
17:38 Shiirn: 6.45 -> 6.39
17:38 WORSTPOLACKEU: star rating is shit anyway
17:39 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:41:056 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
17:39 WORSTPOLACKEU: why this stacking
17:39 WORSTPOLACKEU: on note+ slider?
17:39 Shiirn: ?
17:40 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:41:660 (4,5) -
17:40 WORSTPOLACKEU: stack
17:40 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:41:315 (2,3) -
17:40 WORSTPOLACKEU: stack
17:40 WORSTPOLACKEU: or do I have something wrong with my osu
17:40 Shiirn: those are
17:40 Shiirn: o.o
17:40 WORSTPOLACKEU: they are all random like this http://puu.sh/neZin/61306f589d.jpg
17:40 Shiirn: in different directions
17:40 Shiirn: they're manually tacked
17:40 Shiirn: in rotations
17:40 Shiirn: rather than just
17:40 WORSTPOLACKEU: ahhh
17:40 WORSTPOLACKEU: now I see
17:40 Shiirn: top left -> bottom right
17:40 WORSTPOLACKEU: what you did
17:41 Shiirn: lol
17:42 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:51:918 (6,1) -
17:42 WORSTPOLACKEU: this might be cause of many misses
17:42 Shiirn: mmm
17:42 Shiirn: how so
17:42 Shiirn: just weird?
17:42 WORSTPOLACKEU: lioke
17:42 WORSTPOLACKEU: ppl expect big spacing change
17:42 WORSTPOLACKEU: or direction change
17:42 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:51:746 (5,6) -
17:43 WORSTPOLACKEU: this is a circular movement
17:43 Shiirn: oh its cuz its TOO small
17:43 WORSTPOLACKEU: just before it
17:43 WORSTPOLACKEU: try making that movement
17:43 Shiirn: yeah
17:43 Shiirn: i get u
17:43 WORSTPOLACKEU: circular and then there
17:43 WORSTPOLACKEU: brb 1 min
17:43 Shiirn: i think i know what to do
17:44 Shiirn: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4572731
17:44 Shiirn: should be more readable
17:44 WORSTPOLACKEU: b
17:45 Shiirn: c
17:45 WORSTPOLACKEU: yes it would work better
17:45 WORSTPOLACKEU: still the movement is a bit weird
17:45 WORSTPOLACKEU: I would probably
17:45 WORSTPOLACKEU: why not continue
17:45 WORSTPOLACKEU: the circular movement
17:45 WORSTPOLACKEU: on00:52:091 (1) -
17:45 Shiirn: hmmm
17:45 WORSTPOLACKEU: feels liek it's the same pattern
17:46 WORSTPOLACKEU: but you break it mid
17:46 Shiirn: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4572747
17:46 WORSTPOLACKEU: ys
17:46 WORSTPOLACKEU: that would work
17:47 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:53:298 (7,1) -
17:47 WORSTPOLACKEU: this is very good
17:47 WORSTPOLACKEU: transition
17:48 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:53:815 (2,3,4,5,6) -
17:48 Shiirn: mmm
17:48 Shiirn: i think i see what was wrong
17:48 Shiirn: they were doing 2 different transitions with the exact same pattern
17:48 WORSTPOLACKEU: yes
17:48 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:53:815 (2,3,4,5,6) -
17:48 WORSTPOLACKEU: this
17:48 Shiirn: ye
17:48 WORSTPOLACKEU: I have no idea but
17:48 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:53:987 (3) -
17:48 WORSTPOLACKEU: this slider feels weird
17:48 WORSTPOLACKEU: and the spacing in that pattern doesn't fit rest of the map
17:49 WORSTPOLACKEU: I would od smth like
17:49 Shiirn: there used to be like
17:49 Shiirn: a big slider there for the wub but i swapped it out cuz it ruined the momentum
17:51 WORSTPOLACKEU: soimething like this
17:51 WORSTPOLACKEU: what I would do
17:51 WORSTPOLACKEU: http://puu.sh/neZRV/78b3fc3cf8.jpg
17:51 WORSTPOLACKEU: just u can probably do it neater
17:52 WORSTPOLACKEU: or this rhythm
17:52 WORSTPOLACKEU: http://puu.sh/neZXy/8abbafec97.jpg
17:52 WORSTPOLACKEU: with ending on
17:52 WORSTPOLACKEU: like u had before
17:52 WORSTPOLACKEU: http://puu.sh/neZYg/ea8bcdc8b5.jpg
17:52 WORSTPOLACKEU: those transitions are very nice
17:53 Shiirn: i get it
17:53 Shiirn: :Y
17:53 WORSTPOLACKEU: that's just what I think

17:54 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:56:229 (1) -
17:54 WORSTPOLACKEU: more spacing since BIG change
17:55 WORSTPOLACKEU: 01:01:056 (3,4,1) - hard to play
17:55 WORSTPOLACKEU: 01:02:608 (1,2,3,4,1) - this is too linear imo
17:56 Shiirn: another back-and-forth
17:56 Shiirn: :Y
17:58 WORSTPOLACKEU: 01:50:711 (1) -
17:58 WORSTPOLACKEU: feels bland xD
17:58 WORSTPOLACKEU: but yeah sometimes needed
17:59 WORSTPOLACKEU: 02:01:746 (5,6,7) - this plays very weird
18:00 Shiirn: reorganized for flow
18:00 WORSTPOLACKEU: well
18:00 WORSTPOLACKEU: that's all I saw

sheela

2,651 posts

Joined October 2011

sheela 2016-02-20T18:27:46+00:00

IRC

11:27 Shiirn: are you able to mod up to 6.45*? (honestly there are only a few points in the map that super overweight it to that point, it's closer to 6*)
11:27 Shiirn: i forget if i asked or not
11:27 Shiirn: lol
11:28 sheela: maybe my suggestion will mostly be emphasis tho
11:28 Shiirn: mmm so icon yes/no would be impossible (i need other mod icons first either way)
11:29 sheela: that depends on how the map is mapped
11:30 Shiirn: true
11:30 *Shiirn is watching [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/871404 Warak - REANIMATE [REJUVENATE]]
11:30 Shiirn: getting playtests
11:30 Shiirn: :Y
11:31 sheela: ok I'm going to try to play this
11:31 Shiirn: hahaha
11:31 sheela: with mf lel
11:31 sheela: *nf
11:31 Shiirn: #2 sweden cant fc
11:31 Shiirn: :Y
11:31 Shiirn: HT would be more appropriate
11:34 sheela: I want to know how is it when you play it "fully"
11:34 Shiirn: true
11:35 Shiirn: irre rejoined qat rofl
11:35 Shiirn: im so fucked
11:36 sheela: 02:03:297 (2,3,4) - umm the spacing is too big for triplet
11:36 sheela: loll
11:36 Shiirn: aha yeah uhhh that triple is kinda crazy
11:36 Shiirn: i think ill shrink that square a lot
11:36 Shiirn: that set alone gives the map like
11:36 Shiirn: 0.12 star rating
11:36 sheela: yea
11:37 sheela: are they emphasizing the "drum-like" sound?
11:37 Shiirn: yeah
11:37 Shiirn: du-du-DAT du
11:37 sheela: they are the same as 02:07:091 (2,3,4) - then
11:37 sheela: ok
11:38 Shiirn: that one is like
11:38 Shiirn: du-du-du du
11:38 Shiirn: the 2:03 has a much stronger hit on the 3rd note
11:38 Shiirn: but yeah uhhh
11:38 Shiirn: honey i shrunk the square jumps
11:38 sheela: oook
11:39 Shiirn: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honey,_I_Shrunk_the_Kids
11:39 Shiirn: that was a reference
11:39 Shiirn: i wasnt calling u honey
11:39 Shiirn: >.>
11:39 sheela: wat
11:39 Shiirn: ...
11:40 Shiirn: "honey i shrunk the square jumps"
11:40 Shiirn: ...
11:40 Shiirn: nvm
11:40 Shiirn: wasnt funny
11:40 Shiirn: sometimes jokes fall flat
11:41 sheela: 00:06:573 (1,2,1,2) - something doubtful has come to my mind here, not sure why...
11:41 Shiirn: too big spacing or just weird
11:42 sheela: particularly the spacing yea with the music
11:42 sheela: nvm
11:43 sheela: ok nvm i understand the meaning of the pattern
11:44 Shiirn: xD
11:44 Shiirn: okeis
11:46 sheela: 00:10:022 (1,2,3) - reduce the spacing here? the music is not very strong here especially 00:10:280 (2) - 
11:47 Shiirn: done
11:48 sheela: 00:12:091 (1) - I think the slider should end on the 1/8 beat 00:12:134 - like you did to 00:09:160 (3) - if you follow the tu tu sound like 00:12:263 (2,3) - 
11:49 Shiirn: ill try it
11:49 Shiirn: it was 1/4 for playability and readability concerns
11:49 Shiirn: but consistency might be more important
11:49 sheela: I agree
11:51 sheela: 00:13:125 (2) - how about you move this closer to the previous slider to get the slow effect better? like around x:322 y:212
11:51 Shiirn: mmm
11:52 Shiirn: sure moved the pattern over
11:53 sheela: this also happens often in the next section like 00:15:884 (2) - 00:18:643 (2) - etc
11:53 sheela: no actually those two
11:53 sheela: yeah only those two
11:54 *Shiirn fiddles
11:58 sheela: 00:24:504 (1,2) - 00:25:022 (1,2) - 00:25:539 (1,2) - lol personal opinion, but they look ugly when the circles are not stacked with the sliders
11:59 sheela: also this part has a lower slider velocity than the others, however the intensity is similar to the other parts
12:00 sheela: lol am I too fast?
12:00 Shiirn: ffs
12:01 Shiirn: no like im just slow cuz im talking to people irl
12:01 sheela: ookk
12:01 Shiirn: i mean
12:01 Shiirn: if i stack directly on ends
12:01 Shiirn: i get
12:01 Shiirn: but oh well
12:01 Shiirn: "omg ur ruining flow" "omg unreadable"
12:01 Shiirn: fuck those people i'll stack them
12:01 sheela: it's personal taste just so you know
12:02 sheela: you don't have to apply
12:02 Shiirn: i like them stacked
12:02 Shiirn: myself
12:02 sheela: ook
12:04 sheela: i'm going to eat so i'll talk to you later
12:04 Shiirn: ok
12:05 Shiirn: ty for help

This is only a part of the mod lel. Here's the other part:

[REJUVENATE]

00:16:229 (1,2,3,4,5) - Move the first note closer to the end of the previous slider. The movement is not well welcomed here since it's pretty "untidy(?)".
00:48:470 (3,4) - This looks like if 00:48:814 (4) is a beat early, so players may get confused if it's a 1/4 rhythm or 1/2 rhythm. Perhaps the main cause is how the music is constructed, in my opinion, since you hear the "wubwub" sound starting on 00:48:470 and the usage of 1/4 rhythm in the section 00:46:573 . I suggest you break the slider 00:48:470 (3) into a kickslider and add a hitcircle on 00:48:642 .
00:54:160 (4) - A little related to above, yet the slider is only follow the wubwub sound, therefore skipping the "du-du" beats which are essential. This part is similar to 00:48:470 (3,4,5,6) so you can map 00:54:160 (4) using hitcircles.
01:02:263 (5) - I would transform the slider into two hitcircles on 01:02:263 and 01:02:436 . I can't find a proper reason, but it feels "natural" with clickable objects on "tu-Tu-TU" crescendo sound.
01:13:039 (2,2) - I'm not sure what you are trying to follow here when there's no beat on them. Maybe I'm deaf, but for 01:13:729 (2) -, the sound of 01:13:470 (1) ends on the red tick and restarts on 01:13:815 . That leaves a gap in-between, so there's no beat here, and there isn't any reason to add something there, in my opinion. Also, the flow isn't much great here and difficult to touch the note on the blue tick (based on my current gameplay level) I'd rather add hitcircles on the downbeat and its following red tick with a jump to emphasize the strong beats.
02:27:263 (1,2,3) - Consider using a small spacing when you're in a softer part of the music, otherwise it wouldn't make sense.

Good luck with ranking this map!

ARCskieZ

22 posts

Joined September 2013

ARCskieZ 2016-02-22T21:22:58+00:00

Mat's 4K MX would be really better without the jacked LN's.
Aside from that the chart is alot of fun, but these short jacked LN's are not fun to play.
I get that it fits the song, but I think it could be done better.

Kuki

722 posts

Joined October 2013

Kuki 2016-02-23T05:02:51+00:00

ARCskieZ wrote:
Mat's 4K MX would be really better without the jacked LN's.
Aside from that the chart is alot of fun, but these short jacked LN's are not fun to play.
I get that it fits the song, but I think it could be done better.

yeah, could do with some messing around a bit.

Shiirn

2,896 posts

Joined August 2010

Topic Starter

Shiirn 2016-02-25T05:19:11+00:00

mania modding is welcome, i haven't been actively searching for it

pls find me 7k HD maker

(and inner oni)

(those two seem cursed, like 3-4 have tried and didnt make it for various reasons)

bananannian

393 posts

Joined June 2014

bananannian 2016-02-25T09:56:17+00:00

Heyo~ I heard you need an Inner Oni, so I made one. It's a pretty gimmicky one too.

Banana's Inner Oni

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256,192,137434,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,137492,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,137550,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,137607,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,137780,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,137951,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,138124,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,138210,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,138296,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,138383,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,138469,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,138555,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,138641,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,138727,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,138813,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,138900,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,138987,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,139676,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,140021,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,140365,1,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,140538,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,140624,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,140711,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,140883,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,141056,1,12,0:0:0:0:
256,192,141400,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,141487,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,141573,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,141659,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,141745,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,141831,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,141918,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,142004,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,142090,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,142262,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,142435,1,12,0:0:0:0:
256,192,142780,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,142866,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,143211,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,143297,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,143383,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,143469,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,143642,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,143814,1,12,0:0:0:0:
256,192,143987,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,144073,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,144159,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,144245,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,144331,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,144418,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,144504,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,144676,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,144762,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,144849,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,144935,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,145021,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,192,145193,1,12,0:0:0:0:
256,192,150366,12,0,150711,0:0:0:0:

Consider this a draft, there's still much to fine-tune; feel free to reject it if you feel like it doesn't fit your set or if it's not good enough.

Cheers~ :3

ikin5050

583 posts

Joined February 2014

ikin5050 2016-02-25T12:58:59+00:00

willing to make an inner oni too... working on it now

banana wanna collab it otherwise?

Spaghetti

1,118 posts

Joined August 2014

Spaghetti 2016-02-26T00:01:55+00:00

mod requested (pretty short :c)

rejuven8:

how the fuck do i mod this LOL

00:16:573 (5,6) - this would be pretty neat as 1/8 but thats just me xd
00:32:091 (1) - wouldnt this be better ctrl+J'd due to the flow of the pattern?
01:07:953 (2) - itd be nice if you ended this on 01:08:341 - cuz there's a really loud trumpet noise there and no real sound on the end you have now
01:32:780 (4,5) - these would play better switched but again thats just me

this shiirn

fetish:

00:23:039 (2,3) - why not a triple? the double starts on a really weird beat and you're completely ignoring a sound on the red tick
01:20:367 (3) - why does it end on that beat lol
01:32:780 (1,1) - this spacing is really dangerous, it looks like a 1/2 slider going to a 1/4 slider, i'd change this

whats up with all these unsnapped slider ends i dont really understand

01:33:470 (1,2,3,4) - i dont think this is justified, you didnt do this anywhere else in this section

01:41:746 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - I dont understand this sections approach at all. why did you ignore the violin for half of it and compliment it the other half? very very inconsistent
02:24:763 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is kinda large for the difficulty of the map, maybe just nerf it to the point where they all at least touch? seems like a perfect place to choke

roshit:

I'd NC everytime the SV changes due to the fact that this map is under 4.5 stars. These SV changes can throw a lot of people off without the indication of it with an NC.

00:10:711 (1,2,3,4) - weird flow but ill take it

All these maps seemed very polished for the most part, and play pretty well. I haven't looked at the other difficulties (not to mentions the ones from other gamemodes) but from what ive seen, i think you should go for rank soon.

EphemeralFetish

472 posts

Joined May 2014

EphemeralFetish 2016-02-26T00:24:40+00:00

Spaghetti wrote:
mod requested (pretty short :c)
fetish:

00:23:039 (2,3) - why not a triple? the double starts on a really weird beat and you're completely ignoring a sound on the red tick - Im 99% sure there is nothing on that red tick.
01:20:367 (3) - why does it end on that beat lol - Was unsnapped.
01:32:780 (1,1) - this spacing is really dangerous, it looks like a 1/2 slider going to a 1/4 slider, i'd change this - Disagree but Ill change it if someone agrees.

whats up with all these unsnapped slider ends i dont really understand

01:33:470 (1,2,3,4) - i dont think this is justified, you didnt do this anywhere else in this section - I think its perfectly fine, but Im tired of defending this so whatever. Changed.
01:41:746 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - I dont understand this sections approach at all. why did you ignore the violin for half of it and compliment it the other half? very very inconsistent - Its not inconsistent. It works as a calm break section. And considering the violin ramps up a bit near the end thats why I decided to map it there. It also works nice as a section climax. Inconsistent would be if I kept switching between mapping it, then ignoring it. Rather than leading up to it.
02:24:763 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is kinda large for the difficulty of the map, maybe just nerf it to the point where they all at least touch? seems like a perfect place to choke - Plenty of other large spaced streams in the map. This is also a massive climax to the song so its perfectly justifiable, and as such it should be reflected in difficulty.
GL

Shiirn

2,896 posts

Joined August 2010

Topic Starter

Shiirn 2016-02-26T01:43:02+00:00

Spaghetti wrote:
mod requested (pretty short :c)
rejuven8:

how the fuck do i mod this LOL

00:16:573 (5,6) - this would be pretty neat as 1/8 but thats just me xd ok
00:32:091 (1) - wouldnt this be better ctrl+J'd due to the flow of the pattern? flow really doesnt matter when you're talking 1/1 patterns
01:07:953 (2) - itd be nice if you ended this on 01:08:341 - cuz there's a really loud trumpet noise there and no real sound on the end you have now This is following the bwaaaaaah in the foreground, the trumpet took me 5 go overs to even notice
01:32:780 (4,5) - these would play better switched but again thats just me That leads to some really weird cursor movement

this shiirn
GL

thx

Rohit6

425 posts

Joined August 2013

Rohit6 2016-02-26T08:39:37+00:00

Pastae wrote:
[box=mod requested (pretty short :c)]
roshit:

I'd NC everytime the SV changes due to the fact that this map is under 4.5 stars. These SV changes can throw a lot of people off without the indication of it with an NC. i think ive already done it throughout lo

00:10:711 (1,2,3,4) - weird flow but ill take it ur mom is weird flow

All these maps seemed very polished for the most part, and play pretty well. I haven't looked at the other difficulties (not to mentions the ones from other gamemodes) but from what ive seen, i think you should go for rank soon.
GL

http://puu.sh/nlUOE/0bc9e26ec8.txt

Shiirn

2,896 posts

Joined August 2010

Topic Starter

Shiirn 2016-02-26T16:25:26+00:00

added banana's inner oni

gimmicky as fuck, i approve. needs mods tho

other people dont like it very much i dunno it doesnt really matter

i'll pick whatever i like best as usual

Last edited by Shiirn 2016-02-26T16:56:42+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Rohit6

425 posts

Joined August 2013

Rohit6 2016-02-26T16:53:11+00:00

Rejuvenate

Letterbox something something

01:49:332 (1,2,3,4,5) - Up the spacing to support pitch change maybe
02:01:918 (6) - Move two pixels down and two pixels right xd
02:21:659 (4,1) - 02:23:038 (4,1) - nice meme

The Fetish's Extra

Letterbox something something

00:24:504 - Silence the 3/4 slider sliderends in this section because it sounds kinda meh
00:46:573 - NC's here are kinda weird because you do them on the 2nd white tick , sometimes on the first , I think NCs on downbeat work fine in this section so you might wanna remove NC's like 00:47:263 (1) , 00:48:642 (1)
00:51:746 (5) - Really expected a 1/4 slider here because it feels kinda empty
01:04:504 (1,1) - Bend it more inwards so it transitions well into the next section maybe like this
01:19:677 - End kiai here pleb
01:55:539 (1,2) - Silence sliderends
02:25:194 (7) - Add kiai burst here?

Spaghetti's Insane

Letterbox something something

00:24:504 - Silence 3/4 slider sliderends in this section thank
00:40:884 (1) - This passive slider doesnt really fit imo
01:03:125 (1,2) - Confusing spacing
01:07:263 (1,2) - Perfect overlap with the middle tick of the second slider
01:26:918 (7,9) - Kinda unaesthetic overlap
01:51:401 (13) - NC because downbeat
02:25:194 - Maybe kiai burst?

Rohit's Insane

Letterbox something something

kill yourself

Luel Roseline

1,034 posts

Joined February 2014

Luel Roseline 2016-02-26T16:59:40+00:00

Rohit6 wrote:
Rohit's Insane

Letterbox something something

kill yourself

lol

EphemeralFetish

472 posts

Joined May 2014

EphemeralFetish 2016-02-26T18:57:29+00:00

Rohit6 wrote:
The Fetish's Extra

Letterbox something something
00:24:504 - Silence the 3/4 slider sliderends in this section because it sounds kinda meh - 20% volume now. Sounds good my end.
00:46:573 - NC's here are kinda weird because you do them on the 2nd white tick , sometimes on the first , I think NCs on downbeat work fine in this section so you might wanna remove NC's like 00:47:263 (1) , 00:48:642 (1) - Went through and fixed some NC's in relation to this
00:51:746 (5) - Really expected a 1/4 slider here because it feels kinda empty - Drums, so the circles are more justifiable. The large movement to the 6 kinda fits for the highpitch sound as well. tl;dr I think its fine for now.
01:04:504 (1,1) - Bend it more inwards so it transitions well into the next section maybe like this - Tried something, had to move around the next combo but it all seems good.
01:19:677 - End kiai here pleb - Dude, amazing mistake by me. 11/10
01:55:539 (1,2) - Silence sliderends - At 20% again.
02:25:194 (7) - Add kiai burst here? - Ehh, I dont like doing that.

Side

1,127 posts

Joined October 2013

Side 2016-02-26T21:02:13+00:00

Here's a thing cuz Shiirn asked me a while back and I didn't want to and still don't want to but eh...why not :v

Normal

[Side's Normal]

HOLY GOODEST OF THE SHITS RIGHT THERE (rightthere) IF I DO SAY SO MYSELF

Ancient thing

[Anxient thing]

00:02:436 (1) - Normal addition finish would be cool here.

00:02:953 (2) - Might need whistle like 00:03:642 (4,1) - or 00:05:711 (2,3) - etc.

00:06:918 (2) - might also need whistle like 00:07:263 (3,4) -

00:07:953 (1,2) - Whistles...

00:18:987 (1) - Custom whistle for that drum sound

00:20:022 (4,1) - Remove custom whistle from (4)s slider end and clap from (1). Per the music the whistle should be on (1) instead.

00:23:211 (1) - Not too sure if this might cause some issues for players to read since the recovery time is just 1/1 and it's kinda like a light hard. I don't think that's an issue but what I have noticed is lower level players are usually still using mouse and when they spin they spin clockwise (to the right) so with the recovery time being lower than I expect anyway, the movement from 00:24:849 (1) - straight to the left might be a bit too sharp. Unfortunately my irl guineapigs aren't here to test this for me atm (lol) but if you did want a suggestion, you could try increasing the length of 00:22:436 (3) - to end at 00:23:039 - (it would mean removing the repeat of course) then adding a nice shapely 2/1 slider at 00:23:125 - something like this maybe (could be better just a rough example).

00:26:229 (3) - 00:28:987 (5) - Lots of whistles. Now I bring this up because 00:37:263 (5) - 00:40:022 (5) - don't have whistles and to me that sounds better because it's less whistle spam. What I suggest is removing the whistles from the first two so it's not so overbearing. But if you did want that whistle sound for whatever reason then add it to those last two sliders.

00:51:229 (4) - Whistle here sounds nice

01:01:056 (3) - Whistle on head and middle section to keep that rhythm going.

01:38:298 (3,4,1,2,3,4) - So two things you could try here are you can change the slider end of 01:38:298 (3) - to soft sample normal addition and then change all the other notes to soft addition so then finally adding whistles to the last four slider heads so it goes with the quieter violins OR keep the normal sample and instead lower the volume on the violin section a bit and still add soft whistle to the slider heads. I suggest the first one it sounds nicer :v

01:50:022 (1,2,3) - Spacing here looks a bit short compared to 01:47:263 (1,2,3,4,5) - for example since that uses 1.4x and this part currently has 1.0x so it looks like it might be 1/2. You could possibly add a note at 01:50:539 - between the sliders so the spacing doesn't change too much. Might look like this.

01:56:918 (1,2) - Add whistles on the white ticks for a nice effect with the flute thing

01:58:987 (3) - Whistle on slider end. Maybe also on the slider head to match the rhythm of the next combos like 02:00:367 (3,4,5,6) - etc

02:01:746 (3,4) - Same for these

02:16:918 (3) - Whistle on slider end

02:18:298 (4) - Clap on slider head

Gameplay looks fine.

Brofist's whatever

[Rohat's thing]

00:13:470 (1) - Drum hitfinish so you can get that low sound like 00:15:022 (2,3) - If you want to keep that soft hitwhistle sound ask shiirn to add a custom drum hitwhistle with the default soft hitwhistle sound for you or something.

00:14:160 (7) - Clap too. Same suggestion as above if you want to have the same custom clap as 00:15:539 (4) - Add one to normal hitclap or something.

00:16:229 (1) - Drum finish here too. I'm suggesting these because I'm expeciting you'll actually do the two above things...

00:16:918 (4) - Clap on head

00:18:987 (1) - Drum finish

00:19:677 (5) - Clap

00:20:539 (2) - 00:20:711 (4) - Drum finishes

00:21:056 (8) - Clap

00:21:746 (1) - Drum finish

00:22:436 (8) - Clap

00:23:125 (1) - Normal whistle I suppose.

00:28:642 (5) - Sounds like it deserves a whistle.

00:35:884 (2) - Whistle on slider head

00:36:918 (1) - Here too I'd say.

00:39:504 (4,1) - Also here I'd say whistle would sound better on (1) instead of (4). These suggestions I'm assuming you're trying to follow the chorus thing so that's what I'm basing these off of. You COULD still leave the whistle on (4) too but definitely still add one on (1)

00:43:815 (1,2,3) - WHISTLES yoooooooooooooooo

00:47:436 (4) - Drum finish

00:47:263 (3,4,5,6,1) - Movement from (6) to (1) is a bit weird. From (4) to (5) you snap kinda wide then (5) to (6) is short then (6) to (1) is long but (1) also goes straight up. Might not make sense but it doesn't feel too comfortable to snap to at least not for this difficulty I'd say. A suggestion for this could be to change 00:47:091 (2,3,4,5,6) - into a regular polygon star that looks a little like this maybe which looks nice, flows nicely (cuz everyone loves stars) and still emphasize (1) on the downbeat. (btw in the screenshot (2) starts at x:234 y:302 if you were wondering)

00:50:194 (5) - Drum finish

00:50:711 (1) - Drum finish as well (seriously make a custom for these so you can keep these hitsounds)

00:51:746 (6,7) - Don't see the need for these finishes. Maybe (7) it's okay because it could be following the wubs (idk if thats what you were planning) but otherwise remove both.

00:52:091 (1) - Finish would be here anyway from the previous suggestion :v (drum finish that is)

00:52:780 (3) - Drum finish on slider end.

00:54:160 (3) - Maybe normal whistle? or soft whistle to to compliment that one high pitch sound

00:55:194 (2,3) - Whistle on both slider ends and tails would better follow that broken up wub sound imo. Also add a clap on 00:55:194 (2) - slider head.

00:55:711 (5) - Drum finish

00:56:918 (1) - Drum finish on slider end

00:57:263 (1) - Clap on the head of this one too I would say per the music.

00:58:298 (3) - Drum finish on slider end

00:59:332 (3) - Clap

00:59:849 (6) - Drum finish

01:01:401 - ;-; could have been where the slider finished instead. Clap beat ignored you just triggered some people :v

01:02:091 (3) - Clap

01:03:125 (1) - Drum addition

01:03:987 (5) - Drum finish

01:05:367 (5) - Drum finish

01:06:660 (4) - AAAAAA why is the volume so low now??? I get its a slower section but at least 60% like on the other slower parts so it's not so quiet compared to the rest of the song.

01:09:332 (3) - Clap

01:10:022 (1,2) - Drum finish on slider end of (1) and slider head of (2)

01:12:780 (1,3) - Normal whistles (or even soft whistles) would sound cool on these imo to follow that synth thing or whatever that is.

01:14:849 (3) - Clap

01:15:539 (1,2) - Drum finishes :v (slider end of 1 and slider head of 2)

01:24:504 (2) - Clap. You have it here 01:21:746 (2) -

01:27:263 (2) - Clap. Same as above.

01:35:539 (1) - CLAP YO

01:37:608 (1) - Drum Finish (slider head)

01:40:367 (3) - Whistle to follow that twinkly instrument thing like you sort of did at 01:39:677 (2) - . you COULD add them on all four notes 3-6 but not necessary.

01:40:367 (3) - Put some volume on this note yo.

01:58:987 (3) - Whistle would be nice here. Also 01:59:160 (4) - Drum finish

02:00:539 (6) - Drum finish

02:01:746 (3) - Whistle would also be nice here (slider head).

02:04:504 (3,4) - Same suggestion as uh....the other part where I suggested normal whistles on slider head and ends to follow that broken up wub thing. 02:04:677 (4) - Also drum finish on the slider head of this one.

02:06:056 (5) - Drum finish

02:07:263 (4) - Drum finish on slider head and slider end of this to follow the drum stuffs

02:08:729 - This should be a clap not drum finish btw.

02:10:194 (4) - Drum finish

02:12:953 (5) - Drum finish and clap on 02:13:125 (7) -

02:13:470 (1) - Drum finish

02:15:711 (4) - Drum finish

02:18:987 (1) - Soft finish could go here if you want.

Didn't pay too much attention to gameplay but it looked okay I suppose. Could use a few more checks just in case though :v

Espaguetti

[Pasghetti's thing]

Nice sv change stuffs dood. Also diff plays well so nice job bro!

00:26:229 (1,2) - Consider muting slider ends. This applies to the other sliders like these if you do.

01:24:849 (4,5) - Whistles on these two might be nice to follow the twinkly piano thingy whatever that is

01:27:608 (1,2) - Same for these if the above was applied etc.

01:40:367 (1,1,1,1) - Muting these slider ends would sound much nicer as well imo.

02:25:884 - Maybe use soft whistles in this section to also follow that piano thing whatever that is.

02:30:367 - Green timing is unsnapped (dunno if this will be an issue tho)

02:30:367 (1,2) - Also if you do that whistle thing in this section changing this to soft sample would sound nicer as well imo :v

Fetish's thing

[Giggity]

00:10:539 (1) - Whistle on this one would be nice. Maybe just on the slider head but it could be both slider head and end. Your choice.

01:22:436 (1) - Remove normal addition from this. I was gonna suggest adding it to the other ones like 01:19:677 (1) - 01:25:194 (1) - 01:27:953 (1) - but since those are all using soft samples and having the whistles follow that low sound instead it made more sense to suggest removing the normal additions from 01:22:436 (1) - instead. Plus it goes better with this quieter section.

01:51:401 (6) - I think maybe a soft finish goes better here instead of a clap...or a soft whistle.

Plays well too. Good job!

Shiirn's skin care product

[Shiirn's thing]

Fun to play with no fail :^)

Also suggest raising the volume of that custom clap by a little bit. It's pretty quiet compared to the other hitsounds

00:03:125 (1) - Whistle on slider head might be nice. Up to you but it sounds like later on you do hitsound to this synth thing like 00:05:884 (1,2,3,1,2) - etc.

00:03:470 (1) - Dont think this finish is needed. Well I can't hear what it follows and other similar notes like 00:06:229 (2) - dont have it.

00:12:263 (2,3,4) - Whistles on these also sound nice eye em oh.

00:13:470 (1) - 00:16:229 (1) - I think these supposed to be normal sample drum addition to follow that low note thing. Dunno if you had something else in mind though.

00:24:504 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Didn't work for felys just saying /me runs

00:30:022 -00:42:953 - Missing hitsounds? uh...lots you could do here with em just saying.

00:53:125 (6) - Clap with drum addition

00:53:815 (2) - ^

00:55:194 (1) - Clap here if you could somehow anyway

00:58:642 (3) - Sections pretty quiet considering it's kiai and all the previous sections were around 70-80 ish. Raise the volume in this section.

01:03:987 (4) - Normal sample on slider head

01:04:160 (6) - Clap here if possible

01:05:367 (4) - Normal sample on slider head

01:06:919 (5) - Clap here with drum addition.

01:12:780 (1) - Normal sample on slider end.

01:13:470 (1) - This section could also be a bit louder imo maybe 60% depending on how much you raised the other one by.

01:16:918 (2) - Normal sample soft addition and finish like 01:08:642 (1) - 01:11:401 (1) - etc. This one might sound nice without the normal sample too if you just want the finish so it kinda imitates what the music is doing.

01:18:298 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Whistles could probably follow that little 1/2 sound. Not needed though.

01:19:677 (1) - AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA see this is why I don't like pitched hitsounds!!!! the pitch in this hitsound is dissonant to what happens in the song. Highly suggest getting someone who's good at tweaking pitches to change this to G# or C maybe...even then it might not sound that nice cuz of the way the hitsound plays. Try checking out some of LordRaika's bell hitsounds samples. I think a normal sounding bell sounds nicer tbh. Or better yet delete this and don't get a bell at all :^)

01:22:436 (1) - Same tbh

01:25:194 (1) - Also not sure why you didn't do that custom normal whistle here or 01:27:953 (1) - here

01:59:160 (2) - Normal sample (slider head)

01:59:677 (2) - Normal sample soft addition

02:00:538 (5) - Normal sample (slider head)

02:01:056 (1) - ^ (to get these low kick sounds)

02:01:918 (6) - ^

02:04:160 (2) - GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

02:04:676 (3) - Normal sample soft addition

02:05:194 (1) - ^

02:06:573 (2) - ^

02:09:332 (1) - WROOOOOOAAAAAAHHH (sorry I don't like that bell. Makes me think I'm selecting a car in some racing game or something lol)

02:10:711 (1) - Think you're using normal sample soft addition for that low kick sound instead of drum

02:12:091 (1) - ^

02:12:952 (3) - ^

02:13:124 (5) - drum clap

02:13:470 (1) - Normal sample

02:14:849 (1) - Normal sample soft addition

02:15:194 (2) - STAAAAAAAAAHP ;A;

02:17:608 (1) - Normal sample soft addition

02:21:056 (2) - KILL MEEEEEEEEEEE okillstopnow

02:27:953 (3) - Whistle on slider end sounds nice too

Stepmania but with too many long notes

Uh...I don't know shit about modding mania but I play it a little so I'll point out things that feel weird but I have no idea why.

HD feels fine. Sightread screenshot

MX has some parts that were weird to read but idk if it's cuz I'm that bad or what Sightread screenshot

It's mostly around the kiai like the jacks and stuff or whatever they're called when 1/2 or 1/4 notes stacked on the same line those play fine but then there are notes like 00:52:263 (52263|2) - that I can't really hear from the music and they're stacked so my hands don't feel like they would need to be there idk. Should probably look for some more mania mods though wouldn't hurt.

Had to format cuz wall of text lol. Hope this helps. Good luck!

ikin5050

583 posts

Joined February 2014

ikin5050 2016-02-27T00:27:13+00:00

Here's my diff,

im gonna talk with banana a bit to see if he can deflate his diff a tiny bit so the spread can be more appropriate (if you like this diff)

have a nice day

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Rohit6

425 posts

Joined August 2013

Rohit6 2016-02-27T07:47:25+00:00

applied everything from side's mod

https://puu.sh/nn4VJ/eb02a175f2.rar Add this in the folder pls shiirno

EphemeralFetish

472 posts

Joined May 2014

EphemeralFetish 2016-02-27T21:14:10+00:00

Applied all of Sides mod. That part about the normal addition was actually a mistake. So gg for spotting that.

koliron

791 posts

Joined July 2014

koliron 2016-02-28T07:43:43+00:00

Platter

Te voy a hacer en español, porque tengo ganas :3

00:08:298 (5,6) - supongo que la idea acá no es que haga un salto, es dificil llegar a atrapar la cola de (6) sin tener que utilizar dash, yo creo que sería mejor siendo un poco menos horizontal, y tal vez un como más cerca (y si era dash, por favor una distancia más obvia ): )
00:09:332 (1,2) - prueba en testear estos sliders <.< siento que las semillas de (1) incomodan el movimiento, una cruva así podría funcionar mejor
00:16:229 (1) - 00:18:987 (1) - 01:41:746 (1) - 01:44:504 (1) - 01:47:263 (1) - hummmm, la idea no es que el jugador se mueva verdad? (por favor decí que no), bueno entonces creo que el plato queda algo chico para atrapar estos sliders, yo creo que sería mejor haciendolos como en 00:55:194 (2) - ~~o un poco más~~
00:27:953 (3,4) - Ahhh ): esperaba un dash en acá, el sonido tiene más que la fuerza suficiente :<<< toma en cuenta que incluso añadiste hyper en 00:36:573 (4,1) - , el cual es bastante parecido
00:42:091 (4,1) - ^ algo parecido
00:59:332 (2,3) - 01:07:091 (4,1) - 02:00:022 (2,3) - aaa tal vez la distancia es un poco mucha D:
01:18:298 (1,2,3,4) - veo que añadiste distancia al 4 porque el sonido va aumentando, tal vez tambien un poquito a 3 entonces(? (ah de paso, por qué no una distancia un poco más notable? probá´en testearlo, yo a simple vista no puedo ver que (4) esté más a la izq)
01:19:677 - En este parte no hay un solo dash 100% asegurado ): es intencional? yo creo que podrías añadir alguno como en 01:24:849 (3,1) - o en 01:27:608 (3,1) -
02:10:711 (1,2) - aaaa siento la falta de un hyper, este sonido esta en otras partes pero no se escucha con tanta claridad como acá
02:30:022 (3,4) - En realidad, es la unica distancia confusa que encontré, a simple vista no parece dash (y de hecho, no lo es, podés agarrar la fruta con el borde), pero es facil de perder si no se usa ))): por qué no un poquito más de distancia? nnnooo afecctta nnaaddaa

I love this platter, srsly, nice job as always zirox :3

Rain

00:02:436 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - Hum xD i think is a lot of time in the right, maybe putting this pattern a bit to the left? you could because will not change the normal movement in 00:04:504 (3,1) -
00:04:160 (2,3) - Hum, really that sound deserves hyper? o.o a normal dash it's enough i guess
00:09:504 (2,3,4,5) - 00:20:538 (2,3,4) - Please, this is not a rain pattern, i think could be beter without 00:09:677 (3,4) - this hyper because 00:09:677 - has a strong piano in comparision
00:11:746 (4,1,2) - If you want to keep those previous hypers, please reduce the distance to 00:12:263 (2) - , is so hard do a 1/2 dash after 1/4 hyper, specially if is to the oppsite direction
00:13:125 (5,1,2) - Hum, is something similar here, you cant 00:13:470 (1) - ctrl+g and move to the left? ;w; to do a normal stream
00:16:229 (1,2,3) - Are almost the same sounds, why that stroong distance to (3)? ok, if you listen reaally detalied, you can listen a different note in (3), you did this for that? i think is totally impossible to notice in game ):
00:22:004 (2,3) - Maybe a biut less distance? feels hard
00:29:677 (3,1,2,3,4,1) - Hum, some hypers in this section its fine because is a rain, but this pattern i think is a lot xD please remove some ): for example, only to 00:30:022 (1) - 00:30:711 (3) - 00:31:401 (1) - is much better, are the strongest voice and instrument
00:33:125 (2,3,4,1) - ^
00:40:022 (2,3,4,1) - The distancesd are fine but this pattern is so hard to play xD please try to change this :C maybe with less curved sliders?
00:48:470 (3,4) - 00:53:987 (3,4) - Whoaaaa, is weird, i don't know how to explain why, i think 00:48:642 - this sound is necessary to use, maybe with
this
00:55:194 (2,3) - aaaa seems weird :C i suggest do (3) same as (2), just for aesthetic
01:02:091 (2,3,4,5) - Whoa, evil stream o.o with 01:02:177 (3,4) - a bit to the left feels better for me
01:04:159 (6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Hum, maybe could be a bit repetitive ono try with ctrl+h 01:04:849 (3,4,5,6) - and a good position again, just to vary more, since there there are a different suond so would be nice ^o^
01:50:538 (5) - A bit to the left? this streams seems a bit weird aesthetically
01:57:091 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^ something similar :< maybe reducing those distances and 01:57:435 (4,5,6) - a bit to the right, suddenly the distance in 01:57:349 (3,4) - is so short, obviously is just other option of stream :b actually is following good the instrument
02:04:504 (4,5) - aaaa so hard! D: try to reduce the distance between these sldiers if you want to keep the direction of (4)
02:11:056 (3,4,5,6,7) - ^ something similar, maybe 02:11:746 (7) - a bit to the left? or just doing 02:11:401 (6,7) - as one long slider
02:20:453 - Ok srsly, this section is like an hard overdose, a lot of 1/4 hypers with a high density of notes, i understand that this song deserves a hard rain, but i really suggest nerf those patterns

~~UltraDeluge~~Imagination

Distances are fine, almost all of my suggestions would be about the flow, i think you neeed work on it

00:06:832 (2,3,4) - 00:07:522 (5,6,1) - really this movement is sooo hard, could be really much better doing those sliders a bit more vertical, even to the opposite direction
00:09:504 (2,3,4) - 00:49:677 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 02:15:539 (4,5,6,7) - 01:59:849 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - :c those sliders with hyper are fine when is.. for example 1/2 hypers, with 1/2 sliders, here is soo hard (i tried and tried but still fail in one of these patterns, maybe not all, but i really suggest change these to this (i dont know how to explain in english, but you will understand with the screenmshot i guess)
00:10:539 (6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - really so hard, please, maybe reducing a bit those distances, also reducing the distance in 00:10:711 (1,2) - 00:11:056 (3,4) - 00:11:401 (5,6) - 00:11:746 (7,8) - , then these the jumps could be much more comfortable
00:12:263 (2) - ctrl+g? you can keep the hyper anyway
00:15:884 (6,1,2,3,4,5) - antiflow here? waaa please dont be so evil ;__; you can ctrl+h 00:16:229 (1,2,3,4) - and good opsition again without problems
00:18:557 (5,6) - seriously, try to test this, when you press the dash you need sddenly go to the oppsite direction, is too "mechanical movement" in my opinion, 00:18:642 (6) - this slider can fit well if you do it more vertical, this sound is not sooo strong to do 100% horizontal, then the movement would be much better
00:22:004 (2,3) - Really this hyper is so necessary? xD there is not a strong sound, at leasdt in game is totally impossible to notice
00:22:436 (7,8,1) - Same here, huh, i think is better only to (1)
00:23:298 (2,3) - Hyper wall to wall aaaa please reduce, you can keep the hyper and still reduce a lot the distance
00:24:849 (2,3) - 00:26:229 (4) - 00:27:953 (3) - 00:28:987 (5) - 00:33:125 (2) - 00:34:160 (1) - 00:34:849 (3) - 00:37:263 (2) - 00:40:022 (2) - These sliders a bit more vertical maybe? seems like is necessary use a dash in the middle, but is not
00:46:573 - In this kiai, almost all objects have hyper, there are like 10 that has not, please, is an overdose, but with this the meaning of "hyper" is lost, you cant percive the strongest sounds, all are not exactly the same, i dont wanna be rude, is just my opinion
for example, 00:52:780 (4,5,6) - even in game, the sounds in 00:52:780 (4,6) - are strongest, i coulkd suggest remove the hyper to 00:52:867 (5) - (also 00:52:608 (3) - maybe doing this with 4 circles, and a normal curve)
00:53:298 (8,1,2,3,4) - or here, why you did all sliders with the direction to the middle? is much easier to the walls
00:54:849 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Or this, especially this, yeah there are no more options to changes the hypers, but in my opinion is noot good, feels so weird and is like a hyperspam, even if is not, this time is better remove all of these and keep a normal 1/4 stream, is not necessary follow 100% perfect the song, i understand that is part of your style, but you could do exceptions for those patterns, the rhythm wouldn't be lost without this xD
00:54:160 (1,2) - Maybe those sldiers a bit more vertical? then will be easier to catch all
00:58:125 (3) - Ctrl+g? the hyper would be easier to do aaaa
01:12:004 (2,3,4,5) - aaaa same as above, so hard to catch the others, maybe doing this streams with less distances?
01:12:953 - A reverse here? ovo
01:14:849 (3,4,5,6,1) - Ok it's a fun pattern and is not soo hard, but maybe these sliders a bit less horizontal? aaa feels a bit weird jklfdjlsfk
01:15:884 (3,4) - Listened in game, this hypers don't fit, is not possible to appreciate the sound in the head to (4)
01:34:849 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - aaaa so hard movement to 9! maybe with ctrl+h and position again in 1-8?
01:36:229 (1,2,3,4) - 01:36:918 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - 01:38:987 (1,2,3,4) - 01:39:677 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same as in the kiai, even you can follow other sounds here xD
01:37:737 (4) - a tiny bit to the right? so detalied i know, but the aesthetinc of this stream would be better
01:39:677 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ~~clsw is back guys :^)~~
01:41:746 - Ok, has not a lot of hypers as above, bit this part is so relax ): try to compare with spec's gd, this part has like 5 hypers, you even add some 2 hypers in line x.x i think this section need some nerfs, dont will suggest it becqause htis mod is already so long, i dont wanna be irritanting aaaa
01:53:125 - Maybne those sldiers mooore vertical? to "prepare" the player to the kiai owo also without hypers could be better xD
01:59:418 (7,1,2) - Try to test it :C i cant fc only this xD need a lot of tries ;__; maybe doing it with the same direction? that is, 01:59:849 - this patter to the left
Okay in this kiai a basically i suggest the same, as the previous, almost all objects have hyper, i can't feel the strongest sounds ;__;
02:12:780 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - I need highlight this e.e even are not strong
02:11:401 (4) - 02:16:918 (4) - more vertical maybe(?
02:21:401 (7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4) - aaa hard movement ;__; try with 1-4 ctrl+h and other position

aaa to be honest i think the rain and overdose are too hard, i mean, usually i dont want to suggest big changes, but the rain feels almost as an overdose and the overdose as ~~ultra~~something really higher, i recommend nerf a bit those difficuties (don't care about the sr, i mean in game)
Other option is just add other overdose in the middle, then the mb's could be as the higher overdose, but still nerf ~~less~~the rain

i love a lot this song, good luck :3

Yuzeyun

7,622 posts

Joined September 2010

Yuzeyun 2016-02-28T18:31:53+00:00

THA FIDDY

Also, after experimenting, I found that adding a +75 vertical offset on the BG makes it look better in Taiko mode. (Proof)

I think you know how to do it, but better say it just in case: it's in the [Events] field, it should look like this:

0,0,"REVIVE.png",0,0

And replace the last 0 with 75.

MBomb

MBomb 2016-02-28T20:42:38+00:00

koliron wrote:

~~UltraDeluge~~Imagination

Distances are fine, almost all of my suggestions would be about the flow, i think you neeed work on it
00:06:832 (2,3,4) - 00:07:522 (5,6,1) - really this movement is sooo hard, could be really much better doing those sliders a bit more vertical, even to the opposite direction - I think the strength of the slider movement fits the song nicely, so I decided to use rhythmical antiflow here.
00:09:504 (2,3,4) - 00:49:677 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 02:15:539 (4,5,6,7) - 01:59:849 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - :c those sliders with hyper are fine when is.. for example 1/2 hypers, with 1/2 sliders, here is soo hard (i tried and tried but still fail in one of these patterns, maybe not all, but i really suggest change these to this (i dont know how to explain in english, but you will understand with the screenmshot i guess) - This would make this difficulty far too easy, even like a rain, and the antiflow on these sliders works fine in terms with how the song feels, as well as the fact faster sliders than these have been used on ranked maps (Not using ranked maps as the only reason to justify, but yeah.)
00:10:539 (6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - really so hard, please, maybe reducing a bit those distances, also reducing the distance in 00:10:711 (1,2) - 00:11:056 (3,4) - 00:11:401 (5,6) - 00:11:746 (7,8) - , then these the jumps could be much more comfortable - This pattern really isn't too hard, you even have some reaction time how it is now, no reason to increase this reaction time (In fact, that would make it harder due to overdashing being a lot easier.
00:12:263 (2) - ctrl+g? you can keep the hyper anyway - You complain about this section being too hard, but ctrl+g on this makes it harder for me...
00:15:884 (6,1,2,3,4,5) - antiflow here? waaa please dont be so evil ;__; you can ctrl+h 00:16:229 (1,2,3,4) - and good opsition again without problems - Ctrl+H on this pattern makes it feel so boring, and again, way too easy for an overdose. This is a style movement I have done in previous maps (For example, Persona Invocation), and I love the way it plays, so I'd prefer to keep this.
00:18:557 (5,6) - seriously, try to test this, when you press the dash you need sddenly go to the oppsite direction, is too "mechanical movement" in my opinion, 00:18:642 (6) - this slider can fit well if you do it more vertical, this sound is not sooo strong to do 100% horizontal, then the movement would be much better - I feel the sounds here indicate at snap jumps, and this is a very easy one (I do not miss it in any of my tests).
00:22:004 (2,3) - Really this hyper is so necessary? xD there is not a strong sound, at leasdt in game is totally impossible to notice - The pitch changes here make the hyper feel fitting to me.
00:22:436 (7,8,1) - Same here, huh, i think is better only to (1) - The change in sounds here indicates a HDash to me to 8, and then to 1 as you mentioned is fine.
00:23:298 (2,3) - Hyper wall to wall aaaa please reduce, you can keep the hyper and still reduce a lot the distance - Reduced slightly.
00:24:849 (2,3) - 00:26:229 (4) - 00:27:953 (3) - 00:28:987 (5) - 00:33:125 (2) - 00:34:160 (1) - 00:34:849 (3) - 00:37:263 (2) - 00:40:022 (2) - These sliders a bit more vertical maybe? seems like is necessary use a dash in the middle, but is not - I never feel like I have to dash for these, they're comfortable without it.
00:46:573 - In this kiai, almost all objects have hyper, there are like 10 that has not, please, is an overdose, but with this the meaning of "hyper" is lost, you cant percive the strongest sounds, all are not exactly the same, i dont wanna be rude, is just my opinion
for example, 00:52:780 (4,5,6) - even in game, the sounds in 00:52:780 (4,6) - are strongest, i coulkd suggest remove the hyper to 00:52:867 (5) - (also 00:52:608 (3) - maybe doing this with 4 circles, and a normal curve) - 5 feels the same strength as the others for me, so the hyper feels fine, however, I did change the repeat slider to be a normal curve.
00:53:298 (8,1,2,3,4) - or here, why you did all sliders with the direction to the middle? is much easier to the walls - I like the way the antiflow feels, especially during this kiai, and again, sliders like this are generally part of my style.
00:54:849 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Or this, especially this, yeah there are no more options to changes the hypers, but in my opinion is noot good, feels so weird and is like a hyperspam, even if is not, this time is better remove all of these and keep a normal 1/4 stream, is not necessary follow 100% perfect the song, i understand that is part of your style, but you could do exceptions for those patterns, the rhythm wouldn't be lost without this xD - It fits the song nicely, in fact, you even said they did, but you want me to change it anyway because it feels like hyperspam? Sorry but I can't understand that logic. It feels like hyperspam because it is hyperspam, because that's what fits the song.
00:54:160 (1,2) - Maybe those sldiers a bit more vertical? then will be easier to catch all - These are already pretty easy to catch all, I don't see much point in changing.
00:58:125 (3) - Ctrl+g? the hyper would be easier to do aaaa - It actually feels harder to me with a ctrl+g o.o
01:12:004 (2,3,4,5) - aaaa same as above, so hard to catch the others, maybe doing this streams with less distances? - If I reduce the distance, overdashing becomes a lot more of a problem, in my eyes.
01:12:953 - A reverse here? ovo - Placed a slider end here, but made it a 1/2 slider and then a circle instead.
01:14:849 (3,4,5,6,1) - Ok it's a fun pattern and is not soo hard, but maybe these sliders a bit less horizontal? aaa feels a bit weird jklfdjlsfk - Making the sliders less horizontal makes the flow feel off as overdashing is caused by following the flow.
01:15:884 (3,4) - Listened in game, this hypers don't fit, is not possible to appreciate the sound in the head to (4) - There is a high pitched *pew* sound here, which has indicated a hyper at every other section, so here feels good too.
01:34:849 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - aaaa so hard movement to 9! maybe with ctrl+h and position again in 1-8? - Reduced hyper distance slightly, but I think Ctrl+H would make this pattern boring because it'd be so repetitive with everything else.
01:36:229 (1,2,3,4) - 01:36:918 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - 01:38:987 (1,2,3,4) - 01:39:677 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same as in the kiai, even you can follow other sounds here xD - I feel like this is one of the most iconic parts of the map. It's fun to play, and even you admit it fits, just because it feels like hyperspam, doesn't instantly mean it's "bad".
01:37:737 (4) - a tiny bit to the right? so detalied i know, but the aesthetinc of this stream would be better - Done.
01:39:677 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ~~clsw is back guys :^)~~
01:41:746 - Ok, has not a lot of hypers as above, bit this part is so relax ): try to compare with spec's gd, this part has like 5 hypers, you even add some 2 hypers in line x.x i think this section need some nerfs, dont will suggest it becqause htis mod is already so long, i dont wanna be irritanting aaaa - But also consider the fact this map is more difficult in general than Spec's gd, and the fact that spec's gd was his mapping style, not mine, and also the fact I'm pretty sure a different mp3 was used here, as the song in general sounds more intense.
01:53:125 - Maybne those sldiers mooore vertical? to "prepare" the player to the kiai owo also without hypers could be better xD - I'm not really sure what you mean by this, but the HDashes fit the strong sounds to me, so I'm leaving those in, but the part about preparing the player I'm confused about...
01:59:418 (7,1,2) - Try to test it :C i cant fc only this xD need a lot of tries ;__; maybe doing it with the same direction? that is, 01:59:849 - this patter to the left - I've never missed this, I really don't see how this is hard, in fact, this is one of the easier parts of the kiai...
Okay in this kiai a basically i suggest the same, as the previous, almost all objects have hyper, i can't feel the strongest sounds ;__; - Again, this is simply a stylistic issue, this kiai time fits how the song sounds to me perfectly, the strength of a hyper doesn't deteriorate to me just because I used more...
02:12:780 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - I need highlight this e.e even are not strong - These are "wub" sounds that I've been using HDashes for the whole time. Make sure to test it. These sound a lot stronger in play than they do in editor.
02:11:401 (4) - 02:16:918 (4) - more vertical maybe(? - Same as the earlier suggestion.
02:21:401 (7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4) - aaa hard movement ;__; try with 1-4 ctrl+h and other position - Would feel too repetitive if there was no antiflow in this section, I feel this flows really well, so no changes.

aaa to be honest i think the rain and overdose are too hard, i mean, usually i dont want to suggest big changes, but the rain feels almost as an overdose and the overdose as ~~ultra~~something really higher, i recommend nerf a bit those difficuties (don't care about the sr, i mean in game)
Other option is just add other overdose in the middle, then the mb's could be as the higher overdose, but still nerf ~~less~~the rain

i love a lot this song, good luck :3

Thanks for the mod! Sorry for not accepting much, but most of your mod was based on stylistic differences, so I'd prefer to keep my style in the map.

Also made a few changes myself to some spacings.

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