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Xenophilius
Hi! Mod request my ingame PM.

Raika's 7k
  1. 01:12:158 (72158|0,72236|2,72314|4,72392|5,72471|3,72549|1,72627|2,72705|4,72783|6,72861|3,72939|5,73017|6) - You don't think lenght of these LNs is a bit awkward to play? I suggest you to make the pattern more like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4782958 with 1/2 LNs, so the player always have a release and an hit. Easyer to play and less frustrating.
  2. 01:53:721 (113721|0,113773|1,113825|2,113877|6,113929|5,113981|4,114033|0,114085|1,114137|2,114189|3,114241|4,114293|5) - 02:14:033 (134033|0,134111|2,134189|4,134267|6) - 03:01:064 (181064|4,181142|3,181221|2,181299|1,181377|0) - Same, I don't like 3/8 LNs, feel strange to play.
  3. 02:33:642 - Just a suggestion: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4782990
  4. 03:16:221 - Why not end these LNs in 1/4 snap? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4783028
  5. 03:51:924 - Why 6 notes? There's nothing so relevant to layer with 6 notes.
LordRaika

Xenophilius wrote:

you have a good point of the mod, but i know really well the LN that i map... that it was intended, ofc in playability too.
here is my reply :


Raika's 7k
  1. 01:12:158 (72158|0,72236|2,72314|4,72392|5,72471|3,72549|1,72627|2,72705|4,72783|6,72861|3,72939|5,73017|6) - You don't think lenght of these LNs is a bit awkward to play? I suggest you to make the pattern more like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4782958 with 1/2 LNs, so the player always have a release and an hit. Easyer to play and less frustrating.
    1/4short LN here require you to hit it with delicacy, or just do it very fast, to get 300s, since the length is only around 80ms
    this 3/8 has a good length which is around 120ms, bcs "normally" a normal key press took around 100-130ms while playing.
    while 1/2 has a bit too long and require u too hold 1, release 1, and press new one, for each 1/4 which is... harder...

    thts why i choose 3/8, player just simply have to hit like normally, no need to worry about a delicate touch, just do hit it like normal note.
    you can try this with F5 inside editor, by removing all other note from the entire difficulty aside this LN... to test the differences and which is easier to get 300s. i really prefer 3/8 here. ^^

    but still... if some more player really have trouble on this, i will really change it later.


    that will answer all of your 3/8 concern and why i really choose it >w<
    as u can see, i choose 3/8 a lots all over the difficulty... since well.. its easier.... (at least for me)
    this difficulty(lv6-7k) on last chorus can show you how this LN could be easily 300s.

     
     
  2. 02:33:642 - Just a suggestion: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4782990
    its niceeee, but i really prefer the current one as its easier XD (for acc) and to follow up for next 1/4
    i mean this 02:34:111 (154111|6,154189|4,154267|2) - (to prevent sudden mini jack if using your pattern)

     
  3. 03:16:221 - Why not end these LNs in 1/4 snap? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4783028
    to have all this 4 LN consistent LN release length which is important....

    but wait....
    after testing this, especially if this two 03:16:299 (196299|2,196455|6) - ends at 1/4
    its easier to get 300s because its exact 1 release and 1 press at the "same" time, all of this occur once for each hand....
    which is still easy, ignoring the snap differences... for example from 03:16:637 (196637|2) - to next release is nowhere near exact snap.
    but its on the other hand, which is completely okay as it is....

     
     
  4. 03:51:924 - Why 6 notes? There's nothing so relevant to layer with 6 notes.
    for a perfect shield pattern... AND it does have the huge impact, cymbal, bass kick, and the main rhythm.
Thx for the mod, ^^
dw, its actually a good things....



changelog :
-make HP9 and OD8, yes it suits here perfectly for all of this concern...
suppose to not a totally easy pp map and more strict acc is balanced for the comfortable and easy pattern.
-do some changes by testplayers... and rearrange some pattern.

Update > http://puu.sh/nSnSS.zip
Topic Starter
Kyousuke-
okkie upd8
waiting for pya tho
PyaKura
Dropping in to say I have not forgotten about this map and will proceed with the mod as soon as I am done with Level_51's Double Helix.
_underjoy
Hello! Sorry for waiting so long, been busy.
4K mod inside
00:03:955 (3955|3) - it's a ghost note, doesn't correspond to layering after
00:06:299 (6299|3) - this is a ghost note too. Can't hear the sound for it.
00:14:111 - you lack a note here. Compare with 00:04:033 -
00:17:158 (17158|3,17158|0,17236|2,17314|1,17392|2,17471|0,17471|3) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4846863 plays much better because it removes the big anchor on 2. It's now a lot more clean.
00:24:111 - same as 00:14:111, add a note.
00:27:158 (27158|0,27158|3,27236|2,27314|1,27392|2,27471|0,27471|3,27549|1,27627|0,27705|1,27783|2,27783|3,27861|1,27861|0,27939|3,27978|2,28017|1,28056|0,28096|1,28096|2,28096|3) - I suggest to do the same pattern as in 00:17:158, but mirror it (ctrl+H the whole changed sequence).
00:51:846 (51846|0,51846|3) - delete the note at 1. It's just a piano sound, not accented.
01:22:158 (82158|0) - move to 3, to delete the 3-anchor on 1. The burst afterwards plays better this way.
01:22:627 (82627|3,82705|2) - swap those two? reflects the pitch a bit better I think (and is a natural followup of the pattern on burst)
01:31:377 (91377|2) - this note should be on 1. The anchor on right hand combined with the jack after is too much for the right hand, it needs some balance.
01:34:033 (94033|3,94033|0,94033|2) - two notes suffice here. The sound is different.
02:01:533 (121533|1,121611|2,121689|1,121767|2,121846|1,121924|2,122002|1) - ouch it's not a good idea with the minijack. Try this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4846944
03:03:096 (183096|0,183174|1,183252|2,183330|1,183408|0,183486|2) - I think you should use an 121212 trill here. The music clearly suggests it.
03:05:517 (185517|2,185674|1,185986|2,186142|2) - they seem like ghost notes, and even if they're not, they're barely audible. I'd not map them. Also, revise the chords that happen without those notes because they seem not structured with the notes deleted.
03:13:096 (193096|3,193174|1,193252|2,193330|1,193408|3,193486|2) - the same idea with the trill on the other hand instead.
03:15:361 (195361|1,195517|1) - ghost notes IMO too
03:16:533 (196533|0,196572|1,196611|2,196650|3,196689|0,196728|1,196767|2,196806|3) - this is 1/6, not 1/8!
03:24:502 (204502|2) - I'd go with the main line of piano and not map this (because there's no piano for that)
03:26:221 (206221|0) - cosmetic change: move to 3, or change the chord to [14] to reflect the pitch.
03:28:877 - you forgot a chord here, so I suggest this pattern: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4847050 . Also, I didn't check the snaps so I hope you're correct.
03:34:658 (214658|0,214658|1,214658|3) - delete one. it should be 2-chord.
03:58:564 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4847082 I think you should go with the similar pattern as in the first part. It also plays better than the one you used (it's not bad, but it's hard to nail and many people would fc the map to this point and miss here then rage.)
04:26:377 (266377|1,266767|1) - those notes are not needed. You didn't map the background sounds for that section, and the first note is such a background sound. The second note was probably meant to be a part of the windup but it starts 04:26:846 - here.
04:54:189 (294189|1,294267|2) - in my opinion it would be good as a minijack. Do what you want ;)

Nice map! Good luck!
PS I've noticed the copy-paste =.=
Topic Starter
Kyousuke-

_underjoy wrote:

Hello! Sorry for waiting so long, been busy.
4K mod inside
00:03:955 (3955|3) - it's a ghost note, doesn't correspond to layering after btw it isn't for me, the melody is more hearable than before, and it's similiar with the others which i layer
00:06:299 (6299|3) - this is a ghost note too. Can't hear the sound for it. seriously? there's a melody effect sound like lol (even there's exist on raika's diff too)
00:14:111 - you lack a note here. Compare with 00:04:033 - nah there's no audible melody on there, unlike the first mod and the timestamp that you pointed 00:04:033 - . Yes i get what you mean, but if i add the note on there, i must add the note on the others place bcs the sound is similiar with the others (unlike 00:14:189 (14189|1,14267|2) - this, it have a sound effect or an instrument sound that makes it different for me)
00:17:158 (17158|3,17158|0,17236|2,17314|1,17392|2,17471|0,17471|3) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4846863 plays much better because it removes the big anchor on 2. It's now a lot more clean. nice
00:24:111 - same as 00:14:111, add a note. same as before, but take into consideration lol
00:27:158 (27158|0,27158|3,27236|2,27314|1,27392|2,27471|0,27471|3,27549|1,27627|0,27705|1,27783|2,27783|3,27861|1,27861|0,27939|3,27978|2,28017|1,28056|0,28096|1,28096|2,28096|3) - I suggest to do the same pattern as in 00:17:158, but mirror it (ctrl+H the whole changed sequence). ok
00:51:846 (51846|0,51846|3) - delete the note at 1. It's just a piano sound, not accented. that's quite loud for me lol, but applied
01:22:158 (82158|0) - move to 3, to delete the 3-anchor on 1. The burst afterwards plays better this way. nicee
01:22:627 (82627|3,82705|2) - swap those two? reflects the pitch a bit better I think (and is a natural followup of the pattern on burst) hmm seems more better, applied
01:31:377 (91377|2) - this note should be on 1. The anchor on right hand combined with the jack after is too much for the right hand, it needs some balance. ok
01:34:033 (94033|3,94033|0,94033|2) - two notes suffice here. The sound is different. oh okay, since the other modders have pointed this before
02:01:533 (121533|1,121611|2,121689|1,121767|2,121846|1,121924|2,122002|1) - ouch it's not a good idea with the minijack. Try this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4846944 ouch okay, btw why u don't redl
03:03:096 (183096|0,183174|1,183252|2,183330|1,183408|0,183486|2) - I think you should use an 121212 trill here. The music clearly suggests it. okay nice suggestion :^) it seems that you're a trill fans lol
03:05:517 (185517|2,185674|1,185986|2,186142|2) - they seem like ghost notes, and even if they're not, they're barely audible. I'd not map them. Also, revise the chords that happen without those notes because they seem not structured with the notes deleted. yea you're rite. deleted
03:13:096 (193096|3,193174|1,193252|2,193330|1,193408|3,193486|2) - the same idea with the trill on the other hand instead. okkie
03:15:361 (195361|1,195517|1) - ghost notes IMO too 03:15:517 - only deleted this
03:16:533 (196533|0,196572|1,196611|2,196650|3,196689|0,196728|1,196767|2,196806|3) - this is 1/6, not 1/8! oops lol changed
03:24:502 (204502|2) - I'd go with the main line of piano and not map this (because there's no piano for that) okkie
03:26:221 (206221|0) - cosmetic change: move to 3, or change the chord to [14] to reflect the pitch. more prefer [14]
03:28:877 - you forgot a chord here, so I suggest this pattern: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4847050 . Also, I didn't check the snaps so I hope you're correct. hmm somehow i would to keep it, for playability. and about the snaps i've checked from the bms chart
03:34:658 (214658|0,214658|1,214658|3) - delete one. it should be 2-chord. okay, why i forgot to apply it on here too lol
03:58:564 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4847082 I think you should go with the similar pattern as in the first part. It also plays better than the one you used (it's not bad, but it's hard to nail and many people would fc the map to this point and miss here then rage.) yeah that's true, this was the most part i worried for lol. btw changed into your suggestion, maybe will change the pattern like the first if many people complaining
04:26:377 (266377|1,266767|1) - those notes are not needed. You didn't map the background sounds for that section, and the first note is such a background sound. The second note was probably meant to be a part of the windup but it starts 04:26:846 - here. ok
04:54:189 (294189|1,294267|2) - in my opinion it would be good as a minijack. Do what you want ;) hmm yeah its good, but i never use that on my pattern. so yeah keep

Nice map! Good luck!
PS I've noticed the copy-paste =.= it's hard you know to make the different pattern ;w; i was too lazy to think yeah since the song is repetive tho lmao
such a nice mods, thank you so much underjoy!
Topic Starter
Kyousuke-

PyaKura wrote:

Dropping in to say I have not forgotten about this map and will proceed with the mod as soon as I am done with Level_51's Double Helix.
LordRaika's 7K Onslaught updated, waiting for posting the log
PyaKura
completely forgot lol

irc
2016-04-09 14:10 PyaKura: imma start now then
2016-04-09 14:10 LordRaika: lets make it fast then >_<
2016-04-09 14:10 LordRaika: sry thou
2016-04-09 14:10 PyaKura: gonna grab something to drink
2016-04-09 14:11 LordRaika: sure ^^b
2016-04-09 14:11 PyaKura: also i probably wont finish in 30 mins but whatever
2016-04-09 14:11 LordRaika: its ok XD u can always tell me the main point
2016-04-09 14:11 LordRaika: i will think something on how to deal with it
2016-04-09 14:13 PyaKura: np map pls
2016-04-09 14:14 LordRaika: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/923665 Mastermind(xi+nora2r) - Dreadnought]
2016-04-09 14:18 PyaKura: lol ok
2016-04-09 14:19 PyaKura: i don't even$
2016-04-09 14:19 PyaKura: jdezoiduhcbpdsoc
2016-04-09 14:19 LordRaika: pls XD
2016-04-09 14:19 LordRaika: its ok
2016-04-09 14:19 PyaKura: not warmed up
2016-04-09 14:19 PyaKura: okay so
2016-04-09 14:19 LordRaika: do u think HP too high?
2016-04-09 14:19 PyaKura: no it's fine
2016-04-09 14:19 LordRaika: yeah, i know ^^b
2016-04-09 14:19 PyaKura: map is relatively easy as well
2016-04-09 14:19 PyaKura: my hands are just super stiff
2016-04-09 14:20 LordRaika: thats why i increase it, XD
2016-04-09 14:20 LordRaika: previously its 8.5 and 8.8
2016-04-09 14:21 LordRaika: let me know everything that plays not really well... i will get the point, and fix it later ^^/ (since im going off soon >_<)
2016-04-09 14:21 PyaKura: 00:53:721 (53721|0,53799|2,53877|4,53955|6) - strange releases
2016-04-09 14:21 PyaKura: on 1/8
2016-04-09 14:21 PyaKura: just pointing what looks a bit off to me
2016-04-09 14:22 PyaKura: will do a detailed mod later on with you
2016-04-09 14:22 PyaKura: i'm on holiday now so yeah
2016-04-09 14:22 PyaKura: 01:02:236 - missing hihat
2016-04-09 14:23 PyaKura: right, same strange releases here 01:12:158 -
2016-04-09 14:23 PyaKura: 01:21:846 - you've got 4 notes here to put emphasis on the loud sound
2016-04-09 14:24 PyaKura: 01:22:471 - 01:23:096 - 01:23:408 - but only 3 on those lines
2016-04-09 14:24 LordRaika: sure,.. ^^b , will add more 1/4 on hihat... and ehmm... will try to make the stream more easier XD
2016-04-09 14:25 LordRaika: thx, will make the cymbal more consistent ^^b
2016-04-09 14:25 PyaKura: 01:24:346 - this one could also use one more note I guess
2016-04-09 14:25 PyaKura: the following part is a bit unbalanced i think
2016-04-09 14:26 PyaKura: i mean it's fine to play but now that i look at it
2016-04-09 14:26 PyaKura: oh, nevermind
2016-04-09 14:26 LordRaika: k k :D
2016-04-09 14:26 PyaKura: 01:24:346 - you can make 2 notes chords on each white line
2016-04-09 14:27 PyaKura: for the kick
2016-04-09 14:27 LordRaika: sure
2016-04-09 14:27 LordRaika: :)
2016-04-09 14:28 PyaKura: as a general advice
2016-04-09 14:28 PyaKura: don't be afraid to make big chords on those loud sounds that stand out
2016-04-09 14:28 PyaKura: the song is pretty brutal in nature i feel
2016-04-09 14:28 LordRaika: yeah... xi .... full 1/4 is normal XD
2016-04-09 14:28 PyaKura: at least that's how i have felt it when i made my map
2016-04-09 14:28 LordRaika: wahaha
2016-04-09 14:29 LordRaika: ye :D got it
2016-04-09 14:29 LordRaika: i will check my cymbal and impact section ^^b
2016-04-09 14:29 PyaKura: 01:40:596 (100596|1) - this little one is pretty awkward lol
2016-04-09 14:30 PyaKura: i know what you wanted to do here but i don't think it deserves a note of its own
2016-04-09 14:30 PyaKura: would feel better if you could move down the start of the 3 following LNs
2016-04-09 14:30 LordRaika: 01:40:596 (100596|1,100752|1) - yea, but its just the same pitch, so ... what do we do about it
2016-04-09 14:31 PyaKura: i think i ignored the repetition in my map
2016-04-09 14:31 PyaKura: i mean you do what you feel is right, i'm only giving suggestions alright
2016-04-09 14:31 PyaKura: c:
2016-04-09 14:31 LordRaika: then i want to keep it ^^ hehe, since it doesnt hard at all....
2016-04-09 14:32 PyaKura: 01:42:392 (102392|5,102549|1) - those two are off sync
2016-04-09 14:32 PyaKura: if you want to underline the change in pitch uh
2016-04-09 14:32 LordRaika: 02:04:033 - what do u think of this pattern... do u want me to change this?
2016-04-09 14:32 PyaKura: this one is okay
2016-04-09 14:33 PyaKura: easy to read and hit
2016-04-09 14:33 LordRaika: i see
2016-04-09 14:33 PyaKura: okay so
2016-04-09 14:33 PyaKura: 01:42:549 (102549|1) - move this one fown to the white line
2016-04-09 14:34 PyaKura: it will play better and is on sync with the pitch going down
2016-04-09 14:34 PyaKura: fown -> down lol
2016-04-09 14:36 LordRaika: [http://puu.sh/obP5N.jpg this?] but im not sure if 01:42:471 - have a sound on it.... since what i hear is the sound that exist here 01:42:549 -
2016-04-09 14:36 PyaKura: there is no sound on 01:42:549 - (?)
2016-04-09 14:36 PyaKura: or so faint i can't hear it at all
2016-04-09 14:38 LordRaika: 4k add note from the white line too,... so i guess i will follow it ^^b
2016-04-09 14:38 LordRaika: it might be delayed sound XD
2016-04-09 14:38 LordRaika: thx ^^b
2016-04-09 14:38 PyaKura: 01:54:346 -
2016-04-09 14:38 PyaKura: in this part
2016-04-09 14:39 PyaKura: i suggested you use triplets from each red lines
2016-04-09 14:39 PyaKura: suggest*
2016-04-09 14:39 LordRaika: like?
2016-04-09 14:39 PyaKura: until 01:56:221 -
2016-04-09 14:39 PyaKura: well
2016-04-09 14:39 PyaKura: the song emphasizes triplets here
2016-04-09 14:40 PyaKura: drop the hihat and focus on the synth
2016-04-09 14:40 LordRaika: i got it
2016-04-09 14:40 LordRaika: like... 01:54:736 (114736|1,115049|2,115361|5) - removing this :D
2016-04-09 14:40 PyaKura: 01:56:221 - here the hihat is stronger and goes along the synth so you can keep doing 1/4 until the next big white line
2016-04-09 14:41 LordRaika: k ^^b i got the point
2016-04-09 14:41 LordRaika: next next
2016-04-09 14:41 PyaKura: 01:56:846 - so same suggestion as previous since the structure is the same
2016-04-09 14:41 LordRaika: yep
2016-04-09 14:42 PyaKura: 01:59:346 - there is a buildup starting from here so I guess you can leave the following like that
2016-04-09 14:42 PyaKura: also remember big chords to add impact :p
2016-04-09 14:43 LordRaika: sure ^^b
2016-04-09 14:43 PyaKura: 02:27:002 (147002|4,147080|5,147158|6,147314|4,147314|5,147471|6,147549|5,147627|4,147783|6,147783|5) - I am not sure what these are mapped to
2016-04-09 14:44 PyaKura: oh
2016-04-09 14:44 PyaKura: i got it
2016-04-09 14:45 LordRaika: yeah, but i jst thought... this 02:27:314 (147314|5,147783|5) - is the only hard things here?
2016-04-09 14:45 LordRaika: should i reduce the LN?
2016-04-09 14:45 LordRaika: 02:27:314 (147314|5,147783|5) - delete this... its good, but the impact is just lower... what do u think?
2016-04-09 14:45 LordRaika: *good because its ensure less chance to miss haha
2016-04-09 14:45 PyaKura: well if it were me i would turn these LN 02:27:314 (147314|4,147314|5,147783|6,147783|5) - into normal notes
2016-04-09 14:46 PyaKura: because you have the LNs on the left for the synth sounds
2016-04-09 14:46 PyaKura: so normal notes could represent drums or something
2016-04-09 14:46 LordRaika: 02:27:314 (147314|5,147783|5) - but keep this?
2016-04-09 14:46 PyaKura: yes
2016-04-09 14:46 PyaKura: i mean uh
2016-04-09 14:46 PyaKura: turn it into normal note?
2016-04-09 14:47 PyaKura: the main difficulty in this part
2016-04-09 14:47 PyaKura: is the little gaps you have between those notes 02:27:080 (147080|5,147314|5,147549|5) -
2016-04-09 14:47 PyaKura: if you use normal notes it "cut" the pattern into easier to read parts
2016-04-09 14:47 PyaKura: and also remove the small gap
2016-04-09 14:48 LordRaika: i have 2 choice... [http://puu.sh/obPCL.jpg is this full LN better?] or ... [http://puu.sh/obPEf.png this one]
2016-04-09 14:48 PyaKura: i prefer the second to keep the impact
2016-04-09 14:49 LordRaika: k thx ^^b
2016-04-09 14:49 PyaKura: i even did this
2016-04-09 14:49 PyaKura: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4895379
2016-04-09 14:49 PyaKura: on the left side
2016-04-09 14:49 PyaKura: 3 notes to emphasize the loud sound instead of 1
2016-04-09 14:49 LordRaika: haha that impact
2016-04-09 14:50 LordRaika: its actually perfect... its 4 and 4 , 3note 1 ln,
2016-04-09 14:50 LordRaika: for cymbal :D
2016-04-09 14:51 PyaKura: 02:35:361 (155361|5,155361|4) - this sound is a bit of a trap
2016-04-09 14:51 PyaKura: i'm no actually sure there even is a sound there
2016-04-09 14:52 LordRaika: oh
2016-04-09 14:52 PyaKura: i just hear the synth stopping
2016-04-09 14:52 LordRaika: no worry, i hear it loud and clear ^^b
2016-04-09 14:52 PyaKura: but additional sound
2016-04-09 14:52 PyaKura: ok if you say so
2016-04-09 14:52 LordRaika: 02:35:049 (155049|6,155049|5,155361|4,155361|5) - here, they both have the same pitch (actually)
2016-04-09 14:52 LordRaika: XD hehe
2016-04-09 14:53 PyaKura: i can hear the first one fine
2016-04-09 14:53 PyaKura: the second one however ?_?
2016-04-09 14:53 PyaKura: anyway
2016-04-09 14:54 PyaKura: 02:40:908 (160908|1,161221|1) - move these to 6
2016-04-09 14:54 PyaKura: (i use 1|2|3...6|7 btw)
2016-04-09 14:54 PyaKura: it's easier to hit that way since it makes a hidden stairs
2016-04-09 14:55 PyaKura: 3 1 2 is an awkward pattern
2016-04-09 14:55 PyaKura: oh and 02:41:533 (161533|1) - this one to 7 for the above reason
2016-04-09 14:55 LordRaika: haha hidden stair :D
2016-04-09 14:55 LordRaika: sure
2016-04-09 14:56 PyaKura: 02:42:314 (162314|3,162366|2,162366|6,162418|1,162418|5,162471|4,162471|3) - this 'should' be fine buut
2016-04-09 14:56 PyaKura: you can probably turn one of these stairs into 1/4
2016-04-09 14:56 PyaKura: since the 1/4 is far more hearable than the 1/6
2016-04-09 14:56 PyaKura: polyrhythm yeyeyeye
2016-04-09 14:57 PyaKura: uh i mean the drums are 1/4
2016-04-09 14:57 PyaKura: not "far more hearable" my bad
2016-04-09 14:57 LordRaika: yeah, like 03:28:877 (208877|3,208877|0,208929|4,208955|1,208981|5) - this right?
2016-04-09 14:58 PyaKura: yes yes
2016-04-09 14:58 LordRaika: i will look into it , ^^ i will test it again later, if its good, i will change it :D
2016-04-09 14:58 PyaKura: sure
2016-04-09 15:00 PyaKura: 03:01:064 (181064|4,181142|3,181221|2,181299|1,181377|0) - releases, make them align with the 1/4 notes
2016-04-09 15:01 LordRaika: i think i like this 3/8 better ... :D
2016-04-09 15:01 LordRaika: its longer than 1/4 short LN,
2016-04-09 15:01 LordRaika: so its suppose to be easier to get 300
2016-04-09 15:02 PyaKura: well the releases need to be snapped well
2016-04-09 15:02 PyaKura: unconsciously you have a better time reading press and releases when they are aligned
2016-04-09 15:02 LordRaika: hmm ok then
2016-04-09 15:03 LordRaika: since i use short LN for those section ^^
2016-04-09 15:03 LordRaika: i'll change it
2016-04-09 15:04 PyaKura: consider doing this for every similar instance of LN like this
2016-04-09 15:04 LordRaika: ^^b ofc
2016-04-09 15:04 PyaKura: it's your choice in the end
2016-04-09 15:04 LordRaika: btw ,... ah damn, times up XD i have to go ;w;
2016-04-09 15:04 LordRaika: huehueheuhe
Topic Starter
Kyousuke-
revived. sorry for long waiting lmao
all diffs are completely hitsounded!

hitsound diff

we're ready now~



/revived again..
where BNs
pporse
sry man ;_; i'm late orz plz blame me

column set
1 2 3 4 5 6 7

MOD
[LordRaika's 7K Onslaught]
00:30:478 (30478|1) - delete ?
there is no sound


00:41:533 - add a note on 1st column


00:51:533 (51533|1,51689|1) - delete ?
umm i think there is no sound.


01:02:080 - add a note

01:02:549 (62549|3) - delete
there is no sound


01:19:971 - add a note on 4th column
01:20:283 - add a note on 1st column
i think it is better to use 2-chords in there.


01:39:346 (99346|3,99346|5) - it's too short ;_;
shift end point to 01:40:596 -


01:51:455 (111455|4,111689|6) - umm i think it's not the exact location.
but i don't know the exact location of it. ;_;


01:55:674 - add a note. there is sound
01:57:861 - ^
01:58:174 - ^
but if it's your intention, ignore my opinion :3


01:58:721 - add a note
it is better to use 2-chords in there.


02:15:674 (135674|1,135986|0) - delete. there is no sound
02:18:486 (138486|2) - ^

02:14:736 - add a note
02:20:830 - ^


02:35:361 (155361|5,155361|6) - delete. there is no sound
02:37:861 (157861|3,157861|4) - ^


02:43:408 (163408|6) - change to normal note. i don't think that LN is necessary in there.
and 02:43:486 - add a note on 5th column. there is piano sound.


02:47:627 - 02:47:783 -
well 02:47:627 - is louder than 02:47:783 -
but there is only one note at 02:47:627 - and there is 3-chord at 02:47:783 -
i think 02:47:627 - should be used more notes than 02:47:783 -

but if you want to keep this pattern, you can ignore it :3


03:42:392 (222392|1) - delete. there is no sound
03:43:174 (223174|2,223486|3) - ^
03:44:736 (224736|5,224892|1) - ^
03:45:205 (225205|5,225517|1,225674|4,225986|3,226299|4) - ^
03:47:392 (227392|1,228174|2,228486|3) - ^


03:51:455 - add a note on 2nd column
03:51:611 - add a note on 3rd column
there is kick sound.


03:52:392 (232392|5,233174|4,233486|3,233799|2) - delete. there is no sound


04:03:017 (243017|3) - delete. there is no sound
04:04:111 (244111|1) - ^


04:10:986 - add a note. there is piano sound


04:57:939 - add a note ? like 04:59:189 (299189|3) -


04:59:424 - 04:59:580 - 05:00:049 - 05:00:205 - add notes
there is snare sound.

nice song + nice pattern = nice map

good luck :3
Nivrad00
BN check
General
(Both diffs) The second kiai starts two measures before the chorus, 02:41:846 -, while the fourth kiai starts exactly at the chorus, 04:11:533 -. Why not make the kiais consistent?

If you could explain the meaning of the tags c89 comiket comic market Yusuke Ishiwata, that would be great
Difficulties
4K Battlespace
01:00:127 (60127|1,60179|2,60231|0) - my earphones are terrible, so can you confirm for me that these notes aren't ghosts?
01:51:221 (111221|3,111429|2,111637|0) - I believe this should be 1/4, but in any case it's inconsistent with Raika's diff so one of you needs to change it
02:01:767 (121767|3,121846|3) - There's only one 1/4 jack in this buildup section and it looks a little out-of-place. if you're going to use jacks here, it would make sense to place them on more prominent beats like 02:03:096 - or 02:04:346 -

LordRaika's 7K Onslaught
01:28:721 (88721|5) - did you mean for the LN to end here? the synth moves to a different pitch at this time
04:57:002 - missing note for the snare?
Hey the bitrate is the same as the bpm, 192
that means there are 60 kilobytes per beat
fun fact lel

Two clean and creative maps from skilled mappers. This was a very easy BN check :) I'll be glad to bubble once you respond to pporse's mod and my suggestions.
LordRaika

pporse wrote:

[LordRaika's 7K Onslaught]
00:30:478 (30478|1) - delete ?
there is no sound
sure, nice catch ^^


00:41:533 - add a note on 1st column
the sounds is so vague, and its best to leave the pattern like that ^^


00:51:533 (51533|1,51689|1) - delete ?
umm i think there is no sound.
deleted one of it, since its definitely a sound on it


01:02:080 - add a note
yeah there is a sound, but no thanks, im making a mirror 1/4 with a break, same with
01:01:533 (61533|2,61611|1,61689|3,61767|2,62158|4,62236|5,62314|3,62392|4) -




01:02:549 (62549|3) - delete
there is no sound
ok



01:19:971 - add a note on 4th column
01:20:283 - add a note on 1st column
i think it is better to use 2-chords in there.
for the beat right?hmm sure...


01:39:346 (99346|3,99346|5) - it's too short ;_;
shift end point to 01:40:596 -
no, the next mini jack is a bit uncomfortable for the inverse,
and the break seems really good since its fading out a bit >w<



01:51:455 (111455|4,111689|6) - umm i think it's not the exact location.
but i don't know the exact location of it. ;_;
it looks really fine to me...


01:55:674 - add a note. there is sound
01:57:861 - ^
01:58:174 - ^
but if it's your intention, ignore my opinion :3
haha yeah, to make the build up pitch and pattern feels, ^^b


01:58:721 - add a note
it is better to use 2-chords in there.
sure


02:15:674 (135674|1,135986|0) - delete. there is no sound
02:18:486 (138486|2) - ^
02:35:361 (155361|5,155361|6) - delete. there is no sound
02:37:861 (157861|3,157861|4) - ^
pls XD i definitely heard the sound >w<


02:14:736 - add a note
02:20:830 - ^
sure



02:43:408 (163408|6) - change to normal note. i don't think that LN is necessary in there.
and 02:43:486 - add a note on 5th column. there is piano sound.
02:43:096 (163096|6,163408|6) - this two is perfectly same sound and its just catchy,
so i would like to emphasize both, with LN, there is break between, to make them same "increasing pitch" pattern
02:42:939 (162939|3,162991|4,162991|0,163043|1,163043|5) - and
02:43:252 (163252|4,163252|1,163330|2,163330|5) -
both increasing pitch pattern ^^




02:47:627 - 02:47:783 -
well 02:47:627 - is louder than 02:47:783 -
but there is only one note at 02:47:627 - and there is 3-chord at 02:47:783 -
i think 02:47:627 - should be used more notes than 02:47:783 -

but if you want to keep this pattern, you can ignore it :3
its ok >w< im about to change this pattern into a better one...
and i will add some note to the impact >w<





03:42:392 (222392|1) - delete. there is no sound
03:43:174 (223174|2,223486|3) - ^
03:44:736 (224736|5,224892|1) - ^
03:45:205 (225205|5,225517|1,225674|4,225986|3,226299|4) - ^
03:47:392 (227392|1,228174|2,228486|3) - ^

i remove some, but i still keep some, since im sure it does have the sound
(oh btw Pyakura's version also has full 1/4




03:51:455 - add a note on 2nd column
03:51:611 - add a note on 3rd column
there is kick sound.
allrite~



04:03:017 (243017|3) - delete. there is no sound
04:04:111 (244111|1) - ^
04:10:986 - add a note. there is piano sound
sure~


04:57:939 - add a note ? like 04:59:189 (299189|3) -
hmm, no, its kind'a intentional XD


04:59:424 - 04:59:580 - 05:00:049 - 05:00:205 - add notes
there is snare sound.
okayyy



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nice song + nice pattern = nice map

good luck :3
thx, i also update and polish some pattern as well >w<, im pretty much sure its final now
============================
appudetto : http://puu.sh/pZjLR.zip
oh gawd, after i post and refresh the page, i have to reply something XD


Nivrad00 wrote:

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The second kiai starts two measures before the chorus, 02:41:846 -, while the fourth kiai starts exactly at the chorus, 04:11:533 -. Why not make the kiais consistent?
geez, how could i.... XD
this is a very rare case that i must be mistaken it at the start of kiai when making the SV effect and kiai start point...
anyway its should be fixed now >w<

======================================


i will leave the 4K for Kyou~


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LordRaika's 7K Onslaught
01:28:721 (88721|5) - did you mean for the LN to end here? the synth moves to a different pitch at this time
i do..
but hey, i got a better idea, just fixed it by flip it horizontal, now both trill has 2 meaning 2 purpose at once.
(there is 1/8 on the trill but i dont want to map it, might be annoying 1note between the trill)


04:57:002 - missing note for the snare?
hmm, there is... note on it right?
======================================

Hey the bitrate is the same as the bpm, 192
that means there are 60 kilobytes per beat
fun fact lel

^^b nice catch


Two clean and creative maps from skilled mappers. This was a very easy BN check :) I'll be glad to bubble once you respond to pporse's mod and my suggestions.
Sankyuuu~ XD

appudetto : http://puu.sh/pZktP.zip
Topic Starter
Kyousuke-

Nivrad00 wrote:

BN check
General
(Both diffs) The second kiai starts two measures before the chorus, 02:41:846 -, while the fourth kiai starts exactly at the chorus, 04:11:533 -. Why not make the kiais consistent? oh lol there was a little mistake bcs of the SV xd

If you could explain the meaning of the tags c89 comiket comic market Yusuke Ishiwata, that would be great
World Fragments album is listed on c89, as you can see here
http://worldfragments.diverse.jp/#!/info ; http://worldfragments.diverse.jp/sp/index.html

and Yusuke Ishiwata is the real name of xi https://remywiki.com/Yusuke_Ishiwata
Difficulties
4K Battlespace
01:00:127 (60127|1,60179|2,60231|0) - my earphones are terrible, so can you confirm for me that these notes aren't ghosts? already confirmed on BMS chart and pya's map xd
01:51:221 (111221|3,111429|2,111637|0) - I believe this should be 1/4, but in any case it's inconsistent with Raika's diff so one of you needs to change it whoops my fault, confirmed on pya's map tho
02:01:767 (121767|3,121846|3) - There's only one 1/4 jack in this buildup section and it looks a little out-of-place. if you're going to use jacks here, it would make sense to place them on more prominent beats like 02:03:096 - or 02:04:346 - o nice catch, removed on the others place tho
Hey the bitrate is the same as the bpm, 192
that means there are 60 kilobytes per beat
fun fact lel lel i just realize about that

Two clean and creative maps from skilled mappers. This was a very easy BN check :) I'll be glad to bubble once you respond to pporse's mod and my suggestions. hue i'm not a skilled mappers ;-; raika is =w=
thank you very much nivrad!!


ALL UPDATED!



btw there was an unsnapped SV, so waiting for raika to fix it first oki ready
[ A v a l o n ]
as requested by Kyousuke long ago . . . .
so BUB #2 IS MINE =w=)
Nivrad00
@LordRaika
04:57:002 - missing note for the snare?
hmm, there is... note on it right?
Actually, I was suggesting you add a note (make it a double) because the other snares nearby have doubles, but it's not a big deal. Don't worry about it

Everything looks good. Bubbled
Topic Starter
Kyousuke-
Yayy thanks nivrad!! :^)


[ A v a l o n ] wrote:

as requested by Kyousuke long ago . . . .
so BUB #2 IS MINE =w=)
lel tumben lu peka =w= awkwkwk
[ A v a l o n ]

Bubble Check



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  • [General]
  1. Song Setup & Metadata
    Song setup is fine and also metadata is fine too http://manbow.nothing.sh/event/event.cg ... &event=104
    maybe you can add "BOFU2015 of Fighter 2015" to tags . . . or you can add BMS to source, since the song song itself is still originally released from that but now this is full ver . . . same case like this map https://osu.ppy.sh/s/347650
  2. Audio & Hitsounds
    192kbps audio is good . . . and not contains any delayed hitsound (+5ms) and all of hitsound is above 100ms
  3. BPM & Timing
    all fine . . .
  4. Background
    1366x768 background (16:9) screen, fine

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    Since i already modded this long ago and the pattern itself has well-made, so i wiill only point out some issues here
    [4K Battlespace]
  5. 01:12:627 (72627|3,72679|2,72731|1) - this . . . is clearly 1/4 sound, that's really bad choice you decide to follow those "unclear" and almost "unaudible" fuzzy sound when the piano itself is 100% more clear to map (take a look to raika's diff too for avoid conflict snapping)
    and also this is same issue too 03:20:439 - and 02:46:741 -
  6. 01:29:241 (89241|1,89293|2) - this really clear 1/4 sound i believe . . . there is no possibility 1/6 sound here, i listen it again and again many times, it\s still 1/4 snap clearly . . . pls re-snap it http://puu.sh/q7UME/a3ccfc0da0.jpg
  7. 01:53:096 - this is 1/6 sound, because there is not contains any other sound . . . and yea 1/4 piano basically start on this 01:53:330 - so there is no possibility for other sound http://puu.sh/q7WkT/366c80c8a3.jpg
  8. 02:03:564 - i swear to god this is really and clearly fcuk you 1/4 snap like on raika's diff
  9. 02:46:741 (166741|1,166793|2) - 1/8 this time (check my old mod) . . . should i tell you again this time ? this is clearly wrong snapped, idk if you doing that 1/6 for comfortable but that's really wrong way to do with that sound (even raika skip this part to 1/2), you make xi and nora2r sad lol
  10. 02:53:877 - http://puu.sh/q7VuZ/10a08c8316.jpg and also 04:21:377 - http://puu.sh/q7VNO/8ffc5f3f14.jpg you guys can disscuss this again i don't really get which is the better snap for this part
  11. Are you want the same disqualification case like your kunoichi's map happens again ?

    [7K Onslaught]
  12. 01:12:158 - hmm ending those LN on 1/8 was not really recommended i think, suggest to end that into 1/4 snap for more better to read owo http://puu.sh/q7V7J/13312ca381.jpg
  13. 01:22:314 - this part exactly have 4 sound (1/6 snap) yea even piano and those fuzzy sound is have 1/6 snap too http://puu.sh/q7W7x/b1840f5dbc.jpg
  14. 01:28:408 (88408|3,88616|3) - re-arrange those LN into different column ? i feel they are have different sound this time
  15. 02:04:267 (124267|3) - why not end this LN on this timing ? 02:04:346 - because the sound is physically stopped on that for sure
  16. 02:14:033 (134033|0,134111|2,134189|4,134267|6) - i feel those sound was really short this time . . . so maybe that should be like this http://puu.sh/q7WDV/55363bb4a1.jpg yea, same reason as above, that sound physically end on this 02:14:346 -
just my question for this timing 00:31:533 - this SV was questionable . . . that's not really give an effect when it plays at 100% speed (normally) it just feels like this part has no SV (useless)

Ok just that . . . call me back when done =w=)
Arzenvald
7K diff = PP incoming bois

aaaaaaaa nangos keburu ex bn q-q
Topic Starter
Kyousuke-

[ A v a l o n ] wrote:

Bubble Check



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  • [General]
  1. Song Setup & Metadata
    Song setup is fine and also metadata is fine too http://manbow.nothing.sh/event/event.cg ... &event=104
    maybe you can add "BOFU2015 of Fighter 2015" to tags . . . or you can add BMS to source, since the song song itself is still originally released from that but now this is full ver . . . same case like this map https://osu.ppy.sh/s/347650 okay added to the tags instead
  2. Audio & Hitsounds
    192kbps audio is good . . . and not contains any delayed hitsound (+5ms) and all of hitsound is above 100ms
  3. BPM & Timing
    all fine . . .
  4. Background
    1366x768 background (16:9) screen, fine

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    Since i already modded this long ago and the pattern itself has well-made, so i wiill only point out some issues here
    [4K Battlespace]
  5. 01:12:627 (72627|3,72679|2,72731|1) - this . . . is clearly 1/4 sound, that's really bad choice you decide to follow those "unclear" and almost "unaudible" fuzzy sound when the piano itself is 100% more clear to map (take a look to raika's diff too for avoid conflict snapping) okay you're right
    and also this is same issue too 03:20:439 - and 02:46:741 - uh okay blame bms chart
  6. 01:29:241 (89241|1,89293|2) - this really clear 1/4 sound i believe . . . there is no possibility 1/6 sound here, i listen it again and again many times, it\s still 1/4 snap clearly . . . pls re-snap it http://puu.sh/q7UME/a3ccfc0da0.jpg rip okayy, *blame bms chart
  7. 01:53:096 - this is 1/6 sound, because there is not contains any other sound . . . and yea 1/4 piano basically start on this 01:53:330 - so there is no possibility for other sound http://puu.sh/q7WkT/366c80c8a3.jpg oh ya nice catch~
  8. 02:03:564 - i swear to god this is really and clearly fcuk you 1/4 snap like on raika's diff uh oh why every this kind of sound is mapped at both 1/4 and 1/6 in BMS chart lmao, btw changed :^)
  9. 02:46:741 (166741|1,166793|2) - 1/8 this time (check my old mod) . . . should i tell you again this time ? this is clearly wrong snapped, idk if you doing that 1/6 for comfortable but that's really wrong way to do with that sound (even raika skip this part to 1/2), you make xi and nora2r sad lol b-but the they make for BMS and it charted like that hue x( *btw changed to 1/4
  10. 02:53:877 - http://puu.sh/q7VuZ/10a08c8316.jpg and also 04:21:377 - http://puu.sh/q7VNO/8ffc5f3f14.jpg you guys can disscuss this again i don't really get which is the better snap for this part changed all to 1/6 like in BMS chart and raika's diff
  11. Are you want the same disqualification case like your kunoichi's map happens again ? lel kapok dah gw ngikutin snap ribet ;w; tapi map gw yg ngebikin snap lagu" jepang bsa di simplify lmao *ga penting lel
just my question for this timing 00:31:533 - this SV was questionable . . . that's not really give an effect when it plays at 100% speed (normally) it just feels like this part has no SV (useless) will waiting for raika, since he's who made the SV

Ok just that . . . call me back when done =w=)
thanks a lot avalon, all applied!


btw i removed some SV that didn't match with the 4K
00:52:314 - ~ 00:53:096 - (no notes in 4K)
03:19:033 - ~ 03:21:221 - (hard to read at full 1/4 jumpstream in the 4K)



waiting for raika...
Kawawa
owo
LordRaika

[ A v a l o n ] wrote:

[7K Onslaught]
  1. 01:12:158 - hmm ending those LN on 1/8 was not really recommended i think, suggest to end that into 1/4 snap for more better to read owo http://puu.sh/q7V7J/13312ca381.jpg

    thanks for the concern ^^
    but... no, i already make sure this is easier, its just simply like normal stair pattern with jst a tiny bit delay on release for each stair.
    next, making them 1/2 length, make them harder because it literally meaning "holds' longer time than 3/8 LN length...
    and shorter gap between this, its jst a bit tight there >>


  2. 01:22:314 - this part exactly have 4 sound (1/6 snap) yea even piano and those fuzzy sound is have 1/6 snap too http://puu.sh/q7W7x/b1840f5dbc.jpg

    added ^^b
  3. 01:28:408 (88408|3,88616|3) - re-arrange those LN into different column ? i feel they are have different sound this time
    err, nope, i never place jack or minijack without reason... in fact they are both same pitch(unison)
    01:28:408 (88408|3,88512|6,88616|3,88721|5) - these are : A#6, C7, A#6 and G#6


  4. 02:04:267 (124267|3) - why not end this LN on this timing ? 02:04:346 - because the sound is physically stopped on that for sure

    before... it was a pattern like this :


    but i play tons of pattern like this AND get 200 most of the time at the SHORTEst one at the final.
    i grew tired and dislike this pattern, then i use the current pattern, WHY? its simply easier because u just do a normal stair XD
    sometimes... try the pattern itself is the fastest way to tell which one is better... ^^



  5. 02:14:033 (134033|0,134111|2,134189|4,134267|6) - i feel those sound was really short this time . . . so maybe that should be like this http://puu.sh/q7WDV/55363bb4a1.jpg yea, same reason as above, that sound physically end on this 02:14:346 -

    hmm same reason, but ok, on the 2nd thought, i rarely use the same pattern type twice, so i change it into normal note,
    since the current section, the LN fades into normal note.

just my question for this timing 00:31:533 - this SV was questionable . . . that's not really give an effect when it plays at 100% speed (normally) it just feels like this part has no SV (useless)

Questionable is a bit wrong... since it does give effects... and ITS just well calculate for the scroll to be sight readable...
but!! it does looks really minor, not much gimmicks... (well, that was the very first intention so that it doesnt interrupt performance)

hmm... then i will increase their SV gap effect by "62", looks a bit stronger now...
i did the same for all similar gimmicks and bump :D like here as well :
01:13:096 -
Thanks for the check >w<b

http://puu.sh/qeTRD.zip updated... (changed timing a bit)
Topic Starter
Kyousuke-
ALL UPDATED!
[ A v a l o n ]
Bubbled #2 owo)b
dear next BN
please take a look on this part again in both diff 01:31:533 - i assumed it's following different sound so i think it's fine
but if you have any concern for that, you can point out that again
Topic Starter
Kyousuke-
woaa hypee xDD
thank you very much nal~~ owo
Frim4503
kok kayaknya gampang banget dpt bubble T_T
gw dah berkali kali request ke banyak bn tpi hasilnya nihil :'(
Topic Starter
Kyousuke-

Frim4503 wrote:

kok kayaknya gampang banget dpt bubble T_T
gw dah berkali kali request ke banyak bn tpi hasilnya nihil :'(
hey that's not that easy dude, i've waited for 3 months awaiting new BNs.
btw gw jga sama kok, cmn bbrp BN yg lgi open yg bner" ngeaccept. So goodluck
Kawawa
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4K Battlespace (5th, August)
14:32 *Kawawa is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/871129 Mastermind(xi+nora2r) - Dreadnought [4K Battlespace]]
14:32 Kawawa: 00:20:908 - 00:21:221 - 00:21:377 - I think It can be emphasized as crash sound.
14:33 Kawawa: yeah so you added on this section?
14:33 Kawawa: I got dc for 1min
14:33 Kawawa: \w\
14:34 Kyousuke-: 00:21:221 - 00:21:377 - 2 notes, 00:20:908 - 3 notes
14:34 Kawawa: yeah, alright then,
14:34 Kawawa: next.
14:34 Kyousuke-: 00:11:221 - 00:11:377 - since this is louder lol
14:34 Kawawa: 00:28:096 (28096|2) - And If you don't mind, you can remove this note. It will be better for smooth structure.
14:35 Kawawa: 00:30:908 - 00:31:221 - Add a note. same mod with above. It is same crash section (before 20sec part.)
14:35 Kawawa: should be consitency to each other.
14:35 Kyousuke-: 00:28:096 (28096|2) - sure
14:36 Kyousuke-: okkie about the same mod before
14:37 Kawawa: 00:32:471 - ~ 00:39:346 - this drum roll part are not good to me.
14:37 Kawawa: oh nvm.
14:37 Kawawa: I misunderstand the part.
14:38 Kawawa: here is nvm.
14:38 Kyousuke-: oh lel so it's fine? .w.
14:38 Kawawa: yeah,
14:38 Kawawa: 00:47:471 - remove a note at here, It can't feel much than 00:48:721 - 00:49:346 -
14:39 Kyousuke-: okay
14:40 Kawawa: 01:00:127 (60127|1,60179|2,60231|0,60283|3,60283|1,60361|2,60439|1,60517|0,60596|3,60596|1,60596|2) - I think It will be issue as vauge expression.
14:40 Kawawa: 01:00:179 (60179|2,60231|0) - It expressed as beep sounds. but can't feel much about this. If you can consider on 100% playback.
14:41 Kawawa: And I also could feel weird on this section as well. 01:00:283 - ~ 01:00:596 -
14:41 Kawawa: 01:00:439 - ~ 01:00:596 - because It is 6snap beep sounds.
14:41 Kawawa: If I can give you a feedback, Sample :: http://puu.sh/qqNY7/7d6c4b84eb.jpg
14:42 Kawawa: what do you think about?
14:43 Kyousuke-: oh ya i will consider it
14:43 Kawawa: should be improved at least.
14:43 Kawawa: consider it.
14:44 Kyousuke-: 01:00:127 (60127|1,60179|2,60231|0,60283|1) - but this sound is more prominent, than 01:00:439 - ~ 01:00:596 - this imo
14:44 Kawawa: yeah, It depends on each feeling.
14:44 Kawawa: so It is really up to you. but I don't recommend this. personally
14:45 Kawawa: but you can choose yours anything.
14:45 Kyousuke-: in bms chart they follow both lol with 1/6
14:46 Kawawa: anything fine.
14:50 Kyousuke-: wait http://puu.sh/qrxib/f949337e7f.jpg changed like this
14:50 Kawawa: okay
14:50 Kawawa: looks good than before
14:50 Kawawa: okay then. next section.
14:50 Kawawa: 01:07:471 - Add a note. same crash section with 01:06:846 - 01:08:096 -
14:50 Kawawa: You can consider it once again. It will be better for impact.
14:52 Kyousuke-: uh keep some for the playability
14:52 Kawawa: alright then
14:52 Kyousuke-: the 3 notes are only in the double white tick
14:52 Kawawa: 01:53:096 (113096|1,113148|2,113200|3) - It is 6snap? right?
14:52 Kawawa: confirmed in bms chart?
14:53 Kyousuke-: yeah if i add them i must re-arrange the whole stream xd and quite worse for it .w.
14:53 Kyousuke-: w8 lemme see the chart lol
14:53 Kawawa: I'm not sure about this yet.
14:53 Kawawa: need some information
14:55 Kyousuke-: uh that sound is not followed in bms lel
14:55 Kyousuke-: but avalon has approved it
14:55 Kyousuke-: (also in raika diff)
14:55 Kawawa: raika did this snap first?
14:55 Kawawa: than you?
14:55 Kawawa: I trust his snapping.
14:55 Kyousuke-: yes raika first xd
14:56 Kawawa: okay
14:56 Kawawa: let me skip then
14:56 Kawawa: 01:53:721 - ~ 01:54:346 - I think can be improved at least in this part.
14:56 Kawawa: 01:53:721 (113721|0,113773|1,113825|2,113877|3,113929|0,113981|1,114085|0,114137|1) -
14:56 Kawawa: It is kinda weird
14:57 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/qrxBQ/87df49dd87.jpg
14:57 Kawawa: what do you think about?
14:58 Kyousuke-: ok nice
14:58 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/qrxEa/2fdbd89dd0.jpg because It is really not good for piano structure
14:58 Kawawa: the piano structure changed from this section 01:54:033 -
14:58 Kawawa: and players can feel it surely.
14:59 Kyousuke-: yes i understand it, and i just realized it lol
14:59 Kawawa: 02:04:346 - ~ 02:11:846 - I'm so sorry, It's weird a lots. to me.
15:00 Kawawa: because of this 02:07:783 (127783|0,127861|1,127939|3,128017|2,128096|0,128174|3,128252|1,128330|2,128408|0,128486|3,128564|1,128642|2,128721|0,128799|3,128877|1,128955|2,129033|0,129111|3,129189|1,129267|2,129346|0,129424|3,129502|1,129580|2,129658|0,129736|3,129814|1,129892|2,129971|0,130049|3,130127|1,130205|2,130283|0,130361|3,130439|1,130517|2) -
15:00 Kawawa: 02:04:346 (124346|3,124424|2,124502|1,124580|0,124658|3,124736|2,124814|1,124892|0,124971|3,125049|2,125127|1,125205|0,125283|3,125361|2,125439|1,125517|0,125596|3,125674|2,125752|1,125830|0,125908|3,125986|2,126064|1,126142|0,126221|3,126299|2,126377|1,126455|0,126533|3,126611|1,126689|2,126767|3,126846|0,126924|1,127002|2,127080|3,127158|0,127236|1,127314|2,127392|3,127471|0,127549|1,127627|2,127705|3) -
15:00 Kawawa: from this part, I could feel high up for drum roll.
15:00 Kawawa: 02:07:783 (127783|0,127861|1,127939|3,128017|2,128096|0,128174|3,128252|1,128330|2,128408|0,128486|3,128564|1,128642|2,128721|0,128799|3,128877|1,128955|2,129033|0,129111|3,129189|1,129267|2,129346|0,129424|3,129502|1,129580|2,129658|0,129736|3,129814|1,129892|2,129971|0,130049|3,130127|1,130205|2,130283|0,130361|3,130439|1,130517|2,130596|0) -
15:00 Kawawa: but from this part, I felt weird, suddenly something vauge.
15:01 Kawawa: It's not unrankable, but can be improved in case.
15:01 Kawawa: what do you think about?
15:01 Kyousuke-: change like the first?
15:01 Kawawa: umm
15:01 Kyousuke-: yea i make it differently with the first part
15:01 Kawawa: can you follow my column first, I will give you a feed back first.
15:02 Kawawa: 02:06:533 (126533|3) - move to 3, 02:06:689 (126689|2,126767|3) - change the column
15:02 Kawawa: 02:07:939 (127939|3,128017|2) - change the column
15:02 Kyousuke-: moved
15:02 Kawawa: 02:08:096 (128096|0,128174|3,128252|1,128330|2,128408|0,128486|3,128564|1,128642|2,128721|0,128799|3,128877|1,128955|2,129033|0,129111|3,129189|1,129267|2,129346|0,129424|3,129502|1,129580|2,129658|0,129736|3,129814|1,129892|2,129971|0,130049|3,130127|1,130205|2,130283|0,130361|3,130439|1,130517|2) - and
15:02 Kawawa: and in this part
15:02 Kawawa: you can make the trill. than this.
15:02 Kawawa: It will be highlight than before.
15:03 Kawawa: ofc, It's a suggetion.
15:04 Kyousuke-: can you suggest the trill lol
15:04 Kyousuke-: but i never make the trill pattern before ._.
15:04 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/qrxTi/cf2829ca22.jpg
15:04 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/qrxSy/494559450b.jpg
15:04 Kawawa: two option.
15:05 Kawawa: but I recommend you 1st pic
15:05 Kawawa: personally.
15:05 Kawawa: up to you.
15:06 Kawawa: 2 also good.
15:06 Kawawa: oh 2 is more better
15:06 Kawawa: xD
15:06 Kyousuke-: choose the option two
15:06 Kawawa: yeah
15:07 Kyousuke-: but maybe will rearrange a bit lol
15:07 Kawawa: And last is
15:07 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/qrxZU/cac2b41712.jpg
15:08 Kawawa: because It changed 6snap to 8snap suddenly, so If you can make the seperate as pattern, It will be better.
15:09 Kawawa: because 1234 1234 1234 1234 1234 1234 1234 only is
15:09 Kawawa: can't feel the impact for 8snap.
15:10 Kyousuke-: 00:38:096 - same like this?
15:10 Kawawa: so I think it needs to be seperate the pattern to each 6,8snap.
15:10 Kawawa: there is okay.
15:12 Kyousuke-: oh okay so only changed in second section
15:15 Kawawa: 02:56:846 (176846|1,176846|0,177002|3,177002|2,177158|0,177158|1) - remoe a note?
15:15 Kawawa: remove a note on each section?
15:15 Kawawa: what about think?
15:16 Kyousuke-: oh yeah will delete it
15:16 Kawawa: yeah, was heavy feeling than music.
15:16 Kawawa: 02:57:314 - here is okay.
15:21 Kawawa: 04:38:096 (278096|1) - remove this? first part also removed.
15:22 Kawawa: 04:40:908 - 04:41:221 - 04:41:377 - then add a note at here as well.
15:22 Kawawa: 04:50:908 - 04:51:221 - same reason with above.
15:23 Kyousuke-: oh okay
15:24 Kawawa: 04:51:846 - ~ 04:58:721 - in this part.
15:24 Kawawa: I can't understand, why you used 1chord on snare section.
15:25 Kawawa: suddenly, became too weak from before part.
15:25 Kawawa: 04:52:158 - 04:52:471 - 04:52:783 - 04:53:096 - 04:53:408 - because you skipped these snare sound.
15:25 Kyousuke-: 00:01:846 - like the opening?
15:26 Kawawa: oh.
15:26 Kawawa: make sense.
15:26 Kawawa: but nevertheless,
15:26 Kawawa: have to consider It is last part.
15:27 Kawawa: I will point it out to raika's diff as well.
15:27 Kawawa: something too empty suddenly.
15:27 Kawawa: than music feeling.
15:28 Kawawa: 04:56:846 - ~ 04:58:721 - look, like in this part.
15:28 Kawawa: became high up more.
15:28 Kawawa: it is not same with start opening.
15:29 Kyousuke-: isn't the difference is just with the 3 noters?
15:29 Kawawa: start opning = did not be high up. just keep that mood. but final part is different.
15:30 Kawawa: hmm
15:30 Kawawa: If you want to keep, It's okay then.
15:30 Kawawa: there is a intention at least.
15:30 Kawawa: so can keep.
15:30 Kyousuke-: hue sorry but i finding it's fine for me
15:31 Kawawa: 4K is that's all.
LordRaika's 7K Onslaught (8th, August)
2016-08-08 02:09 Kawawa: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/923665 Mastermind(xi+nora2r) - Dreadnought [LordRaika's 7K Onslaught]]
2016-08-08 02:09 LordRaika: k, im here
2016-08-08 02:11 Kawawa: 00:20:517 - what do you think about add at 3?
2016-08-08 02:11 Kawawa: up to you.
2016-08-08 02:12 LordRaika: oh sure
2016-08-08 02:12 Kawawa: 00:27:783 - ~ 00:28:096 -
2016-08-08 02:13 Kawawa: just a feedback
2016-08-08 02:13 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/qt0sJ/90fa910004.jpg
2016-08-08 02:13 LordRaika: and this.... 01:12:158 - 3/8 Length of LN, is easier than 1/2 Length, (less holding time) , 02:27:002 - im updating this to be 3/8 length as well
2016-08-08 02:13 Kawawa: can you show me?
2016-08-08 02:13 Kawawa: If you changed them
2016-08-08 02:14 Kawawa: 00:27:939 - you can put 2note at here. like these section 00:26:689 -
2016-08-08 02:14 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/qt0sJ/90fa910004.jpg
2016-08-08 02:14 LordRaika: http://puu.sh/qt0wA.jpg here... it gives more gap between 02:27:236 - and 02:27:314 (147314|5) -
2016-08-08 02:14 LordRaika: 00:27:783 - changed , thanks :D
2016-08-08 02:15 LordRaika: changed but i didnt want to add note here 00:27:939 - seems to be full
2016-08-08 02:15 Kawawa: oh, okay
2016-08-08 02:16 Kawawa: 00:30:361 (30361|6,30361|2) - you want to keep this 2 note?
2016-08-08 02:16 Kawawa: for your pattern shape?
2016-08-08 02:16 LordRaika: yeah, 00:30:283 - this section, every 1/4 has 2 note
2016-08-08 02:16 LordRaika: 00:30:283 - ehmm should i add 1 here?
2016-08-08 02:17 Kawawa: depend on you.
2016-08-08 02:18 Kawawa: If have to add a note at 00:30:283 - , http://puu.sh/qt0Gl/be23d2aec4.jpg
2016-08-08 02:18 Kawawa: feedback
2016-08-08 02:18 LordRaika: if i add 1 on col 4, what do u think?
2016-08-08 02:18 Kawawa: if you add 1 on col 4, then It will be tricky pattern
2016-08-08 02:18 Kawawa: oh.
2016-08-08 02:18 Kawawa: nvm
2016-08-08 02:19 Kawawa: okay raika
2016-08-08 02:19 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/qt0KK/24ecce2f9d.jpg
2016-08-08 02:19 Kawawa: I recommend this
2016-08-08 02:19 Kawawa: looks good and balance as well^
2016-08-08 02:20 LordRaika: haha, yeah, dat stair is easier even for those quick chord :D
2016-08-08 02:20 LordRaika: allrite
2016-08-08 02:20 Kawawa: yeah.
2016-08-08 02:20 Kawawa: 00:30:908 - add a note at here? for crash sound
2016-08-08 02:20 Kawawa: like 00:31:221 (31221|3,31221|1) -
2016-08-08 02:20 Kawawa: you kept 2note.
2016-08-08 02:20 Kawawa: 00:30:908 - so you can add 1 at col 5
2016-08-08 02:21 LordRaika: wont it be too hard? for me, its like 1 new LN plus 1 note, same with 2note
2016-08-08 02:21 Kawawa: It is not hard than thinking
2016-08-08 02:22 LordRaika: or hows this http://puu.sh/qt0Rp.jpg, there are lots of player hate of bracket pattern ....
2016-08-08 02:22 Kawawa: yeah sure
2016-08-08 02:22 LordRaika: ok
2016-08-08 02:23 LordRaika: Kawawa.... 00:30:908 - adding 1 note here... increase the star rating from 6.0 into 6.01
2016-08-08 02:23 LordRaika: wwkwkwkwkkwkw
2016-08-08 02:23 Kawawa: hahahaha
2016-08-08 02:23 Kawawa: you can reject
2016-08-08 02:23 LordRaika: its just weird
2016-08-08 02:23 Kawawa: It will not be issue anyway
2016-08-08 02:23 LordRaika: im sure its not that hard
2016-08-08 02:24 LordRaika: YES
2016-08-08 02:24 Kawawa: 00:32:471 - ~ 00:38:096 -
2016-08-08 02:24 Kawawa: in this part
2016-08-08 02:24 LordRaika: but people are already saying the SR is overrating :D
2016-08-08 02:24 Kawawa: I feel weird to me.
2016-08-08 02:24 Kawawa: 00:34:658 (34658|0,34736|2,34814|6,34892|0,34971|4,35049|2,35127|6,35205|0,35283|4,35361|2,35439|6,35517|4,35596|0,35674|2,35752|6,35830|4,35908|1,35986|3,36064|5,36142|3,36221|1,36299|5,36377|3,36455|5,36533|1,36611|3,36689|1,36767|5,36846|0,36924|6,37002|0,37080|6,37158|0,37236|6,37314|0,37392|6,37471|0,37549|6,37627|0,37705|6,37783|0,37861|6,37939|0,38017|6) -
2016-08-08 02:24 Kawawa: especially this patter.
2016-08-08 02:24 LordRaika: oh
2016-08-08 02:24 LordRaika: its increasing difficulty
2016-08-08 02:24 Kawawa: yeah, I know high up fr music
2016-08-08 02:24 LordRaika: here is my explanation....
2016-08-08 02:24 Kawawa: for music
2016-08-08 02:25 Kawawa: but almost pattern are really tricky
2016-08-08 02:25 Kawawa: for readable
2016-08-08 02:25 LordRaika: 00:33:408 - 1/2 trill, easy.... 00:34:658 - 1/4 random on 4 column, 00:35:908 - 1/4 on only 3 column, with more mini jack....
2016-08-08 02:25 LordRaika: oh, yes.... sure its tricky :D
2016-08-08 02:25 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/qt14o/3e907155bb.jpg
2016-08-08 02:25 LordRaika: the difficulty got increased...
2016-08-08 02:26 Kawawa: okay If you want to keep all totally
2016-08-08 02:26 Kawawa: then It's okay
2016-08-08 02:26 Kawawa: I respect all the creativity
2016-08-08 02:26 Kawawa: just wanted to ask for sure
2016-08-08 02:26 Kawawa: OWO
2016-08-08 02:26 LordRaika: thanks ^^b, i already got this from Evening, he want it to be a build up difficulty
2016-08-08 02:27 LordRaika: so yeah, preferrably i want to keep it
2016-08-08 02:27 Kawawa: yeah, of course It's hard pattern step by step
2016-08-08 02:27 Kawawa: 00:41:533 - add a note?
2016-08-08 02:28 Kawawa: want to ignore the last section?
2016-08-08 02:28 LordRaika: yeah
2016-08-08 02:28 LordRaika: hehe
2016-08-08 02:29 LordRaika: its too vague, and this pattern looks better, than additional more mini jack
2016-08-08 02:29 LordRaika: mini trill
2016-08-08 02:30 Kawawa: 00:51:533 (51533|1) - this sound should not be snapped 00:51:689 - at here?
2016-08-08 02:30 Kawawa: I heard that as same sounds with 00:51:221 (51221|1) -
2016-08-08 02:31 LordRaika: >_< actually... i add note here 00:51:689 - , and 00:51:533 - before
2016-08-08 02:31 LordRaika: but i remove 00:51:689 - because others said its too vague
2016-08-08 02:31 Kawawa: oh I see
2016-08-08 02:31 Kawawa: alright
2016-08-08 02:31 LordRaika: so, it does have sound on both 00:51:689 - and 00:51:533 - right? so i can keep them?
2016-08-08 02:32 Kawawa: yeah you can keep
2016-08-08 02:32 Kawawa: anyway both have sounds
2016-08-08 02:32 LordRaika: ok, i will add it
2016-08-08 02:32 LordRaika: http://puu.sh/qt1oB.jpg back to the first pattern XD
2016-08-08 02:32 LordRaika: haha
2016-08-08 02:32 Kawawa: lol
2016-08-08 02:32 LordRaika: ^^b
2016-08-08 02:32 LordRaika: thx for the confirmation
2016-08-08 02:32 Kawawa: 00:55:361 (55361|2) - It is intention?
2016-08-08 02:33 Kawawa: and you did not put add a note in this section 00:55:454 -
2016-08-08 02:35 LordRaika: yeah it is... hmm ok, so i will add the extra note...
2016-08-08 02:35 Kawawa: 01:03:721 - ~ 01:04:033 - what do you think about this part
2016-08-08 02:36 LordRaika: not that hard
2016-08-08 02:36 LordRaika: reminds me of the mixed snap on end time and dragon valley
2016-08-08 02:36 LordRaika: hahahah
2016-08-08 02:37 Kawawa: It's not hard. I mean, you wanna keep all?
2016-08-08 02:37 Kawawa: I think can be improved something in advance
2016-08-08 02:37 LordRaika: improved like?
2016-08-08 02:37 LordRaika: but yes, i want to keep it, unless it could be better ;D
2016-08-08 02:38 Kawawa: alright
2016-08-08 02:39 Kawawa: 01:11:221 (71221|1,71221|6,71221|0,71221|2,71260|5,71299|4,71338|3,71377|2,71377|6,71377|1,71377|0,71416|5,71455|4,71494|3,71533|0,71533|1,71533|2,71533|6,71572|5,71611|4,71650|3,71689|2,71689|1,71689|6,71689|0,71728|5,71767|4,71806|3,71846|5,71846|1,71846|6,71846|2,71846|0) -
2016-08-08 02:39 Kawawa: It also?
2016-08-08 02:39 LordRaika: yeah XD
2016-08-08 02:40 LordRaika: hehehe
2016-08-08 02:41 Kawawa: 01:40:752 (100752|5,100752|3,100752|1) - you feel sure? this LN's start section
2016-08-08 02:42 Kawawa: 01:40:596 - I feel here normally.
2016-08-08 02:42 LordRaika: hmm yes
2016-08-08 02:43 LordRaika: 01:40:596 (100596|1,100752|1) - this two have the same pitch
2016-08-08 02:43 LordRaika: thats my reason
2016-08-08 02:44 Kawawa: If you want to keep this
2016-08-08 02:44 Kawawa: then I recommend you add 1 at col 6 01:40:596 -
2016-08-08 02:44 LordRaika: yep, im pretty sure it is
2016-08-08 02:44 Kawawa: you said as same pitch.
2016-08-08 02:44 Kawawa: and It will be seperated with this 01:40:752 (100752|3,101221|3) -
2016-08-08 02:44 Kawawa: make sure.
2016-08-08 02:45 LordRaika: hmm yes
2016-08-08 02:45 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/qt23r/064dbae38d.jpg
2016-08-08 02:45 LordRaika: i jst making it less impact
2016-08-08 02:46 Kawawa: depend on you
2016-08-08 02:46 Kawawa: If there's intention, will not be issue
2016-08-08 02:48 LordRaika: let me think of something for this
2016-08-08 02:50 LordRaika: 01:40:596 - what do u thin of this? >>> http://puu.sh/qt2lC.png
2016-08-08 02:51 Kawawa: good
2016-08-08 02:51 Kawawa: 01:41:846 - but you can kepe 3notes at here
2016-08-08 02:51 Kawawa: It is better
2016-08-08 02:52 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/qt2r8/24d99fd725.jpg
2016-08-08 02:52 LordRaika: allrite :D
2016-08-08 02:53 Kawawa: 01:54:241 (114241|4,114293|5,114346|6) - I don't feel like good this
2016-08-08 02:53 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/qt2v8/d0695fc0b5.jpg
2016-08-08 02:53 Kawawa: what do you think about.
2016-08-08 02:53 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/qt2x1/c45b8ffe63.jpg
2016-08-08 02:53 Kawawa: you can think these structure as well.
2016-08-08 02:54 LordRaika: 01:54:346 - but the piano ends here
2016-08-08 02:54 LordRaika: that 1/6 short ln is too short, thats why i dont want to end it like that
2016-08-08 02:55 Kawawa: 02:04:033 (124033|0,124111|1,124189|2,124267|3,124346|0) - It also same to me.
2016-08-08 02:56 Kawawa: you wanna keep all these structure?
2016-08-08 02:56 LordRaika: yep :D
2016-08-08 02:56 LordRaika: Kawawaaaaaaaa-chan
2016-08-08 02:56 LordRaika: try this map :D
2016-08-08 02:56 Kawawa: 02:09:267 (129267|3) - move to 5
2016-08-08 02:56 LordRaika: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/278050 Aoi Eir - INNOCENCE (TV Size)]
2016-08-08 02:56 LordRaika: lv26, the opening
2016-08-08 02:56 Kawawa: oh yaa
2016-08-08 02:56 LordRaika: you will know, WHY....
2016-08-08 02:57 LordRaika: and all this pattern i did on my LN practice pack, especially lv 6 :D
2016-08-08 02:57 Kawawa: oops
2016-08-08 02:57 Kawawa: dl so slow
2016-08-08 02:57 LordRaika: its allrite :D
2016-08-08 02:58 LordRaika: jst try the opening... u will see this pattern
2016-08-08 02:58 LordRaika: and check your acc
2016-08-08 02:58 Kawawa: ACTION is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/278050 Aoi Eir - INNOCENCE (TV Size) [Lv.26]] <osu!mania> |7K|
2016-08-08 02:59 LordRaika: u get 100% right?
2016-08-08 02:59 LordRaika: jst do a normal stair :D
2016-08-08 03:00 LordRaika: its an old map haha
2016-08-08 03:01 Kawawa: but It just expressed synth sounds without any note
2016-08-08 03:01 Kawawa: so It's okay I think.
2016-08-08 03:01 LordRaika: this kind of pattern, Stair-ed LN
2016-08-08 03:01 LordRaika: i want to let player know, its actually easy....
2016-08-08 03:01 Kawawa: but I'm sure yours also will not be issue.
2016-08-08 03:01 LordRaika: thanks XD
2016-08-08 03:01 Kawawa: I did not be serious haha
2016-08-08 03:01 LordRaika: i knw >w<
2016-08-08 03:01 LordRaika: i love to discuss things
2016-08-08 03:02 LordRaika: dont worry
2016-08-08 03:02 LordRaika: oh if u want
2016-08-08 03:02 Kawawa: okay to be continuce
2016-08-08 03:02 LordRaika: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/811899 Raika - Long Note Practice Pack]
2016-08-08 03:02 LordRaika: u can try this lv6 7k
2016-08-08 03:02 Kawawa: oh yeahh
2016-08-08 03:02 LordRaika: i think u have the beatmap already
2016-08-08 03:02 Kawawa: I played it a lots. I just got ransome ware my computer recently.
2016-08-08 03:02 Kawawa: so I did format my computer
2016-08-08 03:02 Kawawa: so lost all the song.
2016-08-08 03:02 LordRaika: ah , ok XD
2016-08-08 03:03 LordRaika: then, continue on dreadnought
2016-08-08 03:03 Kawawa: wait
2016-08-08 03:03 Kawawa: I want to play 1time
2016-08-08 03:03 Kawawa: =w=
2016-08-08 03:03 LordRaika: (and this kind of pattern is also exist on dragon valley)
2016-08-08 03:03 LordRaika: <3
2016-08-08 03:03 Kawawa: ACTION is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/816622 Raika - Long Note Practice Pack [Level(0)7K - 0.5Lift]] <osu!mania> |7K|
2016-08-08 03:03 Kawawa: this?
2016-08-08 03:03 LordRaika: wow Lv0
2016-08-08 03:03 LordRaika: i expect lv6 :D
2016-08-08 03:04 LordRaika: Expew can "A" this lv 0, and jinjin can 96% this lv 0
2016-08-08 03:04 LordRaika: ET >_<
2016-08-08 03:05 Kawawa: yay
2016-08-08 03:05 Kawawa: need warm up
2016-08-08 03:05 Kawawa: but got high score
2016-08-08 03:05 LordRaika: its ok, still awesome ^^b
2016-08-08 03:06 LordRaika: haha
2016-08-08 03:06 Kawawa: I love this as well
2016-08-08 03:06 Kawawa: ACTION is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/811904 Raika - Long Note Practice Pack [Level(9)7K]] <osu!mania> |7K|
2016-08-08 03:06 LordRaika: try LV6 :D/
2016-08-08 03:08 Kawawa: g/np
2016-08-08 03:08 Kawawa: ACTION is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/811899 Raika - Long Note Practice Pack [Level(6)7K]] <osu!mania> |7K|
2016-08-08 03:08 Kawawa: it's?
2016-08-08 03:08 LordRaika: yep
2016-08-08 03:08 LordRaika: notice the STAIR LN :D
2016-08-08 03:10 Kawawa: cool!
2016-08-08 03:10 LordRaika: well... basically u just swipe it like normal stair :D
2016-08-08 03:10 LordRaika: thats it
2016-08-08 03:10 Kawawa: yeah. that's right.
2016-08-08 03:10 LordRaika: (i try them all a loooots)
2016-08-08 03:10 LordRaika: and still get 300
2016-08-08 03:11 Kawawa: okay let's do continue
2016-08-08 03:11 Kawawa: owO
2016-08-08 03:11 LordRaika: sometimes, 1/4 is harder, but 3/8 is easier, depend on the length
2016-08-08 03:11 LordRaika: 100ms length of LN is good for swiping
2016-08-08 03:11 LordRaika: allrite >w</
2016-08-08 03:11 Kawawa: 02:09:267 (129267|3) - I recommend you this move to 5
2016-08-08 03:11 Kawawa: at least.
2016-08-08 03:12 Kawawa: then new trill section will be started from main timing section 02:09:346 -
2016-08-08 03:12 Kawawa: and it's more smooth playable to me.
2016-08-08 03:13 LordRaika: yep
2016-08-08 03:13 LordRaika: done
2016-08-08 03:14 Kawawa: oh And.
2016-08-08 03:14 Kawawa: avalon told me
2016-08-08 03:14 Kawawa: please take a look on this part again in both diff 01:31:533 - i assumed it's following different sound so i think it's fine
2016-08-08 03:14 Kawawa: what do you think about this?
2016-08-08 03:14 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/qt3Cm/451b558054.jpg
2016-08-08 03:16 LordRaika: http://puu.sh/qt3Gj.png probably mean this synth sound?
2016-08-08 03:16 LordRaika: but to be safe, i follow the other hihat...
2016-08-08 03:16 LordRaika: 1/6 , what do u think?
2016-08-08 03:16 LordRaika: it does sounds correct
2016-08-08 03:17 Kawawa: yeah It is 1/3
2016-08-08 03:17 Kawawa: but you followed the normal drum snap
2016-08-08 03:17 Kawawa: so It's okay.
2016-08-08 03:18 LordRaika: let me jst use 1/6 (the red line is important as well haha)
2016-08-08 03:18 Kawawa: 01:32:314 - ~ 01:32:471 - because you also did not follow synth in this part
2016-08-08 03:18 LordRaika: allrite then >w< for a better consistency for both diff
2016-08-08 03:18 Kawawa: no no
2016-08-08 03:18 Kawawa: just keep this pattern
2016-08-08 03:18 LordRaika: ah right
2016-08-08 03:18 LordRaika: i didnt follow the 1/6
2016-08-08 03:18 Kawawa: yeah
2016-08-08 03:18 Kawawa: will be better.
2016-08-08 03:18 Kawawa: owo
2016-08-08 03:19 LordRaika: then i will leave it
2016-08-08 03:19 Kawawa: good.
2016-08-08 03:19 LordRaika: ^^b
2016-08-08 03:19 LordRaika: now its confirmed
2016-08-08 03:19 Kawawa: yeahh
2016-08-08 03:20 Kawawa: 02:29:346 - add at 4?
2016-08-08 03:21 Kawawa: started the snare sounds from this section
2016-08-08 03:21 Kawawa: like 02:29:658 (149658|3,149971|3,150283|3) -
2016-08-08 03:21 LordRaika: sure :D
2016-08-08 03:22 Kawawa: 02:31:689 - ~ 02:31:846 - It feel weird.
2016-08-08 03:22 Kawawa: when I considered with this 02:30:439 (150439|4,150439|1,150517|2,150517|5) -
2016-08-08 03:22 Kawawa: I will give you feedback. keep the 3note at here 02:31:846 -
2016-08-08 03:22 Kawawa: and like this http://puu.sh/qt429/52236736d7.jpg
2016-08-08 03:22 LordRaika: well true
2016-08-08 03:22 LordRaika: its different
2016-08-08 03:22 Kawawa: you used 3note at here.
2016-08-08 03:22 Kawawa: 02:30:596 -
2016-08-08 03:23 Kawawa: 02:31:846 - so It also can be consitency with previous crash section.
2016-08-08 03:23 Kawawa: and add a note at here 02:31:689 -
2016-08-08 03:23 LordRaika: sure
2016-08-08 03:23 LordRaika: :D
2016-08-08 03:24 LordRaika: 02:31:767 (151767|2) - is this fine?
2016-08-08 03:24 LordRaika: the tiny trill?
2016-08-08 03:25 Kawawa: It's okay
2016-08-08 03:25 Kawawa: It feel just stair pattern than trill
2016-08-08 03:26 Kawawa: 02:52:978 (172978|1,172978|6) -
2016-08-08 03:26 LordRaika: http://puu.sh/qt4fx.png wait, let me do this, match the next pattern :D
2016-08-08 03:26 Kawawa: It is oh yeahh
2016-08-08 03:26 Kawawa: when you done, tell me
2016-08-08 03:27 LordRaika: 02:52:978 (172978|1,172978|6) - do u want me to remove one?
2016-08-08 03:27 Kawawa: yeah
2016-08-08 03:27 Kawawa: should be.
2016-08-08 03:27 Kawawa: I think.
2016-08-08 03:28 Kawawa: or
2016-08-08 03:28 Kawawa: I will give you feed bavk
2016-08-08 03:29 Kawawa: use 2note at here
2016-08-08 03:29 LordRaika: i did try it... the jack could be a little hard but i like it for the finisher
2016-08-08 03:29 LordRaika: what do u think?
2016-08-08 03:29 Kawawa: It does not be issue for pattern.
2016-08-08 03:29 Kawawa: but note amounts are
2016-08-08 03:29 Kawawa: something not sure on yellow section 2chord
2016-08-08 03:30 Kawawa: so I recommend you red line http://puu.sh/qt4oN/771149b551.jpg
2016-08-08 03:30 Kawawa: like these
2016-08-08 03:32 LordRaika: aaa, sry i got dc
2016-08-08 03:32 LordRaika: ;w;
2016-08-08 03:32 Kawawa: ohh
2016-08-08 03:32 Kawawa: maybe you could not get my message
2016-08-08 03:32 Kawawa: wait
2016-08-08 03:32 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/qt4A2/53291f7c2a.jpg
2016-08-08 03:35 LordRaika: ok
2016-08-08 03:35 LordRaika: i will make the LN shorter
2016-08-08 03:35 Kawawa: yeah, someone can point it out.
2016-08-08 03:35 LordRaika: 02:52:392 - i end the LN here
2016-08-08 03:35 LordRaika: for easier
2016-08-08 03:35 LordRaika: easier rhythm
2016-08-08 03:35 Kawawa: yeah
2016-08-08 03:35 LordRaika: and snap
2016-08-08 03:35 Kawawa: 00:39:658 (39658|2,39658|0) - and what do you think about these two as well?
2016-08-08 03:36 LordRaika: http://puu.sh/qt4LY.png
2016-08-08 03:36 LordRaika: i like them that way :D
2016-08-08 03:36 LordRaika: aaaa
2016-08-08 03:36 Kawawa: okay can keep then
2016-08-08 03:36 Kawawa: but consider, that background instrumen really finished on this section 00:40:596 -
2016-08-08 03:37 Kawawa: 02:32:471 (152471|0) - It also someone can point it out.
2016-08-08 03:37 Kawawa: but you can keep.
2016-08-08 03:38 Kawawa: and you wanna keep 2 note on this section? 02:52:978 -
2016-08-08 03:38 LordRaika: hwo about this http://puu.sh/qt4UG.jpg
2016-08-08 03:39 Kawawa: just keep now pattern
2016-08-08 03:39 LordRaika: yeah, its weird XD if i remove one, the blank part looks a bit unbalance
2016-08-08 03:39 Kawawa: shouhttp://puu.sh/qt4Xn/f427c25e67.jpg
2016-08-08 03:39 Kawawa: yeah
2016-08-08 03:39 Kawawa: just keep this
2016-08-08 03:39 Kawawa: then
2016-08-08 03:40 LordRaika: >w<
2016-08-08 03:40 Kawawa: 02:52:978 -
2016-08-08 03:40 Kawawa: wanna keep this 2note?
2016-08-08 03:41 Kawawa: better to red line
2016-08-08 03:41 LordRaika: oh nice idea
2016-08-08 03:41 LordRaika: ^^b
2016-08-08 03:42 Kawawa: yeahh please show me If you done
2016-08-08 03:51 LordRaika: T_T dc
2016-08-08 03:51 Kawawa: hahaha
2016-08-08 03:51 LordRaika: bad connection time XD
2016-08-08 03:51 LordRaika: http://puu.sh/qt5EV.png fixed one, looks good
2016-08-08 03:51 Kawawa: okay
2016-08-08 03:51 Kawawa: continue?
2016-08-08 03:51 Kawawa: rady?
2016-08-08 03:52 Kawawa: ready?
2016-08-08 03:52 LordRaika: yep
2016-08-08 03:52 LordRaika: anything else?
2016-08-08 03:52 Kawawa: 03:13:877 (193877|6,193955|5,194033|4,194111|3) - Why end of LNs snapped? at 03:14:228 -
2016-08-08 03:52 Kawawa: on 8snap yellow section
2016-08-08 03:52 LordRaika: to give more spacing
2016-08-08 03:52 Kawawa: hhmmm
2016-08-08 03:52 LordRaika: before shielding
2016-08-08 03:52 LordRaika: , do u prefer it to be 1/4 spacing of shielding?
2016-08-08 03:53 Kawawa: yeah
2016-08-08 03:53 LordRaika: i dont mind of this 1/8
2016-08-08 03:53 Kawawa: I think It should be snapped at here03:14:189 -
2016-08-08 03:53 LordRaika: hmm i see
2016-08-08 03:53 LordRaika: 03:14:267 - how about here
2016-08-08 03:53 Kawawa: If It snapped at here 03:14:267 -
2016-08-08 03:53 Kawawa: It is okay
2016-08-08 03:53 LordRaika: 03:14:111 (194111|3) - i dont want this to be too short
2016-08-08 03:53 Kawawa: 03:14:228 - but It is not good.
2016-08-08 03:54 Kawawa: yeah save on 03:14:267 -
2016-08-08 03:54 LordRaika: 03:14:267 - here?
2016-08-08 03:54 Kawawa: yeah
2016-08-08 03:54 LordRaika: ok
2016-08-08 03:54 LordRaika: this looks like an usual shielding XD
2016-08-08 03:54 LordRaika: haha...
2016-08-08 03:54 Kawawa: =w=
2016-08-08 03:54 Kawawa: 03:37:939 - 03:38:017 - Add a note? consitency with previous part 02:30:439 (150439|4,150517|5) -
2016-08-08 03:54 LordRaika: that 3/8 spacing is easier but ... err probably looks weird on editor haha
2016-08-08 03:54 Kawawa: yeahh
2016-08-08 03:56 LordRaika: http://puu.sh/qt5Ts.png hows this
2016-08-08 03:56 Kawawa: hmmm
2016-08-08 03:56 Kawawa: 212 trill
2016-08-08 03:56 LordRaika: http://puu.sh/qt5UX.png yeah, worry bout this trill
2016-08-08 03:57 Kawawa: hmm you can keep as intention
2016-08-08 03:57 Kawawa: 03:39:189 - because you did not put note at here
2016-08-08 03:58 LordRaika: great >w<
2016-08-08 03:58 Kawawa: alright
2016-08-08 03:58 Kawawa: then pass this
2016-08-08 03:58 Kawawa: lets do continue
2016-08-08 03:58 Kawawa: 03:59:267 - Add a note. same constency with 03:58:017 -
2016-08-08 03:58 Kawawa: and there's a drum impact than 03:58:017 -
2016-08-08 03:58 LordRaika: k k k
2016-08-08 03:59 LordRaika: ok :D added
2016-08-08 04:00 Kawawa: 04:19:346 (259346|0) - about this LNs.
2016-08-08 04:00 Kawawa: background instrument are seperated as 04:19:346 - 04:19:971 - 04:20:596 -
2016-08-08 04:00 Kawawa: but you kept it as one of them only.
2016-08-08 04:01 Kawawa: wanna keep?
2016-08-08 04:01 Kawawa: I think It's okay.
2016-08-08 04:01 Kawawa: but wanna hear your opinion in case
2016-08-08 04:01 LordRaika: http://puu.sh/qt5UX.png this looks good :D
2016-08-08 04:01 LordRaika: what do u think?
2016-08-08 04:02 LordRaika: for a final and finishing pattern
2016-08-08 04:02 Kawawa: you showed me this http://puu.sh/qt5UX.png
2016-08-08 04:02 Kawawa: ?_?
2016-08-08 04:02 Kawawa: wrong puush link?
2016-08-08 04:02 LordRaika: yeah XD
2016-08-08 04:02 LordRaika: waiting for the uploaded
2016-08-08 04:02 LordRaika: http://puu.sh/qt6eV.png
2016-08-08 04:02 LordRaika: not finished
2016-08-08 04:02 LordRaika: and then i jst paste it
2016-08-08 04:02 LordRaika: hahaha
2016-08-08 04:03 Kawawa: 04:19:346 (259346|0) -
2016-08-08 04:03 Kawawa: wait
2016-08-08 04:03 Kawawa: imma puush
2016-08-08 04:03 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/qt6k7/0124f3f208.jpg
2016-08-08 04:04 Kawawa: ^ It is better to play
2016-08-08 04:04 Kawawa: because http://puu.sh/qt6mO/93ed80b18b.jpg
2016-08-08 04:04 Kawawa: It is really not good for structure and playable as well.
2016-08-08 04:04 LordRaika: niceeeeee
2016-08-08 04:05 Kawawa: but think about
2016-08-08 04:05 Kawawa: that part is same with 02:51:846 (171846|6,172471|0) -
2016-08-08 04:05 LordRaika: since most shield is 1/4 , i forgot
2016-08-08 04:05 Kawawa: should be consistency for the LN's length.
2016-08-08 04:05 LordRaika: this 1/2 gap is also good
2016-08-08 04:05 LordRaika: its fine
2016-08-08 04:05 LordRaika: i made each section rather different
2016-08-08 04:05 LordRaika: for a variation :D
2016-08-08 04:07 Kawawa: 04:40:205 (280205|2) - move to 6?
2016-08-08 04:07 Kawawa: 04:40:205 (280205|2,280283|1,280322|2) -
2016-08-08 04:07 Kawawa: because of this
2016-08-08 04:07 LordRaika: sure
2016-08-08 04:07 LordRaika: its also make a good pair with 04:40:517 (280517|0,280517|1) -
2016-08-08 04:07 Kawawa: yup
2016-08-08 04:07 Kawawa: 04:55:596 - add at 7?
2016-08-08 04:08 LordRaika: ok
2016-08-08 04:08 Kawawa: 04:56:377 - ~ 04:56:846 -
2016-08-08 04:08 Kawawa: you can add a note on each section as snare drum.
2016-08-08 04:09 Kawawa: like 04:55:283 (295283|6,295283|0,295361|4,295361|2,295439|0,295439|6,295517|4,295517|2) -
2016-08-08 04:09 LordRaika: add note on 1/2
2016-08-08 04:09 LordRaika: but not full 1/4
2016-08-08 04:10 LordRaika: http://puu.sh/qt6I8.jpg
2016-08-08 04:10 Kawawa: okay
2016-08-08 04:11 Kawawa: all the pattern confirmed.
2016-08-08 04:11 Kawawa: mehh, about SV
2016-08-08 04:11 Kawawa: SV are different with 4K on some part
2016-08-08 04:11 Kawawa: where you added?
2016-08-08 04:11 Kawawa: than 4K?
2016-08-08 04:12 LordRaika: actually Kyou want to copy mine
2016-08-08 04:12 LordRaika: he might forgot
2016-08-08 04:12 LordRaika: but i will let him update one more time
2016-08-08 04:13 Kawawa: 03:19:346 - ~ 03:20:596 -
2016-08-08 04:13 Kawawa: 00:52:314 - ~ 00:52:471 -
2016-08-08 04:13 Kawawa: 00:52:783 - ~ 00:53:096 -
2016-08-08 04:13 Kawawa: added than 4K
2016-08-08 04:13 Kawawa: right?
2016-08-08 04:14 LordRaika: u mean, the SV does nothing?
2016-08-08 04:14 LordRaika: haha
2016-08-08 04:14 Kawawa: nah,
2016-08-08 04:14 Kawawa: I mean
2016-08-08 04:15 Kawawa: It used on 7K diffs only.
2016-08-08 04:15 Kawawa: right?
2016-08-08 04:15 Kawawa: because I could not see this SV on 4K.
2016-08-08 04:15 LordRaika: actually 4k copy the 7k SV
2016-08-08 04:15 LordRaika: haha
2016-08-08 04:15 LordRaika: and he might remove it
2016-08-08 04:16 LordRaika: and its fine
2016-08-08 04:16 LordRaika: he didnt use it
2016-08-08 04:16 LordRaika: he didnt add note
2016-08-08 04:16 Kawawa: yeah. I guess so
2016-08-08 04:17 Kawawa: can you give me your osz file?
2016-08-08 04:18 Kawawa: let me test play
2016-08-08 04:18 LordRaika: can i jst give osu file?
2016-08-08 04:18 LordRaika: haha
2016-08-08 04:18 LordRaika: http://puu.sh/qt7dN.zip
2016-08-08 04:19 Kawawa: ACTION is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/923665 Mastermind(xi+nora2r) - Dreadnought [LordRaika's 7K Onslaught]] <osu!mania> |7K|
2016-08-08 04:19 Kawawa: alright
2016-08-08 04:19 Kawawa: applied.
2016-08-08 04:24 LordRaika: !!!!!!!!!!!!
2016-08-08 04:24 LordRaika: how much score u get from pyakura's version?
2016-08-08 04:24 Kawawa: NIICE
2016-08-08 04:24 Kawawa: pyakura's version
2016-08-08 04:24 Kawawa: my score is 920
2016-08-08 04:24 LordRaika: DAMN
2016-08-08 04:24 Kawawa: but I can get 960 nearly your version
2016-08-08 04:24 LordRaika: that was high
2016-08-08 04:25 LordRaika: i see
2016-08-08 04:25 Kawawa: I just bad condition
2016-08-08 04:25 Kawawa: now
2016-08-08 04:25 Kawawa: =w=
2016-08-08 04:25 LordRaika: yeah
2016-08-08 04:25 Kawawa: anyway I love your pattern
2016-08-08 04:25 LordRaika: then i think its not much differences but for sure, mine is a bit easier :D
2016-08-08 04:25 Kawawa: smooth playable than others
2016-08-08 04:25 LordRaika: t-thx >_</
2016-08-08 04:25 Kawawa: good job! that's all. OwO
2016-08-08 04:25 Kawawa: I will back after SV check with general later.
2016-08-08 04:25 LordRaika: hawawawa XD thanks for the check
2016-08-08 04:26 LordRaika: ok
2016-08-08 04:26 LordRaika: so its done for mine?
2016-08-08 04:26 Kawawa: yeah.
2016-08-08 04:26 LordRaika: (i will give my update directly to Kyou)
2016-08-08 04:26 Kawawa: hahaha
2016-08-08 04:26 LordRaika: so that i didnt add a new post
2016-08-08 04:26 Kawawa: yeah It's okay owwo
Hitsound, SV (16th, August)
23:28 Kawawa: just 1 issue for me
23:28 Kawawa: on 4K
23:28 *Kawawa is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/871129 Mastermind(xi+nora2r) - Dreadnought [4K Battlespace]]
23:29 Kyousuke-: oh i see
23:29 Kawawa: 00:41:474 - this section only
23:29 Kawawa: you copied fron 7K.
23:29 Kyousuke-: oh yes xd
23:29 Kawawa: but this section can be compared with 7k.
23:29 Kyousuke-: at first i told him to make the sv lol
23:29 Kawawa: 7K does not have a note at here 00:41:533 -
23:29 Kyousuke-: so delete? xd
23:30 Kyousuke-: yea i just realize it ._.
23:30 Kawawa: or
23:30 Kawawa: 00:41:533 (41533|0) -
23:30 Kawawa: you can remove this note only
23:30 Kyousuke-: which do you prefer? o.o
23:31 Kawawa: remove a note 00:41:533 (41533|0) -
23:31 Kawawa: for consitency with 7K.
23:31 Kawawa: If you remove this one, then you can keep the 8snap section's SV
23:31 Kyousuke-: okkie
23:31 Kyousuke-: done then
23:34 Kawawa: do you have alzip?
23:35 Kyousuke-: alzip?
23:35 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/qDmZB/deac38b340.zip
23:35 Kawawa: some hitsound delay fixed
23:35 Kawawa: change this
Alright, All confirmed. :) :) :) :)
Kawawa
Approved!!

OWO Congratz!! :) :) :) :) :) :)
Topic Starter
Kyousuke-
finally!!11!!1
hype 7K pp lmao

big thanks to all those who contributed in this map! xD
PyaKura
Gratz!
Reba
oh wow gratz~
Arzenvald
my bg qualified yey
grats!
Topic Starter
Kyousuke-

PyaKura wrote:

Gratz!

Lass wrote:

oh wow gratz~

ajeemaniz wrote:

my bg qualified yey
grats!
thank you guys!
/hope your bg will ranked soon lol
[ A v a l o n ]
HBD lek ~
Kyouren

IamKwaN wrote:

Source has to be there, similar to full version anime openings/endings having the anime name as Source.
Source link: p/5160397#p5160397
kagiii
parah :(
IamKwaN
ok, BMS has to be there
Topic Starter
Kyousuke-

IamKwaN wrote:

ok, BMS has to be there
donee, thanks kwan!
ArcherLove
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while i think what you've pmed me is fine, i think adding an addition rhythm at 01:33:408 - would be great for keeping the player's rhythm as starting on a 1/3 beat there is something that pretty much never happens in any map
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