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Sonnyc
• Storyboard image file dimensions are more than allowed maximum ( 640x1440 or 1920x480 for scrolling images) or (1366x768)
{sb\burst.png} (1100x1100)
[Hard]
00:17:661 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Consider changing the flow to anti clockwise. Since the same flow keeps going here, it felt a little boring here.
02:07:869 (1) - Sure for this nc?
02:40:403 (2,3,1) - Spacing is inconsistent due to sv change. Make it consistent.
03:07:184 (4,1) - Yes the reverse arrow is visible, but only after (4) ends. Since this is a relatively lower diff, I highly recommend you to make a safer visibility.
03:43:583 (2) - 03:46:704 (3) - spacing.
03:57:882 (3) - Vague rhythm. Rather starting the slider from 03:57:740 (2) will be more fitting the song.
04:02:422 (3) - Same.
03:57:882 (3,1) - 04:02:422 (3,1) - Hope spacing is consistent. Also hope some consistency for 03:58:875 (1,2) - 04:03:415 (3) too.
04:06:253 (5) - The song is a little different with 04:05:118 (1,2,3,4). Using a same slider with a same combo didn't felt nice.
Check copy paste sections too for upper two mods.
05:26:752 (1) - Sure NC? Even there is a sampleset change, NC felt too much.
06:42:711 (1) - Consistent spacing plz with previous 1/4 plz.
06:53:284 (1) - This doesn't have to be a 10 seconds spinner. Strongly consider reducing the length.
08:25:155 (3,4) - Consider making (3) a reverse slider since (4) isn't that strong in beat to demand a click.
[The World]
04:48:183 - 07:58:903 - Let's make the volume for red & greenline consistent.
00:40:532 (1,2,3,4) - Avoiding overlaps to indicate this as a slider properly would be recommended.
00:43:909 - Consider adding a note. Besides, the spacing of 00:43:674 (1,1,2) felt a little suspicious imo in logic.
00:44:616 (1) - Using a different shape to indicate the sv change better is recommended.
01:16:030 (1,1) - Consider using a consistent spacing with 01:15:402 (1,1).
01:44:726 (4,1,2) - Weird spacing. Put more space between (1,2) to indicate 1/1 rhythm.
02:19:869 (1,2) - First of all, set nc at (2) to indicate the sv change. I personally don't like how the sv changes here, since both slider length are the same, since as it is done with an overlap, but well at least change the nc plz.
02:25:019 - Whistle for audibility plz.
02:40:759 (2) - Removing this rhythm and restructuring your pattern will fit the music better.
05:31:136 (1,2,3) - The rhythm transition here felt pretty sudden considering the previous jump usage. Using a slider for the initial transition for intuitive reading is highly recommended.
05:49:598 ~ 06:04:368 - Use more claps. The music has got claps every two beat. You'll want to express that.
06:53:284 (1) - This doesn't have to be a 10 seconds spinner. Strongly consider reducing the length.

Not bad. Actually, it could be even considered as "good" considering this for your first ranked map. Just that I personally had expected much higher quality for such project. Will make something clear, and then push this mapset.
Yuii-
That Putin's track from Hellblinde sounds REALLY bad in terms of quality. It's like barely audible. Could you at least trying to lower the hitsounds from this section? Seriously, it's almost inaudible :(
Topic Starter
Exile-

Sonnyc wrote:

• Storyboard image file dimensions are more than allowed maximum ( 640x1440 or 1920x480 for scrolling images) or (1366x768)
{sb\burst.png} (1100x1100) Fixed
[The World]
04:48:183 - 07:58:903 - Let's make the volume for red & greenline consistent. Sure
00:40:532 (1,2,3,4) - Avoiding overlaps to indicate this as a slider properly would be recommended. Forced me to change the pattern a bit but it looks quite good now
00:43:909 - Consider adding a note. Besides, the spacing of 00:43:674 (1,1,2) felt a little suspicious imo in logic. Done
00:44:616 (1) - Using a different shape to indicate the sv change better is recommended. Made some kind of worm
01:16:030 (1,1) - Consider using a consistent spacing with 01:15:402 (1,1). Sure
01:44:726 (4,1,2) - Weird spacing. Put more space between (1,2) to indicate 1/1 rhythm. I think I got it
02:19:869 (1,2) - First of all, set nc at (2) to indicate the sv change. I personally don't like how the sv changes here, since both slider length are the same, since as it is done with an overlap, but well at least change the nc plz. Actually, lets remove this SV change
02:25:019 - Whistle for audibility plz. Sure
02:40:759 (2) - Removing this rhythm and restructuring your pattern will fit the music better. Done
05:31:136 (1,2,3) - The rhythm transition here felt pretty sudden considering the previous jump usage. Using a slider for the initial transition for intuitive reading is highly recommended. Made something
05:49:598 ~ 06:04:368 - Use more claps. The music has got claps every two beat. You'll want to express that. Actually, I've put even more like in the original gangsta
06:53:284 (1) - This doesn't have to be a 10 seconds spinner. Strongly consider reducing the length. It works pretty well with the sound at 07:03:694 -. Also I want to keep it like in the original.

Not bad. Actually, it could be even considered as "good" considering this for your first ranked map. Just that I personally had expected much higher quality for such project. Will make something clear, and then push this mapset.
Thank you ^_^

Yuii- wrote:

That Putin's track from Hellblinde sounds REALLY bad in terms of quality. It's like barely audible. Could you at least trying to lower the hitsounds from this section? Seriously, it's almost inaudible :(
Lowered from 50% to 40%
ReFaller

Sonnyc wrote:

[Hard]
00:17:661 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Consider changing the flow to anti clockwise. Since the same flow keeps going here, it felt a little boring here. I already broke the Al-Azif's rule about these circles, but I may temporarily try this idea.
02:07:869 (1) - Sure for this nc? idk what this NC doing here XD
02:40:403 (2,3,1) - Spacing is inconsistent due to sv change. Make it consistent. Attempted to fix manual (without DS help)
03:07:184 (4,1) - Yes the reverse arrow is visible, but only after (4) ends. Since this is a relatively lower diff, I highly recommend you to make a safer visibility. This time, no better ideas than current.
03:43:583 (2) - 03:46:704 (3) - spacing. Exile- explained me about some numbers under beat divisor count.
03:57:882 (3) - Vague rhythm. Rather starting the slider from 03:57:740 (2) will be more fitting the song.
04:02:422 (3) - Same.
03:57:882 (3,1) - 04:02:422 (3,1) - Hope spacing is consistent after fix, sure. Also hope some consistency for 03:58:875 (1,2) - there are a jumps for "tei tei tei tei" words 04:03:415 (3) too - Its a part of triangle pattern
04:06:253 (5) - The song is a little different with 04:05:118 (1,2,3,4). Using a same slider with a same combo didn't felt nice. Let's say i can do NC here.
Check copy paste sections too for upper two mods. OKAY, ANDREA'S JUTSU SCROLL TECHNIQUE: COPY AND PASTE!!!
05:26:752 (1) - Sure NC? Even there is a sampleset change, NC felt too much. Let's say "yes".
06:42:711 (1) - Consistent spacing plz with previous 1/4 plz. Attempted to fix (when i can already read this numbers, but idk what was that earlier)
06:53:284 (1) - This doesn't have to be a 10 seconds spinner. Strongly consider reducing the length. Dear, you listened this song, you know Hollow Wings version, if not, watch here: https://osu.ppy.sh/b/412288 - you also know, that doing other lenght for this spinner conflicts with the song, so idk why you dared to notice it.
08:25:155 (3,4) - Consider making (3) a reverse slider since (4) isn't that strong in beat to demand a click. Good mention, i curved this slider additionally.

Not bad. Actually, it could be even considered as "good" considering this for your first ranked map. Just that I personally had expected much higher quality for such project. Will make something clear, and then push this mapset.
Thanks Sonic, long time no see from my first ranked (your beloved zigzags on Hard XD)

Edit: Forgotten copy paste for usatei, wait when Exile will apply this: http://puu.sh/om3Bh/10fb97bad3.osu

TYLKO PAMIĘTAJ O TAGACH ŻEBY NIE BYŁO DQ POTEM
Gabe
what a nice map! ♥
Topic Starter
Exile-
Updated~
ReFaller
TAGI ZŁE!!!
Topic Starter
Exile-

ReFaller wrote:

TAGI ZŁE!!!
fixed...
Phob
Od razu mówię, że to mój pierwszy modding.

The World

00:41:161 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) - To troszeczkę głupio wygląda... Przestaw te kółka, by robiły takie "ćwierćkoło" (xD), bo to się tak jakby zlewa ze sliderem... No i głupio to trochę wygląda. Jeśli tak właśnie chcesz zrobić to nie ma sprawy.
01:12:260 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) - Również trochę głupio wygląda. Rozdziel troszkę te kółeczka, albo przysuń slider. Ale jak chcesz tak zostawić, to nie ma sprawy.
01:56:726 (3, 4, 5, 6, 1) - Łaaale niepowtarzalny styl. ;)
02:25:019 - Na takie smutłaśnie momenty polecam ściszyć gdzieś 15-20%.
02:28:437 - To samo co w 02:25:019.
02:31:856 - To samo.
03:19:719 - Postaraj się usunąć w tym sliderze kółeczka za 10 pkt. Jak patrzysz na późniejsze slidery, to wygląda jakby nienaturalnie...
04:59:752 - Od razu po sliderze 90 stopni? Złagodź ten zakręt do 45 stopni przynajmniej.
08:21:103 (1, 2, 3, 4) - Zmniejsz dystans między kółkami.
08:21:455 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7) - Te slidery są brzydkie. Widać, że na koniec już ci sięnie chciało nic robić. :) Zrób coś z tym... Pomniejsz je... (czyli zmniejsz szybkość sliderów np. do x1.00) I żeby nie robiły wrażenia, że są porozwalane.
08:26:741 (1, 2, 3, 4) - Zmniejsz dystans między kółkami
08:27:093 (1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3) - To samo co w 08:21:455
08:32:379 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) - Zmniejsz dystans!

Dzięki, że mogłem pomóc, liczę na kudosu. :D
PS Storyboard powala!
Topic Starter
Exile-

The_Angry wrote:

Od razu mówię, że to mój pierwszy modding.

The World

00:41:161 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) - To troszeczkę głupio wygląda... Przestaw te kółka, by robiły takie "ćwierćkoło" (xD), bo to się tak jakby zlewa ze sliderem... No i głupio to trochę wygląda. Jeśli tak właśnie chcesz zrobić to nie ma sprawy. Wole sachowac liniowy pattern
01:12:260 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) - Również trochę głupio wygląda. Rozdziel troszkę te kółeczka, albo przysuń slider. Ale jak chcesz tak zostawić, to nie ma sprawy. Ten pattern nie sprawia nikomu wiekszych problemow w odczytaniu wiec nie ma potrzeby zmiany
01:56:726 (3, 4, 5, 6, 1) - Łaaale niepowtarzalny styl. ;)^_^
02:25:019 - Na takie smutłaśnie momenty polecam ściszyć gdzieś 15-20%.
02:28:437 - To samo co w 02:25:019.
02:31:856 - To samo. ^^^ Sciszone
03:19:719 - Postaraj się usunąć w tym sliderze kółeczka za 10 pkt. Jak patrzysz na późniejsze slidery, to wygląda jakby nienaturalnie... To raczej niewykonalne chyba ze masz jakis ciekawy pomysl
04:59:752 - Od razu po sliderze 90 stopni? Złagodź ten zakręt do 45 stopni przynajmniej. Zlagodzone
08:21:103 (1, 2, 3, 4) - Zmniejsz dystans między kółkami. Nie ma potrzeby, to stream na 170 BPM
08:21:455 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7) - Te slidery są brzydkie. Widać, że na koniec już ci sięnie chciało nic robić. :) Zrób coś z tym... Pomniejsz je... (czyli zmniejsz szybkość sliderów np. do x1.00) I żeby nie robiły wrażenia, że są porozwalane. To bylo celowe. Ten styl mial byc chaotyczny
08:26:741 (1, 2, 3, 4) - Zmniejsz dystans między kółkami ^^
08:27:093 (1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3) - To samo co w 08:21:455 To samo
08:32:379 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) - Zmniejsz dystans!^^

Dzięki, że mogłem pomóc, liczę na kudosu. :D
PS Storyboard powala!
Dzięki o/
Phob

Exile- wrote:

The_Angry wrote:

Od razu mówię, że to mój pierwszy modding.

The World

00:41:161 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) - To troszeczkę głupio wygląda... Przestaw te kółka, by robiły takie "ćwierćkoło" (xD), bo to się tak jakby zlewa ze sliderem... No i głupio to trochę wygląda. Jeśli tak właśnie chcesz zrobić to nie ma sprawy. Wole sachowac liniowy pattern
01:12:260 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) - Również trochę głupio wygląda. Rozdziel troszkę te kółeczka, albo przysuń slider. Ale jak chcesz tak zostawić, to nie ma sprawy. Ten pattern nie sprawia nikomu wiekszych problemow w odczytaniu wiec nie ma potrzeby zmiany
01:56:726 (3, 4, 5, 6, 1) - Łaaale niepowtarzalny styl. ;)^_^
02:25:019 - Na takie smutłaśnie momenty polecam ściszyć gdzieś 15-20%.
02:28:437 - To samo co w 02:25:019.
02:31:856 - To samo. ^^^ Sciszone
03:19:719 - Postaraj się usunąć w tym sliderze kółeczka za 10 pkt. Jak patrzysz na późniejsze slidery, to wygląda jakby nienaturalnie... To raczej niewykonalne chyba ze masz jakis ciekawy pomysl
04:59:752 - Od razu po sliderze 90 stopni? Złagodź ten zakręt do 45 stopni przynajmniej. Zlagodzone
08:21:103 (1, 2, 3, 4) - Zmniejsz dystans między kółkami. Nie ma potrzeby, to stream na 170 BPM
08:21:455 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7) - Te slidery są brzydkie. Widać, że na koniec już ci sięnie chciało nic robić. :) Zrób coś z tym... Pomniejsz je... (czyli zmniejsz szybkość sliderów np. do x1.00) I żeby nie robiły wrażenia, że są porozwalane. To bylo celowe. Ten styl mial byc chaotyczny
08:26:741 (1, 2, 3, 4) - Zmniejsz dystans między kółkami ^^
08:27:093 (1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3) - To samo co w 08:21:455 To samo
08:32:379 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) - Zmniejsz dystans!^^

Dzięki, że mogłem pomóc, liczę na kudosu. :D
PS Storyboard powala!
Dzięki o/
Tak mam pomysł na te małe kółeczka. Po prostu ustaw te mniejsze BPM przed sliderem ;)
ReFaller

The_Angry wrote:

Tak mam pomysł na te małe kółeczka. Po prostu ustaw te mniejsze BPM przed sliderem ;)
Ja mam lepszy pomysł.

03:19:719 (1) - weź to przesuń na czerwony timing i przeskaluj slider na tyle zeby trwał te 2 białe ticki. To wyjaśnia dlaczego są te "małe kółka".
Topic Starter
Exile-

ReFaller wrote:

The_Angry wrote:

Tak mam pomysł na te małe kółeczka. Po prostu ustaw te mniejsze BPM przed sliderem ;)
Ja mam lepszy pomysł.

03:19:719 (1) - weź to przesuń na czerwony timing i przeskaluj slider na tyle zeby trwał te 2 białe ticki. To wyjaśnia dlaczego są te "małe kółka".
This slider has actually made a small discussion with the guys from above. I don't want to change it as Im waiting for their final decision.
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ReFaller
JEZUS MARIA PISZ MI NORMALNIE :(

Nie było tematu XD

Nie czytałem ze tam jest na forum cośtam.
Spazza17
godlike mapppp
ReFaller
GODLIKE STREAK °1
byfar
Hey!

[The World]

[General]
[Misc]00:00:319 (1) - The ripple effect near the start does not seem to be in the correct position.
http://puu.sh/oIRBB/f912b1c43c.jpg
[Playability and Rhythms]
  1. 00:05:656 (1,2) - These two sliders should probably end at 00:06:655 - and 00:07:989 - since the sound in the music is held. Right now the 1/1 gap just seems a bit off.
  2. 00:15:660 (3,4) - ctrl+g is better
  3. 00:28:334 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - imo you should try to use some geometric shapes here like you did before. It'll look a lot nicer, and possibly play even better.
  4. 00:27:335 (2) - I think you should utilize slider leniency here by ctrl+g'ing 00:27:335 (2) - and 00:28:001 (4) -; It'll play better in my opinion
  5. 00:29:501 (8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - this part looks good and plays well. Try to get your other jump patterns to look more organized like this.
  6. 00:43:909 (2,1,2,1,2,1) - My suggestion for these kinds of patterns is 1) either you make all the slider heads in one line http://puu.sh/oITnS/bc04c7a464.jpg (to do this you need to create 2 circles, copy and paste them onto another spot on the timelime near the 2 circles and stack the (2) on (1) ) or 2) you make it zigzagged like http://puu.sh/oITzX/804da827ae.jpg
  7. Right now, the arrangement looks really funky and off.
  8. 01:02:993 (4,1) - Not sure why this jump is suddenly so small. Compare to the spacing of 01:01:894 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - The music's intensity hasn't lowered yet until AFTER the white tick over here 01:03:150 -. So it's logical to maintain similarly large spacing until then, right?
  9. 01:13:203 (3,4,5,1,1,2,3,4,1) - The music needs more emphasis over here, and your current flow is a bit off. Try: http://puu.sh/oIUnR/36e6fbca84.jpg ?
  10. 01:30:155 - 01:46:155 - I really liked this part. Alot. This is some REALLY top quality stuff, check out the aesthetics portion of this mod to make it even better.
  11. 01:48:440 (1,2) - 01:48:726 (3,4) - ctrl+g these individually? Plays better.
  12. 02:35:560 (2) - move a little to the right? http://puu.sh/oIUSQ/99d3061819.jpg
  13. 02:39:548 - this should be a circle, a strong beat should never be emphasized by a slider tail
  14. 02:40:118 - ^ http://puu.sh/oIUYT/5e68174d3d.jpg
  15. 02:44:677 (2,3,4) - try doing a 120 degree rotation for these kinds of sliders http://puu.sh/oIV30/0ed9808269.jpg
  16. 02:54:078 (3,4) - stack slider head of (3) onto slider head of (1)? you should move the (4) slider along with (3) http://puu.sh/oIXvC/36508cf384.jpg
  17. 03:09:463 (1) - Bring this down? http://puu.sh/oIVeW/32572278cc.jpg the flow is much better afterwards http://puu.sh/oIVh0/825c602c76.jpg
  18. 04:08:523 (1) - try some pattern like this? http://puu.sh/oIVt2/5c051bf87b.jpg
  19. 04:14:198 (1,2) 04:14:482 (3,4) - - ctrl+ g each 2 circles individually please, plays better. just ctrl+j these 04:14:765 (5,6) - and rotate it a bit to the right using ctrl+shift+r
  20. 04:18:170 (3) - ctrl+g?
  21. 05:04:367 (1) - move to the right, better flow http://puu.sh/oIW7d/974ae32b54.jpg
  22. 05:19:137 - there should be a circle here. try making a triangle with the heads :ohttp://puu.sh/oIWc5/c6989988eb.jpg
  23. 05:29:867 (4,5,6) - http://puu.sh/oIWgh/2fe90caa85.jpg try this, it flows and looks better.
  24. 05:49:368 - stack a circle here, this feels empty
  25. 07:08:594 - 07:47:664 - nice
  26. 08:13:703 (1,2,3,4) - try and make 08:13:703 (1) - have more impact by turning it to something like this http://puu.sh/oIWMv/40d13b1535.jpg
  27. 07:58:903 - 08:32:819 - very impressive
[Aesthetics]00:00:319 (1) - This wave slider looks a bit off. It seems like you ctrl+g'ed it before and the anchors started turning into the old 2011 anchors :o
notice the 'V-ish' shape of this http://puu.sh/oIRMW/dcda280b55.jpg
00:14:993 (1,2,3,4) -
http://puu.sh/oIS2t/71468b082f.jpg I know this is a little bit nit-picky, but this information is the basis of ALL clean and organized mapping. If you want a pattern to say.. look more "Professional" and "Neat", you must equalize the visual distance between the objects
Look at the approach circle on the (2) slider and notice how it caves into (3) more than (1). What the approach circle SHOULD look like is this http://puu.sh/oITg7/fea4c20c3e.jpg
I'm going to give you an example from one of Skystar's dubstep maps and WHAT exactly makes it look so neat.
http://puu.sh/oISjv/f912233253.jpg Just look at how meticulously similar the visual distance is in this photo.
You don't exactly have to do this for everything, but when the sliders are super close together, this technique should be executed to ensure MAXIMUM cleanliness.
It may seem like extra work, but trust me; it'll make your slider and circle visual organization A LOT more neater. This is how Monstrata (his grid mapping ensures the same visual distance) and Skystar structure their maps so well
00:15:660 (3,4,1) - this part is good, notice how they are equally spaced out due to the 1.2x DS. 00:20:330 (1,2,3,4) - sliders may be a little toooo close together. ctrl+shift+s to enlarge it a little bit?00:34:878 (1,3,1) - overlaps should be neater. Remember to keep the visual distance the same for these really close objects.00:40:375 (4,1,2,3,4,1) - - visual distance00:41:396 (2,3,4,5) - this rotated 90 degrees and ctrl+h'ed would look much nicer. Although the spacing may be a little too large afterwards, you can adjust it later.00:44:616 (1) - don't use so many anchor points for small sliders, it looks really bad.00:49:642 (4,5) - the circle is too close to the square. leave some breathing room for the circles by increasing the spacing of this square? 00:49:957 (1,2,3,4) - 00:55:297 (1,2) - making the slider head of (2) follow the curvature shape of slider (1) will look much nicer http://puu.sh/oITEx/a00a74a4a8.jpg00:57:496 (1,2) - this looks a bit unappealing to me.. make the angle of the slider smaller? http://puu.sh/oITJg/21749a2e92.jpg00:58:752 (1) - doesn't seem perfectly symmetrical01:00:951 (1) - the part near the slider tail seems too short compared to the rest of the slider. get rid of a red tick? http://puu.sh/oITR5/44c6bcad33.jpg01:03:464 (2) - wave is kind of weak01:08:805 (1,2,3,4) - visual spacing01:11:318 (1,2,3) - nice01:03:150 (1,2,3) - not a fan of these partial overlaps, either make the overlap REALLY LARGE and noticeable http://puu.sh/oIU8j/471cb05aa6.jpg, or just space it out http://puu.sh/oIU6v/f575c8cc2e.jpg01:14:459 (1,1,1) - these partial overlaps. I really liked these, 01:15:402 (1,1,1) - but make sure the visual distance between the slider ends and of the next slider head is similar.01:30:155 - I really liked this part, but make sure you watch for visual spacing though, such as areas like: 01:35:869 (1,2,3,4) - 01:40:012 (3,4,1,2,3) - (too close compared to your other patterns)01:32:440 (1) - wave slider could be a bit better imo.01:48:583 (2,4,5) - visual distance02:02:440 (2,4) - not a perfect blanket02:03:297 (1,2,3,4) - visual distance02:17:012 (1,2,3) - visual distance, imo should organize the slider tails02:58:067 (1,2) - ^03:05:047 (2,4) - wayy to close03:05:902 (6,1,2) - move (6) a bit to the left? http://puu.sh/oIVc1/a3f1349fd9.jpg03:10:032 (4,5) - I'd overlap the sliders like this. when the head and tail aren't touched, it becomes cleaner http://puu.sh/oIVhU/af9f4016ca.jpg
also, the wave slider can be better 04:05:118 (1,2,3,4) - this can be arranged a bit more neatly 04:09:374 (4,3) - the touch :(04:10:793 (1,2,3,4) - visual distance, and the red anchor can be centered a bit more04:11:928 (1,2,3,4) - the slider tail's visual distance04:13:914 (4) - move this upward a bit, so it follows the followprint? http://puu.sh/oIVym/f14b2b5e77.jpg04:14:765 (5,6) - these kinds of overlaps are alright, you should utilize these kinds more.04:23:278 (1,2,3,4) - visual distance between 2 and 4!!!!!!!!04:30:372 (2,4) - overlap can be more neater. 04:30:372 (2) - stack slider tail onto (4)'s tail? http://puu.sh/oIVL7/2c96c57cee.jpg04:33:197 (4) - can be more perfect, right now the part near the tail is a bit too short compared to the part near the slider head http://puu.sh/oIVMl/a22eb2e5e7.jpg04:42:810 (3,5) - this is a good overlap. 04:42:810 (3) - can benefit from being moved 2 pixels or so to x:198 y:328 since the tail is slightly too close to the slider border of (5)04:47:758 (9) - slider node near the slider tail can be centered for a better looking curve http://puu.sh/oIVSm/95b930a498.jpg04:57:906 (1,2,3,4) - stream is tilted a bit too upwards. 04:57:906 (1) - red node can either be more centered, or make the angle right now smaller http://puu.sh/oIVYN/ddc892e7c0.jpg05:00:675 (1,2,3) - 120 degree rotation slider pattern can be organized more neatly. delete your (3) http://puu.sh/oIW2c/fc263e1ebe.jpg , copy and paste it http://puu.sh/oIW3w/39b1d91d18.jpg rotate 120 degrees http://puu.sh/oIW4I/009a7eb9fd.jpg BOOM. I mean you COULD technically use a polygon creator but tbh, it takes too much time imo. This method is much faster05:23:406 (5,6,7,8) - try making a pentagon by using the same technique and rotating it 72 degrees05:40:367 (1,2,3,4) - ahhhhhhhhhh touching06:25:669 (3) - kind of ugly, try centering the red anchor 06:26:512 (1,2) - move (2) a bit to the left please :0 http://puu.sh/oIWqh/1928f122af.jpg not aligned perfectly06:29:208 (1,2) - blanket06:29:883 (1,2) - too close!! do it like how you did it before pls, http://puu.sh/oIWB7/42a5f6eb39.jpg 06:29:883 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/oIWuk/57481a6255.jpg :p06:40:669 (1,2) - ^06:43:858 (1,2) - 2 is too close06:46:317 (6,1) - ^06:49:104 (1,2) - pls, the touch06:51:727 (1,2) -06:52:383 (1,2) - 07:09:292 (3,4,5,6) - perfect square pls07:10:687 (3,4,5,6,1)- do a more perfect triangle and watch the visual spacing07:18:013 (4) - slider tail seems a bit far compared to the rest07:51:850 (1) - center the anchor, the curve will look nicer http://puu.sh/oIWJp/bba9b1c8b8.jpg07:54:665 (1,1) - try blanketing the slider approach circle http://puu.sh/oIWJX/dfa6a12309.jpg
[Refaller's Hard]
  1. 00:37:391 (1) - was this unstack unintentional?
  2. 01:35:869 (1,2,3) - 3 and the (2) slider is too close. space out slightly please
  3. 01:38:440 (4) - not a perfect wave slider, try: http://puu.sh/oIX8N/346b6a6f3d.jpg
  4. 02:40:403 (2,3,1) - bring (3) more closer to the (1) slider, it'll look neater. notice the approach circle of (3) and how it's equally touching (1) and (2) http://puu.sh/oIXcR/21af263be1.jpg
  5. 02:54:078 (2) - curve this too? it may compliment 02:54:648 (1) - this better
  6. 06:38:647 (1,2) - i'd prefer if you changed (2) somehow to blanket the (1) slider by moving (2) to x:195 y:227 like this http://puu.sh/oIXlm/91d2cb241a.jpg
  7. 06:42:692 -06:53:202 - very good

Good luck!~
ReFaller

byfar wrote:

Hey! Siema byku.

[Refaller's Hard]
  1. 00:37:391 (1) - was this unstack unintentional? XD, right.
  2. 01:35:869 (1,2,3) - 3 and the (2) slider is too close. space out slightly please i had to use 1,22 DS, but it successed
  3. 01:38:440 (4) - not a perfect wave slider, try: http://puu.sh/oIX8N/346b6a6f3d.jpg hmm, i don't see any serious differences, wave doesn't have any blanket functions, so i will keep to not touching it
  4. 02:40:403 (2,3,1) - bring (3) more closer to the (1) slider, it'll look neater. notice the approach circle of (3) and how it's equally touching (1) and (2) http://puu.sh/oIXcR/21af263be1.jpg this time, i didn't use grid snap so fixing it was easier to done
  5. 02:54:078 (2) - curve this too? it may compliment 02:54:648 (1) - this better curved, additionally i equaled the spacing between curved slider
  6. 06:38:647 (1,2) - i'd prefer if you changed (2) somehow to blanket the (1) slider by moving (2) to x:195 y:227 like this http://puu.sh/oIXlm/91d2cb241a.jpg i had to fix not to your mind, because you didn't include the spacing with next circle
  7. 06:42:692 -06:53:202 - very good if it's a praise, then thanks

Good luck!~
I'm wondering about difference in the amount of issues between our diffs.

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Exile-

byfar wrote:

Hey!

[The World]

[General]
[Misc]00:00:319 (1) - The ripple effect near the start does not seem to be in the correct position. These are shifted in the editor!!!
http://puu.sh/oIRBB/f912b1c43c.jpg
[Playability and Rhythms]
  1. 00:05:656 (1,2) - These two sliders should probably end at 00:06:655 - and 00:07:989 - since the sound in the music is held. Right now the 1/1 gap just seems a bit off.
  2. 00:15:660 (3,4) - ctrl+g is better
  3. 00:28:334 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - imo you should try to use some geometric shapes here like you did before. It'll look a lot nicer, and possibly play even better.
  4. 00:27:335 (2) - I think you should utilize slider leniency here by ctrl+g'ing 00:27:335 (2) - and 00:28:001 (4) -; It'll play better in my opinion
  5. 00:29:501 (8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - this part looks good and plays well. Try to get your other jump patterns to look more organized like this.
  6. 00:43:909 (2,1,2,1,2,1) - My suggestion for these kinds of patterns is 1) either you make all the slider heads in one line http://puu.sh/oITnS/bc04c7a464.jpg (to do this you need to create 2 circles, copy and paste them onto another spot on the timelime near the 2 circles and stack the (2) on (1) ) or 2) you make it zigzagged like http://puu.sh/oITzX/804da827ae.jpg
  7. Right now, the arrangement looks really funky and off.
  8. 01:02:993 (4,1) - Not sure why this jump is suddenly so small. Compare to the spacing of 01:01:894 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - The music's intensity hasn't lowered yet until AFTER the white tick over here 01:03:150 -. So it's logical to maintain similarly large spacing until then, right?
  9. 01:13:203 (3,4,5,1,1,2,3,4,1) - The music needs more emphasis over here, and your current flow is a bit off. Try: http://puu.sh/oIUnR/36e6fbca84.jpg ?
  10. 01:30:155 - 01:46:155 - I really liked this part. Alot. This is some REALLY top quality stuff, check out the aesthetics portion of this mod to make it even better.
  11. 01:48:440 (1,2) - 01:48:726 (3,4) - ctrl+g these individually? Plays better.
  12. 02:35:560 (2) - move a little to the right? http://puu.sh/oIUSQ/99d3061819.jpg
  13. 02:39:548 - this should be a circle, a strong beat should never be emphasized by a slider tail
  14. 02:40:118 - ^ http://puu.sh/oIUYT/5e68174d3d.jpg
  15. 02:44:677 (2,3,4) - try doing a 120 degree rotation for these kinds of sliders http://puu.sh/oIV30/0ed9808269.jpg
  16. 02:54:078 (3,4) - stack slider head of (3) onto slider head of (1)? you should move the (4) slider along with (3) http://puu.sh/oIXvC/36508cf384.jpg
  17. 03:09:463 (1) - Bring this down? http://puu.sh/oIVeW/32572278cc.jpg the flow is much better afterwards http://puu.sh/oIVh0/825c602c76.jpg
  18. 04:08:523 (1) - try some pattern like this? http://puu.sh/oIVt2/5c051bf87b.jpg
  19. 04:14:198 (1,2) 04:14:482 (3,4) - - ctrl+ g each 2 circles individually please, plays better. just ctrl+j these 04:14:765 (5,6) - and rotate it a bit to the right using ctrl+shift+r
  20. 04:18:170 (3) - ctrl+g?
  21. 05:04:367 (1) - move to the right, better flow http://puu.sh/oIW7d/974ae32b54.jpg
  22. 05:19:137 - there should be a circle here. try making a triangle with the heads :ohttp://puu.sh/oIWc5/c6989988eb.jpg
  23. 05:29:867 (4,5,6) - http://puu.sh/oIWgh/2fe90caa85.jpg try this, it flows and looks better.
  24. 05:49:368 - stack a circle here, this feels empty I want to follow the vocal here so there is no note
  25. 07:08:594 - 07:47:664 - nice
  26. 08:13:703 (1,2,3,4) - try and make 08:13:703 (1) - have more impact by turning it to something like this http://puu.sh/oIWMv/40d13b1535.jpg
  27. 07:58:903 - 08:32:819 - very impressive
[Aesthetics]00:00:319 (1) - This wave slider looks a bit off. It seems like you ctrl+g'ed it before and the anchors started turning into the old 2011 anchors :o
notice the 'V-ish' shape of this http://puu.sh/oIRMW/dcda280b55.jpg
00:14:993 (1,2,3,4) -
http://puu.sh/oIS2t/71468b082f.jpg I know this is a little bit nit-picky, but this information is the basis of ALL clean and organized mapping. If you want a pattern to say.. look more "Professional" and "Neat", you must equalize the visual distance between the objects
Look at the approach circle on the (2) slider and notice how it caves into (3) more than (1). What the approach circle SHOULD look like is this http://puu.sh/oITg7/fea4c20c3e.jpg
I'm going to give you an example from one of Skystar's dubstep maps and WHAT exactly makes it look so neat.
http://puu.sh/oISjv/f912233253.jpg Just look at how meticulously similar the visual distance is in this photo.
You don't exactly have to do this for everything, but when the sliders are super close together, this technique should be executed to ensure MAXIMUM cleanliness.
It may seem like extra work, but trust me; it'll make your slider and circle visual organization A LOT more neater. This is how Monstrata (his grid mapping ensures the same visual distance) and Skystar structure their maps so well
00:15:660 (3,4,1) - this part is good, notice how they are equally spaced out due to the 1.2x DS. 00:20:330 (1,2,3,4) - sliders may be a little toooo close together. ctrl+shift+s to enlarge it a little bit?00:34:878 (1,3,1) - overlaps should be neater. Remember to keep the visual distance the same for these really close objects.00:40:375 (4,1,2,3,4,1) - - visual distance00:41:396 (2,3,4,5) - this rotated 90 degrees and ctrl+h'ed would look much nicer. Although the spacing may be a little too large afterwards, you can adjust it later.00:44:616 (1) - don't use so many anchor points for small sliders, it looks really bad.00:49:642 (4,5) - the circle is too close to the square. leave some breathing room for the circles by increasing the spacing of this square? 00:49:957 (1,2,3,4) - 00:55:297 (1,2) - making the slider head of (2) follow the curvature shape of slider (1) will look much nicer http://puu.sh/oITEx/a00a74a4a8.jpg00:57:496 (1,2) - this looks a bit unappealing to me.. make the angle of the slider smaller? http://puu.sh/oITJg/21749a2e92.jpg00:58:752 (1) - doesn't seem perfectly symmetrical01:00:951 (1) - the part near the slider tail seems too short compared to the rest of the slider. get rid of a red tick? http://puu.sh/oITR5/44c6bcad33.jpg01:03:464 (2) - wave is kind of weak01:08:805 (1,2,3,4) - visual spacing01:11:318 (1,2,3) - nice01:03:150 (1,2,3) - not a fan of these partial overlaps, either make the overlap REALLY LARGE and noticeable http://puu.sh/oIU8j/471cb05aa6.jpg, or just space it out http://puu.sh/oIU6v/f575c8cc2e.jpg01:14:459 (1,1,1) - these partial overlaps. I really liked these, 01:15:402 (1,1,1) - but make sure the visual distance between the slider ends and of the next slider head is similar.01:30:155 - I really liked this part, but make sure you watch for visual spacing though, such as areas like: 01:35:869 (1,2,3,4) - 01:40:012 (3,4,1,2,3) - (too close compared to your other patterns)01:32:440 (1) - wave slider could be a bit better imo.01:48:583 (2,4,5) - visual distance02:02:440 (2,4) - not a perfect blanket02:03:297 (1,2,3,4) - visual distance02:17:012 (1,2,3) - visual distance, imo should organize the slider tails02:58:067 (1,2) - ^03:05:047 (2,4) - wayy to close03:05:902 (6,1,2) - move (6) a bit to the left? http://puu.sh/oIVc1/a3f1349fd9.jpg03:10:032 (4,5) - I'd overlap the sliders like this. when the head and tail aren't touched, it becomes cleaner http://puu.sh/oIVhU/af9f4016ca.jpg
also, the wave slider can be better 04:05:118 (1,2,3,4) - this can be arranged a bit more neatly 04:09:374 (4,3) - the touch :(04:10:793 (1,2,3,4) - visual distance, and the red anchor can be centered a bit more04:11:928 (1,2,3,4) - the slider tail's visual distance04:13:914 (4) - move this upward a bit, so it follows the followprint? http://puu.sh/oIVym/f14b2b5e77.jpg04:14:765 (5,6) - these kinds of overlaps are alright, you should utilize these kinds more.04:23:278 (1,2,3,4) - visual distance between 2 and 4!!!!!!!!04:30:372 (2,4) - overlap can be more neater. 04:30:372 (2) - stack slider tail onto (4)'s tail? http://puu.sh/oIVL7/2c96c57cee.jpg04:33:197 (4) - can be more perfect, right now the part near the tail is a bit too short compared to the part near the slider head http://puu.sh/oIVMl/a22eb2e5e7.jpg04:42:810 (3,5) - this is a good overlap. 04:42:810 (3) - can benefit from being moved 2 pixels or so to x:198 y:328 since the tail is slightly too close to the slider border of (5)04:47:758 (9) - slider node near the slider tail can be centered for a better looking curve http://puu.sh/oIVSm/95b930a498.jpg04:57:906 (1,2,3,4) - stream is tilted a bit too upwards. 04:57:906 (1) - red node can either be more centered, or make the angle right now smaller http://puu.sh/oIVYN/ddc892e7c0.jpg05:00:675 (1,2,3) - 120 degree rotation slider pattern can be organized more neatly. delete your (3) http://puu.sh/oIW2c/fc263e1ebe.jpg , copy and paste it http://puu.sh/oIW3w/39b1d91d18.jpg rotate 120 degrees http://puu.sh/oIW4I/009a7eb9fd.jpg BOOM. I mean you COULD technically use a polygon creator but tbh, it takes too much time imo. This method is much faster05:23:406 (5,6,7,8) - try making a pentagon by using the same technique and rotating it 72 degrees05:40:367 (1,2,3,4) - ahhhhhhhhhh touching06:25:669 (3) - kind of ugly, try centering the red anchor 06:26:512 (1,2) - move (2) a bit to the left please :0 http://puu.sh/oIWqh/1928f122af.jpg not aligned perfectly06:29:208 (1,2) - blanket06:29:883 (1,2) - too close!! do it like how you did it before pls, http://puu.sh/oIWB7/42a5f6eb39.jpg 06:29:883 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/oIWuk/57481a6255.jpg :p Are you sure its a good link?06:40:669 (1,2) - ^06:43:858 (1,2) - 2 is too close06:46:317 (6,1) - ^06:49:104 (1,2) - pls, the touch06:51:727 (1,2) -06:52:383 (1,2) - 07:09:292 (3,4,5,6) - perfect square pls07:10:687 (3,4,5,6,1)- do a more perfect triangle and watch the visual spacing07:18:013 (4) - slider tail seems a bit far compared to the rest07:51:850 (1) - center the anchor, the curve will look nicer http://puu.sh/oIWJp/bba9b1c8b8.jpg07:54:665 (1,1) - try blanketing the slider approach circle http://puu.sh/oIWJX/dfa6a12309.jpg

Good luck!~
Thanks!

Not mentioned = fixed
Skystar
18:34 *Skystar is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/869704 MrSpazzaneve17 - osu! MEGAMIX [The World]]
18:35 Skystar: 00:00:319 (1) -
18:35 Exile-: oh yeah, first note
18:35 Exile-: gonna be tough
18:35 Exile-: :D
18:35 Skystar: http://puu.sh/oZJZJ/79bdf7fb19.jpg
18:36 Skystar: well probably my preference here but when i make wave sliders i usually make it like that lol
18:36 Exile-: You know
18:36 Exile-: I saw one thread
18:36 Exile-: Where there was a list of different wave slider styles
18:36 Exile-: ANd there was yours ;D
18:36 Skystar: haha that wav slider thread
18:37 Exile-: yup ^_^
18:37 Skystar: 00:29:668 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
18:38 Skystar: idk but you could just copypaste 00:28:334 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - and ctrl+g to make it a symmetrical pattern with each other it would be way coller
18:38 Skystar: cooler*
18:38 Skystar: for now it seems like they don't have connections with each other
18:39 Exile-: Okay, I'll try to
18:39 Skystar: 00:33:337 (5,6) - starting a 1/4 slider on blue tick is actually pretty weird
18:40 Exile-: I know
18:40 Exile-: This pattern had a lot of reworks
18:41 Exile-: Idk how to make it correct
18:41 Skystar: start it on (5)
18:41 Skystar: and make a repeat
18:41 Skystar: http://puu.sh/oZKbb/74db1349f8.jpg
18:42 Exile-: ooh
18:42 Skystar: 00:35:506 (1) - this could be converted into two jumps imo
18:42 Skystar: to follow the sounds
18:43 Exile-: sure
18:45 Skystar: 00:58:124 (3,4) - another personal preference here, but when you make curved sliders that are in a same combo, it'd look nicer to curve them in a similar angle, like http://puu.sh/oZKj1/2c5a317d9e.jpg
18:45 Skystar: (you can just copypaste 3 and rotate actually)
18:46 Exile-: right
18:46 Exile-: got it
18:48 Skystar: 02:06:726 (1,2) - same here, but in this case i'd suggest making the 1 less curved
18:49 Skystar: http://puu.sh/oZKrl/6348ed3f9d.jpg
18:50 Exile-: Sure :D
18:50 Exile-: By the way
18:50 Skystar: 02:39:548 (6,7,8) - hey you can avoid the overlap pretty easily by moving it up to around 477 111!
18:50 Exile-: http://puu.sh/oZKtw/875d3454df.jpg for 00:35:506 (1) - looks correct?
18:51 Skystar: ah no
18:51 Skystar: i'd suggest placing 2 a lot further, like
18:52 Skystar: http://puu.sh/oZKxb/5d56ecb818.jpg
18:52 Exile-: oh okay
18:52 Skystar: flow here goes back and forth xD
18:52 Exile-: Fixed all :D
18:53 Skystar: 02:54:078 (3) - not sure but BN/QAT might complain about it being not NC'd so maybe add a NC
18:54 Exile-: suure
18:54 Exile-: A lot of people really want to place a NC here
18:54 Exile-: but on the other hand Bonsai told about this NC consistency and stuff
18:54 Skystar: but if you add a NC for that, for the sake of consistency you might want to add NC for all the 'expo expo' patterns too lol
18:54 Skystar: like 02:58:637 (3) -
18:54 Skystar: yeah
18:55 Exile-: okay
18:55 Exile-: Lets do that
18:56 Skystar: 03:10:317 (5) - pls improve this wave slider too!
18:56 Skystar: http://puu.sh/oZKHk/e5eaafbabb.jpg
18:56 Exile-: sure
19:00 Skystar: 05:38:982 (1) - minor, blanket is a bit off
19:00 Skystar: http://puu.sh/oZKRt/85032218d1.jpg
19:01 Exile-: oh, you're right
19:02 Skystar: 07:14:176 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this is what i meant by symmetrical patterns that have connections with each other :D
19:02 Skystar: pretty cool
19:03 Exile-: Thanks :D
19:04 Skystar: ok, visuality part ends here
19:04 Skystar: let me test it for once for playability stuff
19:05 Exile-: Cant spec x)
19:06 Skystar: x) np
19:11 Skystar: wow
19:11 Skystar: gangsta part ends and still holding an FC
19:11 Skystar: let's see
19:12 Exile-: wow
19:12 Exile-: NIce :D
19:14 Skystar: rip genryuu kaiko final boss
19:14 Skystar: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5203381
19:14 Exile-: Well
19:14 Skystar: played fine mostly
19:14 Exile-: Either you love it
19:14 Exile-: Or hate it :D
19:14 Skystar: the only weird pattern i noticed during the play would be
19:14 Skystar: 04:06:253 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - these stacks
19:15 Skystar: considering how music here goes crazy
19:15 Exile-: hmm
19:15 Exile-: Restack them, change position?
19:15 Exile-: I mean unstack
19:15 Skystar: well just
19:16 Skystar: rearrange as jumps i guess
19:16 Skystar: 04:24:413 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - same here
19:16 Exile-: 04:09:658 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - something like this?
19:16 Skystar: doesn't have to be big jumps, just small jumps would be enough
19:16 Skystar: yeah
19:17 Exile-: Sure!
19:18 Skystar: okay, guess that's all
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