Wada Kouji - The Biggest Dreamer (TV Size) · forum

Shad0w1and

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Shad0w1and 2015-12-31T02:03:26+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2016年6月27日 at 3:44:51

Artist: Wada Kouji
Title: The Biggest Dreamer (TV Size)
Source: デジモンテイマーズ
Tags: Digimon Tamers Kencho m1223961117 DreaM117er Gero XinCrin
BPM: 100
Filesize: 25898kb
Play Time: 01:29
Difficulties Available:

117's Hard (2.94 stars, 211 notes)
Bigger than bigger (4.87 stars, 327 notes)
Gero's Normal (1.98 stars, 122 notes)
Kencho's Insane (3.7 stars, 275 notes)
Xin's Easy (1.48 stars, 78 notes)

Download: Wada Kouji - The Biggest Dreamer (TV Size)
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Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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#12 和田光司 - The Biggest Dreamer
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デジモンテイマーズ
Anime OP Theme | 2002

No PP and Not For DT. God Damn my old mapping style.-.
In memory of Wada Kouji -和田光司- and my childhood.

Bigger than bigger: me |

Insane: Kencho

Hard: The Biggest DreaM117er |

Normal: Gero |

Easy: XinCrin
Timing by Bonsai
===============
中文译名：
最有逼格的梦想家
crf=22

比逼格更有逼格，最有逼格的梦想家

Last edited by Shad0w1and 2017-05-19T14:56:55+00:00, edited 80 times in total.

Misure

951 posts

Joined September 2012

Misure 2015-12-31T16:14:01+00:00

First!

IRC大概

23:30 Shad0w1and: 能不能求试图;w;
23:30 Misure: e
23:30 *Shad0w1and is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/867157 Wada Kouji - The Biggest Dreamer]
23:30 Shad0w1and: 只做了一半
23:31 Shad0w1and: 但是复制完节奏了
23:31 Misure: 网络不太行还是 等我5分钟差不多能下好
23:32 Shad0w1and: 噗好
23:34 Misure: ·下好了;w;
23:34 Shad0w1and: 好
23:35 Shad0w1and: 不能dt的
23:35 Misure: 这个BPM 这个星。大跳？？
23:35 Shad0w1and: 有201bpmstream
23:35 Shad0w1and: 1/6
23:35 Misure: 噗看星数就不能dt啊
23:37 Misure: 连打全都没读出来Orz
23:37 Shad0w1and: rep断成狗
23:37 Misure: 感觉ar有点高 并不合适
23:37 Shad0w1and: 1/6混1/4
23:37 Misure: （确实断成狗了
23:39 Shad0w1and: 有些地方直接卡
23:39 Shad0w1and: 你改ar9试试
23:39 Shad0w1and: 改了看看能读么;w;
23:39 Shad0w1and: 主要是梗能看么
23:39 Shad0w1and: 第一次试这种extra排列
23:39 Misure: 啊 flow倒是挺好
23:39 Misure: 还是6分拍子 读不出来 感觉确实不好读
23:41 Misure: 感觉9或者9.2就好
23:41 Shad0w1and: 好
23:41 Misure: 那俩六分拍连打 还是感觉出来得太突然 除非背梗不然我感觉会相当难打
23:42 Shad0w1and: 嗯我思考一下
23:43 Misure: 其实第一个那个三分拍跳初见也挺坑 但是打过一遍基本就不怕了 所以我感觉也没问题挺好的
23:44 Shad0w1and: 这曲子有点怪，134混1/6就是201bpm
23:44 Shad0w1and: 一般人估计被坑出翔
23:46 Misure: 嗯...
23:46 Misure: 其实 
23:46 Misure: 你把它们分开不stack反而会比较好读
23:47 Misure: 个人认为.
23:47 Shad0w1and: 嗯，我也在想这个问题，读好读一些，但是难度其实提升了
23:47 Shad0w1and: 特别接大跳，所以我在纠结
23:48 Shad0w1and: 算了我试试排开
23:48 Misure: 要不一串最后三个改个折返？
23:49 Shad0w1and: 试试
23:50 Misure: 啊另外六分连打离前面的note稍微近点也能好读
23:52 Shad0w1and: 一天重启20次osu
23:52 Shad0w1and: 辣鸡屁屁歪
23:52 Misure: 。
23:52 Misure: 有时要刷图 比较烦
23:52 Shad0w1and: 再试试？
23:52 Shad0w1and: 改了1/6
23:52 Misure: 啊等一下
23:53 Misure: 我发现有个有意思的排列 传图传不上去
23:53 Shad0w1and: 嗯好，或者qq试试
23:56 Shad0w1and: 总之我先改了一点
23:58 Misure: 诶第一个4连6分拍特别舒服
23:58 Misure: 第二个虽然我是连上了 但是其实感觉没读懂 下意识一甩
23:58 Shad0w1and: 好些？
23:58 Misure: 顺便务必9.2 嗯
23:59 Shad0w1and: 好9.2
23:59 Misure: 00:53:871 (1,2,3,4) - 感觉这个往右上甩
23:59 Shad0w1and: （其实可以当水了半个馍呢
23:59 Misure: 会好点
23:59 Misure: 呃
00:00 Misure: 00:54:319 (1,2,3,4,1,1,2) - 这个
00:01 Misure: 00:55:214 - 这一拍
00:01 Shad0w1and: 节奏感觉靠着曲子第二次自然能连上大概
00:02 Misure: 嗯第二次肯定是没问题
00:02 Misure: 但是这个拍子吧 怎么说呢
00:02 Misure: 感觉还是应该换个地方
00:03 Shad0w1and: 之后再慢慢考虑了;w;
00:05 Shad0w1and: 这曲子是我的童年，比butterfly还有爱
00:05 Misure: 啊刚出去找灯了..
00:05 Misure: ;w;
00:05 Misure: 啊这个地方还是有点想说一下
00:06 Misure: 00:54:543 (3,4) - ctrl+G00:54:879 (1) - 448|120 00:55:102 (1) - 488|104 我觉得可以试试这样
00:07 Misure: 顺便我这边2016年了 新年快乐啊;w;
00:07 Shad0w1and: 新年快乐
00:07 Shad0w1and: 啊真的
00:08 Shad0w1and: 我觉得差不多暂时就这样不错了
00:08 Shad0w1and: 这图我就是学的nasya
00:08 Misure: 嗯
00:09 Shad0w1and: 毕竟半个日本流还是好学
00:09 Misure: 你再找一些rank比较高的选手 看看他们怎么说;w;
00:10 Shad0w1and: 好好:3

Winnie

1,343 posts

Joined November 2013

Winnie 2016-01-02T03:49:35+00:00

Kudos because I modded already

Shad0w1and

1,588 posts

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Shad0w1and 2016-01-02T06:27:50+00:00

Kocari wrote:
Kudos because I modded already

ok;w;

log

2015-12-31 15:00 Shad0w1and: hi koka ;w;
2015-12-31 15:01 Kocari: hey
2015-12-31 15:01 Shad0w1and: do you got a moment can help me with a test play?
2015-12-31 15:01 Shad0w1and: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/867157 Wada Kouji - The Biggest Dreamer]
2015-12-31 15:01 Kocari: ok
2015-12-31 15:01 Shad0w1and: tv size
2015-12-31 15:01 Shad0w1and: ^ ^
2015-12-31 15:02 Kocari: oh man digimon tamers
2015-12-31 15:04 Shad0w1and: my first try of extra mapping
2015-12-31 15:04 Kocari: 1/8
2015-12-31 15:04 Shad0w1and: 1/6
2015-12-31 15:04 Shad0w1and: no 1/8
2015-12-31 15:04 Kocari: really?
2015-12-31 15:04 Kocari: it's 1/8
2015-12-31 15:05 Shad0w1and: just some vocal is 1/8 i guess?
2015-12-31 15:05 Kocari: 1/12 singles 00:24:916 (2,3) -
2015-12-31 15:06 Shad0w1and: nah but it fits i guess?
2015-12-31 15:06 Kocari: This visually is hard to play sight read 00:46:707 (7,1,2,3) -
2015-12-31 15:08 Kocari: This is crazy 00:54:319 (1,2,3,4) -
2015-12-31 15:09 Shad0w1and: yeah i know;w; just consider the music here
2015-12-31 15:09 Shad0w1and: its actually the most strong part of the song
2015-12-31 15:10 Kocari: I agree with you
2015-12-31 15:10 Kocari: but if we are considering the music
2015-12-31 15:10 Kocari: those four notes should be same distance
2015-12-31 15:11 Kocari: I feel this is where people will break 100% of the time
2015-12-31 15:12 Shad0w1and: yeah
2015-12-31 15:12 Kocari: especially the burst of the 1/12 back into 1/8
2015-12-31 15:12 Shad0w1and: 00:54:095 (4) - thats y i tried make this simpler
2015-12-31 15:14 Kocari: Ima go ask a QAT
2015-12-31 15:14 Kocari: someone I've never once talke dto before
2015-12-31 15:14 Kocari: EVER
2015-12-31 15:14 Kocari: fucking yolo this shit
2015-12-31 15:15 Shad0w1and: lol
2015-12-31 15:15 Shad0w1and: maybe one more try?
2015-12-31 15:15 Kocari: let me see if this is np
2015-12-31 15:15 Kocari: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/867157 Wada Kouji - The Biggest Dreamer [Extra]]
2015-12-31 15:15 Kocari: k
2015-12-31 15:17 Shad0w1and: yeah that 1/4 is really hard
2015-12-31 15:17 Shad0w1and: but so exciting lol
2015-12-31 15:18 Kocari: Ok I asked him
2015-12-31 15:18 Kocari: I can care less, everyone is a human being
2015-12-31 15:19 Kocari: After watching concussion
2015-12-31 15:19 Kocari: I've been inspired as fuck
2015-12-31 15:19 Kocari: it's unbelivably one of the greatest movies I have ever seen
2015-12-31 15:20 Kocari: welp
2015-12-31 15:20 Shad0w1and: a movie?
2015-12-31 15:20 Kocari: He'll reply sooner or later
2015-12-31 15:20 Kocari: yea
2015-12-31 15:21 Kocari: I think he weants me to test it first
2015-12-31 15:21 Kocari: you can come spectarte me
2015-12-31 15:22 Shad0w1and: you did it!
2015-12-31 15:23 Kocari: but my UR is 218
2015-12-31 15:23 Kocari: which is really bad
2015-12-31 15:27 Shad0w1and: my another friend actually tested it, and got passed that 1/4 jump at second try
2015-12-31 15:27 Shad0w1and: https://osu.ppy.sh/u/1949710
2015-12-31 15:51 Shad0w1and: nah;w; i am going afk soon, what did bakari say ;w;
2015-12-31 16:13 Kocari: lots
2015-12-31 16:13 Kocari: of stuff
2015-12-31 16:13 Kocari: TBH
2015-12-31 16:13 Kocari: I said everything
2015-12-31 16:15 Kocari: so far what we said http://puu.sh/mf8ID/5e91037c86.txt
2015-12-31 16:15 Kocari: or what I said
2015-12-31 16:16 Shad0w1and: ok ty <3
2015-12-31 16:16 Kocari: now he wants me to mod something else for him
2015-12-31 16:16 Kocari: oh boy
2015-12-31 16:17 Shad0w1and: nah ;w; i own you some mods, call me anytime when you need it;w;
2015-12-31 16:18 Shad0w1and: i have to go. have a nice day^ ^
2015-12-31 16:19 Kocari: really?
2015-12-31 17:18 Shad0w1and: yeah
2015-12-31 17:19 Kocari: ye
2015-12-31 18:00 Shad0w1and: and btw i guess you could actually paste the mod part of the log i guess that count for a mod?
2015-12-31 18:01 Shad0w1and: that actually help somehow, and the way i fix it by enlarge overall ds;w;
2015-12-31 18:01 Kocari: Welp he agrees with me on most things
2015-12-31 18:01 Kocari: but our conversdation just ended
2015-12-31 18:01 Kocari: so basically 2:30 minute conversation
2015-12-31 18:01 Kocari: It got very deep
2015-12-31 18:02 Shad0w1and: yeah, i am reading the chats and fixing it
2015-12-31 18:02 Kocari: nice nice
2015-12-31 18:03 Kocari: bakari's a cool guy
2015-12-31 18:03 Kocari: I like him
2015-12-31 18:03 Shad0w1and: yeah

and some additional conversiation with Bakari about the Extra diff

Gero

4,438 posts

Joined March 2012

Gero 2016-01-04T19:14:22+00:00

Are you accepting gds here?

Shad0w1and

1,588 posts

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Shad0w1and 2016-01-05T02:25:18+00:00

Gero wrote:
Are you accepting gds here?

Yes, but only normal and easy is left I guess

Gero

4,438 posts

Joined March 2012

Gero 2016-01-05T15:07:16+00:00

Finished.

Gero's Normal

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DreaM117er

1,594 posts

Joined September 2012

DreaM117er 2016-01-06T23:24:30+00:00

我什麼都不知道，我只知道我要GD它

Gero

4,438 posts

Joined March 2012

Gero 2016-01-23T15:26:24+00:00

Deleted the intro due the timing changes.

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400,224,52528,6,0,B|360:284|288:284|288:284|256:284|256:284|224:284|224:284|152:284|112:224,1,330,4|8,0:0|0:1,0:0:0:0:
216,108,54319,2,0,P|256:100|296:108,1,82.5,4|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
282,185,54879,2,0,B|256:194|256:194|230:185,1,55,4|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
188,192,55214,1,4,0:0:0:0:
140,312,56110,6,0,B|184:312|184:312|172:344|184:376,1,110,4|8,0:0|1:2,0:0:0:0:
256,344,56782,1,0,0:1:0:0:
328,376,57005,2,0,B|340:344|328:312|328:312|372:312,1,110,2|8,0:3|1:2,0:0:0:0:
427,257,57677,1,0,0:0:0:0:
372,202,57901,6,0,B|363:176|363:176|372:150,1,55,2|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
332,84,58349,2,0,L|416:84,2,82.5,8|2|0,1:2|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
292,17,59244,2,0,L|233:17,1,55,8|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
182,71,59692,5,2,0:3:0:0:
127,125,59916,1,0,0:0:0:0:
181,179,60140,2,0,P|192:218|181:257,2,82.5,8|2|0,1:2|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
115,218,61035,2,0,P|88:213|61:218,1,55,8|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
6,272,61483,5,2,0:3:0:0:
60,326,61707,1,0,0:0:0:0:
6,272,61931,2,0,L|-10:191,2,82.5,8|2|0,1:2|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
60,326,62826,2,0,B|87:326|87:326|109:348,1,55,8|8,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
184,364,63274,6,0,P|262:356|300:285,1,165,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
211,285,64170,2,0,P|249:355|328:364,1,165,2|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
405,345,65065,2,0,B|425:326|425:326|452:326,1,55,2|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
506,272,65513,2,0,L|522:191,2,82.5,8|2|0,1:2|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
432,252,66408,1,8,1:0:0:0:
296,192,66856,6,0,B|296:120|216:120|216:52,1,165,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
295,54,67751,2,0,B|296:120|216:120|216:192,1,165,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
229,269,68647,2,0,B|256:264|256:264|283:269,1,55,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
296,344,69095,2,0,P|256:352|216:344,2,82.5,4|4|8,0:0|0:0|1:2,0:0:0:0:
356,296,69990,1,8,1:2:0:0:
308,148,70438,6,0,B|276:148|256:133|256:133|236:148|204:148,1,110,4|8,0:0|1:2,0:0:0:0:
140,192,71110,1,0,0:0:0:0:
204,236,71334,2,0,B|236:236|256:251|256:251|276:236|308:236,1,110,4|8,0:0|1:2,0:0:0:0:
372,192,72005,1,0,0:0:0:0:
436,148,72229,2,0,L|319:31,2,165,2|2|8,0:3|0:0|1:2,0:0:0:0:
500,192,73796,1,0,0:0:0:0:
436,236,74020,6,0,B|388:236|388:236|324:236|296:296,1,165,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
216,296,74916,2,0,B|188:236|124:236|124:236|75:236,1,165,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
12,192,75811,1,4,0:0:0:0:
144,116,76259,6,0,B|184:116|184:116|216:84,1,82.5,4|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
297,85,76819,2,0,B|328:116|328:116|368:116,1,82.5,4|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
436,148,77379,1,8,0:1:0:0:
500,192,77602,6,0,B|500:224|515:244|515:244|500:264|500:296,1,110,4|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
445,350,78274,2,0,L|464:369,2,27.5,0|4|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
388,296,78722,2,0,B|336:296|336:296|292:340,1,110,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
240,284,79393,6,0,L|162:361,1,110,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,304,80066,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,244,80289,2,0,P|49:192|64:140,1,110,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,80,80961,1,2,0:0:0:0:
162,22,81185,6,0,L|240:100,1,110,4|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
294,45,81857,2,0,L|274:25,2,27.5,0|4|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
348,99,82304,2,0,P|363:151|348:203,1,110,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
272,232,82976,6,0,P|347:205|423:233,1,165,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
480,288,83872,1,0,0:0:0:0:
480,288,84095,2,2,P|465:236|480:184,1,110
424,132,84767,6,0,P|433:92|424:52,2,82.5,4|2|8,0:0|0:0|0:1,0:0:0:0:
356,172,85663,2,0,P|364:132|356:93,2,82.5,4|8|8,0:0|0:1|0:1,0:0:0:0:
287,131,86558,2,0,L|379:267,1,165,4|8,0:0|0:1,0:0:0:0:
433,322,87453,1,8,0:1:0:0:
378,376,87677,2,0,B|349:347|349:347|307:347,2,82.5,4|4|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,88461,12,0,89692,0:0:0:0:

Sauziteoi

205 posts

Joined February 2013

Sauziteoi 2016-02-02T07:06:09+00:00

from M4M.

General

包含了视频的文件大小超过了24M
title=The Biggest Dreamer(TVサイズ) 这似乎是官方给出的TVsize名
音频码率177kbps，这曲子是可以找到192kbps的，考虑更换。
Insane和Extra之间难度间隔稍大

Extra

00:03:991 (4,1) - 不合理的空间间隔，时间间隔比 00:02:670 (1,2) 更短，距离却更大
00:07:703 - 多余的绿线，考虑删去
00:09:657 - 多余的绿线，考虑删去
00:16:707 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - 不建议忽略明显的吉他而去跟不这么明显的鼓点
00:20:289 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - 同上
00:22:416 (2) - 这个whistle比较违和，建议去掉，或者换成clap
00:23:311 (3,1) - 间距太太太大，而且不顺手。听起来不太好，滑条3应该停在 00:23:647
00:34:953 (2,3,4) - 建议 http://puu.sh/mSKjd/f6bf5997c5.jpg 2和3换个位置，因为一直跟的人声应该在这里 00:34:953 被强调
00:42:453 (4,5,6,7) - 建议从 http://puu.sh/mSKrF/0605838839.jpg 改成 http://puu.sh/mSKsI/ab5bfa7746.jpg
00:43:573 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 1-23，3-45的人声和5-6是一样的但是用不同的节奏，这个会造成困惑
00:44:916 (6) - 应该停在 00:45:139 红线处
00:48:050 (6,7) - 建议 http://puu.sh/mSKFn/297d5ec787.jpg 也就是6换成滑条
00:49:841 (4,5,6,7) - 应该跟这里对应 00:41:782 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) ，而且忽略了很突出的人声实在不是好的选择
00:52:864 (2,3) - 稍远一点，和这里 00:53:423 (5,6) 不一样的时间间隔但是相似的空间间隔
00:53:647 (6,1) - 不明显的鼓点不建议放跳
00:53:871 (1,2,3,4) - 不建议在鼓点没有变化的情况下折返滑条和连打混用：00:54:095 (4) - 滑条头没有任何明显的鼓点，打下去的感觉就是按了四下，走了六下；这里是从1/4变成1/6，然后折返滑条的节奏不明确，后面还紧跟一个相同时间间距的单点，玩家不能反应过来。
00:54:655 (4,1,1) - 4-1是anti-jump而1-1不是，这个AR下这令人很难读，建议 http://puu.sh/mSLU5/2e0e5dd4ba.jpg ，另外这个跳和其他部分难度偏差太大
01:05:737 (4) - 建议提前到 01:05:624 跟回人声
01:09:207 (4,5) - 两条蓝线是应该强调的点，建议 http://puu.sh/mSMrN/ca101a24a0.jpg
01:11:110 (4,1) - 这个跳的理由不太充分，人声在 01:11:221 蓝线上
01:24:318 (1,2) - 太远了点...
01:27:453 (5,1) - 节奏变化不好读，建议用滑条

Kencho's Insane

00:34:617 (1,1,1) - 前后一直跟鼓點這裡突然跟人聲略有不妥
00:56:557 (2,3) - 和00:49:841 (3,4) 、00:54:318 (1,2) 有相近的空間間隔，略有誤導性。另外建議用兩個二連打
00:58:348 (2,3) - 同上

117's Hard

00:14:916 - 多餘的綠線。後面有很多，不再指出
01:28:461 - 綠線重疊，刪一條

Gero's Normal

00:20:289 (1) - this slider should end here 00:20:736
00:41:782 (4) - suggest to change from http://puu.sh/mSNKC/3d9858fda8.jpg to http://puu.sh/mSNNN/9d129adfb8.jpg
01:03:274 (1) - this slider should end here 01:03:721
01:23:872 (2,3) - suggest to change from http://puu.sh/mSNSP/84aa864ca1.jpg to http://puu.sh/mSNTC/486bab2764.jpg

Xin's Easy

00:15:363 (1) - It's hard to react because the slider is directly after the spinner.
01:03:274 (1,2) - make the blanket better.

Squichu

1,013 posts

Joined November 2012

Squichu 2016-02-15T21:40:48+00:00

Hellow, here's the mod I promised! :3
just a little late..

General

all good. ovob

Xin's Easy
The diff is fine, imo. Just some minor suggestions~

00:11:497 (1,1) - afaik they are too close for Easy, but shortening the spinner feels weird and starting much later with the objects is meh. Imo, it'd work better if you replace the spinner with a long slider and end it at 00:14:346 - and put a circle or slider on the downbeat to emphasize it better? ss: http://puu.sh/n96M9.jpg
00:23:871 (3,4) - I'd prefer two 1/1 sliders here instead, because of the drums that start on (3)'s sliderend. Sounds better to me when a new sldier starts there
00:40:886 (2,3) - there's a break in the vocals (probably new line, I don't know Japanese xD ?) and also the downbeat, which could be better emphasized. How about removing the reverse and adding a new slider on the downbeat? example: http://puu.sh/n97d3.jpg
00:48:945 (3) - similar here, consider extending the slider to 3/1 (without reverse) and then add another circle on the downbeat here 00:50:736 -?
00:52:527 (1,1) - same about this spinner as before, but works better here to shorten the spinner to 00:54:318 - than removing it, imo.
00:57:901 (3,4) - consider curving (3) in the opposite direction to improve flow a little. ss: http://puu.sh/n97A4.jpg
00:59:692 (1,2,3,4) - this rhythm feels a little weird to me, tbh. Maybe because of the vocals, I think they could be emphasized a little better, because the beat is pretty monotonous here. So a different rhythm might work better, example: http://puu.sh/n97Uo.jpg
01:06:856 (1) - consider splitting this into 1/1 slider + circle, works better with the vocals and isn't any harder to play
01:14:020 (1,2,3) - basically, same as I said before. I'd prefer a rhythm like this: http://puu.sh/n98bI.jpg
.

Gero's Normal
Nice diff, too. Just more minor suggestions..~~ ;w;

00:11:497 (1,1) - similar as in Easy. But even if it's not too short, I'd still prefer if the downbeat was clickable. You could end the spinner at 00:14:346 - and put a circle on the downbeat.
00:15:364 (1) - I don't think a reverse slider works well here, because of the equally strong beat on the white tick, but 3/4 slider + 1/2 slider is too much, too. s: maybe just use circle + 1/2 slider?
00:16:259 (3) - what is this mapped to? there's a completely new rhythm starting on the downbeat at 00:16:707 - which is in the middle of the slider.
considering this and the previous rhythm, maybe you could try this: http://puu.sh/n9bkQ.jpg ?
With the reverse on (2) the slider is kinda hard to drop, even with the sldierend on 1/4 beat before. Also, with this the downbeat is better emphasized, and 00:17:379 (3) - was turned into a slider, because 00:17:154 - is the stronger beat (> plays better to hit that instead of the weaker (3))
00:19:170 (2) - It feels really weird to hit this, because there's not really anything important on that beat.. but I get why you didn't start on the blue tick. :/ In case you changed the previous rhythm, I think it's save to use it again ( http://puu.sh/n9bNa.jpg ); in case you didn't change it, I'm not sure what to do. s:
00:20:289 (1) - the sliderend sounds off to me. But I'm not sure what this should be snapped to, ending it on the 1/4 beat sounds off, too. Since there's a louder beat on 00:20:736 - it might be best to end the slider there.
00:21:185 (2,3,4) - consider replacing them with two 1/2 sliders, matches better to the rhythm, imo (louder sounds on white ticks, weaker sounds on red ticks and the weaker sounds are clickable here)
00:24:767 (4) - this might be a little too hard to read. :/
(Personally, I think it's fine as it is. It's okay if some players drop a slider like this, they'll remember and do better next time.. but I couldn't use simple 1/2 sliders with two reverses in a song with much lower bpm and more time to realize that there's more than on reverse, so it _might_ be better to change this. But I hope you don't have to.)
00:31:035 (4) - this slider feels a little weird; I expected another 3/4 + reverse, because the rhythm stays the same. Consider changing the rhythm to something like this: http://puu.sh/n9cLf.jpg
01:01:483 (1,2,3) - hmmm, all objects are visible at the same time (not only in editor), so they (1,3) shouldn't be stacked, imo. It's just too confusing for Normal :/
00:54:319 (2) - missing NC?
00:56:110 (1,2,3,4) - this rhythm feels off, because the weak beats on (2) and (4) are clickable, but the more important ones are ignored. You could try this rhythm instead: http://puu.sh/n9dmx.jpg
or: http://puu.sh/n9doN.jpg
the same goes for 01:10:438 (1,2,3,4) -
01:15:811 (3) - shouldn't the NC be here instead of 01:16:259 (1) - ? It's on the downbeat everywhere else.
01:16:819 (2,3) - the beat on (3) is much weaker than on (2)'s end, so this works better, I think: http://puu.sh/n9dcf.jpg
01:18:274 (2) - already mentioned this above. Suggestion's the same, for 01:21:857 (2) - , too.

117's Hard
I don't really have anything to complain about in this diff except for

01:09:095 (3,4) - there's no beat on the blue tick that (3)'s reverse is on, but on the one between (3,4) is a beat and also vocals, so I'd prefer a rhythm that matches that better. example: http://puu.sh/n9er4.jpg ((4,5) could be turned into a slider, too.)

Kencho's Insane
Fun to play diff, I just don't agree with some stack. 'w' -

00:14:346 (1,1) - plays fine, but plays better when they're spaced, imo. Because of the strong downbeat it just feels better to move before hitting the object
00:16:595 (7,1) - same here. The beat isn't as strong as the first one mentioned, but it's a completely new rhythm starting on (1), so unstacking them works better, imo. (It also looks less confusing xD)
00:20:177 (7,1) - same as ^
00:34:617 (1,1,1) - imo, the NCs are unnecessary. The pattern is readable even without them.
same goes for 00:43:572 (1,1,1) -
01:19:280 (7,1) - and 01:22:863 (7,1) - same as above

Extra
Wow, I can't play this. ;__;

00:06:687 (2,1) - (only part I can play, haha..) the background vocals go on and the pace is reaaally slow, but still the stack feels like it's "too less movement", imo

I'm so sorry, but this is all I can find. >:
I hope I could help a little bit, even if it's not much~
And good luck with this! I'm leaving some stars because the song is awesome :3
//squee

Shad0w1and

1,588 posts

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Shad0w1and 2016-02-18T07:59:52+00:00

fixed some. not following vocal because almost all unsnapped.
GDers plz make sure you update b4 you apply mods, or make sure you have a red line:
8007,609.137055837563,4,3,1,40,1,0

also fixed xin's easy

Last edited by Shad0w1and 2016-02-20T00:57:45+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Kvantuma Rozo

70 posts

Joined April 2014

Kvantuma Rozo 2016-02-18T11:23:24+00:00

[GGGGGGGenral]
spread很危险啊，就算考虑了bpm导致星星不准的关系，I和x的差距也是蛮大的
[Insane]
00:46:930 (6,1) - 不好看
00:54:318 (1,2,3,4) - 不好读图，12几乎是双倍间距，23就变回正常间距了
01:07:527 (3,3) - 离上一个物件远一点

[extra]
为DT党考虑建议AR9
00:55:102 (1,2) - ctrl+G？

[Hard]
00:54:318 - 这块空着感觉不太对

[Normal]
00:27:453 (4,5,1,2) - way too crowded
01:27:677 (5) - NC？

[Easy]
00:22:080 (1,2) - symmetry plz

AFK太久，不太会摸，送2sp好了

Nakano Itsuki

1,218 posts

Joined July 2014

Nakano Itsuki 2016-03-01T20:38:32+00:00

remove widescreen support from hard and insane

[Extra]
00:03:252 (2,3) - 雖然說是extra但是在慢節奏下還要這麼遠我覺得不是太好，尤其00:02:670 (1,2) - 不是放得很遠
00:25:065 (3) - nc for no particular reason :v
00:35:289 (4) - ctrl g?
00:34:170 (6,7) - 這個間距... 00:33:722 (4,5,6) - 也沒有那麼大，後面卻一下子放到那麼遠
00:39:990 (1,2) - 玩起來不是太順手，不過可能只是我吧
00:51:408 (4,1) - ^
00:55:102 (1,2) - 如果是這樣的節奏我覺得ctrl g這兩個比較好，之前好像看過差不多的pattern是把好像00:54:655 (4,1,1) - 的三個circle都放到同一個地方，然後才把00:55:214 (2) - 放跳

[Insane]
00:37:304 (4,5,6,7) - 總覺得角度比較sharp
01:27:677 (5) - ctrl g 應該flow會好D

[Easy]
00:38:199 (3) - i dont think a normal sampleset fits here 00:39:095 would be better to just use a whistle imo
00:41:781 (3) - ^

除了extra spacing比較大之外其實其他diff沒什麼問題 :/
gl

Last edited by Nakano Itsuki 2016-03-11T16:33:07+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2016-03-09T05:58:57+00:00

这种是叫M4M ticket吗？

妈的好多老翔图我都想看到人remap啊，这个歌就是其中之一，太棒
~~你喜欢《God Knows...》吗，这是我最想看到人re的~~~

[General]

似乎都有人说了。星数差距，然后是那个标题是The Biggest Dreamer(TVサイズ)

[Easy]

00:27:453 (3,4) - 01:10:438 (1,2) - blanket
00:50:289 - slidertick sound here could be added

[Normal]

00:11:497 (1,1) - slider is too close to the spinner finishing
00:15:364 (1,2) - This overlap is not beautiful
u use a long slider(00:16:259 (2) - )and ignore a big sound (00:16:707 - ) then follow a smaller sound (00:17:379 (3) - ), it's really uncomfortable
00:41:782 (4) - 00:31:035 (4) - 01:12:229 (5) - and these long sliders are uncomfortable too
00:19:617 (3) - 01:18:722 (3) - 01:22:304 (3) - finish at the white, and if u want u can use a returning slider
00:20:736 - don't ignore this drum sound
00:21:185 (2,3) - try this
SPOILER
00:23:871 (3) - 00:28:349 (5) - 01:03:274 (1,2) - 01:06:856 (1,2) - 01:14:020 (1,2) - these sliders should finish at the white line instead of red
00:24:767 (4) - multi return in normal diff... use a longer slider instead?
00:39:095 (6) - use a slider and a note instead?
00:54:879 (3,4) -
SPOILER
01:01:483 (1,3) - this stack is too difficult in normal diff i think
01:16:259 (1,2,3) - hmm... i try several times and i can't keep my accuracy... rhythm seems no problem here but when i play, i feel strangely. so i suggest making some change.
01:25:663 (2) - ctrl+H?

[Hard]

00:24:767 (2,3) - 00:25:065 (3,1) - 这两处距离几乎一样，但时间间隔可不同，我建议修改一下，哪怕把00:25:065 (3,1) - 叠起来我觉得可能都更好一点
00:39:095 (2) - 拆成一个note和一个短折返滑条如何
01:16:707 (4) - 试试这样？
SPOILER
01:20:289 (4,5) - 没包好
117神麻婆，美丽

[Insane]

讲道理啊这节奏下得挺密的，ar8有点低。而且主难度9.2呢。建议8.5-9
前面部分有些滑条尾可以做消音处理，比如00:09:657 (4) -
美丽。这难度好好玩啊，我超喜欢。啃球也神麻婆

[越♂来♂越♂大]

~~妈个鸡我最近基本没打过图，这难度我现在已经打不动了，打不动还怎么摸啊卧槽这游戏好难玩~~
同insane，感觉前面音效还可以改进
00:33:946 (5,6,7) - ds可以改进，重音在6而不是7，你现在7放的最远
00:49:841 (4,5) - 这里彻底无视人声感觉不如放个三连
00:54:319 (1,2,3,4,1,1,2) - 哦草从这里开始真难，虽然没什么问题
你们都是神麻婆

Shad0w1and

1,588 posts

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Shad0w1and 2016-03-09T14:00:54+00:00

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Kencho

952 posts

Joined August 2013

Kencho 2016-03-12T08:36:48+00:00

Sauziteoi

Sauziteoi wrote:
Kencho's Insane
00:34:617 (1,1,1) - 前后一直跟鼓點這裡突然跟人聲略有不妥感覺還可以
00:56:557 (2,3) - 和00:49:841 (3,4) 、00:54:318 (1,2) 有相近的空間間隔，略有誤導性。另外建議用兩個二連打不喜歡直接的兩個圓圈，我改成圓圈加滑條了
00:58:348 (2,3) - 同上

Squirrel

Squirrel wrote:
Kencho's Insane
Fun to play diff, I just don't agree with some stack. 'w' -
00:14:346 (1,1) - plays fine, but plays better when they're spaced, imo. Because of the strong downbeat it just feels better to move before hitting the object
00:16:595 (7,1) - same here. The beat isn't as strong as the first one mentioned, but it's a completely new rhythm starting on (1), so unstacking them works better, imo. (It also looks less confusing xD) No, keep
00:20:177 (7,1) - same as ^ No, keep
00:34:617 (1,1,1) - imo, the NCs are unnecessary. The pattern is readable even without them. I used NC because it is following vocals. I want highlight them.
same goes for 00:43:572 (1,1,1) -
01:19:280 (7,1) - and 01:22:863 (7,1) - same as above No, keep

Kvantuma Rozo

Kvantuma Rozo wrote:
[Insane]
00:46:930 (6,1) - 不好看我個人挺喜歡放這種的，可能是審美觀不同
00:54:318 (1,2,3,4) - 不好读图，12几乎是双倍间距，23就变回正常间距了
01:07:527 (3,3) - 离上一个物件远一点玩著還好，主要是沒位置了

StarrStyx

StarrStyx wrote:
remove widescreen support from hard and insane

[Insane]
00:37:304 (4,5,6,7) - 總覺得角度比較sharp
01:27:677 (5) - ctrl g 應該flow會好D

Pata-Mon

Pata-Mon wrote:
[Insane]
讲道理啊这节奏下得挺密的，ar8有点低。而且主难度9.2呢。建议8.5-9 為了for DT還是用AR8，而且實際上這只是134bpm，再高就不好了（蝦抖的逼格放1/4單點那肯定要AR9以上
前面部分有些滑条尾可以做消音处理，比如00:09:657 (4) -
美丽。这难度好好玩啊，我超喜欢。啃球也神麻婆

No Reply=Fixed

Thanks your mod

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DreaM117er

1,594 posts

Joined September 2012

DreaM117er 2016-03-12T15:51:13+00:00

Sauziteoi wrote:
from M4M.
117's Hard
00:14:916 - 多餘的綠線。後面有很多，不再指出
01:28:461 - 綠線重疊，刪一條

Squirrel wrote:
Hellow, here's the mod I promised! :3
just a little late..

117's Hard
I don't really have anything to complain about in this diff except for
01:09:095 (3,4) - there's no beat on the blue tick that (3)'s reverse is on, but on the one between (3,4) is a beat and also vocals, so I'd prefer a rhythm that matches that better. example: http://puu.sh/n9er4.jpg ((4,5) could be turned into a slider, too.) >just fix reverse slider to 2 circles
I'm so sorry, but this is all I can find. >:
I hope I could help a little bit, even if it's not much~
And good luck with this! I'm leaving some stars because the song is awesome :3
//squee

Kvantuma Rozo wrote:
[GGGGGGGenral]
spread很危险啊，就算考虑了bpm导致星星不准的关系，I和x的差距也是蛮大的

[Hard]
00:54:318 - 这块空着感觉不太对 >為什麼呢??

AFK太久，不太会摸，送2sp好了

Pata-Mon wrote:
这种是叫M4M ticket吗？

妈的好多老翔图我都想看到人remap啊，这个歌就是其中之一，太棒
~~你喜欢《God Knows...》吗，这是我最想看到人re的~~~

[Hard]
00:24:767 (2,3) - 00:25:065 (3,1) - 这两处距离几乎一样，但时间间隔可不同，我建议修改一下，哪怕把00:25:065 (3,1) - 叠起来我觉得可能都更好一点 >這裡啊，我是用Insane的方法做的，配合歌曲的感覺把間距雖調小去處理，要是bn說不行我就會動
00:39:095 (2) - 拆成一个note和一个短折返滑条如何 >可以
01:16:707 (4) - 试试这样？ >這裡我是刻意這樣放的，給個空比較有歌曲的激昂感
SPOILER
01:20:289 (4,5) - 没包好 >爺爺啊
117神麻婆，美丽

remove all unused green line

這裡只有我不是神麻破，其他都是
I'm not pro mapper, others are

抱歉我來晚了

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Gero

4,438 posts

Joined March 2012

Gero 2016-03-31T22:03:45+00:00

Thanks a lot for the mods.

Gero's Normal

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Lanturn

osu! Alumni

3,912 posts

Joined March 2012

Lanturn 2016-03-31T22:18:47+00:00

Digimon <3

nice maps. good luck!

Kencho

952 posts

Joined August 2013

Kencho 2016-04-08T09:42:41+00:00

光叔去世了，趕快把這圖飛了紀念一下吧TAT

Squichu

1,013 posts

Joined November 2012

Squichu 2016-04-12T13:10:55+00:00

Hey there
-as requested!
(no kd, I modded this before!)

General - clear ✔

Xin's Easy

00:22:080 (1,2) - and 01:24:766 (1,2) - I'm not sure if 1/4 rhythms are okay in Easy. :/ I mean, they fit the song nicely, but the time/distance is going to be confusing for a lot of newbies. You could just ignore the 1/4 and place circles on 00:22:080 - 00:22:975 - 01:24:766 - 01:25:662 - s:
00:41:781 (3,4,5,6) - too many clickables in a row, imo, consider replacing pattern with something less click-heavy?
Also, shouldn't (5) have Normal sampleset, too, just like (3,4,6)? And why whistle?
00:48:945 (3) - as in my first mod. xD The downbeat really should be clickable, imo, so removing the reverse would be better.
maybe http://puu.sh/ofs8i.jpg so it's not getting too complicated?
01:00:587 (2,3) - ctrl+g rhythm to emphaisze vocals better?
01:14:020 (1,2,3) - also same as in first mod >:

Gero's Normal

01:28:460 - two green lines (with different settings)?
00:11:497 (1,1) - one beat recovery time is too short in Normal diff, I think, you need at least two
00:19:170 (2) - hmmh. I don't know what to suggest here as you seem to have declined the suggestion from my first mod without a detailed reply (no offense, I just don't know how to help/understand without that). I'm still uncomfortable with these rhythms. :/
00:45:364 (1) - NCs become inconsistent with previous ones, why do you switch from NC on each second downbeat to NC on each downbeat? Better to be consistent with that and add NC on each downbeat, imo
01:01:483 (1,2,3) - unstack for better readability? It's the only time you've used a pattern like this so it's pretty surprising
01:05:065 (3) - NCs switch to on each second downbeat again, why?
01:16:819 (3,4) - hmmh, having the strong sound on the slidertail doesn't work well with the circle on the weak beat, consider removing (4) so you don't take away all of the remaining effect the strong sound has

117's Hard - looks pretty good.

Kencho's Insane

00:06:230 (2) - the vocal is on the following red line, not on the 1/4, so consider snapping the sliderend to the new timing section instead? (just like in the higher diff)
00:15:363 (2,3,4,5) - (4) doesn't fit that well, because there's no held sound, consider replacing it with a circle? Also spacing looks a bit questionable, imo, (2,3) should have same distance as (4,5)
Same for 00:18:945 (2,3,4,5) -
00:16:707 (1,2,3) - sounds a little off because of the strong sound on (2)'s tail, maybe http://puu.sh/ofvT8.jpg works better with emphasizing it?
Same for 00:20:289 (1,2,3) -
00:27:229 (7) - missing whistle? (or clap?) I'm not too sure about your hitsounding pattern

Well, in detail I don't have much to say, but overall I don't agree with how very weak beats are mapped in comparison to how strong beats are mapped. There are a lot of 1/4 reverse sliders for example that start on very weak beats whereas the reverse and the tail have very strong beats, which is okay to play, but doesn't compliment the song.

still can't play the highest diff properly. s:

I wish I could help out more, but I can't judge the set properly so I'm unable to push this forward. :/
The best of luck to you, tho!

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2016-04-13T00:57:51+00:00

[Bigger than bigger]

Weird diff name... :S

00:15:364 (2,1,2) - The spacing here just doesn't reflect the fact that these rhythms are 1/4's instead of 1/2's like 00:14:916 (1,2) - .
00:16:707 (1,2,3) - This doesn't follow the same guitar sound as your previous measure.

This rhythm

00:18:946 (2,1,2) - Spacing etc...
00:31:035 (1) - This is offscreen by like 2 pixels.
Yea the spacing on this diff just isn't good...
00:27:453 (1,2) - Compare this to 00:27:901 (3,4,5,1) - You're left guessing what's 1/2, and what's 1/4
00:36:408 (1,2,3,4) - Etc...

It's a very recurring problem, I trust you know what I mean now so I won't list everything out.

[Kencho's Insane]

00:18:050 (6,7,1) - 7>1 should be a larger jump imo.
00:48:050 (4,5) - Ctrl+G'ing this rhythm follows the vocals better.
01:16:259 (1,2,1) - How about trying some doubles here

~

[117's Hard]

00:25:102 (3,1) - I feel this spacing is going to confuse Hard players.
00:32:266 - Potential for triplet here.

[Gero's Normal]

00:11:497 (1,1) - I don't think this is enough recovery time for a spinner xP. How about a slider-art or something instead?
00:41:782 (4) - This is too undermapped imo... Shorten this to 1/1 repeat if anything and add another circle on 00:43:124 - ?
01:28:460 - Double green line.
Nice symmetries

[Xin's Easy]

00:27:453 (3,4) - Fix this blanket

Alright good luck. I think the highest diff needs work cuz yea, the spacing isn't something I would personally agree with xP

Shad0w1and

1,588 posts

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Shad0w1and 2016-04-13T05:45:28+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
[Bigger than bigger]

Weird diff name... :S

00:15:364 (2,1,2) - The spacing here just doesn't reflect the fact that these rhythms are 1/4's instead of 1/2's like 00:14:916 (1,2) - .
00:16:707 (1,2,3) - This doesn't follow the same guitar sound as your previous measure.
This rhythm
00:18:946 (2,1,2) - Spacing etc...
00:31:035 (1) - This is offscreen by like 2 pixels.
Yea the spacing on this diff just isn't good...
00:27:453 (1,2) - Compare this to 00:27:901 (3,4,5,1) - You're left guessing what's 1/2, and what's 1/4
00:36:408 (1,2,3,4) - Etc...

It's a very recurring problem, I trust you know what I mean now so I won't list everything out.

[Xin's Easy]

00:27:453 (3,4) - Fix this blanket

Alright good luck. I think the highest diff needs work cuz yea, the spacing isn't something I would personally agree with xP

Yeah you are right, this diff was my first extra, and now I found it has these problems as you mentioned. I am reviewing all notes and will hopefully make it much better next time. These was really helpful suggestions.

Rechecked all placement. Now should be better

DreaM117er

1,594 posts

Joined September 2012

DreaM117er 2016-04-17T06:21:30+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
[Bigger than bigger]

[117's Hard]

00:25:102 (3,1) - I feel this spacing is going to confuse Hard players. >um.. I'm baka, so all fix
00:32:266 - Potential for triplet here.

Alright good luck. I think the highest diff needs work cuz yea, the spacing isn't something I would personally agree with xP

all fix

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Kencho

952 posts

Joined August 2013

Kencho 2016-05-10T06:10:08+00:00

Squirrel wrote:
Kencho's Insane
00:06:230 (2) - the vocal is on the following red line, not on the 1/4, so consider snapping the sliderend to the new timing section instead? (just like in the higher diff) Fixed
00:15:363 (2,3,4,5) - (4) doesn't fit that well, because there's no held sound, consider replacing it with a circle? Also spacing looks a bit questionable, imo, (2,3) should have same distance as (4,5)
Same for 00:18:945 (2,3,4,5) - No, keep
00:16:707 (1,2,3) - sounds a little off because of the strong sound on (2)'s tail, maybe http://puu.sh/ofvT8.jpg works better with emphasizing it? This part I'm following guitar
Same for 00:20:289 (1,2,3) -
00:27:229 (7) - missing whistle? (or clap?) I'm not too sure about your hitsounding pattern Fixed

Monstrata wrote:
[Kencho's Insane]

00:18:050 (6,7,1) - 7>1 should be a larger jump imo. No fixed, just like 00:21:632 (6,7,1) - 01:20:736 (6,7,1) -
00:48:050 (4,5) - Ctrl+G'ing this rhythm follows the vocals better. I have tried it before, but I think follow red tick will be better.
01:16:259 (1,2,1) - How about trying some doubles here I want some jumps here XD
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DistanceSpacing: 1.6
BeatDivisor: 4
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[Metadata]
Title:The Biggest Dreamer (TV Size)
TitleUnicode:The Biggest Dreamer (TVサイズ)
Artist:Wada Kouji
ArtistUnicode:和田光司
Creator:Shad0w1and
Version:Kencho's Insane
Source:デジモンテイマーズ
Tags:Digimon Tamers Kencho m1223961117 DreaM117er Gero XinCrin
BeatmapID:886675
BeatmapSetID:398819

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:7
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.6
SliderTickRate:1

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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
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smallboat

1,687 posts

Joined January 2010

smallboat 2016-05-13T17:59:20+00:00

[General]

Nothing to say

[Xin's Easy]

Fine

[Gero's Normal] 01:28:461 -> No two uninherited or two inherited timing sections should be placed at the same point.

(Maps that use repetitive strobes, pulsing images, or flashing colors in the storyboard must use the epilepsy warning.)
00:11:497 (1,1) - Make sure that there is a reasonable time delay after a spinner to the next object.
00:19:170 (2) - Seems use 1/4 tick slider at normal is too complicated imo, do a 1/2 here?
01:18:274 (2) - The same reason as above
01:21:857 (2) - Same as 00:19:170 (2)

[117's Hard]

沒事

[Kencho's Insane]

跟上面一樣

[Bigger than bigger]

00:19:281 (1,2) - 這兒重音的NC錯了，swap NC一下 (因為00:18:498 (1) - 和00:19:393 (2) - 的重音是相同的)，建議是改一下，現在很少是以藍線tick NC為首。
00:20:289 (3,1) - 應該還能近點縮到4.00x?
00:22:416 (2) - 忘了finish
00:24:916 (2) - 往右上點比較好，保持點相同間距
00:47:602 (4) - 音樂是往上的，用用ctrl+g?
00:53:647 (6,1) - 往上面移一下吧，5.5x的1/4間距太遠了有點路人斷
01:15:811 (1,2,3,4) - 還是覺得很遠，這聽音樂沒什麼跳點啊
01:21:967 (1,2) - 同00:19:281 (1,2)

Shad0w1and

1,588 posts

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Shad0w1and 2016-05-13T18:30:48+00:00

smallboat wrote:
[Bigger than bigger]
00:19:281 (1,2) - 這兒重音的NC錯了，swap NC一下 (因為00:18:498 (1) - 和00:19:393 (2) - 的重音是相同的)，建議是改一下，現在很少是以藍線tick NC為首。我的NC下法比较奇怪吧，这种两个一起的这里我当作这个蓝线是对后面重音的emphasis所以我觉得两种下法都行，但是美观来说我喜欢现在的
00:20:289 (3,1) - 應該還能近點縮到4.00x?
00:22:416 (2) - 忘了finish
00:24:916 (2) - 往右上點比較好，保持點相同間距
00:47:602 (4) - 音樂是往上的，用用ctrl+g? 感觉差不多，这里flow故意搞点变化
00:53:647 (6,1) - 往上面移一下吧，5.5x的1/4間距太遠了有點路人斷
01:15:811 (1,2,3,4) - 還是覺得很遠，這聽音樂沒什麼跳點啊
01:21:967 (1,2) - 同00:19:281 (1,2)

Gero PLZ

Gero

4,438 posts

Joined March 2012

Gero 2016-05-14T21:15:04+00:00

Squirrel

Gero's Normal

01:28:460 - two green lines (with different settings)? Fixed.
00:11:497 (1,1) - one beat recovery time is too short in Normal diff, I think, you need at least two Yeah, you're right, fixed.
00:19:170 (2) - hmmh. I don't know what to suggest here as you seem to have declined the suggestion from my first mod without a detailed reply (no offense, I just don't know how to help/understand without that). I'm still uncomfortable with these rhythms. :/ I don't think it's way too complicated to change them to be honest and also I mapped it with 1/2 and 1/4 so it's not a big deal.
00:45:364 (1) - NCs become inconsistent with previous ones, why do you switch from NC on each second downbeat to NC on each downbeat? Better to be consistent with that and add NC on each downbeat, imo Fixed.
01:01:483 (1,2,3) - unstack for better readability? It's the only time you've used a pattern like this so it's pretty surprising Increased the Stack Leniency by 1 tick, it should be fine now.
01:05:065 (3) - NCs switch to on each second downbeat again, why? Fixed.
01:16:819 (3,4) - hmmh, having the strong sound on the slidertail doesn't work well with the circle on the weak beat, consider removing (4) so you don't take away all of the remaining effect the strong sound has Yeah, that's true but don't you think that could be kinda confusing having a different spacing if I change the rhythm? that's why I wanna keep it as is.

Monstrata

[Gero's Normal]

00:11:497 (1,1) - I don't think this is enough recovery time for a spinner xP. How about a slider-art or something instead? Fixed.
00:41:782 (4) - This is too undermapped imo... Shorten this to 1/1 repeat if anything and add another circle on 00:43:124 - ? It feels kinda difficult to play, that's why I've used that kind of rhythm at this part.
01:28:460 - Double green line. Fixed.
Nice symmetries

smallboat

[Gero's Normal] 01:28:461 -> No two uninherited or two inherited timing sections should be placed at the same point. Fixed.

(Maps that use repetitive strobes, pulsing images, or flashing colors in the storyboard must use the epilepsy warning.) This doesn't contains a storyboard so that's unnecessary, I told you in game that I'm using storyboard-Hitsounds, that's why.
00:11:497 (1,1) - Make sure that there is a reasonable time delay after a spinner to the next object. Already fixed.
00:19:170 (2) - Seems use 1/4 tick slider at normal is too complicated imo, do a 1/2 here? As I already said, this was mapped steadily with 1/2 and 1/4 because the song has vocal and sounds in those gaps so I feel it isn't a big deal at all, besides that by playing this feels natural in my opinion.
01:18:274 (2) - The same reason as above What I've said before.
01:21:857 (2) - Same as 00:19:170 (2) ^

Gero's Normal

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133,33,49617,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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188,192,51185,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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324,192,51632,1,2,0:3:0:0:
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DreaM117er

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DreaM117er 2016-05-15T16:24:30+00:00

@Shad0w1and: 因為"我"覺得好看，這不是讓你這樣隨意的NC理由。我也建議蝦斗改NC

在我眼中這你這NC也是無理的

Shad0w1and

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Shad0w1and 2016-05-15T20:30:59+00:00

我對NC的定義是幫助player理解打擊pattern，所謂一簇為一組，和重音不必有必然聯繫。
當然你們都這麼說了就當作我的妥協吧。
個人還是喜歡之前的下法。
ALL fixed

smallboat

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smallboat 2016-05-16T16:27:04+00:00

Fix another issue (Make slidetick can audible) and looks fine. Bubbled

No kd

Chinese

2016-05-16 23:37 smallboat: p/5123208
2016-05-16 23:38 Shad0w1and: 唉难道这图我忘了改？
2016-05-16 23:38 smallboat: you cannot silence both slider ticks and slider slides together.
2016-05-16 23:38 Shad0w1and: 对
2016-05-16 23:38 Shad0w1and: 我知道，我以为我已经把所有图都改了
2016-05-16 23:38 Shad0w1and: 我看看
2016-05-16 23:38 smallboat: 你tick和slider都44
2016-05-16 23:39 smallboat: 廳都是無聲
2016-05-16 23:39 smallboat: 聽
2016-05-16 23:39 smallboat: 所以是不行
2016-05-16 23:39 Shad0w1and: 哎不对啊
2016-05-16 23:39 smallboat: 嗯?
2016-05-16 23:40 Shad0w1and: 啃球这个是不同的set音效吧
2016-05-16 23:40 Shad0w1and: http://puu.sh/oU21A/0272606d85.png
2016-05-16 23:40 Shad0w1and: 234都只有一个啊
2016-05-16 23:40 Shad0w1and: 不是一起的吧
2016-05-16 23:43 smallboat: 是說?
2016-05-16 23:43 Shad0w1and: 等等我再听听为什么没声音
2016-05-16 23:43 Shad0w1and: 稍等
2016-05-16 23:43 Shad0w1and: 啃球这个diff00:06:687 (3) -
2016-05-16 23:44 smallboat: 他這也沒聲.
2016-05-16 23:44 Shad0w1and: 啊啊对了
2016-05-16 23:44 Shad0w1and: drum有问题
2016-05-16 23:44 Shad0w1and: soft没问题
2016-05-16 23:45 smallboat: 還好我有說.
2016-05-16 23:45 Shad0w1and: 唉唉我马上改
2016-05-16 23:45 Shad0w1and: 我以为我都改了
2016-05-16 23:45 Shad0w1and: 这图做的比较早
2016-05-16 23:45 Shad0w1and: 我知道后改了不少图的hs
2016-05-16 23:45 smallboat: p/5123665 有證明是不能靜得所以你tick就弄到有聲吧
2016-05-16 23:45 smallboat: 恩對啊.
2016-05-16 23:46 Shad0w1and: 嗯好的
2016-05-16 23:46 smallboat: 本來我是想先看09的不過他那張好像做得有點多問題所以先看你的
2016-05-16 23:47 Shad0w1and: 稍等我找找
2016-05-16 23:47 smallboat: 嗯嗯改好再叫我
2016-05-16 23:52 Shad0w1and: 好了
2016-05-16 23:52 smallboat: 更心好了?
2016-05-16 23:52 smallboat: 新
2016-05-16 23:52 Shad0w1and: 对
2016-05-16 23:52 Shad0w1and: 换了drum slidertick
2016-05-17 00:01 smallboat: 嗯嗯

Shad0w1and wrote:
我對NC的定義是幫助player理解打擊pattern，所謂一簇為一組，和重音不必有必然聯繫。
當然你們都這麼說了就當作我的妥協吧。
個人還是喜歡之前的下法。
ALL fixed

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