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Last Note. - Uchouten Vivace (Short Ver.) [Taiko]

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hikiko-
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Ulqui
mah diff <3 http://puu.sh/mdoca/4b711a76b8.rar
> Oni becomes Inner Oni, add Ulqui's Oni
Ulqui
Tha little help
13:36 *Ulqui is playing Last Note. - Uchouten Vivace (Short Ver.) [Ulqui's Oni] <Taiko>
13:36 Ulqui: did u see the forum?
13:36 hikikochan: yup c:
13:36 Ulqui: uhuhuu
13:36 hikikochan: i'm looking at it in editor rn
13:37 hikikochan: ayy nice
13:37 hikikochan: i like all the notes are randomly placed on the grid lol
13:38 Ulqui: meh
13:38 Ulqui: no random notes
13:38 Ulqui: KAT = the sound of the high percussion
13:38 Ulqui: DON = everything else
13:38 hikikochan: i'm talking about on the grid
13:38 hikikochan: not in the music
13:38 Ulqui: oh
13:38 hikikochan: everything sounds pretty good
13:39 Ulqui: thanks
13:39 Ulqui: now
13:39 Ulqui: good luck on Inner
13:39 hikikochan: lol thanks
13:39 hikikochan: btw how many stars does it have to be to have the expert icon
13:39 Ulqui: + 5*
13:40 Ulqui: 5.5 uhuhu
13:40 hikikochan: hm it's probably around 5.4 or something
13:40 Ulqui: don't do anything 2 hard
13:40 hikikochan: https://osu.ppy.sh/b/704083&m=1
13:40 hikikochan: yeah ik
13:40 Ulqui: just something balanced
13:41 hikikochan: because of how high the bpm is i can just add 1/4ths to up the difficulty
13:41 Ulqui: 5 stars is not difficult to make
13:41 Ulqui: YES
13:41 Ulqui: that's right
13:41 Ulqui: now
13:41 Ulqui: *Eating
13:41 Ulqui: c ya
13:42 hikikochan: kk ttys~
14:08 Ulqui: hmm
14:08 *Ulqui is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/866355 Last Note. - Uchouten Vivace (Short Ver.)]
14:09 Ulqui: could you reduce the muzu's stars?
14:09 hikikochan: yup i'll do that once i finish the inner
14:10 Ulqui: okay :D
14:11 Ulqui: hey
14:12 Ulqui: gimme kudos ;-;
14:12 Ulqui: I NID KUDOS TWT+}
14:12 hikikochan: kudos are for mods tho lol
14:13 hikikochan: is it even a thing to give kudos for gds
14:14 Ulqui: ill mod it ;3
14:14 Ulqui: uhuhuhuhuhuh
14:14 hikikochan: wait for me to finish pls~
14:14 Ulqui: exactly
14:21 hikikochan: how much should i lower the difficulty of the muzu
14:22 Ulqui: try
14:22 Ulqui: 00:42:921 -
14:22 Ulqui: deleting dat
14:23 hikikochan: already did lol
14:23 hikikochan: hold on let me update the version on the website
14:23 Ulqui: xDD
14:23 Ulqui: okay
14:24 hikikochan: kk everything should be updated now
14:25 *Ulqui is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/866093 Last Note. - Uchouten Vivace (Short Ver.)]
14:25 Ulqui: time 2 redl
14:25 hikikochan: yup
14:26 Ulqui: oh
14:28 Ulqui: GOOOOOOD
14:28 Ulqui: nice Inner
14:28 hikikochan: lol how's the inner
14:28 hikikochan: yay :D
14:28 hikikochan: i tried
14:28 Ulqui: but
14:28 Ulqui: wait
14:29 Ulqui: 00:01:755 (10,11,12,13,14) -
14:29 Ulqui: dat
14:29 Ulqui: is no necesary
14:29 Ulqui: 00:03:560 (24,25,26,27,28) -
14:29 Ulqui: dat isn't 2
14:29 hikikochan: should i just change the first one to d d k
14:29 Ulqui: yes
14:29 hikikochan: and the second to k k d
14:29 Ulqui: an the second
14:29 Ulqui: kkd
14:29 hikikochan: okay cool
14:29 Ulqui: xDDD
14:29 Ulqui: k k d*
14:29 Ulqui: or d d k
14:30 hikikochan: i'm following the highest pitched instrument
14:30 hikikochan: so k k d
14:30 Ulqui: 00:01:811 (11,13,25,27) - delete
14:30 Ulqui: that's all ehehe
14:30 hikikochan: yay :D
14:31 Ulqui: Fu
14:31 Ulqui: Futsuu
14:31 Ulqui: hmmmm
14:31 hikikochan: hold on
14:31 hikikochan: delete 00:02:206 (13)
14:31 hikikochan: ?
14:31 Ulqui: you can use 1/2 on futsuu
14:32 Ulqui: nope
14:34 hikikochan: i think i went overboard with deleting notes in the futsuu lol
14:34 hikikochan: because at one point it was 2.6* and i had to get it down to <2.5*
14:35 Ulqui: xhm
14:35 Ulqui: http://puu.sh/mdQe9/37259d8efa.jpg
14:35 Ulqui: futsuu should be like that
14:36 hikikochan: so i should change all the offbeat stuff
14:36 Ulqui: and
14:36 Ulqui: http://puu.sh/mdQiM/8379b87fed.jpg
14:36 hikikochan: btw i'll give you kds for this
14:36 hikikochan: i'll just post the chatlog on the forum
14:37 Ulqui: you can use 1/2 triplets
14:37 Ulqui: okay
14:39 hikikochan: are you sure 18,19,20 should be d d d?
14:40 hikikochan: i feel like k k d makes more sense
14:40 Ulqui: nope
14:40 Ulqui: d d k is cool
14:40 Ulqui: xDD
14:40 hikikochan: bc like 20's on the downbeat
14:41 hikikochan: and it's the first time the drums come in
14:41 Ulqui: oh
14:41 hikikochan: so k k d?
14:42 Ulqui: yeah
14:42 Ulqui: 01:08:748 (167,168) -
14:42 Ulqui: d
14:42 Ulqui: and make a ddd triplet
14:43 Ulqui: 01:12:357 (179,180) - here you can make a triplet too
14:43 hikikochan: hold on the things you're copypasting don't match my version anymore lol
14:43 hikikochan: give me a sec
14:43 Ulqui: oku
14:43 Ulqui: okayy u.u
14:44 Ulqui: aah
14:44 Ulqui: dem keyboard
14:44 hikikochan: okay redl
14:44 Ulqui: okaay
14:45 Ulqui: gud
14:46 hikikochan: yeah i fixed the beginning like you said
14:46 hikikochan: are the offbeat notes okay?
14:46 Ulqui: honestly
14:46 Ulqui: idk
14:46 Ulqui: ;-;
14:47 hikikochan: i'll wait for a mod to fix it then lol
14:48 Ulqui: okayy
Aldwych
Hi hikikochan!

From queue

[General]

Disable wdescreen and coutound on the settings.
Reverse the HP settings on your set.

Kantan should have more HP than Inner since HP drain bar is influenced by the number of notes.

Reduce your global SV, it's too fast (moreover on the easiest diff).

[Kantan]

00:41:905++ : I don't understand this part, Why a quint pattern and not a triple + solo like the others? Why the pattern is different (not kkd nor dkd).
Why after the quint you put long break? The music is as intense as before. The real changement starts at 00:50:928.

00:59:048 : Delete these kind of notes, it is unconsistent with what you've done before.
01:01:304 : Same

01:17:996 : Around here it can be improvable since you didn't respect what you did before. 01:19:349 should be at 01:18:447 instead in order to follow the 3 1 1 * rythm.

01:19:800 : These d can be transformed into D in order to have more impact (personal opinion).

[Futsuu]

00:07:394 : I don't know why you k here since it's not consistent with your previous patterns
00:08:409 ++: I Completely disagree with theses notes, right now you play with 3/2, 5/2 and 2/1 breaks, which can be confuse for new players, imo you can do something consistent by doing something like :


nb : (24) = 00:09:424

It sounds well with the music and consistent.

00:23:296 : Since you only got 2 3/2 for a long time, i suggest you to move these 2 k.
00:30:627 : I would delete this note and keep a 3 or 5 notes pattern here.
00:33:334 : Same.
00:36:041 : And move this k to 00:35:139, this would help to get a consistent rythm pattern.
00:39:199 : Maybe try to keep a 5 1/1 pattern if possible.
00:42:808 : Imo your pattern is a it long. Maybe some clean can be a good solution.
00:48:221 : I don't understand this triplet, what is the difference with before?
00:50:928 : I may not said it on kantan, but it's suitable for finisher, it a new melody, a new section. Suitable for me.
01:02:657 : Move it to 01:02:545, it'll be consistent with the previous patterns.
01:10:778+ : I disagree with your pattern here, it seems that you tried to put different pattern colors you did d d kkd ; k k ddk and d k dkd; on the next pattern you should have instead k d dkd.
01:19:236 : I would delete this note, it may be confuse with the next pattern and in terms of melody there's no real relation with after.
01:22:281 : I would delete this note too for some clean and make the previous pattern and melody clear to play.

[Muzukashii]

I think i won"t be picky because the notes are placed well but its way to hard imo.

Several reason :

- Lack of break. The first 2/1 break come 1 min after, it's too far D: Let the player breathe a bit. The best you can do is to have 3/1 ~ 4/1 break between melody section (for examplearound 00:07:169, 00:21:830, and 00:50:702). Keep it clean.
- To much notes, compared to futsuu and Oni, futsuu has 195 notes, muzu has 470 and Oni 563, so you do a 300 / 100 differ. The gap is really huge, so you'll need to delete around 100 notes on the diff.

Generally the rythm is good but you'll need some rework (i mean clean it, do several deletes).

[Oni]

Same thing about the SV, imo 1.10 is really good.

00:13:484 : Since the melody is higher, i would go for k instead (compared to the other same patterns).
00:18:334 : You did k before, why not here?
00:20:251 : Even if it's full 1/2, it's a bit long pattern D:
00:28:823 : I don't understand this tripple, there's no battery and no real melody.
00:36:041 : Same. (Well it'll be the same on most of your triples).
00:51:830 : Better without (and in order to be more consistent with what you have after).
00:58:710 : I would delete this note aswell, the guitar is hearable and does a melody twice, split into two this stream would make it efficient.

[Spread]

00:00:402++ : (Futsuu to Inner), the patterns are completly the same from muzu to Inner during 4 seconds, you sould reduce the density on muzukashii and a bit on Oni, right now muzukashii contains lot of 1/2 where futsuu have 2/1 and 1/1, it's problematic and this one of the reason you got 1+ SR difference.

[Re-General]

Harder diff need too have less HP, because the more notes a diff have, the harder it is to clear it. That's what we have a decrease HP along the set where kantan has 8/9 HP, because it's not punitive a high HP on a diff where there's few notes.

Still find that SV is fast on futsuu + diff. Maybe you should ask some testplay about it.

That's all i can say.
GL hf for rank :)
Topic Starter
hikiko-
hi Aldwych! thanks for the mod, i really appreciate it c: although i'll give kds when you're done with the rest
i'll make changes to the kantan for now

modifications

Aldwych wrote:

[General]

Disable wdescreen and coutound on the settings. done
Reverse the HP settings on your set. c: thanks for explaining this, i had no idea what i was doing with the HP settings >.<

Kantan should have more HP than Inner since HP drain bar is influenced by the number of notes. ^^

Reduce your global SV, it's too fast (moreover on the easiest diff). changed kantan SV to 1.10, not sure if futsuu needs an SV nerf too but i'll get back to that when you finish modding

[Kantan]

00:41:905++ : I don't understand this part, Why a quint pattern and not a triple + solo like the others? Why the pattern is different (not kkd nor dkd). good point, i changed the pattern so that it makes more sense
Why after the quint you put long break? The music is as intense as before. The real changement starts at 00:50:928. fixed the break and added notes to the buildup

00:59:048 : Delete these kind of notes, it is unconsistent with what you've done before. i deleted those notes but added other triples to compensate since this is the final buildup to the chorus
01:01:304 : Same ^^

01:17:996 : Around here it can be improvable since you didn't respect what you did before. 01:19:349 should be at 01:18:447 instead in order to follow the 3 1 1 * rythm. kk changed

01:19:800 : These d can be transformed into D in order to have more impact (personal opinion). changed because i agree, but i also made the final K K D finishers to stay consistent
iloveyou4ever
Random mod owo
266bpm love it
[General]
Good :D
seems all right

note=n
[Kantan]
sv 1.1 is still high
I suggest change to 1.0
such as https://osu.ppy.sh/s/299136 this map


00:30:627 - remove this note

00:32:432 - ^

00:43:259 - change to d

01:07:620 - add d here

01:23:409 - add a finish note here

[Futsuu]
Still about the sv
I suggest you use sv 1.2 here

00:27:357 - Why don't put the 65th note here?

00:33:334 - this change to k and next note change to d?

00:35:139 - add a note here?

01:10:778 - change to k

01:14:838 - ^

This diff is nice :)

[Muzukashii]
Too hard,diff spread is uneven
You may easier this diff

00:00:515 - cancel this note(as to easier the map)

00:02:319 - ^

00:04:124 - ^

00:14:048 - change this note to k and next to d

00:34:124 - cancel this note

00:48:785 - cancek this note

00:50:477 - change this to d

01:00:740 - cancel this note

01:04:349 - change this to k (you may cancel the next note)

01:08:184 - cancel this note

01:13:484 - add d here

[Ulqui's Oni]
GD so I won't mod

[Inner Oni]
00:06:774 - cancel this note

00:14:048 - change the whole pattern too weird to me ;w; https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4319246

00:21:041 - change to k(high pitch)

00:43:259 - change to D

00:44:218 - remove this note

01:02:657 - maybe change to d?

01:04:293 - remove this note

01:07:733 - maybe add a note here

01:10:665 - maybe also add a note here?

01:12:526 - cancel this note,there should be a space between normal and finish note :)

01:13:823 - add d here

01:19:124 - add k here

Other notes are nice and well-placed

Good Luck for Ranked :)
iloveyou4ever
If you are stuck at 1.3k
I suggest you to play these map
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/333775 (5.4* but I think it's about ~5* only give out many pp)
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/400238?m=1 (convert,fake 6.85*,about 5* again)
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/444356?m=1 (convert,again it's not so hard just some 1/4 red notes stream)
Just like that :)
Topic Starter
hikiko-
made a lot of changes

Aldwych

Aldwych wrote:

[Futsuu]

00:07:394 : I don't know why you k here since it's not consistent with your previous patterns changed
00:08:409 ++: I Completely disagree with theses notes, right now you play with 3/2, 5/2 and 2/1 breaks, which can be confuse for new players, imo you can do something consistent by doing something like :


nb : (24) = 00:09:424

It sounds well with the music and consistent. thanks for the suggestion c:

00:23:296 : Since you only got 2 3/2 for a long time, i suggest you to move these 2 k. changed
00:30:627 : I would delete this note and keep a 3 or 5 notes pattern here. ^
00:33:334 : Same. ^
00:36:041 : And move this k to 00:35:139, this would help to get a consistent rythm pattern. ^
00:39:199 : Maybe try to keep a 5 1/1 pattern if possible. switched around some notes
00:42:808 : Imo your pattern is a it long. Maybe some clean can be a good solution. changed to 3 1/1 pattern
00:48:221 : I don't understand this triplet, what is the difference with before? removed the note in between
00:50:928 : I may not said it on kantan, but it's suitable for finisher, it a new melody, a new section. Suitable for me. oh okay cool c: i was a bit hesitant to put finishers in the lower diffs
01:02:657 : Move it to 01:02:545, it'll be consistent with the previous patterns. done
01:10:778+ : I disagree with your pattern here, it seems that you tried to put different pattern colors you did d d kkd ; k k ddk and d k dkd; on the next pattern you should have instead k d dkd. ^
01:19:236 : I would delete this note, it may be confuse with the next pattern and in terms of melody there's no real relation with after. ^
01:22:281 : I would delete this note too for some clean and make the previous pattern and melody clear to play. ^

[Muzukashii]

I think i won"t be picky because the notes are placed well but its way to hard imo.

Several reason :

- Lack of break. The first 2/1 break come 1 min after, it's too far D: Let the player breathe a bit. The best you can do is to have 3/1 ~ 4/1 break between melody section (for examplearound 00:07:169, 00:21:830, and 00:50:702). Keep it clean.
- To much notes, compared to futsuu and Oni, futsuu has 195 notes, muzu has 470 and Oni 563, so you do a 300 / 100 differ. The gap is really huge, so you'll need to delete around 100 notes on the diff. T.T that'll be fun lol

Generally the rythm is good but you'll need some rework (i mean clean it, do several deletes). c:

[Oni]

Same thing about the SV, imo 1.10 is really good. hm okay i'll ask around about opinions on SV

00:13:484 : Since the melody is higher, i would go for k instead (compared to the other same patterns).
00:18:334 : You did k before, why not here?
00:20:251 : Even if it's full 1/2, it's a bit long pattern D:
00:28:823 : I don't understand this tripple, there's no battery and no real melody.
00:36:041 : Same. (Well it'll be the same on most of your triples).
00:51:830 : Better without (and in order to be more consistent with what you have after).
00:58:710 : I would delete this note aswell, the guitar is hearable and does a melody twice, split into two this stream would make it efficient.

applied everything and did cleanups

[Spread]

00:00:402++ : (Futsuu to Inner), the patterns are completly the same from muzu to Inner during 4 seconds, you sould reduce the density on muzukashii and a bit on Oni, right now muzukashii contains lot of 1/2 where futsuu have 2/1 and 1/1, it's problematic and this one of the reason you got 1+ SR difference. okay i cleared up some of the longer patterns in the muzu

[Re-General]

Harder diff need too have less HP, because the more notes a diff have, the harder it is to clear it. That's what we have a decrease HP along the set where kantan has 8/9 HP, because it's not punitive a high HP on a diff where there's few notes. okay i put 9-7-5-4-3 from lowest to highest diff, idk if that's acceptable but i'll check with others

Still find that SV is fast on futsuu + diff. Maybe you should ask some testplay about it. will do

That's all i can say.
GL hf for rank :)
thanks for the mod!
iloveyou4ever

iloveyou4ever wrote:

Random mod owo
266bpm love it
[General]
Good :D
seems all right

note=n
[Kantan]
sv 1.1 is still high
I suggest change to 1.0
such as https://osu.ppy.sh/s/299136 this map
done. ugh i feel like SV's going to be something i change constantly while trying to rank this

00:30:627 - remove this note done

00:32:432 - ^ ^

00:43:259 - change to d this part is relatively higher pitched so i think k is better

01:07:620 - add d here done

01:23:409 - add a finish note here ^

[Futsuu]
Still about the sv
I suggest you use sv 1.2 here
okay
00:27:357 - Why don't put the 65th note here?

00:33:334 - this change to k and next note change to d?

00:35:139 - add a note here?

01:10:778 - change to k

01:14:838 - ^ oops my mistake

This diff is nice :) already changed a bunch of notes around from aldwych's mod and your suggestions pretty much match up perfectly c:

[Muzukashii]
Too hard,diff spread is uneven
You may easier this diff

00:00:515 - cancel this note(as to easier the map)

00:02:319 - ^

00:04:124 - ^

00:14:048 - change this note to k and next to d my mistake, fixed

00:34:124 - cancel this note

00:48:785 - cancek this note

00:50:477 - change this to d done

01:00:740 - cancel this note

01:04:349 - change this to k (you may cancel the next note) oh this sounds nice, thanks

01:08:184 - cancel this note

01:13:484 - add d here done

[Ulqui's Oni]
GD so I won't mod

[Inner Oni]
00:06:774 - cancel this note done

00:14:048 - change the whole pattern too weird to me ;w; https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4319246 idk this doesn't really match with what i'm doing overall, i did a bit of remapping tho c: thanks for taking the time to remap

00:21:041 - change to k(high pitch) done

00:43:259 - change to D ^

00:44:218 - remove this note ^

01:02:657 - maybe change to d? ^

01:04:293 - remove this note oh that's cool, done

01:07:733 - maybe add a note here ^

01:10:665 - maybe also add a note here? this is a kind of break between two phrases so i'm keeping the space

01:12:526 - cancel this note,there should be a space between normal and finish note :) done

01:13:823 - add d here ^

01:19:124 - add k here ^

Other notes are nice and well-placed

Good Luck for Ranked :)
thanks for the mod <3
[R]
[General]
- "Muzukashii" diff have aimod error (Ctrl+Shift+A)
- try to cut this song from 01:27:018 -
- add a kiai time here 00:07:620 - very strong pitch and then calm at 00:22:056 -
- Recommended HP from Kantan~Inner : 6-6-5-5-4

[Muzukashii]
from begining to kiai no have a 2/1 break and this have high bpm, this similiar with Oni sphread imo. I'll pointing what must to delete

00:00:627 -
00:01:417 -
00:02:432 -
00:03:221 -
00:04:236 -
00:05:026 -
00:06:830 -
00:07:394 (30,31) -

00:07:620 - to 00:22:056 - reference above

00:23:860 -
00:25:665 -
00:27:695 -
00:28:372 - move to 00:28:259 -
00:28:484 -
00:31:078 -
00:33:108 -
00:33:447 -
00:33:560 -
00:35:139 -
00:35:590 -

00:36:492 - to 00:50:928 - reference above


okay just that not lot
im not good at high bpm
Good Luck
Topic Starter
hikiko-
ty for the mod <3
changes

[R] wrote:

[General]
- "Muzukashii" diff have aimod error (Ctrl+Shift+A) :o fixed
- try to cut this song from 01:27:018 - i tried to cut the song so that it faded out over time :o i'll make a new mp3 if more people think it's an issue
- add a kiai time here 00:07:620 - very strong pitch and then calm at 00:22:056 - this causes an aimod error because the kiai is <15sec long. the only kiai i currently have is in the chorus, which imo is fine
- Recommended HP from Kantan~Inner : 6-6-5-5-4 tytytyty for this idk what i'm doing with the HP drain

[Muzukashii]
from begining to kiai no have a 2/1 break and this have high bpm, this similiar with Oni sphread imo. I'll pointing what must to delete

00:00:627 -
00:01:417 -
00:02:432 -
00:03:221 -
00:04:236 -
00:05:026 -
00:06:830 -
00:07:394 (30,31) - deleted only note 30

00:07:620 - to 00:22:056 - reference above

00:23:860 -
00:25:665 -
00:27:695 -
00:28:372 - move to 00:28:259 -
00:28:484 -
00:31:078 -
00:33:108 -
00:33:447 -
00:33:560 -
00:35:139 -
00:35:590 -

00:36:492 - to 00:50:928 - reference above

accepted all the deletions except the one with a note

okay just that not lot
im not good at high bpm
Good Luck
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