xi - Double Helix [OsuMania]

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Nivrad00 wrote:

BN check
Timing

I see the timing corrections you and Evening did, but I hate to see a map approximating the rhythm with 1/12 adjustments and odd offset changes. I went through and timed the weird part more rigorously for you. Here's my version of the timing points + resnapped notes: http://puu.sh/pSHMJ.osu (right click > save link as)

You can choose to stay with the old timing if you'd like. My version may have the advantage of being slightly more on-sync (I hope) and having more sensible snaps, but it also clutters up the playfield with measure lines. I'm pretty sure the old version is synced well enough to be rankable, so if you don't like the measure lines that's cool Added the new timings, thank you so much! I'm not good with timings which is why I couldn't do it myself :P also measure lines are cool

04:38:025 - can I ask you to reconsider this kiai start? Unlike 00:18:224 - , 01:57:452 - , 02:09:760 - , etc, I don't hear a significant buildup to the second beat of the measure. The kiai start might fit better at 04:36:006 - which sounds like the culmination of the buildup or 04:37:641 - at the start of the measure Agreed! Changed the start of the kiai to 04:36:006 -

Metadata

I suggest you add the album name AD:PIANO 2 (source: http://diverse.jp/dvsp-0107/ ) and marathon cus why not, maybe people will be searching for marathons Added both!

Can you explain what the tag world fragments means? I need to know before I bubble World Fragments is what I assumed the name of the album or something was. Of course I'm just inferring this off contextual clues, so I could be very wrong about this. Source: http://diverse.jp/dvsp-0145/
hahaha because DNA is in the nucleus hehehehe ok Technically DNA is a subset of the wider range of nucleic acids. Of course I'm always up for changing it to the Gradual Intensification of an Incomprehensibly Complex Deoxyribonucleic Structure.

00:26:750 - did you mean to put the two-note chord here for the drum? the only sound at 00:26:782 - is a hi hat i think fixed
00:42:070 - no 1/6? (you mapped the corresponding 1/6 at 00:54:378 - ) uh, the 1/6 here is significantly softer, which is why I missed it out to begin with. Nonetheless I've added it
01:32:455 (92455|6,92519|5,92583|4,92647|0,92711|1,92775|2) - I only hear 1/4 here oops. fixed!
02:07:741 - chord pls chorded
03:31:183 - shouldn't this all be 1/6 correct! not sure what I was hearing the first time
03:44:516 (224516|0,224804|0) - I think these both go on the 1/12 before it oh ok cool. wasn't sure about that myself.
04:59:083 - I don't hear a piano here oh ok. changed to [4][5][3]

I just had the best idea. Pattern suggestion: http://puu.sh/pSNl6.osu
note that I added notes at 02:53:894 - and 02:54:535 - to preserve the pattern. I think there are quiet piano sounds there, but you can get rid of them if you want
don't feel pressured to change it but please, it would be LEGENDARY added. something something legendary

My two cents:

I think the other modders were on to something when they said the patterning was *too* consistent. Just look at the 1-2-3 and 5-6-7-esque patterns everywhere. However, what they failed to point out is that it makes the map feel more cohesive and distinct. It gives it more personality. You can even consider 1-2-3 to be a sort of motif :)

(Of course, if all your maps end up looking like that then it can get tiresome) <-- oh no

This song is great for mapping and you really did justice to the nuances of rhythm, pitch, and structure. The streams are fun too. I'll be glad to bubble this set once you respond to my suggestions. Note that if you implement any of the larger changes then we'll need Evening to re-bubble as well. Cheers 8-)thanks! I implemented like everything so I assume that means I need Evening to rebub this ;_;
implemented and updated and etc so bubble is pop. dunno what that means. o well
Evening
Rechecked the suggestions and rebubbled

Bubble #1
Niks
great betmap... wow
Nivrad00
I think you forgot to add the tags, if you wouldn't mind doing that. small change so we don't need a re-bubble from Evening

You noticed what the pattern I suggested resembles, right? :)
Topic Starter
Level 51

Nivrad00 wrote:

I think you forgot to add the tags, if you wouldn't mind doing that. small change so we don't need a re-bubble from Evening
AAAA I somehow forgot to do that!! Or maybe I accidentally edited the tags on the wrong map oops BUT it's done now >:3
You noticed what the pattern I suggested resembles, right? :)
OH I JUST REALISED LOL THAT'S GREAT
Nivrad00
Rebubble (bubble #2)

^^
Topic Starter
Level 51
Blocko sent me his check (http://puu.sh/qeHTX/ddfd6f71b9.txt) and it is here below. We did the first minute on IRC prior to this check. I've edited the map accordingly, just waiting on him for a hitsound check. Coincidentally, this map has been around for 7 months! Happy 7/12 birthday!!!

01:04:763 (64763|6) - pretty sure this is a ghost note
01:05:243 (65243|4) -
removed one note from each.

01:05:628 (65628|5) - move down to 01:05:436 -
pretty sure you mean 01:05:724 - ? I moved it there.

01:09:763 - maybe you can add 1/6 there
01:10:532 - 1/6 starts here
changed the relevant part to http://puu.sh/qitIj/6033fe89ab.jpg

01:13:801 - 1/6 starts here
fixed

01:14:667 (74667|4) - delete or move down to 01:14:474 -
moved

01:24:186 - 1/6
1/6ed

01:24:763 (84763|1,84763|2,84859|5,84859|6,84859|3) - 1/6
added a 1/6 between there

01:31:301 - this whole part is 1/6
1/6ed it kinda

01:44:667 (104667|6) - move to 2 for a bit of hand balance and pitch
done

01:52:647 (112647|6,112647|0,112711|4,112711|2,112775|1,112775|5) - trill this to accent the piano/drum? 232 545
done

02:37:068 to 02:41:491 - Pretty weird to have drums at the start then it disappears later on.
02:55:337 to 02:56:298 - Same here.
kept the drum / cymbal beat at the start as it leads into the softer section fairly well, but i removed the chord at 02:38:221 - . the chords at 02:55:337 - and 02:55:721 - are for the cymbal, not for the drum, but i lowered them to 4-note chords.

02:59:760 - keep that 3-2-3-2-3 pattern density going
fixed

03:04:087 - Add another note here to complete the double-stream
added on 4

03:04:760 (184760|4,184760|3,184760|5,185048|3,185048|2,185048|4,185337|2,185337|1,185337|3) - 4-note chords for more impact
ok

03:06:587 - add on 3 for that deep tom
03:06:875 - add on 6
both are suggested because of 03:07:164 -
added, good catch

03:09:568 - another note here for kick
03:18:029 - add another note for crash
done

03:26:683 (206683|6,206875|0,207260|0,207452|6,207644|0,208231|1,208429|0,208823|0,209021|1) - seems to make this simple part a bit overdone. remove them?
removed

03:29:712 - piano note here
added

03:29:975 (209975|0,209975|5,210008|1,210040|2,210073|3) - snap to 1/16
resnapped

03:31:204 - overdone imo, change to a > pattern (1357531)
did not want to make the change, but i lowered the starting and ending notes to 2-note chords.

03:32:614 (212614|5,212614|4,212639|6) - move to the left hand
ctrl-H'd

03:50:910 (230910|5,230910|0) - 1/3?
aye. moved upwards.

03:53:987 (233987|6,234083|5,234179|4,234275|3,234371|2,234468|1) - ghost?
yeah. changed to this: http://puu.sh/qiuXs/d49e4d1045.png

03:58:218 (238218|5,238410|3) - move up one line under 1/4 (or map it in a way that emphasizes those chords)
done this

04:01:487 - another note here for the chord
04:08:987 - same, on 1
done

04:28:025 (268025|2,268121|0,268218|4,268314|6) - double stream this?
aye. also added a note on the red line because of drum thing.

04:29:371 - add the drums here? cuz of 04:28:987 -
changed to http://puu.sh/qiuAi/47c3985b29.jpg

04:38:314 (278314|5) - move to 4 for bigger impact? dunno how to say this, but it's just to avoid 567
done

04:43:794 - add note here
04:44:179 - add note here
aye

04:44:468 (284468|5) - move to 3
yep

04:50:333 - add note here
done

05:16:871 - 6-note chords here for a denser ending?
added notes! :D

make drain/od higher to about 9/9 if applicable
raised od to 8.3 and hp to 8.5. big chords so i don't want to make hp 9, especially with the chordjack section at the end. chordstreams are also more fun on lower ods.
Kamikaze
get rebubbles after those changes and call me for rank, dis is gud shit fam
Topic Starter
Level 51
Reuploaded to fix one thing as pointed out by Evening:
[7:24 PM] Evening: 03:50:974 (230974|5,230974|0) -  pretty sure this is 1/8
Evening
fixed a 1/8, #1

no kds
PyaKura
Soon(tm)

This better be ranked before I start actively playing again :^D
Nivrad00
no objection with the changes #2
Kamikaze

bad session ending score, my acc sucks lmao

Alright, I have few suggestions to make before qualify
01:10:596 (70596|1,70660|2,70724|3,70788|6,70852|5,70917|4,70981|3,71045|2) - What do these notes go to? I don't really hear anything here
02:21:170 (141170|4,141202|2,141234|3,141362|2,141394|4,141426|3,141555|4,141587|2,141619|3) - idk this is really weird for a piano sweep, does not represent pitch at all, are you sure you want to keep this?

The map honestly plays amazingly but I have a problem with hitsounding. The sampling has been done well, but the hitsounds are pretty much inaudible apart from some places where you have 4 of them at the same time and the calm part. You absolutely need to up the hitsound volume by like 10-20% overall and while you're at it, make sure to increase the volume of all timing sections to at least 20% so you can hear hitsounds if you disable the custom samples.

Call me back when you've made the hitsounds clearly hearable and we can get it going to qualified
Topic Starter
Level 51

-Kamikaze- wrote:

Alright, I have few suggestions to make before qualify
01:10:596 (70596|1,70660|2,70724|3,70788|6,70852|5,70917|4,70981|3,71045|2) - What do these notes go to? I don't really hear anything here
I actually thought the background melody was probably 1/6, but these are kind of just here to quicken the pace of this section. Kinda dumpy I suppose. If you think it shouldn't be 1/6 I can change it to a 1/4 though

02:21:170 (141170|4,141202|2,141234|3,141362|2,141394|4,141426|3,141555|4,141587|2,141619|3) - idk this is really weird for a piano sweep, does not represent pitch at all, are you sure you want to keep this?
Would prefer to keep the structure timing-wise, but I changed the actual patterning in order to perhaps represent the pitch better:


The map honestly plays amazingly but I have a problem with hitsounding. The sampling has been done well, but the hitsounds are pretty much inaudible apart from some places where you have 4 of them at the same time and the calm part. You absolutely need to up the hitsound volume by like 10-20% overall and while you're at it, make sure to increase the volume of all timing sections to at least 20% so you can hear hitsounds if you disable the custom samples.

Call me back when you've made the hitsounds clearly hearable and we can get it going to qualified
I upped the hitsound volume to 30% across the map, lowering it to ~25% where there were a lot of consecutive drums and raising some parts to 40% to stand out more (e.g. the break section in the middle, which has relatively few notes for the amount of background noise)
Kamikaze

Level 51 wrote:

-Kamikaze- wrote:

Alright, I have few suggestions to make before qualify
01:10:596 (70596|1,70660|2,70724|3,70788|6,70852|5,70917|4,70981|3,71045|2) - What do these notes go to? I don't really hear anything here
I actually thought the background melody was probably 1/6, but these are kind of just here to quicken the pace of this section. Kinda dumpy I suppose. If you think it shouldn't be 1/6 I can change it to a 1/4 though
Yeah, you should change it, dumpy is kinda bad ranking wise still

As for hitsounds, they are fine overall now, but some chords sound unnaturally loud (imballanced with rest of the chart) like for example stacked crashes on 00:23:993 - or 01:07:263 - . Go through the chart on autoplay and lower volume of some of them to make it more ballanced

00:58:224 - Same situation as 1:10
03:03:318 - Kinda weird that there's that little break here, single 1/4 notes for background piano would flow better into the doublestair up ahead
03:31:204 (211204|6,211270|4,211337|2,211404|0,211404|5,211470|3,211537|1) - Man this sounds more like a reverse stair '_<>'
03:56:294 (236294|4,236294|5) - Would move that to [67] just to avoid the anchor on 5th (03:55:846 (235846|4,236038|4,236166|4,236294|4) - )
04:44:179 - Lack of crashes/finishes for some reason?
04:50:333 - Here too
04:59:371 (299371|1,299371|6,299371|4,299468|3,299564|0,299564|5,299564|2) - I was always wondering why isn't this accented with a minijack as well or at least a small bracket but just 3-1-3 chords
05:02:448 (302448|1,302448|5,302448|4,302448|0,302544|3,302641|5,302641|1,302641|2,302641|6) - Small bracket would be fitting here too

This should be all
Topic Starter
Level 51

-Kamikaze- wrote:

Yeah, you should change it, dumpy is kinda bad ranking wise still 1/4'd it

As for hitsounds, they are fine overall now, but some chords sound unnaturally loud (imballanced with rest of the chart) like for example stacked crashes on 00:23:993 - or 01:07:263 - . Go through the chart on autoplay and lower volume of some of them to make it more ballanced

00:58:224 - Same situation as 1:10 if you're referring to hitsounds I lowered this volume
03:03:318 - Kinda weird that there's that little break here, single 1/4 notes for background piano would flow better into the doublestair up ahead added!
03:31:204 (211204|6,211270|4,211337|2,211404|0,211404|5,211470|3,211537|1) - Man this sounds more like a reverse stair '_<>' changed to Blocko's 1357531 pattern
03:56:294 (236294|4,236294|5) - Would move that to [67] just to avoid the anchor on 5th (03:55:846 (235846|4,236038|4,236166|4,236294|4) - ) done
04:44:179 - Lack of crashes/finishes for some reason?
04:50:333 - Here too fixed these
04:59:371 (299371|1,299371|6,299371|4,299468|3,299564|0,299564|5,299564|2) - I was always wondering why isn't this accented with a minijack as well or at least a small bracket but just 3-1-3 chords Moved the single note to [5] for the minijack! Seems pretty okay there too
05:02:448 (302448|1,302448|5,302448|4,302448|0,302544|3,302641|5,302641|1,302641|2,302641|6) - Small bracket would be fitting here too
did a [1267][35][1267]
This should be all
Working on HS now, will poke Kami when I'm done :3!

edit: Hitsound rework is done! Kami is also poked
Kamikaze
I have been poked.
Map has been qualified! Congratz!
PyaKura
Awesome! Congratz L51. :)
Raveille
I can finally have children with Level 51.

Congrats Level 51! bad_buds for life :D
MadBricktree
Congratulations \o/
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