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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Monday, 15 August, 2016 at 7:58:44 PM

Artist: xi
Title: Double Helix
Tags: world fragments diverse system AD:PIANO 2 marathon
BPM: 156
Filesize: 8861kb
Play Time: 05:17
Difficulties Available:
  1. Nucleic - 7Key (6.06 stars, 6159 notes)


Download: xi - Double Helix
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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osu! needs more xi! - Timing points and background taken from TKS' Taiko mapset; hitsounds stolen from Kuo Kyoka's other xi map, ANiMA.

Redownload after 12/6/2016 - new hitsounds (courtesy of Evening!)

Nucleic: 6.10★ \\ RANKED! \\ Mapping 100% \\ Hitsounding 100%
A straight and simple LN-less stair-filled marathon-length map, for those who can't stand holding keys down. Peppered with polyrhythms and chordstreams, this map really tests your dexterity as well as your stamina, culminating in a (surprisingly, relatively comfortable) chordjack section. More stairs than a vertical marathon. Prepare your hands!

[Modders / Testplayers]
in an arbitrarily alphabetical order!
AncuL: and 1 star! ((((((:
Aqo
ArcherLove: and 1 star! /me hug
Blocko: 5 stars!! n_n /me hug ET Blocko
Evening
FLYMENT
FrenzyLi: and 1 star! ^_^!
Gravey-: 3 stars! ((((:
iJinjin
jakads
-Kamikaze-
Kyousuke-: 3 stars! :3c
Lenfried-: 5 stars o_o!! /me squeeze
pporse
PyaKura: and 2 stars! THANKS! :]
Shiro-neechan
Squishykorean
ZeroCalamity: 3 stars!! \:D/

Bubble 1 and new hitsounding by Evening with input from Blocko!
Bubble 2 by Nivrad00! Thanks also for the rigorous re-timing :3
Flame by -Kamikaze- after an initial check from Blocko!

I hope I didn't forget anyone. If I did, don't take it personally and feel free to poke me about it!
posted
Hi there Level 51! Unfortunately, the MMT has decided to reject your map.

The thing is, your map does have points where it does shine with interesting patterns, but the map as a whole tends to end up feeling somewhat monotonous and repetitive. Each particular section of your map may be fine on its own, as at an initial glance, there does not seem to necessarily be anything wrong with any of the patterns. However, when playing through the map as a whole, the sections end up all blending together, resulting in what feels like a 6 minute long stream.

In this case, while attempting to make this map some sort of boss map, the map becomes saturated with double streams, leading to some of the more interesting parts of the map being the sections with a single stream instead. This is particularly noticeable throughout the kiai times, as they are all effectively giant double streams with some polyrhythms mixed in, something that gets boring after around a minute (in my case.) In order to keep this map somewhat interesting, it might be better to possibly sacrifice some of the constant difficulty that is currently present within some sections of your map, and use some easier patterns in some sections to make the map more diverse instead.

All that being said, this map isn't bad by any means at all. If you improve this map, you are always free to requeue again! Good luck with your map!
posted
oo first mod

First Impressions:
654 x200s why
Cool. Make more stuff like this and you got yourself a fan. I disagree with certain layer densities and stuff. Can't mod consistency for this. Also, I can't get a hold on what sounds you are layering so ill throw in what i think is right.
col 1-7

Kinda disagree that the triples go to the sound in 00:03:609 - maybe chart the piano chord-ish sound here 00:03:224 - instead
00:05:724 - idk lol https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4622226
00:07:840 - Not a fan of the jumptrill so here's something https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4622241
00:13:032 (13032|4) - maybe move to 2
00:13:224 - in cases like this, i just throw chords randomly with a single lane minijack after every chord. Not a suggestion in itself, just to further explain the subject: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4622277
00:17:070 (17070|1,17070|0,17167|5,17167|4) - move right once. if done, 00:16:782 (16782|1,16878|2) - swap col + 00:16:974 (16974|6) - to 1
00:18:224 - y u no triple or better yet a quad. If quad is applied, quad this too 00:18:513 -
00:19:763 - could triple too
00:20:147 - felt empty, chart piano pls
00:20:147 - idk lol v2.0 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4622305
00:21:109 - idk lol v3.0 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4622325
00:23:128 - quad?
00:23:609 - dont get why this is a quad
00:27:743 (27743|5) - to 1 maybe + 00:27:647 (27647|6) - to 6
00:28:417 - add note, more expressive
00:29:282 (29282|3) - to 7
00:29:955 (29955|2) - to 1 if you're mean
00:31:686 - bland pattern considering the increase in intensity. Might want to sacrifice consistency by converting white line or even white + red line notes to triples
00:38:609 - was kinda expecting a right to left finger motion for this sound. Doing that complements this 00:38:993 -
00:57:840 - 00:59:378 wao this diff raise
01:07:840 - chart grace note if you're evil. Adds some flair too if executed with playability. Same case for other piano stuff w/ grace notes. Might want to do it here 01:11:686 btw im not sure if those notes really exist soooooo :x
01:56:686 - w0t why quad
01:57:068 - ^
01:57:452 - cool BG sound, quad pls
01:57:741 - ^
02:01:875 - idk lol v4.0 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4622423
02:03:894 - u no quad
02:06:683 - could be triple
02:07:068 - hit the quad. hit the quad. Stupid normie referencing trash music. Hit the quad. Hit the quad
02:09:760 - ^
02:10:048 - hi there. Undercharted af
02:18:510 - add 3
02:21:106 - sexy
02:32:068 - spooky
02:33:221 - same case, throw the chords everywhere
02:35:721 (155721|6) - maybe 3
02:37:068 (157068|0) - ^
03:27:837 - w0t why quad
03:30:979 - ^
03:54:948 - naisu
04:26:871 - yep. make this all quads and throw the chords all over the place
04:31:871 - double
04:34:756 - ^
04:55:237 (295237|1) - to 3
Ye, that's my semi-quickie


have some stars too
posted

Lenfried- wrote:

oo first mod

First Impressions:
654 x200s why
Cool. Make more stuff like this and you got yourself a fan. I disagree with certain layer densities and stuff. Can't mod consistency for this. Also, I can't get a hold on what sounds you are layering so ill throw in what i think is right.
col 1-7

Kinda disagree that the triples go to the sound in 00:03:609 - maybe chart the piano chord-ish sound here 00:03:224 - instead i think the second triple is alright, but yeah i changed the first one.
00:05:724 - idk lol https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4622226 i see your point about the flow being weird, changed it so hopefully it's better now
00:07:840 - Not a fan of the jumptrill so here's something https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4622241 sounds a bit like the sound is being repeated so i kept the repetition on the right hand but spaced out the one on the left.
00:13:032 (13032|4) - maybe move to 2 cool ok
00:13:224 - in cases like this, i just throw chords randomly with a single lane minijack after every chord. Not a suggestion in itself, just to further explain the subject: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4622277 somehow the jack seems more comfortable to me, but hey there's an idea. might change this if more people bring it up.
00:17:070 (17070|1,17070|0,17167|5,17167|4) - move right once. if done, 00:16:782 (16782|1,16878|2) - swap col + 00:16:974 (16974|6) - to 1 i actually removed the notes at 00:17:070 - since I couldn't figure out why they were there LOL. but i moved the notes at 00:17:167 - to the right for balance.
00:18:224 - y u no triple or better yet a quad. If quad is applied, quad this too 00:18:513 - tripled the first one.
00:19:763 - could triple too done! also moved a couple notes before it to make it more comfortable to play
00:20:147 - felt empty, chart piano pls added a note at 00:20:243 -
00:20:147 - idk lol v2.0 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4622305 as above. couldn't actually hear any discernible note at 00:20:147 - .
00:21:109 - idk lol v3.0 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4622325 oh that's a nice pattern
00:23:128 - quad? quadded
00:23:609 - dont get why this is a quad me neither, reduced lol
00:27:743 (27743|5) - to 1 maybe + 00:27:647 (27647|6) - to 6 done
00:28:417 - add note, more expressive added one on 5 to avoid the space bar nightmares
00:29:282 (29282|3) - to 7 changed that chord to a 247
00:29:955 (29955|2) - to 1 if you're mean i'm actually a very nice person, so nah
00:31:686 - bland pattern considering the increase in intensity. Might want to sacrifice consistency by converting white line or even white + red line notes to triples ooh, difficult. tried to add some triples where i heard heavier sounds. can technically be played with a 123/567/123/567 motion anyway so doesn't change much.
00:38:609 - was kinda expecting a right to left finger motion for this sound. Doing that complements this 00:38:993 - did this
00:57:840 - 00:59:378 wao this diff raise so that you don't get to the end and fail there and get mad
01:07:840 - chart grace note if you're evil. Adds some flair too if executed with playability. Same case for other piano stuff w/ grace notes. Might want to do it here 01:11:686 btw im not sure if those notes really exist soooooo :xi'll leave them as non-grace for now, see if anyone else raises this
01:56:686 - w0t why quad emphasis! sounds something like a crash here too
01:57:068 - ^ good question.
01:57:452 - cool BG sound, quad pls left it as non-quad to be more consistent with the other patterns
01:57:741 - ^ same
02:01:875 - idk lol v4.0 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4622423 decided to leave this one mostly the same, but shifted one of the quad's notes onto 1 to make that finger do something and changed the note at 02:02:068 - to a triple (567)
02:03:894 - u no quad seems more appropriate as a triple, since the others are too. idt the bg sound is that noticeable when you're actually playing
02:06:683 - could be triple agreed, changed
02:07:068 - hit the quad. hit the quad. Stupid normie referencing trash music. Hit the quad. Hit the quad added a note on 5
02:09:760 - ^ done
02:10:048 - hi there. Undercharted af huh?
02:18:510 - add 3 added this, but removed the 1 from the note before
02:21:106 - sexy nice curves
02:32:068 - spooky changed this to something far more playable
02:33:221 - same case, throw the chords everywhere as above. i realise this one is probably a little less playable but i'd like to leave it for now.
02:35:721 (155721|6) - maybe 3 sure ok, index finger things
02:37:068 (157068|0) - ^ sure
03:27:837 - w0t why quad a mysterious question that might never be explained. (fixed)
03:30:979 - ^ changed to double
03:54:948 - naisu [color=0000FF]i still dont know how to fix this, it's not like i WANT it or anything! b-baka![/color]
04:26:871 - yep. make this all quads and throw the chords all over the place sounds painful, i'll leave this for now
04:31:871 - double done
04:34:756 - ^ done
04:55:237 (295237|1) - to 3 done
Ye, that's my semi-quickie thanks a ton! :D you have no idea how hard it is to find mods for these things


have some stars too th-that's a lot of stars o_o thanks so much, and glad you liked it!! :O
posted
I already test it, it has no problem from playing but lets see on editor from my point viewwww

col=1~7

00:05:147 (5147|6,5147|2) - add more 2 or 1 note? (chord)
00:08:801 (8801|1) - add note? a lot lauder chord
00:20:724 - not wanting to add jack at 7?
00:33:993 (33993|6,33993|5,34282|6,34282|5) - add note at 2
00:34:570 (34570|6,34570|5) - add note at 3
00:35:532 (35532|3) - add more 2 note?
00:37:647 - add to 7
00:46:301 (46301|6,46301|5,46590|5,46590|6) - add note to 1
00:46:878 (46878|6,46878|5) - add note to 300:57:070 (57070|0,57070|1,57199|1,57199|2,57327|3,57327|2,57455|3,57455|4,57583|4,57583|5,57711|5,57711|6) - considering adding more note? kkk


I tried.. it was hard lol
imo this could be harder (for mapping drum stuff) but I realize that will destroy the current structure so nvm zz
also if you have time please take a look at https://osu.ppy.sh/s/416575 ~~ (if this considered as m4m ;;)
good luck!~
posted

ArcherLove wrote:

I already test it, it has no problem from playing but lets see on editor from my point viewwww

col=1~7

00:05:147 (5147|6,5147|2) - add more 2 or 1 note? (chord) done!
00:08:801 (8801|1) - add note? a lot lauder chord added one at 5
00:20:724 - not wanting to add jack at 7? no jacks please D:
00:33:993 (33993|6,33993|5,34282|6,34282|5) - add note at 2 is there a specific reason for this? it kind of throws off the symmetry imo
00:34:570 (34570|6,34570|5) - add note at 3 ^
00:35:532 (35532|3) - add more 2 note? changed to 1 and 2 instead
00:37:647 - add to 7 ok
00:46:301 (46301|6,46301|5,46590|5,46590|6) - add note to 1 muh symmetry D:
00:46:878 (46878|6,46878|5) - add note to 300:57:070 ^(57070|0,57070|1,57199|1,57199|2,57327|3,57327|2,57455|3,57455|4,57583|4,57583|5,57711|5,57711|6) - considering adding more note? kkk lol what a sadist. i think it's q hard already hahaha


I tried.. it was hard lol
imo this could be harder (for mapping drum stuff) but I realize that will destroy the current structure so nvm zz
also if you have time please take a look at https://osu.ppy.sh/s/416575 ~~ (if this considered as m4m ;;)
good luck!~
Thanks for the mod and the star! I'll look at over the top sometime soon, but I'm bad at modding LNs D:
posted
Hello there..... M4M request!.....I'm still beginner for modding and i hope you like my mod

7k column l 1 l 2 l 3 l 4 l 5 l 6 l 7 l
green-if you see that color, my suggestions :D
red- if you see that color, note/reminder :D

00:15:532 (15532|4,15596|5,15660|6) - Ctrl + G
00:15:532 - add one note at column 5
00:15:917 (15917|6,15981|5,16045|4) - Ctrl + G
00:15:917 - add one note at column 7
02:03:606 - add one note at column 5
posted

Shiro-neechan wrote:

Hello there..... M4M request!.....I'm still beginner for modding and i hope you like my mod

7k column l 1 l 2 l 3 l 4 l 5 l 6 l 7 l
green-if you see that color, my suggestions :D
red- if you see that color, note/reminder :D

00:15:532 (15532|4,15596|5,15660|6) - Ctrl + G
00:15:532 - add one note at column 5
00:15:917 (15917|6,15981|5,16045|4) - Ctrl + G
00:15:917 - add one note at column 7
these suggestions mess up the flow of that area, i'd prefer playability (and symmetry) over more minor technical aspects.
02:03:606 - add one note at column 5
i instead rearranged the notes so that one note is indeed added at the appropriate tick. thanks for pointing that out.
thanks for the mod! i'll give kd now, but hopefully it isn't denied x_x
posted
yo this is good shit

As people have already pointed out earlier, this map (still) suffers from too much consistency (lol wtf never thought I'd say this one day). I might drop a mod - actually, more like suggestions, because the pattern structure is already of high quality to me. I'd rather talk about the map on IRC though, so poke me if you want us to discuss your map together sometime. c:
posted
just sightseeing. no kd
I kinda think that certain places are "empty", usually because 1/4 doublestreams are suddenly "pausing" for a moment and stops the enjoyment of the hand somehow. maybe add one note after each shortdoublestreams could fix it. I know that you are following mostly the piano, but feel free to think about it. this is totally a thought and suggestion. I dont force you to change it. examples:
00:06:301 - 00:18:609 - 00:20:917 - 00:22:455 -
posted

AncuL wrote:

just sightseeing. no kd
I kinda think that certain places are "empty", usually because 1/4 doublestreams are suddenly "pausing" for a moment and stops the enjoyment of the hand somehow. maybe add one note after each shortdoublestreams could fix it. I know that you are following mostly the piano, but feel free to think about it. this is totally a thought and suggestion. I dont force you to change it. examples:
00:06:301 - 00:18:609 - 00:20:917 - 00:22:455 -
Hey, thanks for the feedback!
I totally agree with that tbh, haha. Originally those parts did indeed have some notes in them, however I was told that the whole map seemed to fuse into one long doublestream, which I couldn't argue with. I freed up some spots in between the streams to try to fix this, but I'm not sure if it was worth it either way, haha.

On another note, I had part 1 of an irc mod with PyaKura, and have updated the map with his suggestions \:D/
posted
holyshit, this is good
posted
just other small things. but you might want to change the preview point to 01:57:068 - as it is the "start of the kiai part" for piano
posted
Completely hitsounded and updated with everyone's suggestions! I actually have no idea how the BN system works but I asked Kuo Kyoka to BN check this, maybe it'll happen in a while. See you around then~

edit: Kuo Kyoka is busy. Asked DE-CADE instead. >_>
edit2: now it's up to Evening. good luck me.
posted
i support this map.
please ranked soon!!
posted
22:16 Level 51: whenever you're ready? we can do irc mod
22:17 pporse: yes im ready! gogo
22:18 Level 51: :D ok
22:23 pporse: 00:34:955 (34955|4,35051|2,35147|4,35243|2,35340|4,35436|2) - how about this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5335312
22:23 Level 51: ah i think you said that last time
22:23 Level 51: i'll change it
22:23 pporse: okk
22:24 pporse: 00:47:263 (47263|4,47359|2,47455|4,47551|2,47647|4,47743|2) - dont forget this part
22:25 Level 51: mhm
22:27 pporse: 00:57:070 (57070|3,57199|3,57327|3,57455|3,57583|3,57711|3,57840|3) - actually this structure is really hard pattern.
22:28 Level 51: ah yeah
22:28 Level 51: it was evening's suggestion
22:28 pporse: 00:57:455 (57455|3) - move to 5th column in order to reduce the pressure of thumb
22:28 Level 51: but that breaks the structure :s
22:28 pporse: if you change it,
22:29 Level 51: i think it's easier with thumb actually
22:29 pporse: yea
22:30 pporse: but it's just suggestion :3
22:30 Level 51: yea :d
22:32 pporse: 01:00:788 (60788|5,60852|6) - misplaced? i'm not sure that it is the correct position
22:32 Level 51: hm you're correct
22:32 Level 51: fixing that
22:38 pporse: 01:25:147 (85147|6,85147|4,85211|3,85275|2,85340|1,85340|5,85436|4,85436|2,85436|0) - hmm..i think it is not suited.
22:38 pporse: i hope that you focus on piano sound at 01:25:243 -
22:39 Level 51: as in?
22:39 Level 51: so just 3 chords instead of that?
22:41 Level 51: changed to http://puu.sh/pk2dl/97f3993ba0.png
22:43 pporse: well, how about this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5335432 i think 2-jack pattern is suited in this part
22:45 Level 51: yeah that's pretty good
22:45 Level 51: done that
22:46 pporse: and..
22:46 pporse: 01:24:811 - there is drum sound in 1/8 snap
22:46 pporse: you can add notes
22:47 Level 51: i think it would make it too crowded
22:47 Level 51: i did hear that though
22:48 pporse: and 01:24:955 (84955|1,84955|2,85019|5,85019|4,85083|2,85083|0) - i think it should be located in 1/8 snap
22:48 pporse: it is not 1/6 snap (i guess)
22:49 Level 51: im hearing 1/6
22:50 pporse: hmm then keep it. actually i cannot believe my ear :p lol
22:51 Level 51: lol
22:51 pporse: 01:32:647 (92647|0,92711|1,92775|2,92840|3,92840|4,92904|5,92968|6) - this piano part is started at 01:32:455 -
22:52 Level 51: does it?
22:52 Level 51: oh well ill just add
22:52 Level 51: if it's wrong evening can remove
22:52 pporse: yea
22:52 pporse: i believe evening
22:52 pporse: hue
22:53 Level 51: lol
22:55 pporse: 01:38:417 (98417|5,98417|1,98609|3,98609|6) - hmm you used 2-chords on this timing.
22:56 Level 51: oh is that wrong?
22:56 pporse: but i think you should use 2-chords on 01:38:513 - 01:38:705 -
22:56 Level 51: it might be haha
22:56 Level 51: yeah agree
22:57 pporse: 01:44:570 (104570|6,104570|3,104763|2,104763|5) - same as before
22:57 Level 51: changed the whole section a bit
22:57 Level 51: mhm ok
22:59 pporse: 02:08:862 (128862|4,128894|2,128926|3,128991|0,128991|5,129055|1,129087|4,129119|2,129183|3,129183|6,129247|5,129279|1,129311|4) -
22:59 pporse: i guess it is 1/8 snap
23:01 Level 51: sounds more like 1/6 to me actually
23:01 Level 51: but i can hear a bit of 1/8
23:01 Level 51: very strange :S
23:02 pporse: we believe evening
23:02 pporse: huehue
23:03 Level 51: yeah ill ask evening haha
23:03 pporse: ask it to him when you're bn-check
23:03 Level 51: yeah
23:04 pporse: 02:11:202 (131202|3,131202|5) - hmm delete one note and add one note at 02:11:394 -
23:04 pporse: i think you should use 2chords at 02:11:394 -
23:04 Level 51: hm
23:05 Level 51: actually i think 02:11:394 - is only piano
23:05 Level 51: whereas 02:11:202 - has some drum
23:07 Level 51: haha there's no need to be so careful, bn check will pick up most of this~
23:07 pporse: this song is based on piano sound. all main sound is piano. so i think that it is better to use chord at piano timing
23:08 Level 51: hm
23:08 Level 51: well 02:11:202 - also has piano so :/
23:09 pporse: uh..there is no piano sound
23:09 Level 51: uh
23:10 Level 51: oh
23:11 Level 51: ok
23:11 Level 51: changed to http://puu.sh/pk3Np/b690ddcb5d.jpg
23:11 Level 51: hang on i need to change computers
23:11 Level 51: :s
23:12 pporse: ok
23:14 Level 51: hi
23:14 Level 51: i changed computer
23:15 pporse: yup
23:16 Level 51: i hope my internet connection is fine :s
23:17 pporse: 02:44:471 - add note? there is piano sound
23:19 Level 51: ok i'm ready!
23:20 pporse: 02:44:471 - add note? i guess there is piano sound :3
23:22 Level 51: oh
23:23 Level 51: done
23:23 pporse: 04:25:044 - hmm there is sound but you did not use note. is it your intention? :3
23:25 pporse: i think it is better to use note in there
23:28 Level 51: oh i missed that
23:29 Level 51: added
23:30 pporse: and 04:24:660 (264660|4,264660|1) - there is no synth sound.
23:30 Level 51: removed, and repositioned the stuff around it :D
23:31 pporse: ok :D
23:34 pporse: 05:04:275 (304275|5,304275|6,304371|5,304371|6) - 05:04:371 (304371|5,304371|6) - delete? there is no piano sound
23:34 Level 51: i hear one :s
23:36 pporse: hmm ok then ignore it :3 actually im not sure that
23:37 Level 51: im not sure either :3 haha
23:39 pporse: ok! i could not find any more issues
23:39 Level 51: ok! thanks so much!
23:39 Level 51: do you have the log? you can post it on the thread :D
23:39 pporse: ok i'll post it


i hope that my mod is helpful for you :)

good luck :3
posted
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* is mostly general statements and I use this to denote important mods to check through over again for myself

00:24:186 (24186|5,24186|2) - Personally think you can find a way to accent this instrument as the hat after this piano chord is the same note count

00:36:590 - Put a note (for hammer) on 5 to be consistent with the hammers here

00:38:032 (38032|0) - Suggesting to move to the right by 1 since this piano sequence here isn't actually a trill so i'm suggesting something to avoid that

* 00:45:532 (45532|1) - Taking note that this section (from this timeframe forwards) is a repeat of the previous section (from this timeframe backwards), this section is slightly more intense with the introduction with more instrumentals (drums in particular), so I'm suggesting to beef up the note density/layering here by throwing extra notes on more prominent drums
00:45:917 (45917|2) - Just an example, I felt that this was rather underemphasized due to the heavy kick and clap in the music here

00:57:840 - Rather understandable if you can't fit this idea in but:
Felt that it'd be great if you can somehow map in piano graces on (for example): 00:59:378 (59378|5,59955|3,60724|3) - 01:03:128 (63128|4) - and so on

01:05:436 (65436|5) - Think it's better if you shift this down by 1/4, this is to emphasize the sound there and prevent chart from being way too smooth when there are accents in the music

01:10:788 (70788|4) - Felt that it plays better on column 7, but then again this section is slightly mindblockable since you can't sweep 4567 for 01:11:109 (71109|4,71205|5,71237|3,71301|6) - so idk what you plan to do

01:24:859 (84859|5) - Consider making this a 3 note chord for a piano chord here

* 01:27:840 (87840|6,87840|3,87904|5,87936|2,87968|4,88032|3,88032|0,88096|1,88128|4,88160|2) - Tons of ghost notes here, might want to rethink patterning here

* 01:30:532 (90532|2) - The 1/6 stream starts from here actually, i guess you can repattern this

* 01:32:455 (92455|6,94570|6) - Personally quite dislike this section due to linearity of layering and pretty much the lack of layering towards the drum here, I would suggest something like:

It's a rough pattern but shows the idea of how you can do a double 1/6 stream layer here instead of a 1-off piano layer

01:37:263 (97263|5,97263|4,97327|1,97327|2,97391|4,97391|5,97455|6,97455|0,97455|3) - Think that you can differentiate the different instrument used here by making it:


* 01:41:974 (101974|2,102070|3) - Not sure if you wanna map this 1/8 in

01:45:340 (105340|6,105404|5,105468|4,105532|3) - Quite sure this is 1/8

01:46:878 (106878|4,106878|1,106974|5,106974|2,107070|3,107070|6,107070|0,107167|4,107167|1,107167|5,107263|3,107263|6,107263|2,107359|1,107359|5,107455|2,107455|3,107455|4,107455|0) - Chord here seem to emphasize on the wrong instrument? Especially with 01:47:455 (107455|2,107455|3,107455|0,107455|4) - ,a 4 note chord here doesn't feel right as it's comparitively softer

01:50:051 (110051|3) - You missed a chord here

01:50:243 (110243|5) - Don't see a reason for a chord

01:52:455 (112455|4) - Either remove this or map the 1/4 before it that is blank, they are both hats and I'm not sure why you missed that one out and mapped this in

01:54:763 (114763|2,114763|4) - Emphasize the last chord somehow since it's stronger with the drum
* 01:54:090 (114090|2,114090|5,114186|4,114186|1,114282|3,114282|0,114378|4,114378|1,114474|5,114474|2,114570|3,114570|6,114667|1,114667|5) - Adding onto that, you can probably make this denser as it's comparatively more intense than the previous piano section

01:54:955 (114955|6,115147|4) - Sounds like a chord, if it is actually a chord then make the thing a chord i guess

01:56:301 (116301|4,116301|2) - Might want to make this a 3 note chord since there's a kick here and it's quite notice-able

* 02:01:298 (121298|0,121298|6,121394|2,121587|4,121587|5,121587|0,121587|6) - Personally think these sounds can be more emphasized through hammering and what not

02:08:221 (128221|2,128221|5) - Suggesting a 3 note chord to differentiate itself from other chords here

* 02:08:798 (128798|6) - Piano is 1/8 here actually, would be best if you can do that but 1/6 would be arguably ok if you can't think of anything

02:17:548 (137548|4) - Think you can emphasize this a bit more

02:20:112 (140112|4,140112|5,140176|1,140176|2,140241|5,140241|6) - Quite sure these are 1/12 early, shift them 1/12 later (redundance for clarification)

* 02:21:106 (141106|6) - Piano is 1/8 again, if you wanna restructure

* 02:27:773 (147773|2,147837|1,147837|0,147837|6,147837|5) - Would be *really* great if you can grace this piano to the right (there are more snaps here btw, approximation is allowed here since it's not that audible of a snap)

* 02:34:760 (154760|6,154760|5,154856|4,154856|3,154952|0,154952|1,155048|2,155048|3,155144|6,155144|5,155241|3,155241|4,155337|0,155337|1,155433|2,155433|3,155529|5,155529|4,155529|6) - There are variety of instruments here, I'm quite sure a non-linear/non-repeating pattern would be better

02:37:644 (157644|0,157709|2,157773|4) - This should be 1/8

02:40:000 (160000|1,160048|2,160096|3) - Think this is 1/6 and 02:40:289 (160289|2) - this is probably a ghost note

* 02:41:394 (161394|5,161491|3,161491|2) - Doesn't really make sense when you map this drum instrument then totally ignore it after 02:41:875 (161875|4,161875|5) - , not sure what you're planning here basically

02:43:221 (163221|0,163221|6,163221|2) - Pretty sure this can be heavier than a 3 note chord

02:44:712 (164712|6) - Shift this to the above 1/12

02:44:888 (164888|2) - Shift this to the below 1/16

02:45:209 (165209|1) - Shift this to the above 1/16

02:51:539 (171539|5) - Shift this to the below 1/12

02:51:747 (171747|4) - Shift this to the below 1/16

02:52:837 (172837|3) - Shift this to the below 1/16

02:53:093 (173093|3) - Shift this to the below 1/12

02:53:446 (173446|1) - Shift this to the above 1/16

02:53:734 (173734|4) - Shift this to the below 1/16

02:54:151 (174151|3) - Shift this to the above 1/16

02:54:343 (174343|2) - Shift this to the below 1/16

02:56:683 (176683|2,176779|4) - Think you can CTRL+H this for the hammer effect

02:57:356 (177356|4,177741|2,178125|4) - Similarly

02:58:318 (178318|2,178414|4,178510|6) - Think you can shift all of this to the left by 1 since these piano notes are on different pitch within this section

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03:12:644 (192644|5,192644|2) - Piano starts 1/4 earlier here, you might want to take note of that

03:21:491 (201491|6,201683|5) - Not sure if you want to but you can probably squeeze in this 1/6 piano here

03:22:548 (202548|2,202741|1,202933|0,203125|2) - There is also a piano sequence that goes up in pitch here, you can probably do a stair-to-the-right pattern here for the left hand

03:29:369 (209369|4,209369|5,209369|3) - The chord here starts on the next measure line actually (on the red line)

03:29:691 (209691|4) - think you missed a piano thing here

03:29:991 (209991|0,210041|1,210091|2) - Suggesting a 1/12, the grace sounds faster than a 1/8

03:35:264 (215264|5,215332|6,215400|4) - Shift this to the left by 1 column, quite sure the 2nd note is of the same pitch as 03:35:060 (215060|5) -

03:37:022 (217022|5) - Think this is a 1/8 grace

03:37:566 - Snaps should be as follows (highlighted notes are the only ones shifted, the 2nd note there is on 1/12:



* 03:38:944 - Suggesting something like this since the last 2 beats there is a skip/grace beat so it's better to kind of separate both of them instead of doing them as a chord



03:46:487 - Taking note of the accents in the piano here, you can potentially break the stream to do a chord pattern here just to map to them:



** 03:55:269 (235269|2,235301|1,235333|0,235397|1) - The anchor here on column 2 is rather hard to execute, 03:56:102 (236102|6) - the anchor on 6 here is also hard to execute, quite a big change but i suggest:



03:56:935 (236935|0,237064|1,237192|2) - Not too sure why are they 1/6 lagging behind those drum hits

04:05:141 (245141|0,245205|1,245269|2) - This is 1/8, not sure if you plan to change it however

* 04:13:987 (253987|3,253987|0,254083|1,254083|5,254179|2,254275|3,254371|4,254468|5,254564|2,254564|0,254564|6) - Personally think that you can do a more grand/intense/strong build up here:
Not too sure if you're a fan of big chord hammers but this is one of many ways you can do it:



04:33:506 (273506|3) - Think this can be a 2 note chord considering how you layered this part

04:35:237 (275237|5) - and this can be 3

04:42:737 (282737|1) - Suggesting to move up by 1/4 because 1) it's a ghosty 2) for drum thing

04:55:044 (295044|4,295044|1) - Think you can shift these upwards, same reason as above coincidentally

* 04:56:294 (296294|1,296294|2,296487|5,296487|4,296583|2,296679|1,296775|4,296775|5,296871|3,296968|2,297064|1,297064|0) - Think you can structure this like:



** 05:06:679 (306679|1,306679|2,306679|0,306968|0,306968|2,306968|1,307064|2,307064|0,307064|1,307352|1,307352|2,307352|0,307641|0,307641|2,307641|1,307737|1,307737|0,307737|2) - eeeh i can only hear notes on:



** 05:13:025 - the pattern here is... just really hard to execute well, i think this will work better:


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00:24:186 (24186|5,24186|2) - Personally think you can find a way to accent this instrument as the hat after this piano chord is the same note count added a note on 7

00:36:590 - Put a note (for hammer) on 5 to be consistent with the hammers here I don't hear anything there, that bit sounds distinctly different from the parts where there are actually hammers?

00:38:032 (38032|0) - Suggesting to move to the right by 1 since this piano sequence here isn't actually a trill so i'm suggesting something to avoid that Instead changed this from [1][3][1][3] to [1][3][2][1]

* 00:45:532 (45532|1) - Taking note that this section (from this timeframe forwards) is a repeat of the previous section (from this timeframe backwards), this section is slightly more intense with the introduction with more instrumentals (drums in particular), so I'm suggesting to beef up the note density/layering here by throwing extra notes on more prominent drums
00:45:917 (45917|2) - Just an example, I felt that this was rather underemphasized due to the heavy kick and clap in the music here I heavily value the symmetry of that section but I can see where you're coming from. So I tried to build a somewhat symmetrical pattern which fits the bill: http://puu.sh/pl8KS/346ff72c9f.jpg

00:57:840 - Rather understandable if you can't fit this idea in but:
Felt that it'd be great if you can somehow map in piano graces on (for example): 00:59:378 (59378|5,59955|3,60724|3) - 01:03:128 (63128|4) - and so on The reason I didn't map graces in this map is because then for the sake of consistency I'd have to apply them across all the graces I found, which can get kind of annoying both for me and the player. Also in cases such as this one it gets rather dense :S I'd rather leave them out

01:05:436 (65436|5) - Think it's better if you shift this down by 1/4, this is to emphasize the sound there and prevent chart from being way too smooth when there are accents in the music Assuming you meant shift backwards (earlier on the timeline). If so, done.

01:10:788 (70788|4) - Felt that it plays better on column 7, but then again this section is slightly mindblockable since you can't sweep 4567 for 01:11:109 (71109|4,71205|5,71237|3,71301|6) - so idk what you plan to do Made the first change, and deleted the notes at 01:11:173 (71173|2,71237|3) - to make the section more comfortable.

01:24:859 (84859|5) - Consider making this a 3 note chord for a piano chord here Added on 4

* 01:27:840 (87840|6,87840|3,87904|5,87936|2,87968|4,88032|3,88032|0,88096|1,88128|4,88160|2) - Tons of ghost notes here, might want to rethink patterning here Changed to this: http://puu.sh/pl5ry/62e8db8977.jpg . Relevant notes highlighted. Dunno how this place for a space bar user but I imagine it's fine.

* 01:30:532 (90532|2) - The 1/6 stream starts from here actually, i guess you can repattern this Attempted to repattern, hope this is ok http://puu.sh/pl8kH/00d7f167ac.jpg

* 01:32:455 (92455|6,94570|6) - Personally quite dislike this section due to linearity of layering and pretty much the lack of layering towards the drum here, I would suggest something like:

It's a rough pattern but shows the idea of how you can do a double 1/6 stream layer here instead of a 1-off piano layer Changed to this: http://puu.sh/pl79e/825cf08a5c.jpg

01:37:263 (97263|5,97263|4,97327|1,97327|2,97391|4,97391|5,97455|6,97455|0,97455|3) - Think that you can differentiate the different instrument used here by making it:
Done

* 01:41:974 (101974|2,102070|3) - Not sure if you wanna map this 1/8 in Added

01:45:340 (105340|6,105404|5,105468|4,105532|3) - Quite sure this is 1/8 Changed to 1/8

01:46:878 (106878|4,106878|1,106974|5,106974|2,107070|3,107070|6,107070|0,107167|4,107167|1,107167|5,107263|3,107263|6,107263|2,107359|1,107359|5,107455|2,107455|3,107455|4,107455|0) - Chord here seem to emphasize on the wrong instrument? Especially with 01:47:455 (107455|2,107455|3,107455|0,107455|4) - ,a 4 note chord here doesn't feel right as it's comparitively softer Fixed! Here's the updated pattern http://puu.sh/pl7b2/4467201a20.jpg

01:50:051 (110051|3) - You missed a chord here Added

01:50:243 (110243|5) - Don't see a reason for a chord Fixed

01:52:455 (112455|4) - Either remove this or map the 1/4 before it that is blank, they are both hats and I'm not sure why you missed that one out and mapped this in Mapped the previous one in

01:54:763 (114763|2,114763|4) - Emphasize the last chord somehow since it's stronger with the drum Changed to a 3-chord
* 01:54:090 (114090|2,114090|5,114186|4,114186|1,114282|3,114282|0,114378|4,114378|1,114474|5,114474|2,114570|3,114570|6,114667|1,114667|5) - Adding onto that, you can probably make this denser as it's comparatively more intense than the previous piano section Changed to a 3-2-3-2 pattern

01:54:955 (114955|6,115147|4) - Sounds like a chord, if it is actually a chord then make the thing a chord i guess Chorded

01:56:301 (116301|4,116301|2) - Might want to make this a 3 note chord since there's a kick here and it's quite notice-able Changed to a [246]
* 02:01:298 (121298|0,121298|6,121394|2,121587|4,121587|5,121587|0,121587|6) - Personally think these sounds can be more emphasized through hammering and what not Respectfully disagree. Don't think the first sound needs much emphasis, and the second sound feels emphasised enough to me due to the outward sweep along [3][2][1].

02:08:221 (128221|2,128221|5) - Suggesting a 3 note chord to differentiate itself from other chords here Added a note on 7

* 02:08:798 (128798|6) - Piano is 1/8 here actually, would be best if you can do that but 1/6 would be arguably ok if you can't think of anything If 1/6 is ok I'd like to stick with that, plays better imo

02:17:548 (137548|4) - Think you can emphasize this a bit more Changed to a 2-note chord on [67] with the next two notes on [5][4]

02:20:112 (140112|4,140112|5,140176|1,140176|2,140241|5,140241|6) - Quite sure these are 1/12 early, shift them 1/12 later (redundance for clarification) Done, thanks for pointing that out, it was bugging me

* 02:21:106 (141106|6) - Piano is 1/8 again, if you wanna restructure Would rather not

* 02:27:773 (147773|2,147837|1,147837|0,147837|6,147837|5) - Would be *really* great if you can grace this piano to the right (there are more snaps here btw, approximation is allowed here since it's not that audible of a snap) Help how do I grace this :S

* 02:34:760 (154760|6,154760|5,154856|4,154856|3,154952|0,154952|1,155048|2,155048|3,155144|6,155144|5,155241|3,155241|4,155337|0,155337|1,155433|2,155433|3,155529|5,155529|4,155529|6) - There are variety of instruments here, I'm quite sure a non-linear/non-repeating pattern would be better Changed to http://puu.sh/pl7Vw/173f73f633.jpg

02:37:644 (157644|0,157709|2,157773|4) - This should be 1/8 Fixed

02:40:000 (160000|1,160048|2,160096|3) - Think this is 1/6 and 02:40:289 (160289|2) - this is probably a ghost note Fixed both

* 02:41:394 (161394|5,161491|3,161491|2) - Doesn't really make sense when you map this drum instrument then totally ignore it after 02:41:875 (161875|4,161875|5) - , not sure what you're planning here basically The chord is for the soft piano in the background, since I'm only mapping to the piano in that entire section. The single is intended as a ghost note to ease the transition from high density -> low density, but I can delete the single (and all the other ghosts in that section) if needed.

02:43:221 (163221|0,163221|6,163221|2) - Pretty sure this can be heavier than a 3 note chord Added a note

02:44:712 (164712|6) - Shift this to the above 1/12 Done all of these v

02:44:888 (164888|2) - Shift this to the below 1/16

02:45:209 (165209|1) - Shift this to the above 1/16

02:51:539 (171539|5) - Shift this to the below 1/12

02:51:747 (171747|4) - Shift this to the below 1/16 Assuming you mean the blue line here.

02:52:837 (172837|3) - Shift this to the below 1/16 That's already on a 1/16, so I assumed you meant to move it back one line to a yellow line.

02:53:093 (173093|3) - Shift this to the below 1/12 Already on a 1/12, so I assume I need to go back one more?

02:53:446 (173446|1) - Shift this to the above 1/16

02:53:734 (173734|4) - Shift this to the below 1/16

02:54:151 (174151|3) - Shift this to the above 1/16

02:54:343 (174343|2) - Shift this to the below 1/16 Done all of these ^

02:56:683 (176683|2,176779|4) - Think you can CTRL+H this for the hammer effect Nice, done

02:57:356 (177356|4,177741|2,178125|4) - Similarly Also nice, done

02:58:318 (178318|2,178414|4,178510|6) - Think you can shift all of this to the left by 1 since these piano notes are on different pitch within this section Shifted accordingly

WILL CONTINUE LATER
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03:12:644 (192644|5,192644|2) - Piano starts 1/4 earlier here, you might want to take note of that added a chord just before

03:21:491 (201491|6,201683|5) - Not sure if you want to but you can probably squeeze in this 1/6 piano here added on [4][5]

03:22:548 (202548|2,202741|1,202933|0,203125|2) - There is also a piano sequence that goes up in pitch here, you can probably do a stair-to-the-right pattern here for the left hand added

03:29:369 (209369|4,209369|5,209369|3) - The chord here starts on the next measure line actually (on the red line) fixed

03:29:691 (209691|4) - think you missed a piano thing here changed that first note to a chord

03:29:991 (209991|0,210041|1,210091|2) - Suggesting a 1/12, the grace sounds faster than a 1/8 yeah sounds about right. fixed

03:35:264 (215264|5,215332|6,215400|4) - Shift this to the left by 1 column, quite sure the 2nd note is of the same pitch as 03:35:060 (215060|5) - shifted

03:37:022 (217022|5) - Think this is a 1/8 grace changed indeed to 1/8

03:37:566 - Snaps should be as follows (highlighted notes are the only ones shifted, the 2nd note there is on 1/12:

wow o_o thanks man, i'm bad at snaps

* 03:38:944 - Suggesting something like this since the last 2 beats there is a skip/grace beat so it's better to kind of separate both of them instead of doing them as a chord

that looks like a cool pattern, fixed

03:46:487 - Taking note of the accents in the piano here, you can potentially break the stream to do a chord pattern here just to map to them:

looks good!

** 03:55:269 (235269|2,235301|1,235333|0,235397|1) - The anchor here on column 2 is rather hard to execute, 03:56:102 (236102|6) - the anchor on 6 here is also hard to execute, quite a big change but i suggest:

oof. yeah agree that that pattern is kinda dumb, changed to your suggestion since it's about the best i'll get

03:56:935 (236935|0,237064|1,237192|2) - Not too sure why are they 1/6 lagging behind those drum hits oops, fixed.

04:05:141 (245141|0,245205|1,245269|2) - This is 1/8, not sure if you plan to change it however did that

* 04:13:987 (253987|3,253987|0,254083|1,254083|5,254179|2,254275|3,254371|4,254468|5,254564|2,254564|0,254564|6) - Personally think that you can do a more grand/intense/strong build up here:
Not too sure if you're a fan of big chord hammers but this is one of many ways you can do it:

the [367] hammer was a bit awkward for me personally so I changed it to a simple [56] hammer: http://puu.sh/pmviy/a82fd3cba7.jpg

04:33:506 (273506|3) - Think this can be a 2 note chord considering how you layered this part added

04:35:237 (275237|5) - and this can be 3 added also

04:42:737 (282737|1) - Suggesting to move up by 1/4 because 1) it's a ghosty 2) for drum thing did

04:55:044 (295044|4,295044|1) - Think you can shift these upwards, same reason as above coincidentally did also coincidentally

* 04:56:294 (296294|1,296294|2,296487|5,296487|4,296583|2,296679|1,296775|4,296775|5,296871|3,296968|2,297064|1,297064|0) - Think you can structure this like:

cooL

** 05:06:679 (306679|1,306679|2,306679|0,306968|0,306968|2,306968|1,307064|2,307064|0,307064|1,307352|1,307352|2,307352|0,307641|0,307641|2,307641|1,307737|1,307737|0,307737|2) - eeeh i can only hear notes on:

discussed with you on discord :D

** 05:13:025 - the pattern here is... just really hard to execute well, i think this will work better:

agreed and fixed!
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