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Sta feat.b - Argent Symmetry

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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, June 18, 2016 at 10:04:20 PM

Artist: Sta feat.b
Title: Argent Symmetry
Source: Maimai PiNK
Tags: asymmetry アシンメトリー sega bun rtyzen estellia-
BPM: 172
Filesize: 19315kb
Play Time: 02:10
Difficulties Available:
  1. Advanced (3.56 stars, 354 notes)
  2. Easy (1.43 stars, 116 notes)
  3. estellia-'s Basic (1.83 stars, 177 notes)
  4. Master (5.38 stars, 686 notes)
  5. Rtyzen's Expert (4.85 stars, 560 notes)
Download: Sta feat.b - Argent Symmetry
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screw spread tbh

estellia's Basic by estellia-
Rtyzen's Expert by Rtyzen
emilia
free kds inc

mod
2015-12-28 00:35 jcjc: then teach me how to map easy difficulties :(
2015-12-28 00:36 estellia-: um
2015-12-28 00:36 estellia-: turn on DS
2015-12-28 00:36 estellia-: \make SV ~1.0
2015-12-28 00:36 estellia-: map O N LY in 1/2
2015-12-28 00:36 estellia-: then it'll be piss easy xd
2015-12-28 00:36 jcjc: whoops
2015-12-28 00:37 jcjc: the song that im trying to map
2015-12-28 00:37 jcjc: cannot use 1/2
2015-12-28 00:37 estellia-: huh
2015-12-28 00:37 estellia-: what are you using
2015-12-28 00:37 jcjc: i mean
2015-12-28 00:37 jcjc: i need 3/4
2015-12-28 00:37 estellia-: no you dont
2015-12-28 00:37 jcjc: for the first part
2015-12-28 00:37 estellia-: N O Y O U D O N T
2015-12-28 00:37 estellia-: thats the r 0 0 ls
2015-12-28 00:37 jcjc: wat
2015-12-28 00:37 jcjc: wat
2015-12-28 00:37 jcjc: wat
2015-12-28 00:37 estellia-: play by the r 0 0 l s
2015-12-28 00:37 jcjc: wat
2015-12-28 00:37 estellia-: br u t h a
2015-12-28 00:38 jcjc: you mean i can't do
2015-12-28 00:38 jcjc: http://puu.sh/mah7W.jpg
2015-12-28 00:38 estellia-: nah jokes you can
2015-12-28 00:38 jcjc: dude nice
2015-12-28 00:38 estellia-: just try not to basically
2015-12-28 00:39 jcjc: i was about to give up on mapping easy difficulties for the 9235754745345th time
2015-12-28 00:39 estellia-: J AH HA HAHA
2015-12-28 00:39 estellia-: dont even bother mapping easies
2015-12-28 00:39 estellia-: just let someone else do it xd
2015-12-28 00:40 jcjc: wow ok
2015-12-28 00:40 jcjc: im trying to map a scrub normal diff
2015-12-28 00:40 jcjc: and failing as always
2015-12-28 00:41 estellia-: oh if its normal its more flexible
2015-12-28 00:41 estellia-: just try to map all drum beats
2015-12-28 00:41 estellia-: and not make note density too high
2015-12-28 00:41 estellia-: thats it
2015-12-28 00:41 estellia-: also ur map looks cool xd
2015-12-28 00:41 jcjc: looks cool but plays like shit :O
2015-12-28 00:41 estellia-: doubt it
2015-12-28 00:41 estellia-: your maps are always very fun to play
2015-12-28 12:47 jcjc: opps i updated the map lol
2015-12-28 12:47 estellia-: nice map nice map
2015-12-28 12:47 jcjc: :O
2015-12-28 12:47 jcjc: thanks
2015-12-28 12:50 estellia-: l 0 LZ
2015-12-28 12:50 estellia-: fuck alternating srsly
2015-12-28 12:50 jcjc: LOL
2015-12-28 12:50 jcjc: alternate for what
2015-12-28 12:51 estellia-: i want to be pro alternator :c
2015-12-28 12:51 estellia-: like axarious :c
2015-12-28 12:51 jcjc: O
2015-12-28 12:51 estellia-: so i can fc gangsta dt :cccccccccccccccccccccc
2015-12-28 12:51 jcjc: LOL
2015-12-28 12:51 estellia-: IM ANGRY AT MYSELF >: c cccccccccccc
2015-12-28 14:13 jcjc: halp
2015-12-28 14:13 jcjc: is my normal ok
2015-12-28 14:30 estellia-: huh
2015-12-28 14:30 estellia-: link?
2015-12-28 14:30 jcjc: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/864767 Sta feat.b - Argent Symmetry [Normal]]
2015-12-28 14:42 estellia-: JCJC
2015-12-28 14:42 estellia-: WJHAT HT EUFFKCK
2015-12-28 14:42 estellia-: I MISREAD
2015-12-28 14:42 estellia-: 00:13:150 (1,1) -
2015-12-28 14:42 jcjc: ooooo
2015-12-28 14:42 jcjc: LOLLLLL
2015-12-28 14:42 estellia-: 00:18:382 (1) - MISREAD
2015-12-28 14:42 estellia-: dude pls kep DS on constantly ;w;;;
2015-12-28 14:43 estellia-: also double reverse not fun
2015-12-28 14:43 jcjc: i told you i can't map easy difficulties D:
2015-12-28 14:43 estellia-: 00:37:917 (3,4) - stack kk k k s not ideal in normil
2015-12-28 14:44 estellia-: 00:45:417 (2) - sam3
2015-12-28 14:44 estellia-: 00:53:615 (1,2,3,4) - this is v cool btw
2015-12-28 14:45 estellia-: 01:30:068 (2) -
2015-12-28 14:47 estellia-: pls fix all double reverse and fix DS thanks
2015-12-28 14:47 jcjc: yea ok
DeletedUser_1574070
hi

d u choose combocolors?

  • extra
  1. 00:42:975 (1) - i think u don't need to nc here
  2. 00:43:673 (1) - same
  3. 00:46:638 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - we can make this more aesthetic
  4. 00:56:405 (1,2,3,4,5) - hard to see for me so i've changed this pattern little bit http://puu.sh/mdF3L/24ddd20a99.jpg anyway setting those apart can make playability better imo
  5. 01:20:998 (1) - remove nc
  6. 01:25:708 (1,2,3) - making spacing lower can make more impact imo
  7. 01:28:498 (1,1,1,1) - try like this http://puu.sh/mdFal/31f393b0a8.jpg
  8. 01:35:301 (6,1) - space more
  9. 01:49:080 (1) - is that 1/16? i have no idea but some guys who take the sound perfectly might say something if thats not 1/16
  10. 02:10:126 (1) - a custom hitsound can make this have more impact


  • Insane

    ask any bn or qat for ds
  1. 00:13:498 (4,7,10) - how bout nc
  2. 00:43:324 (1,1) - same
  3. 01:31:987 (3) - 1/4 comes to me more than 1/3
  4. 01:43:150 (5) - nc
  5. 01:53:615 (1,1) - same

  • Hard
  1. 02:06:173 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - space more and nc 02:06:696 (2) -

  • Easy
  1. 00:13:150 (2) - how about this http://puu.sh/mepRJ/8d30b534d4.jpg
  2. 02:07:568 (3) - nc

gl
Topic Starter
jcjc

Kloyd wrote:

hi

d u choose combocolors? opps, fixed

  • extra
  1. 00:42:975 (1) - i think u don't need to nc here fixed
  2. 00:43:673 (1) - same fixed
  3. 00:46:638 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - we can make this more aesthetic i think its ok lol
  4. 00:56:405 (1,2,3,4,5) - hard to see for me so i've changed this pattern little bit http://puu.sh/mdF3L/24ddd20a99.jpg anyway setting those apart can make playability better imo fixed
  5. 01:20:998 (1) - remove nc fixed
  6. 01:25:708 (1,2,3) - making spacing lower can make more impact imo fixed
  7. 01:28:498 (1,1,1,1) - try like this http://puu.sh/mdFal/31f393b0a8.jpg keeping this for consistency with earlier pattern
  8. 01:35:301 (6,1) - space more fixed
  9. 01:49:080 (1) - is that 1/16? i have no idea but some guys who take the sound perfectly might say something if thats not 1/16 i'll try asking for others opinion
  10. 02:10:126 (1) - a custom hitsound can make this have more impact added!

  • Hard
  1. 02:06:173 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - space more and nc 02:06:696 (2) - following DS, added NC tho

  • Easy
  1. 00:13:150 (2) - how about this http://puu.sh/mepRJ/8d30b534d4.jpg following DS
  2. 02:07:568 (3) - nc fixed


gonna mod other diffs after i take a break gl thanks for mod! :)
Rtyzen

Kloyd wrote:

  • Insane

    ask any bn or qat for ds
  1. 00:13:498 (4,7,10) - how bout nc
  2. 00:43:324 (1,1) - same
  3. 01:31:987 (3) - 1/4 comes to me more than 1/3
  4. 01:43:150 (5) - nc
  5. 01:53:615 (1,1) - same
Fixed all, except ds will fix later

Thanks :)
- Castaway -
From my queueue

SPOILER
Easy
  1. 00:17:336 (2,2) - Better blanket
  2. 00:37:219 (2,3) - I don't like pointing out blankets D:
  3. 00:39:661 (2,3) - ^
  4. 01:01:115 (2) - Check spacing here
  5. 00:35:649 (3,3) - stack
    Pretty much fine
Normal
  1. 01:54:312 (2,1) - blanket wah~
  2. 00:06:173 (1,2) - i would make slider 1 straight vertically...u almost have to turn a completely new direction
  3. 00:16:638 (5) - move to x:313 y:214, means u will have to move the circles after this as well
  4. 01:01:987 (1) - This better:http://puu.sh/meAzh/cedd434731.JPG
  5. 01:09:661 (5,6) - not a fan of this
  6. 01:32:685 (1) - why does nearly every circle after this have whistle hitsound. I'm bad at hitsounding...but it hurts ma ears
Hard
  1. AR 7 please
  2. 00:12:452 (2) - Better as long slider
  3. 01:20:126 (1,1,1) - Stick to DS please :D
  4. 01:45:068 (4) - woaw...this is really weird
    That's it
Insane
  1. Put the AR down to probs an 8 onwards :o
  2. General comment: give your sliders some space
    Fine as well :D
Some sort of Love
  1. 00:04:778 (1) - dont stack this completely...move to off abit
  2. 00:14:545 (1) - ^
  3. Alot more others ^...you can find them urself
    Umm...Pretty much fine too :D
Soz for my somewhat useless mod...

GL on rank
Topic Starter
jcjc

- Castaway - wrote:

From my queueue

SPOILER
Easy
  1. 00:17:336 (2,2) - Better blanket keeping this for the symmetry
  2. 00:37:219 (2,3) - I don't like pointing out blankets D: fixed
  3. 00:39:661 (2,3) - ^ fixed
  4. 01:01:115 (2) - Check spacing here fixed
  5. 00:35:649 (3,3) - stack fine imo
    Pretty much fine
Normal
  1. 01:54:312 (2,1) - blanket wah~ im bad at blankets
  2. 00:06:173 (1,2) - i would make slider 1 straight vertically...u almost have to turn a completely new direction fixed
  3. 00:16:638 (5) - move to x:313 y:214, means u will have to move the circles after this as well moved stuff around abit
  4. 01:01:987 (1) - This better:http://puu.sh/meAzh/cedd434731.JPG fixed
  5. 01:09:661 (5,6) - not a fan of this moved to the other side
  6. 01:32:685 (1) - why does nearly every circle after this have whistle hitsound. I'm bad at hitsounding...but it hurts ma ears the whistles are following the vocals i guess
Hard
  1. AR 7 please ok
  2. 00:12:452 (2) - Better as long slider the music kinda stops there so i used a circle
  3. 01:20:126 (1,1,1) - Stick to DS please :D fixed
  4. 01:45:068 (4) - woaw...this is really weird fine to me i guess? idk
    That's it
Some sort of Love
  1. 00:04:778 (1) - dont stack this completely...move to off abit changed this and 00:10:184 (5) - too
  2. 00:14:545 (1) - ^ keeping this cause of SV changes
  3. Alot more others ^...you can find them urself
    Umm...Pretty much fine too :D
Soz for my somewhat useless mod... wat no your mod helped lol

GL on rank thanks for modding! :)
-Keitaro
From my modding queue!

Normal
00:07:568 (1) - Uncheck NC
01:44:894 - Add a circle
Hard
01:56:405 (1,2) - Stack these?
Insane
00:21:696 (6,8) - Stack these
01:52:917 (3,5) - 6
Extra
00:34:429 (2,3) - Stack these
Topic Starter
jcjc

Rendyindo wrote:

From my modding queue!

Normal
00:07:568 (1) - Uncheck NC fixed
01:44:894 - Add a circle fixed
Hard
01:56:405 (1,2) - Stack these? keeping for DS
Extra
00:34:429 (2,3) - Stack these meant to be unstacked
Thanks for modding!
gracefu
[Hard]
00:42:452 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - These are a bit hard to read and play imo... Even at 40k rank I'm finding it tricky since the gap between the repeat sliders and the next triple is 1/4.
01:20:126 (1,1) - Maybe overlap a bit more than just the tip? Or move them slightly further apart so there's a small gap
01:45:068 (4) - I'm not sure if completely covering circles are allowed in Hard. Keep them if it's okay because this plays well.
01:50:650 (4) - ^

[Normal]
00:15:243 (3) - blanket me
00:15:940 (4) - ^
00:26:405 (3) - ^
00:28:498 (2) - ^
00:31:987 (2) - maybe move this slightly left and up? it looks better imo
00:33:033 (1,2) - is this symmetrical with red combo?
00:46:638 (4) - the lower half not blanketing properly
01:31:289 (4) - ^ upper half
01:44:894 (3,4) - a little bit harder than the rest of the map
01:55:010 (1) - blanket me
01:56:405 (1) - ^
01:57:801 (1) - ^

[Easy]
Hm all the patterns and flows make sense, it's just that sometimes there are difficult beat placements here: 00:21:871 (2,1) - 00:33:033 (2,1) - 00:59:196 (1,2) - 01:00:592 (1,2) - 01:04:778 (1,2) - 01:06:173 (1,2) - Since it seems to be used consistently I'd say keep it until a BN complains :3
Topic Starter
jcjc

gracefu wrote:

[Hard]
00:42:452 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - These are a bit hard to read and play imo... Even at 40k rank I'm finding it tricky since the gap between the repeat sliders and the next triple is 1/4. true, fixed
01:20:126 (1,1) - Maybe overlap a bit more than just the tip? Or move them slightly further apart so there's a small gap following distance snap lol
01:45:068 (4) - I'm not sure if completely covering circles are allowed in Hard. Keep them if it's okay because this plays well. i want to keep this cause its cool, if its unrankable i'll change :(
01:50:650 (4) - ^ ^

[Normal]
00:15:243 (3) - blanket me fixed
00:15:940 (4) - ^ fixed
00:26:405 (3) - ^ fixed
00:28:498 (2) - ^ fixed
00:31:987 (2) - maybe move this slightly left and up? it looks better imo sure
00:33:033 (1,2) - is this symmetrical with red combo? yes? double checked and its ok
00:46:638 (4) - the lower half not blanketing properly fixed
01:31:289 (4) - ^ upper half fixed
01:44:894 (3,4) - a little bit harder than the rest of the map fixed with the later pattern
01:55:010 (1) - blanket me fixed
01:56:405 (1) - ^ fixed
01:57:801 (1) - ^ fixed

[Easy]
Hm all the patterns and flows make sense, it's just that sometimes there are difficult beat placements here: 00:21:871 (2,1) - 00:33:033 (2,1) - 00:59:196 (1,2) - 01:00:592 (1,2) - 01:04:778 (1,2) - 01:06:173 (1,2) - Since it seems to be used consistently I'd say keep it until a BN complains :3 lol ok
Thanks for modding! :)
-[Seon]-
Hello, from my queue

mod
Hard
00:16:812 (3,4) - swap these 2 around (put the circle beat 1st before the slider)
01:56:929 - since there's a beat here, I suggest adding either a start or an end circle

Normal
01:03:382 (3,4,5,6) - why are these not curved?
01:11:057 (2) - put this higher for a better flow

Easy
01:03:033 - should add a beat here
01:08:615 - ^

Rtyzen's Insane
00:41:929 (9) - put this circle to the left for a better flow

that's all I can find, good luck :)
Topic Starter
jcjc

XxSeonxX wrote:

Hello, from my queue

mod
Hard
00:16:812 (3,4) - swap these 2 around (put the circle beat 1st before the slider) yep, fixed
01:56:929 - since there's a beat here, I suggest adding either a start or an end circle holy shit why didn't I do this lol fixed

Normal
01:03:382 (3,4,5,6) - why are these not curved? just for variation
01:11:057 (2) - put this higher for a better flow shifted stuff around slightly

Easy
01:03:033 - should add a beat here uh ok
01:08:615 - ^ ^

that's all I can find, good luck :) thanks for modding!
Rtyzen

- Castaway - wrote:

Insane
  1. Put the AR down to probs an 8 onwards :o Down to 8.8 for now
  2. General comment: give your sliders some space
    Fine as well :D

Rendyindo wrote:

Insane
00:21:696 (6,8) - Stack these done
01:52:917 (3,5) - 6 not too sure but fixed I think?

XxSeonxX wrote:

Rtyzen's Insane
00:41:929 (9) - put this circle to the left for a better flow Done
Thanks!
lcfc
*no kudosu*


ok

Small mod because I'm tired.


Generally, don't use the whistle hitsound too much.
Why no kiai time? ;(
Easy
00:42:452 - 00:46:638 why two spinners? Make it one, and try avoiding using two consecutive spinners, especially at easy difficulties. It is confusing.
01:08:092 move to y:204

I might edit this later when I'm not that tired.
- HellBird -
Hello from my queue!

Rtyzen's Insane

• 00:04:603 (5) - Don't put this slider under the slider (4) its way too confusing. Do it like the one at 00:07:394 (5) instead.
• 00:10:185 (5) - ^
• 00:12:975 (5) - ^
• 01:11:580 (5) - ^

• 00:16:987 (1) - Remove NC

• 00:19:429 (3) - CTRL + J, CTRL + H, Then move it to x:188, y:288. This way it has better flow and looks visually better.

• 00:38:266 (6) - NC here
• 00:41:057 (6) - ^
• 00:55:010 (6) - ^
• 01:06:173 (6) - ^

• 01:09:312 (1,2,3,4) - This jump stream is a bit hard. I suggest you just combine this stream with the one at 01:08:964 (1,2,3,4). Or make it a 1/4 reverse slider.

Tragic Love Extra

• 00:08:266 (3) - NC here
• 00:12:626 (1) - Remove NC

• 00:22:219 (1) - Move to x:284, y:88

• 00:32:946 - There should be a note here.

• 01:21:522 (1) - This slider should be as long as the slider at 01:24:312 (1) because there is a clap beat at 01:22:219

• 02:07:655 (1,1,1,1,1) - Remove NC on all of those because it would play weird in tag-coop.

And that's it

Sorry if the mod was a bit short but I hope it helped somehow. Good luck on ranking the map ^^
Topic Starter
jcjc

-[H13]- wrote:

*no kudosu*


ok

Small mod because I'm tired.


Generally, don't use the whistle hitsound too much.
Why no kiai time? ;( kiai sux
Easy
00:42:452 - 00:46:638 why two spinners? Make it one, and try avoiding using two consecutive spinners, especially at easy difficulties. It is confusing. ok
01:08:092 move to y:204 ok

I might edit this later when I'm not that tired. thanks for modding! :)

Scebtile wrote:

Hello from my queue!
Tragic Love Extra

• 00:08:266 (3) - NC here ok
• 00:12:626 (1) - Remove NC ok

• 00:22:219 (1) - Move to x:284, y:88 fine imo

• 00:32:946 - There should be a note here. following vocal here

• 01:21:522 (1) - This slider should be as long as the slider at 01:24:312 (1) because there is a clap beat at 01:22:219 following the piano here, and there's a slidertick hitsound on 01:22:219 already

• 02:07:655 (1,1,1,1,1) - Remove NC on all of those because it would play weird in tag-coop. wat

And that's it

Sorry if the mod was a bit short but I hope it helped somehow. Good luck on ranking the map ^^ thanks for modding~
Cellina
From my modding queue!

[Tragic Love Extra]
00:13:324 - why did you miss all of 1/4 sounds?
00:21:522 - same, until 00:22:481 - . If you are going to follow vocal's sound change 00:21:522 (1,2,3) - to 1/2.
00:32:685 - ^
00:52:568 (1) - I don't think NC is needed.
00:58:150 (1) - ^
01:03:732 (1) - ^
01:42:801 (1) - ^
01:43:150 (1) - NC

Nice map, GL!
Topic Starter
jcjc

Reana wrote:

From my modding queue!

[Tragic Love Extra]
00:13:324 - why did you miss all of 1/4 sounds? 1/4 sounds not very strong imo
00:21:522 - same, until 00:22:481 - . If you are going to follow vocal's sound change 00:21:522 (1,2,3) - to 1/2. following vocal but having more variation is good too :)
00:32:685 - ^ ^
00:52:568 (1) - I don't think NC is needed. ok
00:58:150 (1) - ^ ok
01:03:732 (1) - ^ ok
01:42:801 (1) - ^ ok
01:43:150 (1) - NC ok

Nice map, GL! thanks
bigfrog
hi, from my queue :3

Tragic Love Extra
00:33:208 (2) - move to 232|260?
00:34:952 (1,2) - ctrl+g for better flow
00:38:789 (3,4) - ctrl+g, same reason as above
01:37:568 (1) - renove NC?

why not add some kiai time?? :roll:
Rtyzen's Insane
00:27:278 (2) - move to 372|236 or near? better flow i think
01:01:115 (3,4) - this way? : 02:08:353 - add a circle here and move spinner to 02:08:440
Hard
01:15:243 (4) - use slider instead of circle? it seem a little empty there
01:20:126 (1) - slide to 01:20:737 and the next slider start at 01:20:824
Normal
no problem.
Easy
00:56:405 (1,2) - can blanket better, but up to you
01:37:219 (3,4) - ctrl+g? more fit rhythm i think

maybe can change some straight slider to curve one, this diff might become more soft :P
that all, nice song :)
good luck~~
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