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Medical Mafia II - SCUM WIN

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Chamelo
iirc, the mafia game that crossed the border from 2014 to 2015 also met the same fate.
It's like people were tired from new year celebration.
Topic Starter
Ace Timing
Dr. Ling, please pass me the drill.
Vote Count 3.02

[0] Zexion --
[0] Xiz --
[0] beeboy123 --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Chamelo_Th --
[3] Lincolm -- Xiz, Chamelo_Th, Navizel (L-1)
[0] No Lynch --
Not Voting -- Zexion, beeboy123, Lincolm

With 6 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

Deadline is 2 days from now on January 23rd, 2:00PM EST (UST-5). This is 2 hours from now.
beeboy123
vote: Lincolm

sigh it is worth a shot I guess
beeboy123
btw if Lincolm flips town we can still win if no one protects Navi so I can NK him o.o
Since it would be a nice phase with 3 town and 2 scum I just think we are more likely to lose if we keep durdling :)
beeboy123
Or I can just not use my night action and I can rely on you guys to protect each other which would also stop all NKs so obv don't follow your claimed night actions you said earlier
beeboy123
Or I can just not use my night action and I can rely on you guys to protect each other which would also stop all NKs so obv don't follow your claimed night actions you said earlier
beeboy123
If Lincolm flips scum we should just do the usual strats we planned since 3 deaths in one night would be almost impossible.
Navizel
reminder to lynch beeboy if he manages to kill me

just putting it here
Navizel>Xiz>Zexion>Chamelo>beeboy
beeboy123
o.o If that is a target list we straight up lose if Lincolm flips town and follow that since scum will know who will be unprotected
if that is a readlist nvrmnd
Navizel
what. you want to kill me right? Navizel>Xiz>Zexion>Chamelo>beeboy>Navi
Topic Starter
Ace Timing
Vote Count 3.02

[0] Zexion --
[0] Xiz --
[0] beeboy123 --
[0] Navizel --
[0] Chamelo_Th --
[4] Lincolm -- Xiz, Chamelo_Th, Navizel (LYNCH)
[0] No Lynch --
Not Voting -- Zexion, beeboy123, Lincolm

The head nurse runs into the room, saying there's been a terrible incident in Room 145. "It's Doctor Lincolm sir!"
"the intern who was unconscious and couldn't speak for most of the day because of his idiopathic sudden onset congenital heart disease?"
"Yes sir, his LVAD wire we installed was cut!"
I walked into the room to see his LVAD wire was clearly cut. Curiously enough, the other interns surrounded his body, beeboy123 scissors in hand.
"What happened!"
"He was a phony doctor!" one intern shouted
"what proof did you have?"
"nothing but our wits and group desperation." Another said, beaming widely.
"oh my god..."
A look at his papers in the bag showed his true identity...

He was Lincolm, a Mafia Goon.
Well in that case, you earned a treat, your shifts are over. Go sleep in your on call rooms.
Night one starts now, deadlines for actions is 24 hours from now at 6:30PM EST January 23.
Topic Starter
Ace Timing
[intercom] GOOD MORNING VIETNAM! Get up outta here, the smell of blood is nauseating when it's been in a room for so long.
We found another...
(aside)wha- really?
So we found TWO dead bodies this morning.
First one was Navizel, a veritable Doctor.

It's now come to my attention that the body of Xiz, another veritable Doctor.

Autopsies show that the Cause of deaths were a peculiar incident involving a hammer and a pencil holder and blood loss resulting from a severed femoral artery.

Well, that's not my problem, I make boku bucks without you guys. Get to work, go bother your attending.


Vote Count 4.01

[0] Zexion --
[0] beeboy123 --
[0] Chamelo_Th --

[0] No Lynch --
Not Voting -- Zexion, beeboy123, Chamelo_Th

3 alive makes 2 to a lynch.
Day 4 starts now, deadline for the day is January 29th, at 7:30PM
Zexion
This is really bad.

FTR, I targeted no one last night.

Also I have a good feeling who is the last scum.
beeboy123
I knew I could kill people =D
(sorry Navi)
beeboy123
I am prob going to vote Chamelo_Th in the end but obv I am going to go and review the game first.
beeboy123
Actually after quickly reviewing the ISOs idk. Zexion was my town read and the way Chamelo spoke about his night actions I genuinely believe he is town.
beeboy123
Actually I think he is 100% town at this point since I just proved I am the Vig/CPR doc.
When I tried to target Navi he lived and the only other person to target him was Chamelo and he couldn't have possibly saved Navi that night as a scum.

Unless on N2 (I believe) someone else targeted Navi or I am the CPR doc and scum targeted Navi, but that second one doesn't add up because following the night actions I don't think it is possible for there to be another Vig/CPR.
But I don't think I could be a CPR doc because on N1 scum have no reason to not kill a conf town.
Not voting Zexion because I have work to do and still want to review the night actions just in case I am wrong about only me and Chamelo targeting Navi N2
beeboy123
N1 (Frosting Dies)

Xiz -> Blank
Zexion -> Jess
Lincolm -> Beeboy
Navi -> Chamelo
Chamelo -> Nothing
- Magic Bomb -> Beeboy
Beeboy -> Frosting
Jess -> (subbed out so no night action)

N2 (- Magic Bomb -, Jess Modkill)
Beeboy -> Navi
Chamelo -> Navi
Zexion -> Lincolm
Lincolm -> (No one)
Navi -> No one
Xiz -> No one

N3 (Xiz, Navi)
Navi -> Xiz
Beeboy -> Navi
Zexion -> Chamelo
Chamelo -> Beeboy
beeboy123
So I am confirmed Quack/CPR since if I was a real doctor Frosting would have survived and if I was a do nothing doctor Navi would not have died since scum have no reason to target Navi for a nightkill since there is too much evidence to support me being a Quack/CPR doc and logically no one would risk me being a CPR and scum being a terrible since I would have protected Navi making it 4 town -> 1 scum day phase. Using the logic I am a confirmed CPR/Quack Doctor Chamelo must have protected Navi N2.

Now if I am a CPR frosting would have lived N1 if scum targeted him or scum targeted me(town was pressuring me so dumb), jess(he wasn't doing anything dumb), Chamelo(Chamelo conf town)
Now if I am a Quack doctor Chamelo is confirm town doctor.
Using the logic Chamelo is town with me in all reasonable situations.

Vote: Zexion

Zexion why did you pressure Lincolm but when he got on the hot seat you completely ignored his existence until he got lynched?

Your night actions also make literally no sense to me, why target Jess he was a non-factor during d1 and after confirming you weren't a kill role why target one of your scum reads? They don't add up at all.
Chamelo
Speaking logically, yes, Navi survived N2 because I also targeted him.
Chamelo
That makes N3 actions:
Zexion -> Xiz
Navi -> Xiz
beeboy -> Navi
Chamelo -> beeboy
beeboy123
If I was scum I wouldn't have killed Magic Bomb since he either agreed or never denied to not protect me N2 which is the night he died. He also can't be a weak doctor or he would have died targeting me N1. No one else targeted magic bomb so we know his death was from scum.

Not only are my scum intentions incredibly weird and do little to nothing in regards to making me win as scum.
Zexion's night actions and suddenly switching from pressuring Lincolm to ignoring him and pressuring Xiz are very pro scum intentions.

Also not hammering Lincolm would have given me as a scum a very high chance if any town messed up and accidentally killed a fellow towny to win and not hammering him is totally town so I would have little to no reason to not do it since Lincolm was my town read. I only voted him because I decided if he was town and we lynched no one we would lose anyway because of what I said above.

If I am scum my actions are so bad I should probably be banned from this sub-forum for trolling.
beeboy123

Chamelo_Th wrote:

That makes N3 actions:
Zexion -> Xiz
Navi -> Xiz
beeboy -> Navi
Chamelo -> beeboy
Xiz -> Zexion I forgot that one.
Zexion
I was inactive most of Day 3 due to personal stuff so that's why I never returned to vote. I voted Lincolm at Day 2 btw, in case you're worried about that.

Besides, Lincolm's wagon really lost strenght after D1. If I was scum I could have easily turned things arround. I didn't pay much attention at my night targets and prefered to target inactive people (Jess) or in this case my scumread (Lincolm) in order to see what my role was, it was just a way to see what my role was.

There's one thing I don't like about your analysis tho, and that is assuming everyone (but Lincolm) said the truth about their targets. It's rather dangerous to try to resolve the game via actions.
beeboy123
Town has no reason to lie about night targets o.o because it would make us lose pretty hard towards the end of the game.
If you targeted Jess as a Quack or a CPR he would have died as scum have no reason to target an inactive player. I don't believe it is that hard to come up with that conclusion if you are trying to find out what your role is.

P.S. Chamelo is conf town so you might as well vote me because you don't lose anything.
Zexion
Which is why I didn't target last night. Obviously town have no reason to lie, but scum?

Vote: beeboy123
beeboy123
Picking up prod waiting on chamelo still
Zexion
Same.
beeboy123
While we wait we should play a forum game inside this game of mafia
beeboy123
Like count until the mod makes a post then we have to restart
I will start.

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Chamelo
Wow this is hard >.>
beeboy123
I mean you got 2 options, me who has legit evidence following the claimed night actions or zexion who looked towny on D1. <.<
Do you have any questions or anything that could make this easier for you?
Chamelo
Right now I'm looking into the case the you're lying
I mean, no offense, but what if
beeboy123
what if what? how coincidental would it be that I claimed to try a vig the same person you targeted if i was trying to be a fake town vig messing up like that would cost me the game.
Topic Starter
Ace Timing

beeboy123 wrote:

Like count until the mod makes a post then we have to restart
I will start.

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I'm itching to assert my dominance after this post with a modkill but my superego isn't letting me.

Vote Count 4.02

[0] Zexion --
[1] beeboy123 -- Zexion
[0] Chamelo_Th --

[0] No Lynch --
Not Voting -- beeboy123, Chamelo_Th

3 alive makes 2 to a lynch.
Deadline for the day is January 29th, at 7:30PM. This is roughly two days from now.
beeboy123
Vote: Zexion

boop boop waiting on chamelo
Chamelo
really
Chamelo
Let's say beeboy really convince me to pick a choice (which, in his mind, wants me to pick Zexion) but Zexion's post hit me hard.

So I'll just YOLO

Vote: beeboy
Chamelo
There are a lot of scenarios that if I replace vig beeboy with scum beeboy it still makes sense.
And a chance that Jess was vig but never got a chance to speak.

No. I will not regret my decision.
beeboy123
You could have let me restate my opinions we had 3 more days I was waiting on you because I wanted to know why you thought I was lying not to force a lynch so I could clarify some of my statements.
Me being scum doesn't make sense because it doesn't explain magic bombs death and on the same night it would have been a major coincidence that I happened to guess that someone targeted Frostings because if no one claimed to have protected him I would have been outed as scum immediately.
Also Zexion's night actions made no sense there was literally no rhyme or reason to support them.

Although this is largely my fault because I was being scum read for a majority of this game and I could have done a better job from stopping that from happening so I can't blame you for thinking I am scum. Also Zexion played this game well because I only thought of him as scum when he was literally the only option. (hence why I voted him so early in the day to give us more time to talk)

GG This was a fun game but we lost town.
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