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Toby Fox - Finale

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AsyouSaidsir
71 posts
Joined April 2015
Topic Starter
AsyouSaidsir
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 4:18:31 PM

Artist: Toby Fox
Title: Finale
Source: Undertale
BPM: 190
Filesize: 2327kb
Play Time: 01:50
Difficulties Available:
  1. DETERMINATION! (4.73 stars, 335 notes)
  2. Easy (1.21 stars, 68 notes)
  3. Hard (2.95 stars, 266 notes)
  4. Insane (4.2 stars, 293 notes)
  5. Normal (1.68 stars, 176 notes)
  6. Normal+ (2.32 stars, 228 notes)
Download: Toby Fox - Finale
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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~~~My first submission~~~
Still a WIP.

WARNING: 190BPM STREAMS NEAR THE END OF DETERMINATION! AND INSANE DIFFICULTY. uh, this deserves a warning, right?
Last edited by AsyouSaidsir , edited 13 times in total.
ricewaffle
2 posts
Joined July 2015
ricewaffle
Hey,


Sir, you just made my day!

I really like the map, it's awesome and even thou it's still a WIP it should be Approved as soon as possible!

Also, please keep on the good work! :D
AsyouSaidsir
71 posts
Joined April 2015
Topic Starter
AsyouSaidsir

Sanbadik wrote:

Hey,


Sir, you just made my day!

I really like the map, it's awesome and even thou it's still a WIP it should be Approved as soon as possible!

Also, please keep on the good work! :D
* Reading this reply fills you with determination.
Thanks for the feedback! I'll try my best to not disappoint you! :)
Renumi
Beatmap Nominator
904 posts
Joined July 2012
Renumi
Hello~!
Since I love this map so much, I'm going to go the extra mile and go ahead and mod this map so.... here have a mod! (modding with your permission)

General

  • ■ First off, the background itself is 1024x576, which differs from the recommended size of 1024x768. Consider re-sizing it to that it meets with map standards.

    ■ Maybe place the uninherited (red) timing point to the beginning of the song?

    ■ There are inconsistencies with Kiai Time in the Easy diff; Easy's Kiai Time is different than every other difficulties' Kiai Times. You have to change this.
    Either change the Kiai Time on all difficulties (excluding Easy of course~) to 01:46:130 which I recommend or shorten the Kiai Time down to 01:28:130 on all other difficulties.

    ■ There are no tags in the beatmap... add some tags so people can locate your map easier! For example, adding the tag "undertale" or "chiptune" to every difficulty or something more of the sorts.

    ■ The artist of this song, as you wrote, is Toby Fox. Sorry for being so direct but you should change the song's artist name to toby fox. Reason being that the name "Toby Fox" is never capitalized. Another example of this would be yuikonnu, and how her/(his?) name is almost always never capitalized.

    ■ No hitsounds (though since this is still a WIP as you said, so I guess it's fine) .-.

    ■ Every particular difficulty has a 25ms of Audio Lead-In time, which is different from the recommended 2000ms. The best way to fix this is to replace the mp3. If you're unsure as to how to do this, you can ask me, and I'll gladly help.

    ■ Combo colors are pretty much the same throughout all difficulties. Consider adding some different colors (although if this is intentional, then please forgive me) .-.

    ■ A little tip: for the incoming x:- y:- suggestions, click the "x:- y:-" numbers on the top right corner of the editor screen; when editing a difficulty to make it much, much easier.

    That's about it~ If you need help with any of these things, you can come to me, and I'll help as best I can.

Easy
  • ■ Right off the bat, starting off in the map you used a lot of slider shapes... so much so that they don't really contrast each other very well. This is just a suggestion and please don't take this the wrong way, but consider replacing some of the big sliders with those shapes, and consider going for some more simple ones in exchange.

    ■ 00:27:183 (2) - This note is a bit outside of the play area. Place the note a bit lower so that it fits inside the play area.

    ■ 00:35:394 (5) - New combo here?

    ■ 00:37:920 (7) - There's an overlap with this slider here 00:40:446 (1). I recommend you fix it by moving the green slider a bit to the left or right, moving the nodes on the green slider, so they don't overlap with the blue slider, or simply put, just avoid the overlap.

    ■ 00:45:499 - Why do leave this part onward unmapped until this note here 00:48:025 (1)? I get what you're trying to do with this, but it just seems so... empty ;-; consider adding a note on this 00:46:762 white tick.

    ■ 00:48:341 - Why the break? (if you want, you can keep it or map some stuff that replaces the break, but honestly, it's all up to you).>-<

    ■ 01:06:341 (2) - This note overlaps with this 01:08:236 (1) slider. Move the small square [ 01:05:709 (1,2,3,4) ] a bit so that it doesn't overlap or figure something out. Maybe something like this?

    ■ 01:11:394 (4) - New Combo here?

    ■ 01:12:657 (1) - This repeat slider doesn't feel that good, at least along with the beat of the map. I recommend this or something alike. But it's your choice as to what you want to do.

    ■ 01:47:394 (1) - Why don't you extend this spinner to here 01:47:394 (1) ?
That's all for this diff~

Normal
  • ■ 00:01:604 (4,5) - In my opinion, something like what you did with 00:11:709 (5,6) fits SO much better.

    ■ 00:08:551 (2,3,4,5) - Just a suggestion, but instead of just a straight line for these four notes, why not try something like a zigzag?

    ■ 00:41:078 (7) - New Combo starting here. Also, move it a bit down, so there's some space between this note and this 00:44:867 (11) note? (stupid, i know. but still).

    ■ 01:04:130 - This slider here, at this point and time just doesn't..... "fit" if you know what I mean. Maybe try something like this?

    ■ 01:11:078 (2) - Move this note to x:276 y:312. It fits better in my opinion.

    ■ 01:11:394 (3) - Move this slider to x:360 y:316. Still fits better.

    ■ 01:12:025 (4) - Move this note to x:344 y:216. Again, It'd fit better.

    ■ 01:12:341 (5) - Move to x:300 y:128? Would fit better.

    ■ 01:12:657 (6) - Move this last slider to x:204 y:112. Sorry for all these changes x-x

    ■ 01:27:499 (9) - Move this slider to x:192 y:60 to avoid a small overlap with this 01:28:446 (11) slider.

    ■ 01:38:551 (8) - Why does this slider end on a red tick when ending on a white tick would've been better; if you extend this slider to 01:38:551 (8) , then it would be much better imo.

    ■ 01:49:920 (2) - Move this slider closer to the previous one.
That's it~

Normal+
  • ■ 00:31:920 (7) - Move this slider a bit down so that it doesn't overlap with the triples before it.

    ■ 00:40:446 (1,2) - Without basically spamming you with x and y positioning changes, I just suggest you move these two notes like this so that it doesn't overlap with these 00:38:867 (4,5,6,7) four notes.

    ■ 01:18:341 (7,8) - Why this? Why not go for something like this since it follows the flow of the map better?

    ■ 01:33:499 (8) - New combo. >-<

    ■ 01:49:130 (6) - Believe me, I don't like telling you what to do with these changes, I really don't. But could you move this note to x:120 y:104, also moving the middle node to x:148 y:104? I'm sorry if it seems too overwhelming. ;-;
I couldn't find that much to say about it gj~

Hard
  • ■ 00:22:762 (1) - Move this note a bit to the right.

    ■ 00:24:341 (7) - Move this note to x:220 y:180; fits better ;-;

    ■ 00:24:657 (8) - Move this note to the left (though if you want to get technical, move it to x:152 y:88 ;w;)

    ■ 00:27:499 (6) - Move this note up so that it doesn't overlap wit the rest of the notes.

    ■ 00:29:709 (7) - Move this note so that it doesn't overlap (though if you want to listen to my dumb recommendations, x:152 y:336).

    ■ 00:33:183 (2,3) - Why don't you do something like what you did 00:30:341 (1,2) here for this part? ;w;

    ■ 01:00:499 (8) - Move this note a bit closer to the other three notes.

    ■ 01:00:657 - From this section onwards.... why are the notes placed so... disorderly? Wouldn't it make sense to time these as triples? If you don't get what I mean, I mean something like this?

    ■ 01:02:236 (5,6,7) - Again, but place this section here 01:01:920 if you went ahead with the previous suggestion.

    ■ 01:02:867 - If you actually went ahead with the previous two suggestions, then place a note here perhaps?

    ■ 01:03:657 - Place a note here?

    ■ 01:09:499 (1,2) - Consider placing these two sliders a bit to the left, so as to not overlap over 01:11:394 (5) this slider.

    ■ 01:12:025 (1,2) - Also try this?

    ■ 01:34:446 (4) - End this slider on a white tick.

    ■ 01:44:551 (5) - ^^^ Altough it's probably intentional, I strongly suggest you end on a white tick.

    ■ 01:49:920 (3) - Consider stretching out this last slider to 01:49:920 (3) !
.w.placing is kind of all over the place too i'm so so so sorry

-I lost over 2 hours modding Insane and Determination diffs and have no idea what i wrote so the mods for these two diffs may not be all that great-

Insane
  • ■ 00:25:762 (6,7) - Space these two notes out a bit.

    ■ 00:31:604 (1) - Move this note to x:232 y:128

    ■ 00:32:867 (4) - Click here for node positioning. If you move the nodes to those positions, I think that it would compliment these 00:33:341 (5,6) two notes a lot better.

    ■ 00:33:499 (6) - Move this note to x:264 y:188; or just move this note a bit farther away from this note 00:33:341 (5) as I think it would look better.

    ■ 00:41:078 (2) - Move this slider to x:296 y:264; move it a bit closer to the slider that follows it. I think it fits a bit better.

    ■ 00:44:867 (6) - I hate telling you where to position thing but if you move this note to x:160 y:176, it would fit in with the map a whole lot better.

    ■ 01:00:341 (7) - Move to x:260 y:296 pls. I'm sorry ;-;

    ■ 01:25:920 (5) - New combo.

    ■ 01:29:709 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - This whole stream feels... really... "off" in this section. I suggest you change it to something like this. But before that, ask someone to testplay your map and then see what they have to say about it.

    ■ 01:34:604 (4) - I get what you're trying to do here, but I feel as though it would fit in much better if you ended this note on a white tick and added a note on your bookmark [the red tick; 01:34:604 (4) ].

    ■ 01:39:657 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - First off, this stream is wrongly placed. When I say that, I mean that you placed the stream here 01:39:657 , but the actual song hints toward a stream at 01:39:815 on a white tick. My recommendation is to get rid of the stream, place a blue note here 01:39:657 so that it rounds up to 8 blue notes, and start the stream at 01:39:815 what you want to do is this. (though I highly suggest you keep these streams for the "DETERMINATION!" diff and try for something like this on such difficulty.)

DETERMINATION!
WHY THE CAPS? I think "Determination" is just fine for a diff name uwu

  • ■ 00:09:499 (7) - Move this note a bit to the left so that it doesn't overlap with this 00:10:130 (1) slider.

    ■ 00:11:867 (7) - Move this note to x:359 y:143, since I feel like the jumps would look a bit "smoother".

    ■ 00:17:393 (4) - This note is too high and goes outside the playfield a bit. Consider lowering it.

    ■ 00:31:288 (6) - Move this note so that it doesn't overlap with this 00:30:815 (2) note?

    ■ 00:14:867 (8) - Move this note to x:348 y:68?

    ■ 01:05:078 (5) - Move this note so that it doesn't overlap with the green slider.

    ■ 01:21:183 (3) - New combo.

    ■ 01:29:394 (15,16,17,18,19,20,21,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Get someone's opinion on this stream (ask in a mod request forum?) and hear what they have to say about it.

    ■ 01:33:973 (2,3,4) - fix overlaps .w.

    ■ 01:39:894 (6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4) - Same thing for the streams.

PHEW AND I'M DONE. I'm extremely sorry if this mod seemed too overwhelming. I also feel as though I rushed some things, so I might/maybe come back for a re-check sometime later.
I really love this map though. Good luck with it~!
ppgamer
85 posts
Joined October 2015
ppgamer
Will you continue doing?
AsyouSaidsir
71 posts
Joined April 2015
Topic Starter
AsyouSaidsir

ppgamer wrote:

Will you continue doing?
The map needs a complete redo, it's one of my first maps and it's bad.
I've been wanting to completely remap it for a while, maybe even try to rank it if the song didn't get a ranked version. ;)
As to when I'll do that... I dunno, whenever I feel like it, I guess? I'm a lazy person. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Sorry if this is a let down.

Also, sorry Renigar for not applying your mod even though you worked hard on it.
xXAngelT2004xX
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Joined November 2016
xXAngelT2004xX
xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD :)
camilo343
1 post
Joined February 2016
camilo343
I love this map keep the good work! :)
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