Nelly wrote:

Wow next TimeFreeze... Oh god ill mod only 3 diffs okay? ;w; yes actually we need a lot of mods for the three hardest, so this is perfect

Extra

00:03:348 ~ 00:19:900 - you know I have a feeling of Monstrata notes too familiared and its still weird to me lol yes this is inspired by his style, but also because sharp angles and sliders make for a good design on this song
00:07:486 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - change to sliders the last note of each triple is emphasized, so i need it to be clicked on
00:31:279 (12,13,14,1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^ changed
00:41:417 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^ like earlier
Cant describe to this because everything the same as I replied to you
P.s. No timing errors.. Yay ^_^ heh we got some trouble with that but undead corp is good at post production timing so it was not that difficult

Most of the notes are unreadable and unmemorisable (290BPM = Hell Massacre)
This is really a Time Freeze reminder but even worse

Hope it helped something and sorry for a short mod
I SUCK

m4m please ;w;

Slayed wrote:

general

a bit unsnapped timing point do you mean preview point? I need to know which point you're talking about lol

useless osb file i don't have one, weird

unused drum-hitfinish2.wav deleted

check aimod lol yeah some error messages but everything's fine

normal

00:03:348 (1) - every nc does some shit on HP, so maybe u will nc every 3rd note (3rd big white tick) in the beggining? no that's fine

00:04:175 (2) - why this ends on a blue tick lol lol fixed

00:30:865 (1,1) - nazi spacing suggestions ? spacing seems fine here

01:02:106 (1) - after this moment i recognised that u need an easy diff, since ur normal is a bit hard for new players an easy for this song wouldn't make any sense, plus it's not required

01:21:141 (1) - why did u nced this? its not a real problem, but keep in mind HP things because this slider is before the solo part, it's a bit technical to explain but this slider belongs to the "previous part", whereas the next one belongs to the solo part

01:40:175 (1) - maybe ud like to stack it wih the end of this slider 01:37:692 (2) - ? seems more reasonable the spacing is totally fine since there are two beats between each slider

02:11:624 (1) - this slider can be hard to read i guess because of the overlap. try smth like this http://cs633126.vk.me/v633126809/13c6b/eGoJu3D6Wf8.jpg fixed

02:57:761 - spinner will work better if u will finish it here it's already about 5" long , which is quite enough for a normal, plus i don't see how it could be better here

advanced

00:53:831 (1,2,3,4) - this is actually 1/4 145 bpm sliders, probably its too hard for an advanced it's just fine, the most important thing is the gap between them

00:57:555 (2,3) - check the DS here and improve the symmetry fixed

01:11:624 (4,4) - kinda not cool overlap, u might want to fix it the slider is gone so it's okay

01:28:175 (4,3) - another little but a bit annoying overlap here, u should avoid such things yes

01:28:175 (4,1) - maybe u will also make them more paralllel? will improve blanket a bit yes

01:46:796 (1,2,3,4) - if there is nothing im music to support this hard pattern, maybe ull avoid it and continue putting sliders? there is, the snare drums

02:16:589 (1,2,3,4) - as i mentioned before

same things about the spinner

hard

ar - 0.5 maybe? the map is actually quite dense so ar8 is fine

00:50:934 (3) 00:51:348 (5) 00:51:761 (3) - maybe nc these to show spacing changes? not a bad idea but the way they are mapped makes it not fit well

00:57:555 (3) - 00:57:968 (5) - 00:58:382 (7) - ^

01:21:761 (1,1) - maybe u will better stack them? kinda 2 big spacing after the break i want to emphasize the slider, which is quite accentuated

01:36:451 (5,5) - maybe stack these to avoid uncool overlap? the circle will be long gone, the overlap isn't noticeable

01:50:934 (3,4) - this stack can be improved yeah but those are automatic, even if fixed they go back

02:13:279 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - same things about ncs as above 02:19:899 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - and another one xd

02:23:261 (1) - maybe u will start it on the red tick since it comes too fast from the blue tick for hard it doesn't matter when it begins since you don't need to click precisely to play a spinenr, just have a key pressed

same thoughts about the spinner

insane

00:27:347 (5,6,7,8) - very hard pattern for insane since u have 290 bpm lol. even with od7 its really hard to play they basically play like kick sliders, nothing fancy

01:14:934 (8,1) - ye blanket, looks nice, but it can be pretty unreadable in this part since uve never used such spacing here the NC can help noticing this, plus the circle is on the downbeat, which players would instinctively play anyway

01:26:106 (9) - maybe nc this since there are some changes in music? I use NC consistently every 2 measures, not for changes in music

02:40:175 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - i think this pattern is really hard for 4.3* insane with 290 bpm, 1/3 is much harder in playing than 1/4 yes this is true, but this shouldn't be too hard to play since it's only doubles, changed a bit tho

maybe ull end the last spinner 03:00:865 - here? will look better how can a spinner look better

sry, but i will be totally useless at extras exspecially with 290 bpm lol it's fine i understand

so gl

Neoskylove wrote:

m4m.

[normal]
nothing to say. But your NC is bad in normal. fixed

[Adv]
00:25:486 (2,3) - this symnystry is not perfect. it keeps changing even when i fix it, i can't do much about it
01:42:658 (3,4) - how about blanket sure yes
02:33:555 (2,3) - bad pattern.... should be good now

[hard]
00:50:520 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - distance is bad. it's just increasing, like the build up in the song
01:39:761 (4,4) - http://puu.sh/mWsm5/f0b68b4712.jpg not really noticeable but fixed anyway

Finish...Sorry I can't mod Extra...

Deppyforce wrote:

lol this song is great

[General]
in normal, adv and hard isnt spinner supposed to end at 03:01:279 - like the other diffs well this is debatable, but i think hard is still too "easy" for a late spinner

[Normal]
00:36:451 (2,1) - over 50% of sliderhead is covered, fix pls fixed
01:01:279 - this should be mapped imo, the pause feels weird cuz drum is still playing yep

[Adv]
00:06:658 (1,2,3) - this rhythm doesnt fit, would b better imo if start (3) at 00:07:279 - the rhythm is tricky that's for sure, but it's fine, (3) is currently mapped on the down beat, which is a big deal, if it wasn't, the rhythm would feel even more confusing
00:41:106 (2,3) - ^
00:49:693 (2,2) - idk if this is a issue or not but 2nd slider appears before the first slider disappears, might be hard to read for beginners ? it should be okay, i had that in mind while mapping it, but (2) should be the only thing the player want to click on next, so it should be okay
02:36:451 (5) - ctrl+g flows better imo (nazi yea i agree but i have to use DS for adv

[Extra]
00:32:003 (4) - should spilt this to 2 circles instead to make it constant with similiar rhythms yes
01:52:175 (5) - 01:53:003 (5) - nc added

this map is great o.o

good luck!

Ekoro wrote:

Gave tiny feedbacks about the two last diffs. Some tiny things suggested, but overall, both diffs are playable (by top players at least), there aren't any (or not much, at least) flow breaker patterns, etc.

blablabla meow meow woof woof

15:24 Ekoro: ok c'est parti
15:24 *Ekoro is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/857624 UNDEAD CORPORATION - Flowering Night Fever [Wolf's Night]]
15:26 Alheak: dac
15:26 Alheak: jvais relevé pour lui
15:26 Alheak: il dort tout le temps
15:27 Ekoro: lol
15:27 Ekoro: j'vais poster mon avis et aussi pointer quelques trucs
15:27 Ekoro: vite fait
15:27 Alheak: dac
15:27 Ekoro: 00:54:141 (3) - pourquoi pas de new combo sur ces patterns? la partie d'après en a ok
15:28 Ekoro: ça pourrait en plus faciliter les gens qui jouent la map
15:30 Ekoro: 01:01:692 - j'trouve que y'a un vide ici, fin c'est peut-être que moi mais j'trouve que des 1/1 sur ce type de musique c'est assez déstabilisant
15:30 Ekoro: j'aurai mis deux cercles de plus avant 01:01:796 (7,8,9) - parce que c'est des ghost notes (oui oui y a bien des notes, même entre chaque stream/triplés), mais elles sont à peine audibles, et j'aime pas mapper des trucs inaudibles sur ce genre de difficulté
15:30 Ekoro: fin après il suit parfaitement la musique, ce qui est compréhensible
15:31 Ekoro: j'ai pas suivi à 100% Everything will freeze, j'ai ajouté quelques notes parce que ça joue mieux (et ça appuie davantage les streams)
15:31 Ekoro: ici j'aurai ajouté deux notes, m'enfin ça reste que mon avis oui oui je comprends :p
15:32 Ekoro: 01:08:003 - same here, ou au moins j'aurai remplacé 01:07:899 (1,2) par un slider Pareil, les notes sont à peine audible, puis ça donne un léger break avant les streams (et empêche le mash vu que c'est stacké mwahahaha)
15:32 Ekoro: 01:25:279 (1,2,3) - 01:27:037 (6,7,8,9) - j'suis un peu perdu sur ces deux trucs Je suppose que c'est trop stacké et ça confonds avec les 1/4s, du coup j'ai augmenté le spacing
15:32 Alheak: wé puis ça fait contraste avec les pattern précédent
15:32 Ekoro: la musique appuie pas assez pour ces patterns j'trouve
15:33 Ekoro: 01:31:899 (1,2,3,4,5) - changer de spacing sur le 01:32:175 (5) - paraît risqué ; pourquoi pas changer le spacing à 01:32:312 (7), en plus ça suit un rythme 1/1, plus facile pour le joueur je pense J'me trompe peut-être, mais à cette vitesse je trouve que les joueurs voient plutôt ça comme un stream à 217bpm au lieu d'1/3s à 290, mais c'est surtout à cause de 01:32:243 (6) - cette note que le tournant ce fait sur le 5
15:34 Ekoro: 01:37:692 (1,2,3,4,5) - je vois à peu près comment c'est (j'ai déjà vu ça plusieurs fois) mais je sais pas si ça serait un peu trop chaud à jouer En vrai ce stream suce et ne suit même pas la musique, du coup je l'ai refait
15:37 Ekoro: rien d'autre à dire
15:37 Ekoro: y'a pas de pattern flow-breaker, ça suit bien la musique, les streams sont pas trop spaced donc le 290 BPM est jouable
15:37 Ekoro: (j'parle de "pas spaced" mais j'fais le contraire sur ma map lol)
15:38 Alheak: dac
15:38 Alheak: on avait pas mal de plaintes sur les lignes droites de 1/2s
15:38 Alheak: il a nerf quelques unes
15:38 Ekoro: c'est assez dur oui
15:38 Ekoro: c'est sûr que leur donner une forme plus adaptée ça serait mieux, m'enfin si l'idée de ce passage c'est de faire un pattern en ligne (je l'ai vu plusieurs fois)
15:39 Ekoro: ça reste que mon avis mais
15:39 Ekoro: je préfère séparer les lignes en 3 lignes distinctes
15:39 Alheak: 3 cercles?
15:40 Ekoro: nah j'veux dire
15:40 Ekoro: au lieu de faire un seul bloc, on pourrait faire un truc du genre https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4487702
15:40 Ekoro: (pas aussi spaced mais tu vois l'idée)
15:40 Ekoro: j'trouve ça plus facile imo
15:41 Alheak: oh je vois
15:41 Ekoro: 02:13:279 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - ici je vois plus un pattern entier formant un "triangle"
15:41 Ekoro: c'est p'tet ça qui le rend plus difficile
15:41 Ekoro: faire 3 patterns (une ligne chacun), chacun séparée sur la map, ça marcherait aussi Mhhh ça a du sens, j'ai changé les 2 premiers pour un truc de ce genre, ça devrait être + simple à lire et jouer now
15:42 Alheak: oui

Ekoro wrote:

I AM SORRY

Linada wrote:

[Ekoro]

Ekoro wrote:

I AM SORRY

RIP fingers 2k16

00:48:865 - 01:01:899 rip stamina o/ (no sliders ?) the music gets really intense here, the triplets makes it all. i do think that sliders would make it less "emphasizing", and i don't know where i'd place them anyway

Linada wrote:

hi random mod o/ don't kudo if no changes please holy fuck that BG i love it

[Insane]
AR9 and 290BPM, looks like AR7 on 180BPM, raise it to 9.3/4? it's mapped like a 145bpm song, the streams aren't supposed to be singletapped
01:26:106 (9) - NC this part has a NC every 2 measures, and I want to keep that consistency
This diff looks weird, but i guess 290BPM can't help for 4.3 stars

[Extra]
found nothing o/

I got RSI from modding o/

Good luck !

dermit wrote:

I'll see if I can find something to mod:

Normal

01:09:555 (3,4) This might look nicer if you moved the cirle outside for a bit? The (4) to the left that is. yea changed this part a bit

01:38:520 (1,1) - I don't think I like these two sliders - the most emphasized part of the guitar solo (the bend) is left with no representation. Maybe make the slider shorter and add a circle? Not sure I use very few circles in this difficulty, of course those sliders are underwhelming but that's just how it goes

Advanced

I found nothing apart from too many 1/4 sliders :^)

Hard

00:06:451 (7,8,1,2) - I think this pattern doesn't play well at all, but maybe that's me - but there's a note playing in the middle of the slider so there's definitely other ways to map this - your call. changed the triple

00:13:072 (7,8,1,2) - ^ ^

01:05:830 (2,3,4) - this is really hard to play - I don't know if it's fitting for this diff? it should play the same as a slider->stream, the repeat might be confusing to read to i think it's okay for a Hard

01:10:796 (3,4,5) - ^ ^

01:24:451 (3,4) - Doesn't the beat that is a sliderend here warrant more emphasis than 01:26:003 (3) - and 01:26:830 (6) - ? I don't understand what you are trying to say here, but I think I have an idea, if I only mapped a slider end here and put a circle for the other despite them being less important, it's just because we don't have a lot of choice in patterns for Hard, and anyway 01:24:658 - has nothing on it to justify stopping the slider there

02:19:899 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This might need reworked spacing, make distances between 1,2,3,4 consistant and distances between 5,6,7,8 - or you could have a gradual increase in distance well they're consistent, just gradually increasing every 3 circles

Insane

01:50:934 (3,4) - These could work as a slider repeating twice, that way you would be able to emphasize the lead guitar as well yes, but I don't want to break the flow here, as I don't think the guitar strokes are enough to justify breaking it

02:38:520 (2,3,4,5) - repeating sliders instead please I might consider this with more feedback, it's sure is challenging but it's only 217bpm doubles basically

Rest is too hard. Sorry didn't really find anything major, I guess that means the map is good though right? :^)

Also holy shit ekoro's diff

Biwa Hoshi wrote:

I insist that pishi's diff should have higher cs, its kinda hard to read

Biwa Hoshi wrote:

I mean, cs 2 with ar 9.6 its like playing ez mode with high ar which looks, weird. Imo the diff should have at least cs 4, it would be so much more fun to play

Ekoro wrote:

Biwa Hoshi wrote:

I mean, cs 2 with ar 9.6 its like playing ez mode with high ar which looks, weird. Imo the diff should have at least cs 4, it would be so much more fun to play

Looking at pishi's diff, it was specifically made with CS2. The spacing is high enough to make it playable.
I know that the AR and the CS makes it fast as hell, but that could be a challenge, heh.
The diff is very good, and CS2 makes it even more special. Using CS4 would increase the global spacing a lot, anyway.

pishifat wrote:

what he said yeah

Linada wrote:

[Wolf]
01:01:692 - missing the beat ? Yes, it's intended.
02:04:589 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - really hard to read Yes, but so is the map in general, and this isn't harder to read than the previous similar patterns.