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The Ventures - Sleigh Ride

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Sotarks
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on mardi 29 décembre 2015 at 19:34:16

Artist: The Ventures
Title: Sleigh Ride
Tags: Christmas Joy HB24 -Nya- Aihuro
BPM: 180
Filesize: 2247kb
Play Time: 00:56
Difficulties Available:
  1. Aihu's Hard (3,28 stars, 176 notes)
  2. Gift (4,26 stars, 217 notes)
  3. HB's Easy (1,36 stars, 62 notes)
  4. Nya's Normal (2,11 stars, 109 notes)
Download: The Ventures - Sleigh Ride
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Merry Christmas


#2

Easy - by HB24
Normal - by -Nya-
Hard - by Aihuro
Gift - by Sotarks


JBHyperion
I can't be sure this is that great since I don't know what rhythms you're going to follow - on several occasions the guitar and drum rhythms are offset from each other which makes things messy - but should be enough to be getting on with I guess. By all means get someone else to check this >.<

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-Nya-
Finished with my diff. Not sure about my timing points though. Hitsounds are added. Remember to add me to the tags. If there are any problems just tell me.

Nya's Normal
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Artist:The Ventures
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Creator:Sotarks
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Source:Christmas Joy
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Here's my BG: http://puu.sh/m2lA7/23f66e8ed7.jpg
-Nya-
Here's my update again:

Nya's Normal
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Sotarks
All updated~
Waiting for Aihuro's Hard and we're ready !
Aihuro
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Sotarks
Okay ready~ !
Kalibe
Go go !
Aihuro
Just a quick update:

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meii18
Here is my insane difficult

Insane
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98,100,10745,2,0,P|66:130|60:181,1,80
72,315,11110,1,0,0:0:0:0:
196,344,11292,1,0,0:0:0:0:
94,229,11475,1,0,0:0:0:0:
124,377,11657,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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405,224,12569,1,0,0:0:0:0:
449,343,12751,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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34,337,13846,1,0,0:0:0:0:
68,189,14028,2,0,P|69:130|156:142,1,160
71,263,14575,2,0,P|25:251|2:222,1,80
20,75,14940,5,0,0:0:0:0:
125,147,15122,1,0,0:0:0:0:
103,20,15305,1,0,0:0:0:0:
43,159,15487,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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176,309,16034,1,0,0:0:0:0:
325,335,16216,6,0,P|374:323|432:347,1,80
251,307,16581,2,0,P|273:274|309:259,1,80
455,211,16946,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,109,17128,1,0,0:0:0:0:
386,261,17311,1,0,0:0:0:0:
455,126,17493,1,0,0:0:0:0:
328,209,17675,6,0,P|309:247|326:303,1,80
356,136,18040,2,0,P|316:132|264:163,1,80
159,239,18405,1,0,0:0:0:0:
75,142,18587,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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266,231,19134,6,0,B|290:188|290:188|289:125|289:125|321:76,1,160
421,13,19681,1,0,0:0:0:0:
453,161,19864,2,0,P|451:229|364:198,1,160
289,99,20411,1,0,0:0:0:0:
289,99,20803,2,0,L|248:130,5,40
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220,59,21847,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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272,93,22564,1,0,0:0:0:0:
123,130,22746,2,0,P|95:171|89:221,1,80
118,348,23108,1,0,0:0:0:0:
269,342,23289,1,0,0:0:0:0:
131,271,23471,6,0,P|91:277|57:300,1,80
207,269,23833,2,0,P|192:223|154:201,1,80
26,147,24196,1,0,0:0:0:0:
81,31,24377,1,0,0:0:0:0:
213,105,24558,2,0,L|261:173,1,80
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32,301,25465,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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258,326,26190,1,0,0:0:0:0:
370,224,26371,1,0,0:0:0:0:
299,117,26552,5,0,0:0:0:0:
309,268,26733,1,0,0:0:0:0:
381,133,26915,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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376,230,27459,2,0,P|425:223|451:201,1,80
309,142,27821,6,0,P|253:130|205:149,1,80
382,159,28184,2,0,P|376:109|340:77,1,80
208,62,28546,2,0,P|164:92|156:131,1,80
160,268,28909,1,0,0:0:0:0:
299,327,29090,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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84,373,29806,1,0,0:0:0:0:
212,290,29985,2,0,P|265:270|284:235,1,80
285,100,30342,1,0,0:0:0:0:
284,99,30699,6,0,B|237:76|202:89|202:89|162:109|111:89,1,160
19,27,31235,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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308,57,32128,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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454,205,32712,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,276,32891,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,131,33071,1,0,0:0:0:0:
383,234,33251,1,0,0:0:0:0:
383,234,33341,1,0,0:0:0:0:
383,234,33430,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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283,119,35428,2,0,P|243:128|186:39,1,160
336,55,35973,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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374,277,36519,5,0,0:0:0:0:
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146,230,37250,1,0,0:0:0:0:
98,85,37433,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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319,285,38530,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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171,35,39079,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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334,131,40177,1,0,0:0:0:0:
449,32,40360,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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189,18,41640,1,0,0:0:0:0:
122,154,41823,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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246,236,42894,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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307,138,47948,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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305,352,49041,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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107,158,50132,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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428,230,50677,1,0,0:0:0:0:
135,324,51041,5,0,0:0:0:0:
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439,328,52482,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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14,356,53923,6,0,L|20:259,1,80
23,123,54284,1,0,0:0:0:0:
23,123,54644,1,0,0:0:0:0:
267,49,55004,1,0,0:0:0:0:
387,315,55365,5,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,55587,12,0,56793,0:0:0:0:
Exile-
Requested mod

[Merii Kurisumasu~]
  1. 00:04:236 (5,1) - Bad flow and unexpected jump for no reason
  2. 00:17:311 (5) - Blanket
  3. 00:30:342 (5,1) - This could look better
  4. 00:35:064 (1,2) - Since this is blanketed you should also do the same with 00:35:064 (1,3) -
  5. 00:39:079 (4) - You can end this slider on 00:39:353 -
  6. 00:52:482 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Messed spacing, especially at 00:54:284 (3,4,5) -
  7. 000:20:803 - Delete one timing point
  8. 00:20:803 - 00:32:353 - 00:43:809 - Delete these kiais, You should place them after these parts
Merry Christmas!~
Anxient
kantoku op af ~ from #modreqs
HB's Easy
00:13:298 (1) - while its only aethetics, try having the slider bend upwards when it reaches 00:14:028 - theres that really heavy beat. As a easy diff, itll be a nice touch.
00:34:700 (3,4) - i feel like 3 is curved to much. loosen it up a little! http://puu.sh/m79bK/0a1c0679fd.jpg <-- the expected result would be this. also, fix any distancing problems that might arise upon applying this mod.
00:49:586 (3) - try placing this more down, so we get a better triangle. http://puu.sh/m79eM/6536eec354.jpg. i did it by moving it to 327:77. as usual, fix any distancing issues that might arise. This can be easily fixed by moving 00:50:677 (4) - to 80:66. doing this also gives a good slider exit, which is always a plus!

nice diff!
Nya's normal
this diff seems a bit clustered to me. like you know how most of your objects touch each other? i feel like something like that doesnt suit the upcoming year very well. seems very... 2012ish. ah well. into the mod. but keep this in mind. while it may be fine, you'd want your map to look like its best during d-day. also no kantoku bg i am sad :<

00:02:424 (3) - try curving this one a bit. it kinda looks stiff doesnt it? imo not very appropriate for a funky song like this. add a middle point at 311:133, rotate by 9 degrees and move to 278:86 is what i would do. http://puu.sh/m79Bj/9c4d6c045c.jpg <-- expected result

these three mods support each other so if you do one of them, you might as well do all of them:
00:07:137 (2) - while this might not serve any purpose, i would prefer if you stack this with 00:04:599 (1) -
00:07:499 (1) - blanket with 00:05:324 (2) - slider start is a bit off. go fix that. move to 192:143. coincidentally, it also fixes the distance inconsistency with 00:08:221 (2) - so win win situation!

00:10:381 - i think you forgot the kiai bro.
00:10:381 (1) - make this into a crooked slider, to mirror this 00:11:839 (1) - consistency is important.
00:16:216 (1,1) - same with this. you can either make them both crooked sliders or smooth slider.
00:19:134 (1) - well this looks overdone. try doing this http://puu.sh/m79SW/5ebf2d2a41.jpg. it mightve looked worse than before, but hey! at least it isnt stiff!
code for the slider
384,104,19134,6,0,B|337:144|345:215|345:215|299:255|305:324|305:324|259:260|190:269,1,360,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
00:20:803 (1) - fix the spacing assuming that you applied the above mod.
00:23:108 (3) - i recommend turning this into a curve slider to mirror this 00:24:558 (3) - i recommend curve coz you dont want the map looking too stiff.
00:24:558 (3,1) - rotate 3 by -13 and adjust 1 to make it look more like a curve. http://puu.sh/m7a1Q/1425515d10.jpg expected result.
00:26:733 (2,3,4) - this looks rather stiff dont you think? http://puu.sh/m7a4A/312bfdbbe7.jpg try curving em. it mightve made them look worse tho so idk. it really is up to you.
00:30:342 (3,1) - same issue with the "make this thing look more like a curve thingie"
00:32:353 (1) - madness! why isnt this a curve? :<
00:39:811 (2,3) - theres a term i like to use called slider entry. http://puu.sh/m7abg/fbb531ee43.jpg i actually made a sorta pic to show what slider entry is. the green one is the ideal position for the next note, while the red? not so. anyway to fix this, all you have to do is rotate 3 by 9 degrees. that should fix it. also fix any distance issues that may arise.
00:41:640 (3) - use 00:43:077 (3) - slider for the perfect mirror!
00:50:313 (2) - curve? itll make it look less stiff. http://puu.sh/m7aks/953c9ec470.jpg

most of my suggestions are visual. like how they would look. use your judgement to pick out which would be best for your map. also, throughout the map, i see varying distance snapping, fom 0.97x to 10.3x. or somewhere around that. take a good look at your map and fix those..

diff needs some work but otherwise fine.
Aihu's Hard
well this diff looks dank! thank peppy that this isnt like alot of the clustered hard diffs i see.

00:03:511 (2,3,4) - better make this stack. that small DS stream looks super awkward.
00:06:049 (6) - this slider covers alot of powerful beats so maybe make it into a 1/2 slider + hitcircle? try doing this http://puu.sh/m7azG/17ad80e276.jpg
00:07:499 (1) - overmap
00:14:757 (6) - try using a curve here. i mean, youre already using it in 00:15:122 (1) - coz it looks kinda stiff.
00:21:498 (4,5,6) - might wanna force move this somewhere buddy. that auto stack tho. do something like this http://puu.sh/m7aG1/8e7ac8363a.jpg. fix any distancing issues that may arise upon fixing this.
00:22:746 (3) - overmap
00:24:196 (3,4,5) - overmap
00:25:646 (3) - overmap
00:27:459 (4,5,6) - overmap
00:30:521 (4,5) - you need a prize. overmapped. seriously. doing this is fine too ya know. http://puu.sh/m7aMN/6bbe0e74b5.jpg
00:33:251 (6,7,8) - buddy the triple doesnt belong in 7 it belongs in 6. http://puu.sh/m7aR4/8cbdfa5795.jpg, http://puu.sh/m7aRD/d3e7af09e1.jpg
00:41:457 (6,7) - ayy overmap!
00:56:793 (1) - this note sounds off tune to me.

to be honest, the diff is amazing. i love it, but there are so many overmapped triples. go adress those issues mk?
ByBy's insane
no comment yet...? maybe ill find something to talk about in this map.

00:00:350 (1,2) - kinda surprised you didnt go for the 4 hit slider repeat spam. 00:00:687 - 00:01:361 - those two points are kinda emphasized ya know?
00:07:860 (2) - this looks too curved. make it less curvy. http://puu.sh/m7b3M/c391fdcabb.jpg
00:08:221 (3,4,5,6,1) - kinda triggers me that you didnt use polygon objects for this.
00:11:110 (3,4,5,6) - ^
00:13:298 (1) - actually going for the wavy slider instead of the lagged slider might be a better approach. http://puu.sh/m7baS/738a657f97.jpg <-- horribly created slider
00:14:940 (1,2,3,4,5) - POLYGOOONS (whatever you might have your own reasons for doing this. not gonna comment on this anymore)
00:16:216 (1,2) - might be better to do a slider blanket instead of a slider head blanket
00:43:809 (1,2,3,4) - you did a 4 hit slider spam here :< so Y U NO DO 4 HIT WITH THE OTHERS DDDDD:
00:49:586 (1,3) - sliderblanket not perfect enough bruh

legit nothing to comment on. a little bit too messy for my tastes though. but its probably just me.
メリークリスマス
coz im a weeb

00:00:350 (1,2,3,4) - 4 hit sliders are nice and all, but id prefer if you used the same slider. example 1 and 3 use the same slider, 2 and 4 too. to keep that consistency. also looks neater.
00:08:583 (6) - kinda hard to read. put this out more. its practically inside the slider.
00:24:014 (2) - this as well. its inside the slider.
00:30:342 (5,1) - haha what is this.
00:32:353 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - please tell me you used polygon shapes for this.
00:40:908 (1,3) - rip blanket
00:41:640 (3,4) - why not do something similar to 00:40:908 (1,2) - this? consistency is a good thing you know
00:43:809 (1,3) - use the same slider.
00:48:859 (3,1) - stack 1 better please
00:51:761 (3,4,5) - this looks random. make it into a shape or something. i dont know? a triangle?
00:55:365 - why doesnt anyone make this clickable jeez. its so heavy the beat.

well this is an improvement from what ive seen from the last map! nice going there!

good luck!
Topic Starter
Sotarks
[Sotarks' Mod Reply]
  1. pink = stuff fixed
  2. purple = i take it in consideration but keep it like that for the moment
  3. red = missunderstanding
  4. dark blue = keep my own patern

Hanczer wrote:

Requested mod

[Merii Kurisumasu~]
  1. 00:04:236 (5,1) - Bad flow and unexpected jump for no reason //Okay,I changed the place of the first slider...
  2. 00:17:311 (5) - Blanket //Fixed
  3. 00:30:342 (5,1) - This could look better //Okay, i stacked them
  4. 00:35:064 (1,2) - Since this is blanketed you should also do the same with 00:35:064 (1,3) - //okay
  5. 00:39:079 (4) - You can end this slider on 00:39:353 - //nah
  6. 00:52:482 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Messed spacing, especially at 00:54:284 (3,4,5) - //fixed
  7. 000:20:803 - Delete one timing point //yup done
  8. 00:20:803 - 00:32:353 - 00:43:809 - Delete these kiais, You should place them after these parts //mmh no i like those short kiai
Merry Christmas!~

Thanks for the mod Hanczer-san !
:D

Anxient wrote:

kantoku op af ~ from #modreqs
メリークリスマス
coz im a weeb

00:00:350 (1,2,3,4) - 4 hit sliders are nice and all, but id prefer if you used the same slider. example 1 and 3 use the same slider, 2 and 4 too. to keep that consistency. also looks neater. //Okay, fixed
00:08:583 (6) - kinda hard to read. put this out more. its practically inside the slider. //Not really imo, but if someone say this again i'll change it tho..
00:24:014 (2) - this as well. its inside the slider. //i like this one so no.
00:30:342 (5,1) - haha what is this. //it's a slider doode, hope I helped
00:32:353 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - please tell me you used polygon shapes for this. //No, I didn't.. Don't even know what the heck is this xD
00:40:908 (1,3) - rip blanket //why rip?
00:41:640 (3,4) - why not do something similar to 00:40:908 (1,2) - this? consistency is a good thing you know //Fine like that imo
00:43:809 (1,3) - use the same slider. //Yep, fixed
00:48:859 (3,1) - stack 1 better please //On what lol
00:51:761 (3,4,5) - this looks random. make it into a shape or something. i dont know? a triangle? //It's actually a triangle lol
00:55:365 - why doesnt anyone make this clickable jeez. its so heavy the beat. //to fuck you up <3 nah but i like ths spinner here uguu~

well this is an improvement from what ive seen from the last map! nice going there!

good luck!
Harashoo~ Thanks for the mod dude, I apreciate ;)
Vespirit
Hey dude, nice Christmas map! here is a short mod :)

[ HB's Easy]


  1. 00:27:821 (1,2,3) - seeing as it goes straight down it looks a bit weird, so maybe move (2) over to the left a bit and adjust ds of (1)?

[ Nya's Normal]


  1. 00:53:203 (3,4) - make it a 1/1 slider? goes with the music better imo

[ ByBy's Insane]


  1. 00:01:024 (2) - I think 2 short reverse sliders work better because there is a pretty strong sound halfway through it at 00:01:361
  2. 00:15:669 (5) - feels awkward not clicking on the end of this
  3. 00:20:411 (4) - no sound where this is? or at least, its not strong enough to be clicking on, so maybe change 00:19:864 (3) to 2 1/2 sliders

[ Merii Kurisumasu~]


  1. 00:22:564 (2) - maybe stack on the next slider instead of the previous one? plays better to me
  2. 00:24:014 (2) - ^

aihuro's diff I can't find anything. most of these are just suggestions, so I hope this helps :P. Merry Christmas and good luck!
Topic Starter
Sotarks

HydroCannon13 wrote:

Hey dude, nice Christmas map! here is a short mod :)

[ Merii Kurisumasu~]


  1. 00:22:564 (2) - maybe stack on the next slider instead of the previous one? plays better to me //nah better like this
  2. 00:24:014 (2) - ^ ^

aihuro's diff I can't find anything. most of these are just suggestions, so I hope this helps :P. Merry Christmas and good luck!
Thanks for the mod dude :)
FCL
Hi friends!
  • [HB24]
  1. 00:15:122 (3) - 2/1 looks weird for rhythm here, i recommend to try 1/1 slider+circle
  2. 00:26:733 (3) - same

  • [Nya]
  1. 00:09:310 (1,2) - i don't like that you missed some important beats, this rhythm much better, i guess http://puu.sh/m82uq/7a11accc3b.jpg
  2. 00:19:134 (1) - don't like tail here, curved maybe?
  3. 00:21:323 (2,3) - aaaaa same as 00:09:310 (1,2)

  • [Aihuro]
  1. 00:07:860 (2,6) - neeed stack with end
  2. 00:26:552 - map this tick
  3. 00:28:909 (4) - maybe 3/4+circle, i think it's more fine for rhythm

  • [ByBy]
  1. 00:05:324 (3) - spacing between (3) and (4) should be less (sound of guitar is not as strong as further) Suggest put (3) to 405 137 imoimoimo
  2. 00:11:475 (5,6) - same things
  3. 00:26:552 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - looks a bit dirty since you put too much patters here
  4. 00:40:177 (3,5) - improve this blanket maybe?
  5. 00:41:274 (2,5) - hmmm same i guess
  6. 00:43:443 (4,2) - fix overlap
  7. 00:43:809 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - hmmm, same as 00:26:552 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4)
  8. 00:53:923 (1,2,3) - straight flow will be better

  • [Sotarks]
  1. 00:00:350 (1,2,3,4) - spacing looks randomly, maybe maintained a constant distance
  2. 00:08:953 (1,2) - why? It's not fine for playing. Constant distance pls
  3. 00:44:498 (3,4) - same as early
nice
Topic Starter
Sotarks
[Sotarks' Mod Reply]
  1. pink = stuff fixed
  2. purple = i take it in consideration but keep it like that for the moment
  3. red = missunderstanding
  4. dark blue = keep my own patern

FCL wrote:

Hi friends!
  • [Sotarks]
  1. 00:00:350 (1,2,3,4) - spacing looks randomly, maybe maintained a constant distance //fine like that tho
  2. 00:08:953 (1,2) - why? It's not fine for playing. Constant distance pls //emphasized bro ...
  3. 00:44:498 (3,4) - same as early //still fine xD
nice
Even if i fixed anything thanks for your mod dude :D
riffy
Let's continue what we've started.

[General]
  1. Is Christmas Joy the name of the album? If that's the case - it should be in the tags.
  2. Unless the song is realted to anime in some way, I'd prefer to see something non-anime related. Unless the song is strongly associated with suggestively dressed girls, of course.
  3. There are a lot of technical inconsistencies/conflicts like the ones you can see here. The best way to find and solve them is to use the AutoMod tool
[HB's Easy]
  1. Due to the way this song works (timing shifts) I'd recommend to use easy diff settings. HP 2 sounds more reasonable in this case.
  2. 00:30:699 (1,1) - minor - the DS gets slightly lower than it should be here.
  3. 00:33:610 (2) - I'd consider adding a new combo here for the music/BPM changes.

    Seems to be a decent Easy. A little tricky, but it's fine as the nature of the track demands it.
[Nya's Normal]
  1. 00:32:353 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - the amount of 1/2s you put here is quite a serious one. Why don't you try to replace 00:33:430 (4) - by adding a repeat to 00:33:071 (3)? That might make this difficulty a little more playable.
  2. 00:37:433 (3) - the stronger beat at 00:37:616 - is left unclickable, which results in rather questionable feedback players recieve from this slider. It'd be better to replace it with a single circle on the white tick or a couple of circles. This could do, too.
    Note: 00:49:222 (4) - something similar happens here. The beat on the tail of the slider is much stronger, than the one on the head. Hence, 00:49:586 - this point needs a clickable object. Just in case you forgot

    Just a few things I didn't like. The rest seems more or less alright.
[Aihu's Hard]
  1. 00:02:786 (4) - try to replace that with an 1/2 slider and a circle? The big white line is a strong downbeat and it is better, when such beats have something to click on.
    Note: something similar happens to 00:04:055 (6) - 00:11:475 (5) - and quite a few other patterns. Have a read at this, this might be interesting!
  2. 00:14:940 - as the music changes at this point, replacing (5) with two circles to give a proper emphasis to each of the beats might be a good idea.
  3. 00:18:314 (3) - isn't the triplet overmapped? There is practically nothing to map on that beat, hence the triplet feels overdone. Please, keep in mind that Hard diffs are not meant to follow everything the song gives, it's a good idea to leave some 1/4s unmapped.
    Note: there're more of those, like 00:24:286 (4) - so, please, be sure to check this properl and consider reducing the amount of 1/4s.
  4. 00:20:803 (1,2,3,4,5) - - that is quite a difficult part. Why don't we reduce the difficuly here by simplifying this part? example
    Note: sliders like the ones on the screenshot are much easier to play as they don't require any intense actons from the player.
  5. 00:26:371 (1) - I'd prefer to have more objects instead of the slider as the guitar goes intense 1/2 beat here.
  6. 00:48:313 (1) - feels too weak in comparison with the other beats. Either drop this circle out or try to make it a slidertail. A picture

    This needs quite a lot of changes, from my point of view. Although the patterns are not bad and it seems to be a neat difficulty.
[ByBy's Insane]

There we've had a conversation with the mapper. I pointed out stuff I dislike.

IRC log
14:49 *Bakari is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/816636 Sound Horizon - Utsukushiki Mono [Treasure]]
14:49 Bakari: Do you have anything to add?
14:50 ByBy13: hmm
14:50 ByBy13: seems that the mapper didn't fix what I said on my mod o.o
14:51 ByBy13: also
14:51 ByBy13: 05:40:692 (3,4,5)- on other patterns like this from this kiai the mapper used a jump but here didn't
14:53 ByBy13: which is inconsistent with other jumps from this kiai with the same pattern :/
14:53 Bakari: Then go and point it.
14:54 ByBy13: okay
14:54 ByBy13: but I won't pop the bubble
15:06 ByBy13: it's fine
15:06 ByBy13: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/4762061#p4762061?
15:06 ByBy13: what I've wrote
15:07 Bakari: As long as you believe in what you say - I've no issues with that
15:08 ByBy13: okay
15:08 ByBy13: just joined to the discussion
15:23 ByBy13: also
15:23 *ByBy13 is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/861473 The Ventures - Sleigh Ride]
15:23 ByBy13: it's a christmas map.Would you like to mod it?
15:24 ByBy13: it's not mine but Sotarks asked me to ask you
15:24 Bakari: Why can't Sotarks ask me directly?
15:24 ByBy13: okay
15:25 Bakari: I'm quite alright with checking it as long as they ask me directly
15:25 ByBy13: ok
15:43 *Bakari is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/861473 The Ventures - Sleigh Ride [ByBy's Insane]]
15:43 Bakari: 00:02:605 (4,5) - the jump is unreasonable. there is nothing that'd be reasonable enough at (4)
15:44 Bakari: 00:07:499 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - alright, we get it, the guitar is asking for jumps
15:44 Bakari: 00:09:667 (4,5,6) - but at this point the guitar is getting more intense and jumps - don't
15:45 Bakari: http://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/7helihxH.png meanwhile
15:47 Bakari: 00:41:823 (4,5) - yet again, no reason for the jump here
15:48 Bakari: basic DS choice seems to be too intense, resulting in sliders feeling way too slow in comparison with the other hitobjects

Overall, I do not really agree with the way it is mapped and would love to hear more opinions.

[Meri Kurisumasu~]
Misspelled diffnames are popular this year, huh? I'd prefer something less anime-stylized.
  1. 00:08:221 (5,6) - stacks are a good way to slowdown the player. But is it necessary here? I'd give them a good after-slider jump, the music isn't asking for breaks/stops.
  2. 00:18:952 (6,1) - sorry to spoil such a cute pattern, but is there a reason for this jump?
    Note: 00:25:102 (2,3) - same.
  3. 00:20:803 (1,2,3,4) - as the instruments here sounds 1/2-ish, I'd try to introduce sliders. See if you like this idea.
  4. 00:27:821 (1,2,3) - yet, this would do good as a jumpy pattern. + it'd benefit from unstacking (2), in my opinion.
  5. 00:30:342 (5) - let's snap the tail to 00:30:521 - where the actual audible beat is.
  6. 00:31:056 (2) - more circls instead of sliders? It feels like this point could benefit greately from more stuff to click on.

    It got better since the last time we've talked. Good job!
The set isn't bad but it might get a lot better if we push more efforts into it.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Best of luck!
Topic Starter
Sotarks
[Sotarks' Mod Reply]
  1. pink = stuff fixed
  2. purple = i take it in consideration but keep it like that for the moment
  3. red = missunderstanding
  4. dark blue = keep my own patern

Bakari wrote:

Let's continue what we've started.

[General]
  1. Is Christmas Joy the name of the album? If that's the case - it should be in the tags.
  2. Unless the song is realted to anime in some way, I'd prefer to see something non-anime related. Unless the song is strongly associated with suggestively dressed girls, of course.
  3. There are a lot of technical inconsistencies/conflicts like the ones you can see here. The best way to find and solve them is to use the AutoMod tool
[Meri Kurisumasu~]
Misspelled diffnames are popular this year, huh? I'd prefer something less anime-stylized.
  1. 00:08:221 (5,6) - stacks are a good way to slowdown the player. But is it necessary here? I'd give them a good after-slider jump, the music isn't asking for breaks/stops. //Okay I changed this, good idea..
  2. 00:18:952 (6,1) - sorry to spoil such a cute pattern, but is there a reason for this jump? Yeah okay, i moved he patern.
    Note: 00:25:102 (2,3) - same. //yes also i changed the patern
  3. 00:20:803 (1,2,3,4) - as the instruments here sounds 1/2-ish, I'd try to introduce sliders. See if you like this idea. //hell yes LOL
  4. 00:27:821 (1,2,3) - yet, this would do good as a jumpy pattern. + it'd benefit from unstacking (2), in my opinion. for this one I'l keep it like that tho, i quit like it..
  5. 00:30:342 (5) - let's snap the tail to 00:30:521 - where the actual audible beat is. //okay
  6. 00:31:056 (2) - more circls instead of sliders? It feels like this point could benefit greately from more stuff to click on. //okay good idea :)

    It got better since the last time we've talked. Good job!
The set isn't bad but it might get a lot better if we push more efforts into it.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Best of luck!
Thanks for the mod Bakari! I apeciate this <3
Starset

Bakari wrote:

Let's continue what we've started.


[HB's Easy]
  1. Due to the way this song works (timing shifts) I'd recommend to use easy diff settings. HP 2 sounds more reasonable in this case.
  2. 00:30:699 (1,1) - minor - the DS gets slightly lower than it should be here.
  3. 00:33:610 (2) - I'd consider adding a new combo here for the music/BPM changes.

    Seems to be a decent Easy. A little tricky, but it's fine as the nature of the track demands it.

Best of luck!
Fixed everything thanks!
-Nya-
I will reply to the mods soon~

Anxient wrote:

Nya's normal
this diff seems a bit clustered to me. like you know how most of your objects touch each other? i feel like something like that doesnt suit the upcoming year very well. seems very... 2012ish. ah well. into the mod. but keep this in mind. while it may be fine, you'd want your map to look like its best during d-day. also no kantoku bg i am sad :< Lol! 2012-ish? You are funny. Overlappings in Normals aren't uncommon at all either.

00:02:424 (3) - try curving this one a bit. it kinda looks stiff doesnt it? imo not very appropriate for a funky song like this. add a middle point at 311:133, rotate by 9 degrees and move to 278:86 is what i would do. http://puu.sh/m79Bj/9c4d6c045c.jpg <-- expected result A straight slider is no problem at all. I usually put a straight slider after a curved one.

these three mods support each other so if you do one of them, you might as well do all of them:
00:07:137 (2) - while this might not serve any purpose, i would prefer if you stack this with 00:04:599 (1) - Fixed
00:07:499 (1) - blanket with 00:05:324 (2) - slider start is a bit off. go fix that. move to 192:143. coincidentally, it also fixes the distance inconsistency with 00:08:221 (2) - so win win situation! I already made a change with that slider since I followed the above suggestion.

00:10:381 - i think you forgot the kiai bro. I'm not a "bro" and fixed.
00:10:381 (1) - make this into a crooked slider, to mirror this 00:11:839 (1) - consistency is important. In this case, not really.
00:16:216 (1,1) - same with this. you can either make them both crooked sliders or smooth slider. It really doesn't matter.
00:19:134 (1) - well this looks overdone. try doing this http://puu.sh/m79SW/5ebf2d2a41.jpg. it mightve looked worse than before, but hey! at least it isnt stiff! I appreciate it that you made that slider for me, but it's just not my own style.
code for the slider
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00:20:803 (1) - fix the spacing assuming that you applied the above mod.
00:23:108 (3) - i recommend turning this into a curve slider to mirror this 00:24:558 (3) - i recommend curve coz you dont want the map looking too stiff. I still don't understand how straight sliders can cause stiffness.
00:24:558 (3,1) - rotate 3 by -13 and adjust 1 to make it look more like a curve. http://puu.sh/m7a1Q/1425515d10.jpg expected result. This is a really small issue.
00:26:733 (2,3,4) - this looks rather stiff dont you think? http://puu.sh/m7a4A/312bfdbbe7.jpg try curving em. it mightve made them look worse tho so idk. it really is up to you. Meh, it's fine. Easier to play imo if they are straight.
00:30:342 (3,1) - same issue with the "make this thing look more like a curve thingie" Small issue.
00:32:353 (1) - madness! why isnt this a curve? :< Not everything have to be a curve.
00:39:811 (2,3) - theres a term i like to use called slider entry. http://puu.sh/m7abg/fbb531ee43.jpg i actually made a sorta pic to show what slider entry is. the green one is the ideal position for the next note, while the red? not so. anyway to fix this, all you have to do is rotate 3 by 9 degrees. that should fix it. also fix any distance issues that may arise. Fixed this one I guess.
00:41:640 (3) - use 00:43:077 (3) - slider for the perfect mirror! Fine, fixed.
00:50:313 (2) - curve? itll make it look less stiff. http://puu.sh/m7aks/953c9ec470.jpg Not an issue.

most of my suggestions are visual. like how they would look. use your judgement to pick out which would be best for your map. also, throughout the map, i see varying distance snapping, fom 0.97x to 10.3x. or somewhere around that. take a good look at your map and fix those.. Regarding the distancing: Bakari didn't point anything out about this and imo only distance mistakes that get pointed out by AiMod is a mistake or spacings that are definitely incorrect.

diff needs some work but otherwise fine.
Thanks for the mod~ :D

@HydroCannon13: Using a 1/1 slider or a slider and a circle doesn't really make a difference here, but using a circle instead of a sliderend in this case, emphasizes that beat better imo.

FCL wrote:

  • [Nya]
  1. 00:09:310 (1,2) - i don't like that you missed some important beats, this rhythm much better, i guess http://puu.sh/m82uq/7a11accc3b.jpg I understand, but I'm afraid of adding too many 1/2 rhythms. Apparently a lot of modders have a problem with too many 1/2 patterns. I only used that rhythm at the end.
  2. 00:19:134 (1) - don't like tail here, curved maybe? Uhrr . . . I'm gonna be stubborn here and not fix it since I think it's fine, but if someone else points this out again, then I'll reconsider.
  3. 00:21:323 (2,3) - aaaaa same as 00:09:310 (1,2)
Same explaination as above.
Thanks, FCL~! :)

Bakari wrote:

[Nya's Normal]
  1. 00:32:353 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - the amount of 1/2s you put here is quite a serious one. Why don't you try to replace 00:33:430 (4) - by adding a repeat to 00:33:071 (3)? That might make this difficulty a little more playable. Yeah, I agree. Followed your suggestion.
  2. 00:37:433 (3) - the stronger beat at 00:37:616 - is left unclickable, which results in rather questionable feedback players recieve from this slider. It'd be better to replace it with a single circle on the white tick or a couple of circles. This could do, too. I replaced that short slider with two circles.
    Note: 00:49:222 (4) - something similar happens here. The beat on the tail of the slider is much stronger, than the one on the head. Hence, 00:49:586 - this point needs a clickable object. Just in case you forgot I know about downbeats, thank you. I just thought of it as a subjective thing though. I usually try to make beats like that clickable. Fixed.

    Just a few things I didn't like. The rest seems more or less alright.
Thanks, Bakari-san~! :D

My update
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: The Ventures - Sleigh Ride.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 8952
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Sleigh Ride
TitleUnicode:Sleigh Ride
Artist:The Ventures
ArtistUnicode:The Ventures
Creator:Sotarks
Version:Nya's Normal
Source:Christmas Joy
Tags:Christmas Joy HB24 -Nya- Aihuro ByBy13 ByBy_ChAn
BeatmapID:858395
BeatmapSetID:393080

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:3.5
OverallDifficulty:4
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:1.2
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76,48,32353,6,0,L|36:108,1,60,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
36,156,32712,2,0,P|56:196|56:228,1,60,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
60,272,33071,2,0,P|40:312|40:344,2,60,10|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,244,33610,6,0,P|180:228|224:180,1,120,6|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
252,148,34155,1,8,0:0:0:0:
292,104,34337,2,0,P|337:65|395:54,1,120,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
452,76,34882,1,0,0:0:0:0:
476,132,35064,6,0,P|484:192|472:256,2,120,2|8|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
372,192,36155,1,8,0:0:0:0:
296,284,36519,5,2,0:0:0:0:
176,304,36884,2,0,P|132:268|128:188,1,120
128,148,37433,1,0,0:0:0:0:
160,96,37616,1,0,0:0:0:0:
280,88,37982,6,0,P|356:116|304:352,1,360
208,324,39445,5,0,0:0:0:0:
112,252,39811,1,0,0:0:0:0:
120,132,40177,2,0,P|123:83|136:53,1,60,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,28,40542,2,0,L|244:16,1,60
288,24,40908,5,0,0:0:0:0:
372,108,41274,1,0,0:0:0:0:
380,228,41640,2,0,L|340:352,1,120
284,360,42189,1,0,0:0:0:0:
232,360,42346,6,0,P|188:344|96:364,1,120,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
56,356,42894,1,8,0:0:0:0:
44,296,43077,2,0,L|7:181,1,120,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,88,43809,5,10,0:0:0:0:
216,88,44153,1,10,0:0:0:0:
300,176,44498,1,10,0:0:0:0:
300,296,44843,2,0,L|256:348,1,60,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
204,348,45188,6,0,P|176:308|196:228,1,120,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
216,188,45740,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,144,45924,2,0,P|284:104|264:24,1,120,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
216,24,46476,1,0,0:0:0:0:
160,48,46660,6,0,L|88:164,2,120,2|8|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
276,72,47764,1,8,0:0:0:0:
356,164,48132,5,2,0:0:0:0:
356,284,48495,2,0,B|308:324|308:324|232:336,1,120,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,328,49041,1,0,0:0:0:0:
140,300,49222,2,0,L|92:252,1,60,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,196,49586,1,2,0:0:0:0:
188,116,49950,6,0,L|244:76,1,60,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
292,60,50313,2,0,L|388:144,1,120,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
468,228,51041,5,10,0:0:0:0:
396,324,51401,1,2,0:0:0:0:
276,332,51761,2,0,P|236:316|216:284,1,60,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
204,248,52122,2,0,P|181:228|153:220,1,60,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,204,52482,5,10,0:0:0:0:
92,84,52842,2,0,L|156:44,1,60,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
204,52,53203,2,0,L|254:83,1,60,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
300,124,53563,1,2,0:0:0:0:
348,232,53923,6,0,P|348:292|320:344,1,120,10|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
200,356,54644,1,2,0:0:0:0:
108,280,55004,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,55365,12,0,56793,0:0:0:0:

@Sotarks: Check AiMod. I see confliction between diffs regarding source or something.
Topic Starter
Sotarks
Great~ Easy and Gift updated.
Bonsai
Hiya, from #modreqs~

General
  1. I saw that JBHyperion didn't seem to be very confident about the timing so I took a closer look at it, and most of it was pretty late (seems like he focused more on the drums but even for that it was too late ^^), so I re-did it, here's a diff with my timing so you can easily copypaste it (my mod uses the current timestampst though so maybe you should wait until everybody replied to it, dunno):
    ~
    osu file format v14

    [General]
    AudioFilename: The Ventures - Sleigh Ride.mp3
    AudioLeadIn: 0
    PreviewTime: 8952
    Countdown: 0
    SampleSet: Soft
    StackLeniency: 0.7
    Mode: 0
    LetterboxInBreaks: 0
    WidescreenStoryboard: 1

    [Editor]
    Bookmarks: 5324,10381,13298,16216,19134,20803,22021,29271,32353,33610,39422,43809,45188
    DistanceSpacing: 1.8
    BeatDivisor: 4
    GridSize: 8
    TimelineZoom: 1.1

    [Metadata]
    Title:Sleigh Ride
    TitleUnicode:Sleigh Ride
    Artist:The Ventures
    ArtistUnicode:The Ventures
    Creator:Sotarks
    Version:Bonsai's Timing
    Source:Christmas Joy
    Tags:HB24 -Nya- Aihuro ByBy13 ByBy_ChAn
    BeatmapID:0
    BeatmapSetID:-1

    [Difficulty]
    HPDrainRate:6
    CircleSize:4
    OverallDifficulty:7.5
    ApproachRate:9
    SliderMultiplier:1.8
    SliderTickRate:1

    [Events]
    //Background and Video events
    0,0,"BG.jpg",0,0
    //Break Periods
    //Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
    //Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
    //Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
    //Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
    //Storyboard Sound Samples

    [TimingPoints]
    350,333.333333333333,4,2,1,50,1,0
    1683,362.537764350453,4,2,1,50,1,0
    3141,362.31884057971,4,2,1,50,1,0
    8938,359.281437125748,4,2,1,50,1,0
    10375,364.741641337386,4,2,1,50,1,0
    14751,362.537764350453,4,2,1,50,1,0
    16201,364.298724954463,4,2,1,50,1,0
    20208,384.122919334187,4,2,1,50,1,0
    20592,357.142857142857,4,2,1,50,1,0
    22020,360.36036036036,4,2,1,50,1,0
    24902,362.537764350453,4,2,1,50,1,0
    26352,360.144057623049,4,2,1,50,1,0
    32114,412.087912087912,4,2,1,50,1,0
    32320,360.144057623049,4,2,1,50,1,0
    33580,363.636363636364,4,2,1,50,1,0
    35034,366.97247706422,4,2,1,50,1,0
    37969,364.298724954463,4,2,1,50,1,0
    40883,361.44578313253,4,2,1,50,1,0
    43774,352.941176470588,4,2,1,50,1,0
    45185,364.188163884674,4,2,1,50,1,0
    51012,362.537764350453,4,2,1,50,1,0
    53912,358.208955223881,4,2,1,50,1,0
    56752,360.793746241732,4,2,1,50,1,0


    [Colours]
    Combo1 : 83,113,255
    Combo2 : 255,70,70
    Combo3 : 221,236,255
    Combo4 : 6,121,0
    Combo5 : 234,188,94

    [HitObjects]
    If I see pishifat I'll ask him if he can fix those major inconsistencies in the song at 00:20:592 and 00:32:114 and 00:56:752 - Sadly I can't fix stuff like that because he refuses to tell me how to do it ;_;
  2. Metadata conflicting all over the diffs D:
  3. The hitsounds are barely audible to me in all diffs except the highest one (though it could be even louder imo) and it's inconsistent with the highest diff too, so I'd strongly suggest increasing the volumes to at least those of the highest diff
  4. I feel like the mp3 should fade out earlier and/or stronger/quicklier, the fade-out wasn't noticable to me until around 00:58:238 so in all diffs except the Easy it seems really weird as the song still goes on in pretty much the same volume but there's no map. Or everybody makes the spinner like in the Easy, imo that fits really well (and all of them ending in the same spot would be favourable but not necessary ofc)
  5. Ah you changed the anime-bg while I was timing this, thanks ^^
I also have a few rhythmical issues in some diffs, I don't wanna go into anything else though as I should rest my hands, sry ^^

Nya's Normal
  1. 00:11:475 (3) - 00:12:934 (3) - 00:17:311 (3) - 00:18:770 (3) - 00:23:108 (3) - etc.etc.: The main instrument doesn't have notes on the tails of all of these and equal sliders, so it almost sounds like it's overmapped since you generally never mapped the quiet constant 1/2s in the background, and it is really dense and imo unnecessary for a Normal to map these - I'd highly suggest replacing these with circles or making the previous sliders repeat once
Aihu's Hard
  1. 00:07:499 (1) - 00:22:746 (3) - 00:24:286 (4) - 00:25:646 (3) - 00:27:549 (5) - 00:41:549 (7) - All those blue ticks are overmapped and not supported by the (already incredibly silent) hitsounds at all, + this diff has more 1/4s than the Insane because of this and the Normal doesn't have any 1/4s at all I think, so I highly recommend removing these because it goes completely against the spread and overmaps are really unnecessary on this level of difficulty anyways, there are enough 1/4s without the overmaps too
  2. 00:20:803 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This is extremely unintuitive to play because this ignores the most important notes at 00:20:975 and 00:21:323 as they are on the slidertails and emphasizes rather unimportant notes instead rhythm-wise, and since you ignored the 1/4s with 00:21:672 (6) anyways (which ends on the major downbeat and thus is rather bad too btw) I recommend you to simplify the rest of this combo too, or make it just one triplet and some more repeats, kinda like the Insane (which isn't that good emphasis-wise either though as the white ticks are swallowed there too, the rhythm that I'm suggesting for the Insane is this one, just fyi)
  3. 00:33:251 (6,7,8) - Listen to the song more closely / look at the higher diffs, there is a note at 00:33:341 but none at 00:33:520 so please fix that
ByBy's Insane
  1. 00:20:411 (4) - The note here is barely audible and it isn't mapped in the highest difficulty either so I recommend removing it here too
  2. 00:20:803 (5,6) - This isn't very good emphasis-wise, 00:20:975 is a really important note that should be clickable on this level of difficulty but it's covered by the very unintuitively placed repeatslider, and 00:21:672 should be clickable too, so I suggest this rhythm - Also, it should be NC'd imo
  3. 00:41:640 (3,4) - Why are those circles when previously and afterwards the exact same thing is mapped with sliders? Mapping 00:41:274 (2) with circles would make sense as there are two disticnt drumhits there, but this way doesn't really make any sense : \ (and 00:48:859 (3,4) make sense two because the guitar has two disctinct notes there, but it's not like that at the first time!)
Nice song, good luck guys! :D
Topic Starter
Sotarks
SPOILER

Bonsai wrote:

Hiya, from #modreqs~

General
  1. I saw that JBHyperion didn't seem to be very confident about the timing so I took a closer look at it, and most of it was pretty late (seems like he focused more on the drums but even for that it was too late ^^), so I re-did it, here's a diff with my timing so you can easily copypaste it (my mod uses the current timestampst though so maybe you should wait until everybody replied to it, dunno):
    ~
    osu file format v14

    [General]
    AudioFilename: The Ventures - Sleigh Ride.mp3
    AudioLeadIn: 0
    PreviewTime: 8952
    Countdown: 0
    SampleSet: Soft
    StackLeniency: 0.7
    Mode: 0
    LetterboxInBreaks: 0
    WidescreenStoryboard: 1

    [Editor]
    Bookmarks: 5324,10381,13298,16216,19134,20803,22021,29271,32353,33610,39422,43809,45188
    DistanceSpacing: 1.8
    BeatDivisor: 4
    GridSize: 8
    TimelineZoom: 1.1

    [Metadata]
    Title:Sleigh Ride
    TitleUnicode:Sleigh Ride
    Artist:The Ventures
    ArtistUnicode:The Ventures
    Creator:Sotarks
    Version:Bonsai's Timing
    Source:Christmas Joy
    Tags:HB24 -Nya- Aihuro ByBy13 ByBy_ChAn
    BeatmapID:0
    BeatmapSetID:-1

    [Difficulty]
    HPDrainRate:6
    CircleSize:4
    OverallDifficulty:7.5
    ApproachRate:9
    SliderMultiplier:1.8
    SliderTickRate:1

    [Events]
    //Background and Video events
    0,0,"BG.jpg",0,0
    //Break Periods
    //Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
    //Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
    //Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
    //Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
    //Storyboard Sound Samples

    [TimingPoints]
    350,333.333333333333,4,2,1,50,1,0
    1683,362.537764350453,4,2,1,50,1,0
    3141,362.31884057971,4,2,1,50,1,0
    8938,359.281437125748,4,2,1,50,1,0
    10375,364.741641337386,4,2,1,50,1,0
    14751,362.537764350453,4,2,1,50,1,0
    16201,364.298724954463,4,2,1,50,1,0
    20208,384.122919334187,4,2,1,50,1,0
    20592,357.142857142857,4,2,1,50,1,0
    22020,360.36036036036,4,2,1,50,1,0
    24902,362.537764350453,4,2,1,50,1,0
    26352,360.144057623049,4,2,1,50,1,0
    32114,412.087912087912,4,2,1,50,1,0
    32320,360.144057623049,4,2,1,50,1,0
    33580,363.636363636364,4,2,1,50,1,0
    35034,366.97247706422,4,2,1,50,1,0
    37969,364.298724954463,4,2,1,50,1,0
    40883,361.44578313253,4,2,1,50,1,0
    43774,352.941176470588,4,2,1,50,1,0
    45185,364.188163884674,4,2,1,50,1,0
    51012,362.537764350453,4,2,1,50,1,0
    53912,358.208955223881,4,2,1,50,1,0
    56752,360.793746241732,4,2,1,50,1,0


    [Colours]
    Combo1 : 83,113,255
    Combo2 : 255,70,70
    Combo3 : 221,236,255
    Combo4 : 6,121,0
    Combo5 : 234,188,94

    [HitObjects]
    If I see pishifat I'll ask him if he can fix those major inconsistencies in the song at 00:20:592 and 00:32:114 and 00:56:752 - Sadly I can't fix stuff like that because he refuses to tell me how to do it ;_;
  2. Metadata conflicting all over the diffs D:
  3. The hitsounds are barely audible to me in all diffs except the highest one (though it could be even louder imo) and it's inconsistent with the highest diff too, so I'd strongly suggest increasing the volumes to at least those of the highest diff
  4. I feel like the mp3 should fade out earlier and/or stronger/quicklier, the fade-out wasn't noticable to me until around 00:58:238 so in all diffs except the Easy it seems really weird as the song still goes on in pretty much the same volume but there's no map. Or everybody makes the spinner like in the Easy, imo that fits really well (and all of them ending in the same spot would be favourable but not necessary ofc)
  5. Ah you changed the anime-bg while I was timing this, thanks ^^
I also have a few rhythmical issues in some diffs, I don't wanna go into anything else though as I should rest my hands, sry ^^

Nya's Normal
  1. 00:11:475 (3) - 00:12:934 (3) - 00:17:311 (3) - 00:18:770 (3) - 00:23:108 (3) - etc.etc.: The main instrument doesn't have notes on the tails of all of these and equal sliders, so it almost sounds like it's overmapped since you generally never mapped the quiet constant 1/2s in the background, and it is really dense and imo unnecessary for a Normal to map these - I'd highly suggest replacing these with circles or making the previous sliders repeat once
Aihu's Hard
  1. 00:07:499 (1) - 00:22:746 (3) - 00:24:286 (4) - 00:25:646 (3) - 00:27:549 (5) - 00:41:549 (7) - All those blue ticks are overmapped and not supported by the (already incredibly silent) hitsounds at all, + this diff has more 1/4s than the Insane because of this and the Normal doesn't have any 1/4s at all I think, so I highly recommend removing these because it goes completely against the spread and overmaps are really unnecessary on this level of difficulty anyways, there are enough 1/4s without the overmaps too
  2. 00:20:803 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This is extremely unintuitive to play because this ignores the most important notes at 00:20:975 and 00:21:323 as they are on the slidertails and emphasizes rather unimportant notes instead rhythm-wise, and since you ignored the 1/4s with 00:21:672 (6) anyways (which ends on the major downbeat and thus is rather bad too btw) I recommend you to simplify the rest of this combo too, or make it just one triplet and some more repeats, kinda like the Insane (which isn't that good emphasis-wise either though as the white ticks are swallowed there too, the rhythm that I'm suggesting for the Insane is this one, just fyi)
  3. 00:33:251 (6,7,8) - Listen to the song more closely / look at the higher diffs, there is a note at 00:33:341 but none at 00:33:520 so please fix that
ByBy's Insane
  1. 00:20:411 (4) - The note here is barely audible and it isn't mapped in the highest difficulty either so I recommend removing it here too
  2. 00:20:803 (5,6) - This isn't very good emphasis-wise, 00:20:975 is a really important note that should be clickable on this level of difficulty but it's covered by the very unintuitively placed repeatslider, and 00:21:672 should be clickable too, so I suggest this rhythm - Also, it should be NC'd imo
  3. 00:41:640 (3,4) - Why are those circles when previously and afterwards the exact same thing is mapped with sliders? Mapping 00:41:274 (2) with circles would make sense as there are two disticnt drumhits there, but this way doesn't really make any sense : \ (and 00:48:859 (3,4) make sense two because the guitar has two disctinct notes there, but it's not like that at the first time!)
Nice song, good luck guys! :D

[/!\ TO ALL GDers OF THIS SET /!\]

  1. Delete all your redlines, and replace them by Bonsai's Timing, it's totally better LOL.
    the code if you prefer
    [TimingPoints]
    350,333.333333333333,4,2,1,50,1,0
    1683,362.537764350453,4,2,1,50,1,0
    3141,362.31884057971,4,2,1,50,1,0
    8938,359.281437125748,4,2,1,50,1,0
    10375,364.741641337386,4,2,1,50,1,0
    14751,362.537764350453,4,2,1,50,1,0
    16201,364.298724954463,4,2,1,50,1,0
    20208,384.122919334187,4,2,1,50,1,0
    20592,357.142857142857,4,2,1,50,1,0
    22020,360.36036036036,4,2,1,50,1,0
    24902,362.537764350453,4,2,1,50,1,0
    26352,360.144057623049,4,2,1,50,1,0
    32114,412.087912087912,4,2,1,50,1,0
    32320,360.144057623049,4,2,1,50,1,0
    33580,363.636363636364,4,2,1,50,1,0
    35034,366.97247706422,4,2,1,50,1,0
    37969,364.298724954463,4,2,1,50,1,0
    40883,361.44578313253,4,2,1,50,1,0
    43774,352.941176470588,4,2,1,50,1,0
    45185,364.188163884674,4,2,1,50,1,0
    51012,362.537764350453,4,2,1,50,1,0
    53912,358.208955223881,4,2,1,50,1,0
    56752,360.793746241732,4,2,1,50,1,0
  2. resnap all your object with those timing points.
  3. use 50% volume for no-kiai section
  4. use 60% volume for kiai section
  5. Fix the mods above
  6. post your update here
I also did metadata changes.
____________

Really thanks to Bonsai for the new timing, love ya bro!! <3

[EDITS/UPDATES]
  1. Nya's Normal (object to resnap / kiai to fix)
  2. HB24's easy (done)
  3. Gift (done)
  4. ByBy's Insane (mod fix missing, timing fix missing)
  5. Aihu's Hard (mod fix missing, timing fix missing
Seto Kousuke
hi hi o/

[EDIT]
I only saw now that sotarks made a post warning about the timing and metadata change, so please if you're a GD and already fixed those things, ignore my points about timing/metadata! <3

[Overall]
  1. A lot of conflicts with tags, metadata and audio preview with all the diffs (just ctrl shift A and you'll see)
  2. Nya's diff is 100% unsnapped due to the timing change i guess xD
  3. I think you accidentaly uploaded ''Bonsai's Timing'' as a diff by accident? adehoeadueda
[easy]
  1. 00:03:149 (2) - imo it's a bit too long , there is a strong beat in the white tick, I suggest you make it shorter and place more things to emphasize what we hear in the music, in the rest of the diff is fine, but here all we have is this rythm, so you could do something like 00:02:061 (1) -
  2. 00:42:346 (1,2) - the angle between them looks weird forme, try making 2 more horizontal
  3. 00:47:396 (3) - I'm not a big fan of sliders ending in upbeats, specially in catchy songs like this, I suggest you remake this part to empashize the big white tick
  4. 00:56:973 (1) - this actually doesn't really make much sense xD you could delete it and make the song finish in that previous slider or change him for a single note and put a spinner right after it, and make him finish at the upbeat
[normal]
  1. First of all...lots of unsnapped stuff you see.. xD
  2. 00:19:134 (1) - this is a bit weird, maybe putting a curve in the straight part of the slider? symmetrical to his beginning
[hard]
  1. 00:03:330 (1,2,3,4,5) - this is really weird... xD it's kinda overmap and plays weird too...if you want to use a triplet here anyways, i think it suits waay better if you place it at 00:03:692 and adpat the rest
  2. 00:04:055 (6) - this slider ends in a strong sound, would sound and play better if you make the white tick a clickable note
  3. 00:07:499 (1) - again...this sounds and plays reaaaaly weird...same thing as before, using triplet things works way better if you start them at red ticks...specially in catchy songs like this one...a good example is here 00:16:763 (2) -
  4. 00:24:196 (3,4,5) - ;w;
  5. 00:25:646 (3) - >.<
  6. 00:27:459 (4,5,6) - D;
[Byby's Insane]
  1. 00:14:028 (3) - just me being picky...but sliders like this, specially in a position like this makes the flow so ugly...to play and to see...i would suggest you make something more flow-friendly

    about the rest, can't really complain about anything...the map is on a style i don't really enjoy, so I can't give decent suggestions >.< sorry ;w;
[Gift]

  1. 00:11:469 (5) - this straight slider is a bit weird, maybe making a curve? o:
  2. 00:56:752 (1) - I think it would be more fun if you place a single note here and use it to finish the final triangle, you can place a spinner right after it :P
sorry for being late ;3 love you c:
-Nya-
@Sotarks: I fixed the timing, resnapped, fixed the kiai and other stuff.

@Bonsai: I have to disagree. I feel that the short sliders fits best since the music does suggest that a slider would be better than just a circle. No-one else mentioned this either so I'll wait for more opinions before making such a drastic change.

@Seto: Since many complained about that slider, I decided to fix it.

My update
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: The Ventures - Sleigh Ride.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 8938
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Sleigh Ride
TitleUnicode:Sleigh Ride
Artist:The Ventures
ArtistUnicode:The Ventures
Creator:Sotarks
Version:Nya's Normal
Source:
Tags:Christmas Joy HB24 -Nya- Aihuro ByBy13 ByBy_ChAn
BeatmapID:858395
BeatmapSetID:393080

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:3.5
OverallDifficulty:4
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:1.2
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"BG.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Thank you all for the mods~! :D
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