FreeezeForward wrote:

F4W's Modding Notice

*From F4W's Mania Modding Queue

These following mods are just suggestions but mostly are recommended. If you reject some (all) of my mods, kindly explain it so I can understand.

1|2|3|4|5|6|7

Metadata

1. HP Drain (HP): Maki'nother, and Pyanother must be 8; Enecstacy must be 8.2 (Too harsh to player if it exceeds from that). Maniera masterpiece has only and HP of 8.2
2. Overall Difficulty (OD): Pyanother is more difficult than Maki'nother, but Maki'nother has an OD of 9.5 while Pyanother has only 8.5 Better adjust this. I would suggest to lower them both to 8 or 8.2
3. Timing: Maki'nother had an extra kiai length/time which is not having in other difficulties. Probably unrankable.

Standard

1. 00:14:930 (14930|4) - You should move this to the left hand columns (1, 2 or 3 if right-thumb tapper) kick-snare sounds must be two hands, not one hand. See the next notes, they use both hands. Change or move notes as necessary. //there is no such rule that kick or snare note should be using 2 hand
2. 00:17:524 (17524|4) - Same as above. // ^
3. 00:20:119 (20119|3,20119|6) - Move them to 3 and 6, kick-snare must be 2 hands. // ^
4. 00:24:984 (24984|3) - Move to 2, for hand balance.// ^
5. 00:27:578 (27578|5) - Move to 5, for hand balance. Also notice columns 6 and 7 are alternating too much notes. // actually the collumn are used well... i do layering the collumn 5 before i layer the col 6 n 7
6. 00:28:227 (28227|3,28551|2) - Switch columns, for hand balance. //okay
7. 01:13:470 (73470|0,73633|4,73633|6) - Same sounds for both, but one has 2 notes and the other has one. Add one to that. Change notes as necessary.
8. 01:33:903 Add one note here, since it's double notes here in 01:32:605 and they have the same sound.1 note for piano... 1 note for finish... take a deep look...

Good note density, however there are some patterns are too complex for standard, I just can't point it out. However it's still a good map.

Hyper

1. 00:12:335 - Refer to this picture. The pattern is too complex to Hyper, it is considerable in Insane so it must be easily readable. // good point! applied

Not so much problems here, well-densed notecharts and hand balance. Great difficulty.

Enecstacy

1. 00:45:335 (45335|4,45416|6) - Switch columns, for hand balance.// wew actually it creates a 1/4 jack in right hand which is a cancer

Such cancerous map. Good luck ranking this =w=)b

Kindly reply as soon as possible prior to my mod post above. If there are any questions related to this post, just ask. Happy Modding =w=)b

FreeezeForward wrote:

F4W's Modding Notice

*From F4W's Mania Modding Queue

These following mods are just suggestions but mostly are recommended. If you reject some (all) of my mods, kindly explain it so I can understand.

1|2|3|4|5|6|7

Metadata

1. HP Drain (HP): Maki'nother, and Pyanother must be 8; Enecstacy must be 8.2 (Too harsh to player if it exceeds from that). Maniera masterpiece has only and HP of 8.2
2. Overall Difficulty (OD): Pyanother is more difficult than Maki'nother, but Maki'nother has an OD of 9.5 while Pyanother has only 8.5 Better adjust this. I would suggest to lower them both to 8 or 8.2
3. Timing: Maki'nother had an extra kiai length/time which is not having in other difficulties. Probably unrankable.

MEGA's Insane

1. 00:54:497 (54497|5) - Move to 5, so the pattern will be symmetrical to the first 2 chords. TBH symmetricity aren't that important. Anyway, not applied since this way the pattern are much comfortable to play.

Same as Hyper, not so much problems here, good map.

Kindly reply as soon as possible prior to my mod post above. If there are any questions related to this post, just ask. Happy Modding =w=)b

-Kamikaze- wrote:

Ciel posted on behalf of MMT, so the post is done lol

PyaKura wrote:

-Kamikaze- wrote:

Ciel posted on behalf of MMT, so the post is done lol

Oh is Ciel part of the MMT? Didn't even notice. Well whatevs. The name didn't really ring a bell.

Edit : Pyanother updated

Edit 2 : Okay so it's Yoshiap, nevermind.

UPDATED

-Kamikaze- wrote:

Did a self-mod, changed SV a bit and fixed few inconsistencies
Update

Niks wrote:

MEGA's

00:51:254 (51254|0) - / 01:01:876 (61876|3) - / 01:04:308 (64308|3) - / 01:05:524 (65524|3) - not ghost note... but not good postion IDK, for me it's not a problem. Rearranged anyway.
so 00:53:119 - how about here 1 note? None is mapping these. And I don't really want to add note here since it's pretty awkward to play.
01:54:822 - remove 1 note Note that 01:52:227 - 01:57:416 - 02:00:011 - are having double. It should be consistent since they're playing same instruments here.

Takane6 wrote:

fixed some pattern stuff
waiting for pya and mega

PyaKura wrote:

Late as hell, but updated.

Kuroshiki- wrote:

Hello

Poor mod here

7K = 1~7
[Enecstacy]00:04:551 (4551|5) - should be end at 00:04:876 - then this LN 00:04:795 (4795|4) - should be start at 00:04:876 - like as this 00:07:146 (7146|4,7470|3) - alrite
00:56:119 (56119|1,56281|3,56443|6,56605|4,56768|3,56930|1) - yang ginian ikut apaan si? ._. //ikut piano om

[MRGA's Insane]00:34:714 - add buat clap?
01:39:173 - add. orang ini 01:39:660 (99660|2,99660|1,99822|1,99822|2) - aja double masa itu ngga?

[Hyper]00:29:362 - 00:29:687 - add note? 00:30:335 (30335|1,30335|5,30984|5,30984|1) - ini aja yg impactnya kurang ididouble masa yg tadi ngga?yang (30335|1,30335|5,30984|5,30984|1) - karena harusnya jadi 2 note stream (kick) tapi dibikin 1-2-1-2 note... otomatis yang 00:29:362 - 00:29:687 - harus tetep 1 note aja biar ada beda sama yg tadi

Goodluck

FrenzyLi wrote:

Here is the response from FrenzyLi's osu!mania Instrumental Queue!

General

💬 Comment

• column convention - | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 |
  
  H/R - hold/release

✎ My2Cents

• 🔍 Beatmap Metadata / Options
  Looks good.
  
  🕐 Timing Sections
  Looks good enough.

Storyboard

💬 Comment

• This is how the BG looks on one of my computers with screen 1920x1200.

✎ My2Cents

• I suggest redoing the BG such that the "Persephone" as well as other important texts are not cut off.

Rivals_7's Beginner (7K)

💬 Comment

• Map structure is overall very good but this will make a fairly difficult beginner level-- it looks more like a typical Easy~Easy+ diff due to hold + notes.

✎ My2Cents

• There are two sections where I believe you have not mapped all of the important percussion: 00:35:038 - 00:45:416 and 01:51:578 - 02:01:957 . And then, I realized these two parts are the only two kiais of the map. Thus, I would suggest you to try out my mod for these two sessions and increase the density by a little bit.

➳ Difficulty Settings

• HP 7.0 (7.0)
  OD 7.0 (7.0)

💊 Note Placement

1. 00:14:930 (14930|4,15254|1,15578|5) - Move to 4,4,6.
   Reference 00:17:524 (17524|2,17849|2) - these two finishes are on the same colums. They're in the same col because that section have a an LN for a piano roll. Unlike the first one you highlighted. I'm also quite unsure to move those into 4,4,6. might be uncomfortable to the newer 7k player Because they have to hit those in the same hand. and usually the newer 7k players are practicing how to finger independence.
2. 00:35:038 (35038|0) - Release at 00: ?Timestamp error?
   00:36:578 - Add note on 2
   00:36:822 (36822|1) - Move to 0
   00:36:984 - Add note on 4
   00:37:308 (37308|4) - Move to 2
   00:38:119 (38119|5,38443|3) - Move to 4,6
   00:38:768 - Release at 00:38:768
   00:38:768 - Add note on 3
   00:39:173 - Add note on 2
   00:39:578 - Add note on 2
   00:40:227 (40227|2) - R 00:41:362
   00:41:362 - Add note on 0
   00:41:768 - Add note on 2
   00:42:173 - Add note on 6
   00:42:822 (42822|3) - R at 00:43:957
   00:43:957 - Add note on 4
   00:44:362 - Add note on 2
   00:44:605 (44605|2) - Move to 4
   00:44:768 - Add note on 2
   You might also want to fix this part which feels very empty: 01:51:578 - 02:01:957 Reject everything above. After i applied it, this diff going above 1,5*. which is N Icon. This is why i want to keep this part easy and to balance the diff spread. its not really looking good if this was N icon when the diff says "Easy"
3. 00:55:795 (55795|6) - Add LN on 0 R at 00:57:092 Agreed, applied
   Reference 00:50:605 (50605|0,50605|2)
4. 01:11:200 (71200|4,71200|1,71362|2,71362|5) - This would really be hard for beginners after expericing a long break of 2433 ms. Consider changing to 15,15 Made it one note instead, 1|5
5. 01:24:011 (84011|2) - Move to 6 Ok
   Reference: 01:21:092 (81092|1,81416|5)
6. 01:44:768 (104768|4) - Works better on 6. Nice catch! Also moving some note to make it balanced

Final Notes: Music choice 100%. Enecstacy is modded to death. I love the structure of the map and hope I can play this one day. I guess this mod is the only thing I can do for your mapset after all. o,o

FrenzyLi wrote:

Here is the response from FrenzyLi's osu!mania Instrumental Queue!

General

💬 Comment

• column convention - | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 |
  
  H/R - hold/release

✎ My2Cents

• 🔍 Beatmap Metadata / Options
  Looks good.
  
  🕐 Timing Sections
  Looks good enough.

Storyboard

💬 Comment

• This is how the BG looks on one of my computers with screen 1920x1200.

✎ My2Cents

• I suggest redoing the BG such that the "Persephone" as well as other important texts are not cut off.

Rivals_7's Beginner (7K)

💬 Comment

• Map structure is overall very good but this will make a fairly difficult beginner level-- it looks more like a typical Easy~Easy+ diff due to hold + notes.

✎ My2Cents

• There are two sections where I believe you have not mapped all of the important percussion: 00:35:038 - 00:45:416 and 01:51:578 - 02:01:957 . And then, I realized these two parts are the only two kiais of the map. Thus, I would suggest you to try out my mod for these two sessions and increase the density by a little bit.

➳ Difficulty Settings

• HP 7.0 (7.0)
  OD 7.0 (7.0)

💊 Note Placement

1. 00:14:930 (14930|4,15254|1,15578|5) - Move to 4,4,6.
   Reference 00:17:524 (17524|2,17849|2) - these two finishes are on the same colums.
2. 00:35:038 (35038|0) - Release at 00:
   00:36:578 - Add note on 2
   00:36:822 (36822|1) - Move to 0
   00:36:984 - Add note on 4
   00:37:308 (37308|4) - Move to 2
   00:38:119 (38119|5,38443|3) - Move to 4,6
   00:38:768 - Release at 00:38:768
   00:38:768 - Add note on 3
   00:39:173 - Add note on 2
   00:39:578 - Add note on 2
   00:40:227 (40227|2) - R 00:41:362
   00:41:362 - Add note on 0
   00:41:768 - Add note on 2
   00:42:173 - Add note on 6
   00:42:822 (42822|3) - R at 00:43:957
   00:43:957 - Add note on 4
   00:44:362 - Add note on 2
   00:44:605 (44605|2) - Move to 4
   00:44:768 - Add note on 2
   You might also want to fix this part which feels very empty: 01:51:578 - 02:01:957
3. 00:55:795 (55795|6) - Add LN on 0 R at 00:57:092
   Reference 00:50:605 (50605|0,50605|2)
4. 01:11:200 (71200|4,71200|1,71362|2,71362|5) - This would really be hard for beginners after expericing a long break of 2433 ms. Consider changing to 15,15
5. 01:24:011 (84011|2) - Move to 6
   Reference: 01:21:092 (81092|1,81416|5)
6. 01:44:768 (104768|4) - Works better on 6.

Standard (7K)

💬 Comment

• This is a well layered difficulty and is great for practing beginner level chords and simple streams.

✎ My2Cents

• My input would be to make the map more aesthetically pleasing. There are also a few adjustments, so I hope you try them out.

➳ Difficulty Settings

• HP 7.2 (7.2)
  OD 7.2 (7.2)

💊 Note Placement

1. 00:22:714 (22714|5) - Move to 4
   00:23:038 (23038|6) - Move to 5
   00:23:362 (23362|4) - Move to 0
   00:23:362 (23362|2) - Move to 6
   00:24:660 (24660|5,24660|4) - Move to 2,4
2. 00:33:416 (33416|2) - Move to 3?
3. 00:48:984 (48984|4) - Remove.
4. 01:06:173 (66173|4) - Move to 2
   01:19:633 (79633|3) - Move to 2.
   01:19:795 (79795|0,80119|0) - Move to 3,3.
   01:19:795 (79795|2) - Move to 0.
   01:21:741 (81741|6,81984|4,82227|3,82389|2) - Move to 5,4,2,1
   01:22:389 (82389|0,82714|0) - Move to 3,3.
5. 01:24:335 (84335|1) - Move to 0?
   01:26:768 (86768|1) - Move to 3?
6. 01:44:524 - Add note on 2 (Clap)
   01:44:768 (104768|0) - Move to 2.
7. 02:01:957 (121957|5) - Make this into a regular note because most diffs do not end here with LN.

Hyper (7K)

💬 Comment

• Good LN diff.

✎ My2Cents

• You might want to add a few notes (but not adding them is okay). Also tried to move a lot of notes to make the map look more beautiful but with the same level of technical challenge. You also want a consistent ending across all difficulties and please reference Enecstacy diff for a modified ending.

➳ Difficulty Settings

• HP 7.5 (7.5)
  OD 7.8 (7.8)

💊 Note Placement

1. 00:04:876 (4876|1) - Move to 2.
   00:09:741 (9741|1,10065|0) - Move to 0,1.
2. 00:29:524 (29524|4,29605|3,29687|4,29768|5,29849|6) - This is technically good, but I would like to see these notes as 6,5,4,5,6
3. 00:34:470 - Add note on 6
   00:34:551 - Add notes on 2,5
   Reference 00:33:984 (33984|1,33984|6,34065|4,34065|3)
   00:35:687 - Add note on 4?
   00:38:281 - Add note on 2?
   00:40:876 - Add note on 4?
   00:43:470 - Add note on 2?
   01:52:227 - Add note on 1?
   01:54:822 - Add note on 5?
   01:57:416 - Add note on 1?
   02:00:011 - Add note on 5?
4. 00:48:984 (48984|5) - Move to 2, 3 or 6
   00:54:011 (54011|6,54173|4,54335|2,54497|1) - Move to 4,2,0,3?
5. 00:55:795 (55795|5) - Move to 4?
   00:56:281 (56281|1,56281|3) - Move to 35?
   00:57:578 (57578|3,57578|1,57741|6,57741|4) - Move to 06,24?
6. 01:26:930 (86930|3) - Move to 2.
   01:27:903 (87903|5,87984|6) - Move to 6,5.
   01:28:389 (88389|2,88470|1,88551|3,88633|4,88714|1,88795|0) - Move to 0,1,3,4,0,1
7. 01:44:524 (104524|6,104524|4,104605|3,104768|4,104930|5,105092|6,105254|5,105416|4,105254|5) - Move to 35,4,6,5,4,6
8. 02:01:997 (121997|3,122038|6) - Remove
   02:01:997 - Add note on 2
   02:02:038 - Add note on 4
   02:02:078 - Add note on 6
   Reference: MEGA's Insane, Enecstacy

MEGA's Insane (7K)

💬 Comment

• ✎ My2Cents
  [list:1337]

➳ Difficulty Settings

• HP 7.8 (7.8)
  OD 8.0 (8.0)

💊 Note Placement

1. 01:30:497 (90497|3) - Move to 5.
   01:30:660 (90660|6) - Move to 3. Current pattern flows better for me
2. 01:31:795 (91795|0,91795|1) - Move to 12.
   Reference 01:30:822 (90822|5,90822|4) IDK maybe you're using symmetrical method here, but I think that plays awkward
3. 01:48:335 - Add LN release at 01:48:984 on 0
   Reference 01:45:578 (105578|3,105741|3) Lol please merge this mod with previous mod I was confused
4. 01:50:281 (110281|6) - Turn to LN release at 01:51:578 Giving a time to rest. LN still makes you pressing button even though it's one LN.
5. 02:00:578 (120578|3) - Move to 1.
   02:00:741 - Add note on 3. I don't really following that high-pitched Piano as double. Those double ahead are additional for Drums.
   02:00:903 (120903|4,120984|5,121065|6) - Move to 6,5,4.

Pyanother (7K)

💬 Comment

• Wow I'm impressed.

✎ My2Cents

• Pya's diff never let me down I guess. You might want to add a note on 02:02:078 and that's all I can say at the moment.

➳ Difficulty Settings

• HP 8.8 (8.8)
  OD 8.6 (8.6)

💊 Note Placement

1. 02:02:078 - Reference the ending of Enecstacy and add a note.

Maki'nother (7K)

💬 Comment

• Maki's diff amazes me. **** me senpai.

✎ My2Cents

• Nothing to add except to improve consistency of all diffs.

➳ Difficulty Settings

• HP 8.5 (8.5)
  OD 9.5 (9.5)

💊 Note Placement

1. 00:48:984 (48984|4) - Move to 2.
2. 02:02:078 - Reference the ending of Enecstacy and add a note.

Final Notes: Music choice 100%. Enecstacy is modded to death. I love the structure of the map and hope I can play this one day. I guess this mod is the only thing I can do for your mapset after all. o,o

Amethyst507 wrote:

Maki'nother

-Kiai 01:29:524 - conflicts on other diffs That's not an issue, especially since this is a GD and I want to emphasize that part with kiai since it's important to me in the whole scheme
-Speed chaanges 00:23:362 - and 01:50:281 - seems pokey, consider remove??? Hell naw, those SVs are looking exactly how I want them to look, given my interpretation of this sound. I might change it in the future to a diffrent SV, but I will not remove it.

Well, that's all for now, we'll talk about it more in-game

-Kamikaze- wrote:

what is this gay diff and why is it mine

Maki'nother

-Kiai 01:29:524 - conflicts on other diffs That's not an issue, especially since this is a GD and I want to emphasize that part with kiai since it's important to me in the whole scheme
-Speed chaanges 00:23:362 - and 01:50:281 - seems pokey, consider remove??? Hell naw, those SVs are looking exactly how I want them to look, given my interpretation of this sound. I might change it in the future to a diffrent SV, but I will not remove it.

-Kamikaze- wrote:

I wonder why is it that everytime I reply to a mod I rejected and explain why in a casual way people assume that I'm angry lmao

Amethyst507 wrote:

Got kinda lazy to explain things very clearly cuz i will be busy on several mods besides that, so I just summarize the mods i will apply
However, I will not interfere with any notes or whatsoever, just gonna remind these notes have problem and you fix it as how as you like:

Enecstacy

-Add new timing points for reading
-"SVs" from 00:29:849 - to 00:32:119 - on LN sections
- 00:45:416 - slowed down, because the song's got slower (Beginning section too)
{I recommend setting the timing sections as written above on other difficulties as well as Enectasy only}
Jacks from 01:45:092 - to 01:47:687 - are too stacky, because some beats have different pitch.
-Extending the LNs to 02:07:146 - ?? // em maybe no for now... i know it has a sound there but its no for now
// e.... i dont want to change the SV at this part nor other part, sorry :<

Before applying the timings below, consider backing up just in case it destroyed the map

Paste these in the TimingPoints section of the .osu notepad(Enecstacy ONLY)

[TimingPoints]
2606,324.324324324324,4,1,1,25,1,0
23362,-25,4,1,1,25,0,0
23524,-31.25,4,1,1,25,0,0
23687,-41.6666666666667,4,1,1,25,0,0
23849,-62.5,4,1,1,25,0,0
24011,-125,4,1,1,25,0,0
24173,-250,4,1,1,25,0,0
24335,-500,4,1,1,25,0,0
24497,-1000,4,1,1,25,0,0
24660,-100,4,1,1,25,0,0
35038,-100,4,2,1,35,0,1
45416,-125,4,2,1,35,0,0
66173,-111.111111111111,4,2,1,35,0,0
67470,-100,4,2,1,35,0,0
89524,-100,4,2,1,35,0,1
110281,-25,4,2,1,35,0,0
110443,-31.25,4,2,1,35,0,0
110605,-41.6666666666667,4,2,1,35,0,0
110768,-62.5,4,2,1,35,0,0
110930,-125,4,2,1,35,0,0
111092,-250,4,2,1,35,0,0
111254,-500,4,2,1,35,0,0
111416,-1000,4,2,1,35,0,0
111578,-100,4,2,1,35,0,1
121957,-100,4,2,1,35,0,0

Well, that's all for now, we'll talk about it more in-game

Ichigaki wrote:

ecstasy

01:09:092 (69092|1) - make it just 1/2 beat, i think it's clear enough// okay :3
01:29:524 (89524|6,89687|0) - combine it just like what you did before// also okay :3
01:45:092 - 01:46:389 - why don't make it same like 01:46:389 - 01:47:687 - ? well, the second part seems match for the nearly end of the song // part one actually follow the 1/4 piano sound...

i know it won't really help, sorry
doing this in-game much better x.x// yaaa okedeh =,=

Nivrad00 wrote:

BN check

Hitsounding

Maki'nother
all the timing points before the first kiai are probably meant to be Soft, not Normal Alright, I upped the hs volume by 15% too because this isn't really audible tbh
00:25:308 (25308|3) - should be whistle, not clap
00:27:254 - doubled finish
01:20:443 - 01:22:714 - 01:23:038 - missing claps
01:21:416 - doubled clap, missing whistle
01:32:119 - missing finish
01:45:741 - unnecessary clap
01:47:687 - missing clap and finish
01:53:524 - 01:56:119 - 01:56:443 - 01:58:714 - 01:59:038 - missing finishes
01:52:876 - 01:54:173 - missing claps
01:53:849 - missing whistle and finish
Fixed everything

Mod

Everyone make sure not to mess up hitsounds when you change patterns please

Maki'nother
00:18:011 (18011|0,18051|1,18092|2,18133|3) - I really don't hear the 1/8 here, but given that two different mappers decided to use it I must be mistaken? Yeah this is the same piano-like burst that's mapped on 00:17:889 (17889|6,17930|5,17970|4) - it continues there
00:24:011 - once I put an SV like this in a map and spoonguy told me it was terrible so I took it back out. That being said, nice SV yeah I'm not 100% sure about this SV, because it's kinda dickish to players, but at the same time I decided to just make this diff painful, so it just stayed lol
01:55:470 (115470|3) - I demand you move this to the second lane and complete the downward pattern Understood Master.
01:56:119 - why dont you give the jack a little space like http://puu.sh/qvNKn.png so the rhythm feels cleaner and the difficulty stays more constant? Leading into this sudden tri-jack with a trill on lanes 6 and 7 seems a bit unreasonable to me Oh yeah, that's a nice suggestion, now I know why it felt had af to hit
02:01:389 - I would also point out that this last kiai seems to be much harder than anything before it, but that probably doesn't bother you Yup, this kiai somehow feels more intense to me, idk. Also BMS ending memes

Great maps with some very clever ideas. I was glad to see all of the upper-diff mappers maintain their technique at high densities!

Awaiting your response