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Hotaru - Indomitable Spirit (Hommarju Remix)

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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Freitag, 29. Januar 2016 at 21:43:52

Artist: Hotaru
Title: Indomitable Spirit (Hommarju Remix)
Tags: touhou
BPM: 170
Filesize: 6736kb
Play Time: 03:23
Difficulties Available:
  1. Lunatic (4,86 stars, 713 notes)
Download: Hotaru - Indomitable Spirit (Hommarju Remix)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Thank you Keksbla for the song! :D
schokohase24
Best map i've ever played, by far
Hippo
HI ANTI KDS PLS

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02:45 Anti-: mod indomitable spirit
02:46 Hippo: hm maybe
02:46 Hippo: do you really want a mod tho?
02:46 Anti-: idk fetish said i should
02:46 Hippo: just asking cause dont want it all to go to waste
02:46 Hippo: ok ill mod it in this chat because itll be faster than opn the forums and you'll have more input ok
02:47 Hippo: 00:01:816 (6) - it may be just me but i haahahahahahate these kinds od sliders
02:48 Hippo: long, no shape = boring + a bit ugly
02:48 Anti-: straight is a shape!!"
02:49 Hippo: 00:02:875 (1,2,3) - a bit nitpicky but i dont believe this is a good pattern tbh, seems too "spiky"
02:49 Hippo: 00:03:404 (4) - ugly slider, pls more curvy sliders less these uh what do you even call them
02:49 Hippo: not curvy not straight ones
02:50 Anti-: am i like the only person who likes elbow sliders....
02:50 Hippo: 00:05:522 (9) - same here, if you want to do these kinds of sliders then pls make them symmetrical
02:50 Hippo: if you make them symmetrical
02:50 Hippo: i will forgive you
02:50 Anti-: ok :(
02:50 Hippo: because symmetrical elbow sliders are pretty pretty imo
02:51 Hippo: 00:06:228 (1,2) - i think it would be better if you just followed the singer here
02:51 Hippo: no point in having 2 random notes that follow the bg instrumentals
02:52 Anti-: but it plays nice
02:52 Anti-: and id have to map it exactly like the first combo
02:53 Hippo: nah you wouldnt have to do that
02:53 Hippo: let me show you
02:53 Hippo: ill screenshot
02:53 Anti-: ok
02:53 Hippo: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4406203 what i would do is start on the beat that she starts singing
02:54 Hippo: so the red one
02:54 Hippo: just completely ignore the white tick
02:54 Hippo: start it off with a long slider
02:54 Hippo: so it matches the vocals + is a bit different than teh beginning
02:54 Anti-: so exactly like the first combo
02:54 Hippo: if you really want to change it up a bit
02:54 Hippo: just use a slider instead of a pair of notes
02:55 Hippo: works just as well
02:55 Hippo: and you can make it look fancier!
02:55 Hippo: PS. blankets are bae
02:55 Hippo: 00:07:463 (5) - thats a really nice slider man
02:55 Hippo: ofc im kidding it looks like i do irl
02:55 Anti-: so no way i can keep the 2 notes
02:56 Hippo: yeah
02:56 Hippo: its inconsistent
02:56 Anti-: ok dad :(
02:56 Hippo: or wait
02:56 Hippo: you can actually put a note there on the white tick
02:56 Hippo: but then the next one has to be a slider like i did it in the screenshot
02:56 Hippo: this way it plays nicely like you'd want it
02:57 Hippo: and it follows the song very nicely
02:57 Hippo: 00:08:345 (1,2) - i think an overlap here would work better
02:58 Hippo: 00:06:228 (1,2) and 00:08:345 (1,2) should be overlaps
02:58 Hippo: oh fuck
02:58 Hippo: let me redo that
02:58 Hippo: 00:06:228 (1,2) - and 00:08:345 (1,2) - should be overlaps
02:59 Hippo: you want to know why
02:59 Hippo: because um how to explain it
02:59 Hippo: you want to "start the flow" when the grill starts singing
02:59 Anti-: overlap means stacking it on top?
02:59 Hippo: ye
02:59 Hippo: and the beat before the start of her singing is kind of an "addition"
03:00 Hippo: 00:10:463 (7) - this would wor very well as a elbow slider i like it but
03:00 Hippo: make it symmetrical
03:01 Hippo: 00:16:110 (4,5) - imo no point in keeping them as circles
03:02 Hippo: a slider would work even better + it would be a lot easier to read
03:02 Anti-: 00:10:463 (7) - looks like that to blanket the slider on top
03:02 Hippo: 00:17:522 (1,2,3,4,5) - o just wanted to say this is a very nice section
03:02 Anti-: still change?
03:02 Hippo: oh
03:03 Hippo: yeah
03:03 Hippo: you can change it while keeping it
03:03 Hippo: a well
03:03 Hippo: idk if you can call it a blanket tbh
03:03 Hippo: just Parallel sliders
03:03 Hippo: or something
03:03 Anti-: got it
03:04 Hippo: 00:17:522 (1) - this is how you should do your elbow sliders tbh
03:04 Hippo: its nearly perfect
03:04 Hippo: also if you want to be fancy and make it look cool
03:05 Hippo: 00:17:522 (1,2,3,4,5) - you can make the 3 a blanket of 5
03:06 Hippo: 00:27:404 (5,6) - pls no overlap here
03:06 Anti-: its cool i think
03:06 Hippo: it just makes the spacing inconsistent
03:06 Anti-: i can place it on top of 00:26:345 (2) - ?
03:07 Hippo: thats your role to determined a good placement for that note tbh!
03:07 Hippo: determine*
03:07 Hippo: also in taht section
03:07 Hippo: you decided to keep a single combo
03:07 Hippo: its not wrong but
03:08 Hippo: it would look better (imo ofc) if you changed the 00:25:992 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - to something like 00:25:992 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) -
03:08 Hippo: but thats just my new combo strats i do ;w;
03:09 Anti-: ok
03:09 Hippo: 00:29:522 (1,2,3,1) - these are all on 1/1 beats but you decided to make the last note's spacing to the 3 so much smaller
03:10 Hippo: it doesnt make sense + you didnt do that before
03:10 Hippo: 00:23:875 (1,2,3,1) - here you did it correct
03:11 Hippo: 00:34:110 (2,3) - holy mother of spacing
03:11 Hippo: i know this is a start of the boom booms
03:11 Hippo: but you overdid it LOL
03:12 Hippo: 00:34:463 (3) - also i'd advise this note to be a new combo
03:12 Hippo: prettier
03:12 Hippo: and its the beginning of a new section in the song/map so it makes sense
03:13 Anti-: ok
03:13 Hippo: 00:43:286 (5,6,1) - bad stream flow
03:13 Hippo: 00:44:169 (6,1) - overdone spacing
03:14 Hippo: 00:44:698 (3,4,5,6) - underdone (?) spacing imo
03:15 Hippo: 00:47:875 (3,4,1) - i think these are too far apart or just that last note is too far from the slider
03:15 Hippo: 00:54:228 (1,2,3,4) - nitpicky stuff but
03:15 Hippo: why no jumps ;w;
03:15 Hippo: no jumps at all = ;w;
03:16 Hippo: wait no
03:16 Hippo: im retarded xd
03:16 Anti-: wat
03:16 Hippo: nvm scrap that last thing
03:16 Anti-: how do i improve stream flow
03:16 Anti-: 00:43:286 (5,6,1) -
03:16 Hippo: 00:54:228 (1,2,3,4) - but maybe you could increase the spacing between these sliders and make it equal
03:16 Hippo: um ok
03:17 Hippo: 00:43:463 (6,1) - mostly this
03:17 Hippo: the kickslider is pointing the opposite way of the start of the stream
03:17 Anti-: so just ctrl g?
03:18 Hippo: you could try i guess
03:18 Anti-: or rotate 180
03:18 Hippo: tbh i would just make it a longstream without any kicksliders xd
03:18 Hippo: well ctrl g and rotate 180 is
03:18 Hippo: more or less
03:18 Hippo: same thing tbh
03:19 Anti-: ctrl g would change the position of the sliderhead
03:19 Hippo: but rotate would be better imo because it makes the sliderend closer to the stream
03:19 Hippo: yeah i know
03:20 Hippo: 00:58:816 (1,2) - you could make a jump between these two sliders because as of right now it just doesnt have any "impact" or something
03:20 Hippo: just feels a bit wrong
03:21 Hippo: 01:00:228 (2,3) - if you want to make sliders that look the same pls just c/p them LOL
03:21 Hippo: it looks so unnatural now
03:21 Hippo: oops
03:21 Hippo: meant
03:21 Hippo: 1,2
03:21 Hippo: no nvm
03:22 Hippo: 2,3 right
03:23 Hippo: 01:00:580 (3,4) - thats one uglyass jump to a slider imo
03:23 Anti-: 01:00:228 (2,3) - they're not meant to
03:23 Hippo: oh then
03:23 Hippo: the 3rd slider
03:23 Hippo: looks
03:23 Hippo: shit
03:23 Hippo: LOL SORRY
03:23 Hippo: BUT IT DOES
03:23 Anti-: same angle as 00:59:875 (1,2) - but 90 degrees
03:23 Hippo: no one while playing
03:23 Hippo: would notice that
03:24 Hippo: and it really does look crappy
03:24 Hippo: 01:07:286 (3,4,5,6,7) - ayy lmao thats one ugly stream!
03:25 Anti-: lmao!!
03:25 Hippo: if you want to change some jumps around
03:25 Hippo: 01:13:992 (1,2,3,4) -
03:25 Hippo: this pattern
03:25 Hippo: is very good + works great with the song
03:26 Hippo: also i didnt mention that earlier but
03:26 Hippo: 01:19:992 (2,3,1) - jumps like these
03:26 Hippo: linear jumps
03:26 Hippo: are imo not very good
03:26 Hippo: the look not too good and play pretty badly
03:27 Hippo: 01:28:110 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - change up the kicksliders a bit to make it all flow better
03:27 Hippo: 01:30:139 (8,1,2) - thats one fugly transistion
03:27 Hippo: transition*
03:28 Anti-: xd
03:28 Hippo: 01:30:580 (1,1) - keep in mind this map is like ~4.7* dont make the jump literally hitler
03:29 Anti-: can i make the turn in the stream more sharp?
03:29 Hippo: yeah absolutely
03:29 Hippo: sharp turns are a-okay unless you want to do shit like blue zenith lol
03:29 Hippo: im not going to mention repeated stuff anymore
03:29 Hippo: you can figure it out for yourself zz
03:30 Anti-: yes
03:30 Hippo: 01:52:462 (5,6,1,2,3) - o this transition is cute i like it
03:30 Anti-: thanks
03:30 Anti-: a lot
03:30 Hippo: wait im not done yet xcd
03:30 Hippo: there's still half of the map left pls
03:30 Hippo: ill search for some new stuffs
03:30 Anti-: ok
03:31 Hippo: 01:53:522 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - i know this can be a bit problematic for (it was for me at least) but pls pls make slider art
03:31 Hippo: you dont have to do anything fancy\
03:32 Hippo: but the same 3 ugly repeated slider shapes are boring + well
03:32 Hippo: ugly
03:32 Hippo: 02:18:933 (1,2,3) - oh thats some new stuff
03:32 Hippo: ok so
03:32 Hippo: spacing!!!!1
03:32 Anti-: ResidentSleeper
03:32 Hippo: why is the spacing between 2,3 the same as it is between 1,2
03:33 Hippo: 1,2 is a 1/2 and 2,3 is a 1/1
03:33 Hippo: so you know
03:33 Anti-: it pretty
03:33 Hippo: no
03:33 Hippo: pls
03:33 Anti-: no
03:33 Anti-: ;w;
03:33 Anti-: ok
03:33 Hippo: i did the same stuff in my map like 3 days ago
03:33 Hippo: until fetish corrected me
03:33 Hippo: what a good guy
03:33 Hippo: now i can spot shit spacing for afar!!!!
03:34 Anti-: great!!!
03:34 Hippo: there are spacing issues the same as this one a bit later
03:34 Hippo: you'll notice it probably
03:35 Hippo: 02:36:492 (8,1) - ayylmao u know what i want to say xddd
03:35 Anti-: 02:24:580 (1,2,3) -
03:35 Anti-: :>
03:35 Hippo: woo!
03:36 Hippo: 02:40:816 (3,4) - same spacing issue
03:36 Hippo: 02:57:757 (3,4) - s a m e
03:37 Anti-: dont do that?
03:37 Hippo: yeah its the same issue as before
03:37 Hippo: 02:40:639 (2,3) - these is a jump there
03:38 Hippo: so why would there be a jump there 02:40:816 (3,4) -
03:38 Hippo: its a 1/2 as well so i dont see why it should be spaced
03:38 Hippo: ok im done
03:38 Anti-: wait
03:38 Hippo: hm?
03:39 Anti-: should there be a jump now or stack them
03:39 Hippo: to keep it consistent, a jump
03:39 Hippo: a stack would make the spacing issue even worse tbh
03:39 Anti-: ok
03:39 Anti-: because you just said why would there be a jump
03:39 Hippo: ok so im finished
03:39 Hippo: oh
03:39 Hippo: i meant
03:40 Hippo: why shouldn't it be spaced
03:40 Hippo: not should
03:40 Hippo: oops
03:40 Anti-: ok
03:40 Hippo: gonna post it under your thread and KDS PLS :^)
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