Lasse wrote:

m4m from pm (I saw your message a bit late lol)
=> https://osu.ppy.sh/s/455756 just mod some diffs, higher ones are more important

[general]
00:28:989 - drum-clap would work well with the drum in the music here OK，sounds good
00:55:900 - would use drum whistle here instead of soft to follow the hihat drum whistle sounds a little strange here，so keep here

[lunatic]
00:08:253 (1,2,3,4) - I don't get why those are spaced, when you have overlaps for this paino/vocal pattern all the time before
you could overlap this too OR increase spacing for 00:04:724 (1,2,3,4) - so this pattern gets bigger spacing when it repeats dont want pattern too dull;W, i think here is fine
00:17:518 (2) - is the whislte on sliderbody intended? I didn't see any other and it seems weird oh,a mistake,fixed
00:17:077 (1) - this feels a bit strong for this low spacing, you could increase it a bit and also rotate the slider to make it look nicer => http://i.imgur.com/uOZwr8Q.jpg ok,that's good
00:21:930 (5) - : why is this suddenly stacked o: it's such strong sound, oyu even put whistle+clap, but stack makes it feel unimportant umm,i want the same sounds can be notice when on playing,i mean the whistle
00:27:444 (6) - could use more spacing, spacing should be around the same or a bit more as other cymbal here 00:26:562 (3) -
ond 01:38:033 (1) - you did it right lol fine, fixed
00:37:150 (3,4,5,6,1) - this plays a bit awkward with changing spacing twice on a straight line => http://i.imgur.com/E9O3U2E.jpg could add some angle here fixed,and i changed the slider's angle a litttle,adn also ctrl+G it
01:23:033 (3) - would put a bit more spacing on this cymbal. it also transitions better to that huge triangle and doesnt make it feel that sudden i try to place it more far,but lose good flow here，so keep here

I saw natsu ask you to get more opinons on the 1/6
for me they sound fine, like 00:20:827 (2) - pretty clearly has 3 sounds on those ticks
even if the snap was slightly off it wouldn't matter that much since they are not clickable anyways

[hard]
00:19:944 (5) - random whistle on sliderbody? fixed
00:20:827 (3) - you can't simplify 1/6 as 1/4 it sounds completely wrong like this cause the repeat lands on nothing and you have more sounds than hits. just use a . I'd use this rhythm instead http://i.imgur.com/DVLKMcm.jpg it goes better with the guitar OK，fixed all behind
00:27:003 (4) - ^ here I'd just use a 1/2 slider
00:29:871 (2) - for visuals: slider looks so weird with the angle/curve here and doesnt work with the other object, you could to sth like seem http://i.imgur.com/6SeIhmK.jpg which plays nearly the same well,fixed
00:41:783 (1,2) - diff already has some jumps, so you can also increase spacing here to emphasize the piano umm,if make jump will lose good flow here,dont want change
00:59:209 (1) - 1/2 repeat plays so much better here. it still follows the vocal well but also doesnt ignore strong guitar on downbeat flow vocal on purpose,natsu said use more 1/1 then i changed somewhere,here is one of them
01:04:724 (1) - straight line here gicves cymbal no emphasis, how about some angle like http://i.imgur.com/1nOAGV3.jpg fixed
01:11:562 (4,1) - check this with stacking enabled. autosack makes spacing uneven which looks bad on such patterns http://i.imgur.com/E1DZPhy.jpg fixed here by ds
01:31:415 (1) - 1/6 think like above
01:36:930 (2) - split into 2 circles or sth to get a clickable cymbal on purpose, to be a part whith slider before


gl

__Ag wrote:

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Fycho wrote:

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另外lunatic里的01:10:018 (1,2) - 强烈建议改一改，很反人体工学。不仅容易错读成1/2，而且这减速滑条的1/4分开摆那么大间距一点也不合曲。。人声都是弱拍，这么大间距会有打击感吗？答案很明显是没有，打着违和，尤其DT。 唔，单双可能打这样的感觉不舒服，我是强双所以感受没那么强烈Q.Q。自己试试也不会出100的感觉，可以的话还是想保留这样子


如果你跟人声，那么间距近一点，最多不能大于1.0x的space；或者换成1/2滑条另外不要减速或者少减点。

Frenkie09 wrote:

General

1. 歌风柔和，推荐用大量小弯曲直滑条，比如Insane的这里 01:18:842 (1,2,3) - 可以扭一下这样让他不要那么直 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5385633

this arc are too small，so i think dont influence playing.

Hard

1. 01:23:474 (4,5,6) - Flow no good,00:12:886 (3,4,5) - i think this is more comfortable
2. 01:37:592 (3,4,1) - ↑ I think triangle is fine XD

Lunatic

1. 00:15:092 (2,3,1) - There flow is little bad ,i think you can try this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5385576 fine fixed
2. 00:17:518 (2) - This slider bend hard . try this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5385592 look ugly，so keep here
3. 00:18:621 (5) - Right move little.because can good for flow fixed
4. 00:27:444 (6) - DS ,too far on purpose，its accent
5. 01:12:224 (2,3) - I know there chinese is mean a circle,but my flow isn't a cirle,i think you can try this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5385623 fell similarity，so no change
6. 01:23:915 (3) - Remove the circle and use slider from 01:23:915 - to 01:25:018 - ,sv set 0.5x-0.75x,and 01:25:018 - there volume set 5% dont want use slider here like before;W；，i want let it empty here
7. 01:25:680 (3) - I think this circle can move to x:304 y:72.good for flow fine fixed

好像没2kd￣へ￣ 被上面两个魂淡抢了，没办法，唉
GL~

smallboat wrote:

[Lily Bread's Normal]
00:08:253 (1,2) - 這個對稱間距前後差了0.10x以上建議修一下，不然又被找碴。
//这个吗..好麻烦呐...这个BPM这么低而且隔了2拍，间距小一点应该没事的。前面一个隔2拍的也是0.9xDS

01:06:489 (4) - 尾端應該能加個finish跟01:04:724 (1,2) - 做個對應會聽的比較有感覺
//好

smallboat wrote:

[General]
東方project的p怎麼會是小寫，應該要改成P才是。引用飛球的帖子 :
致命失误，修改了
[Hard]
00:12:444 (2) - 這個沒加whistle啊 (可能還有些看漏了，建議用複製工具就不會漏放了)
01:05:386 (3) - 試試加finish (看看下面一個diff也要不要加)
01:07:150 (3) - 同Normal 恩，我用copy的转过去

[Lunatic]

01:05:386 (3) - 同Hard
01:08:253 (1) - 忘了Finish 好的，加上了。

Lily Bread wrote:

[Lily Bread's Normal]

@momizi 帮我加一下那个finish吧 好的顺便看到后面的01:08:253 (1) - 加了finish，这里漏了也

Karen wrote:

Lunatic
ar8.3太高了吧 其实我也觉得有点快，我还是喜欢AR8，那就AR8好了
00:11:562 (6,7,2) - 要跟钢琴就好好跟，突然跟vocal很难受诶 唔，这还是狗笔提出来的，之前我也是单跟钢琴，不过这样子尝试了感觉还不错。保留吧
00:21:047 - clap? fixed
00:29:430 - 这种地方加finish 加上感觉奇怪于是把这一段的音量都有所降低感觉好点
01:10:018 (1,2) - 这只是个简单图，这么大的距离会增加难度，老老实实靠近点吧 那就放近点吧，难度也没变化，原来的那个难度强双其实这里打着挺舒服的Q.Q.
01:14:871 - 这whistle是啥 去掉了
01:31:636 - clap? fixed
开头放了些whistle，但是结尾一样的部分又没了，你看看加点什么 恩，适当加点吧
01:38:143 - 转盘可以这里开始 好的
对了音效要改的话跟hard一起改 copy过去了

给图

Karen wrote:

01:37:592 (6,7,8) - 1/6

Karen wrote:

Qualified!

you have already qualified a map today!
rip

1. My personal two cents that ar5 felt a little high for the actual diff itself.
2. 01:38:253 - It's pretty sad that there is no spinner here, which hurts the consistency cross difficulties. Also since 01:36:488 (1,2,3) is highly related with 00:25:900 (1,2,3) in patterns and the song, having no spinner at the end such as 00:27:665 (1) also damaged consistency.

1. 00:23:474 (3,4) - (3) has a bigger spacing, while (4) has a bigger sound.
2. 00:48:180 (4,5,6) - Emphasis issue. (5) has a stronger sound, while (6) containing a jump.
3. 01:15:312 (1,2,3) - Indeed (2,3) is bigger in spacing, and you may wanted a downbeat emphasis. But since (1,2) is also far enough, the feeling of an emphasis wasn't clear enough only to get feeled as an unbalanced spacing.
4. 01:16:415 (4,5,6) - (5) has a stronger sound while (6) having a bigger jump. Emphasis issue.
5. 01:04:724 (1,2,3,4) - (2,3) has strong sounds, so it is understandable for them to have big spacing. However (4) does not, and it also having a big spacing feels not fitting the song properly.
6. 01:05:827 (4,5) - 01:07:592 (4,5) - These got similar feelings, but the spacing is different.
7. 00:28:768 (1,2,3) - Spacing is inconsistent.
8. 00:30:312 (3,4,5,6) - 00:32:297 (4,5,6) - 00:34:062 (4,5,6) - 00:35:827 (5,6,7) - 00:37:592 (4,5,6) - 00:41:121 (4,5,6) - 00:42:885 (4,5,6) - Structure issue. I see you were trying to give a similar feeling by using notes for similar parts of the song, but unlike the consistency of rhythms, the patterning wasn't as organized enough. Sometimes it is a triangle, sometimes it's a linear beat. Sometimes the spacing is 1.00x, sometimes 1.5x, 2.00x, or having random spacings.
9. 01:26:562 - The hitsound here feels unnatural compared to the song. It's way too much ;w;
10. Spacing consistency is highly lacking. 1.00x and 1.50x seems to be some of the major spacings you are using, but those in usage feels quite arbitrary. 00:31:194 (1,2,3,4,5,6) for example, 1.5x is the main usage while (5) being inconsistent. Seems as an intended jump, but the scale is so minor, only to be interpreted as a spacing error. 00:41:783 (1,2) - 00:45:974 (3,4) - 1.00x isn't been used for close 1/2 here.
11. Major issues are lacking of patterns, and weak logic behind emphasis selection.

_MiaoFUuU_ wrote:

恭喜1st!!

Sonnyc wrote:

[Lunatic]

1. 00:23:474 (3,4) - (3) has a bigger spacing, while (4) has a bigger sound. fixed
2. 00:48:180 (4,5,6) - Emphasis issue. (5) has a stronger sound, while (6) containing a jump. fixed the placement
3. 01:15:312 (1,2,3) - Indeed (2,3) is bigger in spacing, and you may wanted a downbeat emphasis. But since (1,2) is also far enough, the feeling of an emphasis wasn't clear enough only to get feeled as an unbalanced spacing. 3 also has accent，but，changed ds（not for better play，only for accent
4. 01:16:415 (4,5,6) - (5) has a stronger sound while (6) having a bigger jump. Emphasis issue. fixed
5. 01:04:724 (1,2,3,4) - (2,3) has strong sounds, so it is understandable for them to have big spacing. However (4) does not, and it also having a big spacing feels not fitting the song properly. move 4 al little left
6. 01:05:827 (4,5) - 01:07:592 (4,5) - These got similar feelings, but the spacing is different. fixed
7. 00:28:768 (1,2,3) - Spacing is inconsistent. i think here is no problem，keep
8. 00:30:312 (3,4,5,6) - 00:32:297 (4,5,6) - 00:34:062 (4,5,6) - 00:35:827 (5,6,7) - 00:37:592 (4,5,6) - 00:41:121 (4,5,6) - 00:42:885 (4,5,6) - Structure issue. I see you were trying to give a similar feeling by using notes for similar parts of the song, but unlike the consistency of rhythms, the patterning wasn't as organized enough. Sometimes it is a triangle, sometimes it's a linear beat. Sometimes the spacing is 1.00x, sometimes 1.5x, 2.00x, or having random spacings. yes,i use line all this part fisrt time,but aftter remap,i remove these line,because,i afraid boring,its a short map,peopele will not fell sleepy,but if its a long map,they will.and if i changed all things same when they have same rhythm,people will fell boring,as me,i will never play again.i think some radom will make map fell not so boring.
9. 01:26:562 - The hitsound here feels unnatural compared to the song. It's way too much ;w; remove the clap
10. Spacing consistency is highly lacking. 1.00x and 1.50x seems to be some of the major spacings you are using, but those in usage feels quite arbitrary. 00:31:194 (1,2,3,4,5,6) for example, 1.5x is the main usage while (5) being inconsistent. Seems as an intended jump, but the scale is so minor, only to be interpreted as a spacing error. 00:41:783 (1,2) - 00:45:974 (3,4) - 1.00x isn't been used for close 1/2 here. not use ds very much，and i think this not influence play and i make it on purpose.no change
11. Major issues are lacking of patterns, and weak logic behind emphasis selection.

I don't think this mapset has reached it's highest potential yet, and has still got several space for improvement remaining.

Lily Bread wrote:

Normal
◾My personal two cents that ar5 felt a little high for the actual diff itself.
//AR5 is ok for normal imo, but AR4 is ok too. change to AR4 if momizi want.

◾01:38:253 - It's pretty sad that there is no spinner here, which hurts the consistency cross difficulties. Also since 01:36:488 (1,2,3) is highly related with 00:25:900 (1,2,3) in patterns and the song, having no spinner at the end such as 00:27:665 (1) also damaged consistency.
//i don't like spinner. i won't add two spinner in one map. and i don't think a boring spinner can make any consistency.

Lily Bread wrote:

my mapping style for easy and normal diff: in quiet part, map vocal as many as possible; if there doesn't have vocal or vocal is hard to map, map drum instead.

Lily Bread wrote:

quite weird, because they are harder than kiai part. see above, so i choose to map drum here.

Lily Bread wrote:

2. these two part is not the same in vocal. no reason to map them in same rhythm.

Lily Bread wrote:

01:16:856 - here has a vocal.

Lily Bread wrote:

so why did you ignore "consistent" this time?
see - 01:14:430 (6) -

Lily Bread wrote:

why should i add a spinner? i hate spinner. boring and it can't express any music at all.