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Down 2015-12-24T05:25:58+00:00

Neoskylove wrote:
Korean Air project
하드 이상만 봐드릴게요

[하드]
00:05:729 (1) - 꺾임 흐름이 부자연스럽네요 흐름에 맞게 반대쪽으로 꺾었습니다.
00:17:552 (3,4,5) - 갑자기 3연타 나온 이유가.....? 리버스슬라가 또 나오기엔 지루하다고 생각했습니다. 그래서 넣었습니다.
01:13:140 (1) - 이거00:48:788 (3,4) - 랑 박자 같이 맞춰주세요 00:48:788 부분과 달리 01:13:140 (1)이부분 뒤에는 드럼소리가 없기에 추가를 안했습니다.

[수프 먹었어요]
00:02:376 (4,1) - 스택 에러 일단 스택시키려고 했는데 잘 됬는지 모르겠네용..
00:10:493 (5) - 3연타 쓰는걸 추천합니다 00:10:317 (4,5,6) - 를 삼각형을 만드는것이 목적이라서.. (5)를 3연타를 만들게 되면 (6)번이 사라져 버려서 모양만들기가 곤란했습니다.
01:03:081 (2,3) - 오버랩 의도적인 오버랩입니다.
01:04:669 (3,4) - ^ ^

GimBab wrote:
SPOILER
[General]
불필요한 timing section 제거해주세요
종소리? 아무튼 특정 히트사운드들 소리가 약간 큰거같아요
[Easy]
00:59:021 (4) - 언스냅 체크 (AI mod) fix
00:45:258 (1) - NC 해제 fix
01:01:140 (3) - 이렇게나 긴 슬라이더는 이 타이밍에 필요없다고 생각합니다. 허용한다 해도 모양이 너무 직선이네요. 모양을 바꿨습니다.
01:11:022 (1,2) - 직선슬라이더 보다는 곡선 슬라이더가 더 자연스러울것 같네요(2)번슬라를 그 다음슬라에 블랭킷시키고 곡선으로 바꿨습니다. (1)번슬라는 그대로 두겠습니다.

[Normal]
SV가 Hard와 같네요.. 노말치고는 상당히 빠르다고 느껴집니다. 그런가..요?
01:06:080 (2) - 언스냅 체크 (AI mod) fix
01:06:786 (3) - ^ fix
00:15:435 (3) - 디스턴스가 일정하지 않네요. (AI mod) fix
00:42:435 (3) - 곡 흐름은 보컬에 강조되어있는데 맵 흐름은 아주작은 종소리?에 맞춰져 있군요
바로 앞의 채보까지 보컬흐름을 따라가다 갑자기 이 음에 초점을 두시니 어색하다고밖에 말씀 못드리겠습니다. 음..저는 나름 보컬흐름도 따라간다고 생각했었는데.. 잘 모르겠습니다
01:13:140 (1) - NC 해제 fix

[Hard]
00:14:199 (1) ~ 00:25:317 (5) - 솔직하게 말씀드리자면, 이부분이 곡의 초중장인데 곡의 하이라이트인 키아이타임보다도 어렵다는 느낌을 받았습니다
슬라이더도 거의없이 서클+리핏슬라 단타연타로 이루어져서 그런지 느낌이 강하네요. 이부분이 약간 어렵다는 것도 있지만 키아이타임이 이부분에 비해 너무 쉽다는것도 맞습니다.
최소한 키아이타임을 이 타이밍과 비슷하게라도 난이도를 맞춰주시는게 좋을것 같아요 3연타부분이 어렵다고 판단하여 리핏슬라로 여러개 바꿧습니다.

01:00:963 (3) - 00:59:728 (1,2) 사이는 1/2간격인데 2와 3의 간격은 1/1간격이므로 알아보기쉽게 NC를 추가해주는것이 좋을것 같습니다. 스택이기도 하구요
만일 위 3 슬라이더에 NC를 하신다면 01:01:493 (1) 이 노트는 NC 해제하시는게 자연스럽겠네요. 넵

[Soup Tabetai]
Why diff name is it ? Soup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたいSoup 食べたい
00:31:141 (1) - 의도는 무엇인지 알겠으나 거리가 너무 가까운거 아닐까요...? 00:30:788 (5) 에 블랭킷하시면서 거리를 두시는게 어떠신지..오 좋네요.. 고쳤습니다.

여행을 갔다오느라 피드백이 늦어진점 죄송합니다 ㅠㅠ
모딩해주셔서 감사합니다!

Left

2,156 posts

Joined October 2014

Left 2015-12-24T06:51:49+00:00

Neoskylove wrote:
[레프트 인세인]
00:01:494 (1,2) - 00:02:199 (3) - 머리스택 서클,슬라꼬리,머리로 삼각형 이루도록 배치해놔서 그러고 싶지 않습니다
00:11:375 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - 1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2로 해서 쩜프 쓰는게 나을것 같아요 fix

GimBab wrote:
SPOILER
[Left's Insane]
1/4간격의 두 노트의 거리가 1/2간격 단타점프보다도 먼 부분이 여러곳 있네요.. 이러면 박자를 분간하기가 어렵습니다
Expert 난이도라도 이러한 부분은 손을 보셔야 하는데 insane 난이도이시니 거리도 대폭 줄여주셔야 할것 같네요.강조하기 위해 쓴 부분이 아닌데 그렇다면 분명히 고쳐야 할 부분인데 어딘지를 모르겠습니다
00:20:905 (7) - Ctrl + Gfix

감사합니다!

http://puu.sh/m6Tog/30289d83ae.zip

Rose Pacifica

238 posts

Joined February 2012

Rose Pacifica 2015-12-24T11:43:58+00:00

GimBab wrote:
[spoilerbox][General]
불필요한 timing section 제거해주세요
종소리? 아무튼 특정 히트사운드들 소리가 약간 큰거같아요
[Rose's Insane]
00:09:611 (8) - 거리를 약간만 좁혀주세요 3.0 ~ 3.1x정도면 되겠네요. Fix
00:23:288 (3,4) - Left님 모딩에도 나와있듯이 간격으로 박자를 구분할수 있도록 허용되는 범위만큼 최대한 2와 붙여주세요.Fix
지금 이상태로는 1/2박만큼 떨어진 00:23:729 (5) 과의 거리가 더 가깝습니다.. Fix
00:29:464 (5) - Delete Fix
01:01:493 (1,2) - Ctrl + G 어떠심? 치기힘들거같아서 수정안한...ㅜ
01:02:905 (2) - 이것을 적당히 내려서 01:03:257 (3) - 과의 거리를 1/2박임을 인식할수 있도록 벌리는게 좋다고 생각합니다. Fix
01:03:963 (1) - 마찬가지로 적당히 거리를 둬주세요 Fix
01:11:728 (1) - 반대로 이건 좀 줄여주시는게 좋을듯..Fix
01:12:787 (2) - 애매... 안티점프가 어울리는것같기도하고 아닌것같기도하고... Fix

Neoskylove님것은 갓밥님모딩온거 수정하면서 같이수정했습니다

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Koiyuki

2,531 posts

Joined March 2013

Koiyuki 2016-01-09T10:20:46+00:00

Just some complaints.
My personal suggestions.
Highly recommended.
Unrankable, you have to fix it.

General

Check your AIMod in all diffs, it seems missing some files in your sb
a silenced sliderslide.wav is highly recommend.

Easy

00:14:199 (1,2) - 1.14x
00:28:317 (1) - remove nc, it changes too frequently.

Normal

This diff use a fast sv but low ds, which gives a poor gameplay feeling, I recommend you'd better remap the diff with 0.9~1.0ds or 1.1~1.2sv. According to that you use the same sv in hard, changing sv is a better choice.
use more 1/2 rhythms in the second kiai? comparing with the former it's quite easy.

Hard

00:45:258 (5) - nc

Left's Insane

00:12:435 (1,2) - the pattern of 00:11:552 (2,1,2,1,2) - is quite interesting so keep it here? http://puu.sh/mp7Cm/4c549112af.jpg
00:28:317 (5) - nc?
00:56:552 (1,4) - slience the slider end? hears quite weird for me

Rose's Insane

01:09:269 - should it be snapped at 01:09:257 - ?
01:15:257 (1) - end at the same time as other diffs? 01:19:493 -

Soup Tabetai

00:14:199 - to 00:25:317 - the stream part seems to be too crowd, all of the notes are heaped together looks quite a mess, enlarge a bit ds of each parts can works better.
01:04:669 (3,4,1) - this overlap is quite ugly lol, try this? http://puu.sh/mp7XP/96700840c5.jpg
01:11:022 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - try an increasing ds of each one?

i'm quite busy with my exam these days, so the mod is a bit short and i havent check any metadata or hitsounds.
it's quite fine for a new mapper but i think it can be better, so try to find some more "quality" mods.

Rose Pacifica

238 posts

Joined February 2012

Rose Pacifica 2016-01-10T10:20:47+00:00

Minakami Yuki wrote:
Just some complaints.
My personal suggestions.
Highly recommended.
Unrankable, you have to fix it.

General
Check your AIMod in all diffs, it seems missing some files in your sb
a silenced sliderslide.wav is highly recommend.
Rose's Insane
01:09:269 - should it be snapped at 01:09:257 - ?
01:15:257 (1) - end at the same time as other diffs? 01:19:493 -

i'm quite busy with my exam these days, so the mod is a bit short and i havent check any metadata or hitsounds.
it's quite fine for a new mapper but i think it can be better, so try to find some more "quality" mods.

Thx XDD

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Title:Attakain Dakara
TitleUnicode:あったかいんだからぁ♪
Artist:Hanatan
ArtistUnicode:花たん
Creator:Down
Version:Rose's Insane
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Tags:kumamushi hatsune miku vocaloid left rose_pacifica
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Down

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Topic Starter

Down 2016-01-10T11:03:41+00:00

Minakami Yuki wrote:
Just some complaints.
My personal suggestions.
Highly recommended.
Unrankable, you have to fix it.

General
Check your AIMod in all diffs, it seems missing some files in your sb fix
a silenced sliderslide.wav is highly recommend.
Easy
00:14:199 (1,2) - 1.14x fix
00:28:317 (1) - remove nc, it changes too frequently. fix

Normal
This diff use a fast sv but low ds, which gives a poor gameplay feeling, I recommend you'd better remap the diff with 0.9~1.0ds or 1.1~1.2sv. According to that you use the same sv in hard, changing sv is a better choice.
use more 1/2 rhythms in the second kiai? comparing with the former it's quite easy. Taeyang will do remap.

Hard
00:45:258 (5) - nc fix

Soup Tabetai
00:14:199 - to 00:25:317 - the stream part seems to be too crowd, all of the notes are heaped together looks quite a mess, enlarge a bit ds of each parts can works better. // I think not bad. First, the sound filled the empty part.
01:04:669 (3,4,1) - this overlap is quite ugly lol, try this? http://puu.sh/mp7XP/96700840c5.jpg good, thanks
01:11:022 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - try an increasing ds of each one? fix
i'm quite busy with my exam these days, so the mod is a bit short and i havent check any metadata or hitsounds.
it's quite fine for a new mapper but i think it can be better, so try to find some more "quality" mods.

I will pay energy to the map in the quality.
Thanks!

Last edited by Down 2016-01-10T12:00:26+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Left

2,156 posts

Joined October 2014

Left 2016-01-10T11:28:04+00:00

Minakami Yuki wrote:
Just some complaints.
My personal suggestions.
Highly recommended.
Unrankable, you have to fix it.

General
Check your AIMod in all diffs, it seems missing some files in your sb
a silenced sliderslide.wav is highly recommend.
Left's Insane
00:12:435 (1,2) - the pattern of 00:11:552 (2,1,2,1,2) - is quite interesting so keep it here? http://puu.sh/mp7Cm/4c549112af.jpg fix
00:28:317 (5) - nc? lol I missed..Fix
00:56:552 (1,4) - slience the slider end? hears quite weird for mefix~
i'm quite busy with my exam these days, so the mod is a bit short and i havent check any metadata or hitsounds.
it's quite fine for a new mapper but i think it can be better, so try to find some more "quality" mods.

Thanks!

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Kawashiro 2016-01-10T12:33:28+00:00

수준높은 모딩을 더 받아오라네요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

GL

Down

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Down 2016-01-10T13:10:46+00:00

UnLock- wrote:
수준높은 모딩을 더 받아오라네요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

GL

수준높음의 기준은 무엇인가ㅁㄴㅇㄻㄴㅇㄹ

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Kawashiro 2016-01-10T13:15:19+00:00

저보다 10배는 더 섬세하고 꼼꼼한 모딩이요

fat pear

264 posts

Joined July 2014

fat pear 2016-01-12T02:42:20+00:00

sorry, i was very late, forgive me pls

Easy:
00:25:493 (5) - this slider looks bad
00:25:493 (5) - make the blanket perfect
01:07:140 (3) - try moving this circle to coordinates x:366, y:76 to make the spacing even
01:11:728 (2,3) - make blanket perfect

Taeyang's Normal:
why are some of the notes unsnapped to the grid?

00:08:552 (4) - make this a straight slider (angled slightly to the left) to make it look better
00:46:670 (1,2) - make this look like the same slider
00:56:552 (1,1) - stacking is not recommended in NM diffs

Hard:
00:22:141 (4,5,6,1) - not a perfect square

couldn't find any problems with Left's Insane

Rose's Insane:
00:41:729 (3,1) - this may be confusing for some players
00:42:964 (3) - slider not symmetrical

Soup Tabetai:
00:20:199 (3,4) - separate these notes to make it less confusing
01:00:257 (2,3) - ctrl+g? and 01:00:787 (4) - ctrl+g?

Down

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Down 2016-01-12T04:15:03+00:00

[ microism ] wrote:
sorry, i was very late, forgive me pls

Easy:
00:25:493 (5) - this slider looks bad ;w;
00:25:493 (5) - make the blanket perfect fix
01:07:140 (3) - try moving this circle to coordinates x:366, y:76 to make the spacing even fix
01:11:728 (2,3) - make blanket perfect fix

Hard:
00:22:141 (4,5,6,1) - not a perfect square fix

Soup Tabetai:
00:20:199 (3,4) - separate these notes to make it less confusing Yes, I think so. So, put it on the note(4) note(2).
01:00:257 (2,3) - ctrl+g? and 01:00:787 (4) - ctrl+g?I like things the way they are.

Thanks!

Rose Pacifica

238 posts

Joined February 2012

Rose Pacifica 2016-01-12T04:54:19+00:00

[quote="[ microism ]"]sorry, i was very late, forgive me pls

Rose's Insane:
00:41:729 (3,1) - this may be confusing for some players Fix
00:42:964 (3) - slider not symmetrical Fix

Thank you :3

FIX

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Akiyama Mizuki

2,710 posts

Joined March 2009

Akiyama Mizuki 2016-01-12T14:23:35+00:00

제 모딩은 꼼꼼하지 않습니다

이지
00:12:788 - 사용되지 않는 초록선
00:25:493 (5) - 일단 슬라이더 모양이 그리 좋은 편은 아닙니다. 00:24:082 (3) - 까지 싹 다 블랭킷 해서는 도저히 좋은 모양의 슬라이더는 안 나왔는데.. 최대한 건드려 본 건 이거입니다.

SPOILER

448,256,25493,2,8,B|417:253|386:227|379:195|379:195|372:161|357:156|341:156|328:164|321:181|280:200|232:176,1,270

00:31:141 (3) - 블랭킷

SPOILER

132,260,31141,2,8,B|195:292|265:257|267:184|267:184|312:160|312:109,1,270,10|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

00:42:435 (3,1,2) - 일직선에 놓아주세요.

태양의 맛 썬
무난무난

하드
00:19:317 (4) - 00:18:435 (1) - 을 건드리는 게 별로 보기 좋진 않습니다.
00:36:082 (2) - 에 노트를 두고 00:36:258 - 에 슬라이더를 두는 게 곡에 잘 맞습니다.
00:48:788 (3,4,5) - 좀 가까이 둬 주세요. 간격이 1/2이랑 같네요. 그리고 모양을 동일하게 하는 게 제 편에서는 더 나아 보입니다.

왼쪽
00:11:552 (2,1) - 00:11:905 (2,1) - 00:12:258 (2,1) - 이 두개씩이 붙어 있는 게 곡이랑 아예 맞지 않습니다. 곡을 잘 따라가는 이상적인 패턴은 제 생각에는 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4320348 이런 느낌인데... 대략 이렇게 고치는 걸 정말 추천드리고 싶습니다. 아니면 최소한 다른 시도라도 해주세요.
00:18:082 (9) - 처음에 나온 리버스 슬라이더는 홀수박자로 끝나는 반면에 여기선 갑자기 짝수가 나오는 게 가독성이 정말 떨어집니다.
00:25:405 - 에 노트 추가 하는 게 더 어울린다고 생각합니다

Roze Pacifica? :^)
00:04:229 (5,1) - 이런 식의 배치가 나오는 경우는 보통 블루틱의 박자를 강조할 때인데 여기선 아닙니다. 00:04:229 (5) - 의 하이햇보다는 00:04:317 (1) - 이 훨씬 강조할만한 가치가 있다고 생각합니다.

SPOILER

00:12:435 (9) - 사진처럼은 아니더라도 00:12:611 (10) - 과 좀 멀찍이 놓는 것이 좋다고 생각합니다. 곡에도 잘 맞고 현재 위치가 엉성한 감이 좀 있기도 합니다.

SPOILER

맵 괜찮네요

토쿠베츠나 수프 타베타이
01:09:610 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 제대로 된 육각형이 아니네요.. 큰 문제는 아닌데 되도록 바꾸시는 걸 추천합니다

Down

Featured Artist

643 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

Down 2016-01-12T14:42:57+00:00

bbj0920 wrote:
제 모딩은 꼼꼼하지 않습니다

이지
00:12:788 - 사용되지 않는 초록선 지웠습니다
00:25:493 (5) - 일단 슬라이더 모양이 그리 좋은 편은 아닙니다. 00:24:082 (3) - 까지 싹 다 블랭킷 해서는 도저히 좋은 모양의 슬라이더는 안 나왔는데.. 최대한 건드려 본 건 이거입니다. 오.. 코드까지;
SPOILER
448,256,25493,2,8,B|417:253|386:227|379:195|379:195|372:161|357:156|341:156|328:164|321:181|280:200|232:176,1,270
00:31:141 (3) - 블랭킷 fix
SPOILER
132,260,31141,2,8,B|195:292|265:257|267:184|267:184|312:160|312:109,1,270,10|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
00:42:435 (3,1,2) - 일직선에 놓아주세요. fix

하드
00:19:317 (4) - 00:18:435 (1) - 을 건드리는 게 별로 보기 좋진 않습니다. (1)을 이동시켜서 안겹치도록 했습니다.
00:36:082 (2) - 에 노트를 두고 00:36:258 - 에 슬라이더를 두는 게 곡에 잘 맞습니다. 그런것 같네요..
00:48:788 (3,4,5) - 좀 가까이 둬 주세요. 간격이 1/2이랑 같네요. 그리고 모양을 동일하게 하는 게 제 편에서는 더 나아 보입니다. fix

토쿠베츠나 수프 타베타이
01:09:610 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 제대로 된 육각형이 아니네요.. 큰 문제는 아닌데 되도록 바꾸시는 걸 추천합니다 사실 육각형의도는 아니였지만 보니까 육각형을 만드는것이 더 깔끔하네요. 고쳤습니다.

꼼꼼한 모딩 감사드립니다.

Rose Pacifica

238 posts

Joined February 2012

Rose Pacifica 2016-01-12T15:25:36+00:00

[quote="bbj0920"]제 모딩은 꼼꼼하지 않습니다

Roze Pacifica? :^)
00:04:229 (5,1) - 이런 식의 배치가 나오는 경우는 보통 블루틱의 박자를 강조할 때인데 여기선 아닙니다. 00:04:229 (5) - 의 하이햇보다는 00:04:317 (1) - 이 훨씬 강조할만한 가치가 있다고 생각합니다.

SPOILER

00:12:435 (9) - 사진처럼은 아니더라도 00:12:611 (10) - 과 좀 멀찍이 놓는 것이 좋다고 생각합니다. 곡에도 잘 맞고 현재 위치가 엉성한 감이 좀 있기도 합니다.

SPOILER

맵 괜찮네요

i love you bbj0920 XD
Thx

FIX

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Abe Nana

1,148 posts

Joined March 2011

Abe Nana 2016-01-12T15:29:58+00:00

Red : Unrankable issue / must fix.
Blue : Should be fixed / highly suggested.
Black : Just suggestion.
[General]

프리뷰 타임을 01:01:669 로 옮겨주세요sb/font/8.png - 페이드 시작점을 00:42:391 로 둬주세요- normal-hitnormal.wav
- normal-hitwhistle.wav 미사용 히트사운드입니다

[Taeyang's Normal]

00:09:611 - 00:10:317 - 00:10:405 - 00:56:463 - 미사용 타임라인00:19:141 (5) - 00:20:905 (3) - 00:24:082 (3) - out of space
전체적으로 재배치해주세요. 스페이싱이 어긋나있는게 눈에 많이 보이네요

[Taeyang's Normal]

00:25:493 (1) - 이게 허용되는건진 모르겠네요. 슬라이더의 경로를 가리는건 이지노말에선 깐깐한지라

[Hard]

00:26:552 - 00:35:023 - 00:35:729 - 00:36:082 - 00:56:463 - 00:57:258 - 00:57:610 - 미사용 타임라인

[Left's Insane]

없음

[Rose's Insane]

00:29:552 (5,6,1) - 역방향으로 연타배치해주세요01:11:728 (1) - 뉴콤보 제거

[Soup Tabetai]

00:23:641 (9) - 뉴콤보 추가01:13:140 미사용 타임라인

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Featured Artist

643 posts

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Topic Starter

Down 2016-01-13T01:31:17+00:00

-Chata- wrote:

Red : Unrankable issue / must fix.
Blue : Should be fixed / highly suggested.
Black : Just suggestion.
[General]
프리뷰 타임을 01:01:669 로 옮겨주세요 /넵sb/font/8.png - 페이드 시작점을 00:42:391 로 둬주세요 /넵- normal-hitnormal.wav
- normal-hitwhistle.wav 미사용 히트사운드입니다/ 지웠습니다.

[Taeyang's Normal] //Easy로 알고 고치겠습니다.
00:09:611 - 00:10:317 - 00:10:405 - 00:56:463 - 미사용 타임라인/ fix00:19:141 (5) - 00:20:905 (3) - 00:24:082 (3) - out of space/ fix
전체적으로 재배치해주세요. 스페이싱이 어긋나있는게 눈에 많이 보이네요
[Hard]
00:26:552 - 00:35:023 - 00:35:729 - 00:36:082 - 00:56:463 - 00:57:258 - 00:57:610 - 미사용 타임라인/ fix
[Soup Tabetai]
00:23:641 (9) - 뉴콤보 추가/ fix01:13:140 미사용 타임라인/ fix

미사용 타임라인잡기 힘드셨을텐데 고생하셨습니다.
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Rose Pacifica

238 posts

Joined February 2012

Rose Pacifica 2016-01-13T02:01:27+00:00

[quote="-Chata-"]

[b]
: Unrankable issue / must fix.
Blue : Should be fixe

d / highly suggested.
Black : Just suggestion.
[General]

[Rose's Insane]
[notice]

00:29:552 (5,6,1) - 역방향으로 연타배치해주세요
01:11:728 (1) - 뉴콤보 제거

Fix

osu file format v14

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Title:Attakain Dakara
TitleUnicode:あったかいんだからぁ♪
Artist:Hanatan
ArtistUnicode:花たん
Creator:Down
Version:Rose's Insane
Source:
Tags:kumamushi hatsune miku vocaloid left rose_pacifica taeyang
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Left 2016-01-13T06:25:14+00:00

bbj0920 wrote:
제 모딩은 꼼꼼하지 않습니다
왼쪽
00:11:552 (2,1) - 00:11:905 (2,1) - 00:12:258 (2,1) - 이 두개씩이 붙어 있는 게 곡이랑 아예 맞지 않습니다. 곡을 잘 따라가는 이상적인 패턴은 제 생각에는 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4320348 이런 느낌인데... 대략 이렇게 고치는 걸 정말 추천드리고 싶습니다. 아니면 최소한 다른 시도라도 해주세요. 비슷하게 fix~
00:18:082 (9) - 처음에 나온 리버스 슬라이더는 홀수박자로 끝나는 반면에 여기선 갑자기 짝수가 나오는 게 가독성이 정말 떨어집니다.fix, 이외에도 몇개 있어서 다 고쳤습니다.
00:25:405 - 에 노트 추가 하는 게 더 어울린다고 생각합니다 전 여기에 좀 빈느낌을 주겠습니다.

감사합니다~~

이외 수정사항
CS 4 -> 4.2
AR 9 -> 8.8
후반 패턴 변경 및 기본 디스턴스 증가 후살
점프패턴 변경

Sangzin

628 posts

Joined February 2013

Sangzin 2016-01-13T14:07:32+00:00

아니 요새 다들 똑같은 노래 두번 모딩하게 하는군요? ㅋㅋ

[SB]

초반부터 검은색보다는 판다랑 배경이랑 같이해서 있는게 좋을 거 같네요. 아님 페이드속도만 조절해주세요. 너무 빠른 거 같네요

[スープ食べたい]

00:11:905 (4,7) - 그냥 스택시키는 것도 좋을 거 같네요
00:20:464 - 00:20:817 - 00:24:876 - 00:25:229 - 이부분은 앞에서 모두 채워졌는데 이파트에서만 안채워져있으니 통일성이 떨어집니다. 딱히 비어있을 이유도 없어보이는 군요. 00:20:111 - 이부분은 뒤에서 패턴따라간다는 거 하에는 빠져도 괜찮지만, 저부분만 없으니 이상하네요.
00:23:641 (1) - 앞에서도 뉴콤 안넣은거 생각하면 여기도 안넣는게 좋다고 생각하네요.
01:07:846 (4) - 그냥 180도 돌려서 배치한 모습이 더 좋은 거 같네요.

그렇게 크게 문제되는 건 없어보이네요. 근데 좀 아쉽다고 생각한게 너무 DS를 하나만 중점이다보니 너무 딱딱해보인달까... 앞으로는 이렇게 DS를 하나로 한정지으면서 하지말고 어느정도 살짝씩 점프같은거 넣어보면서 매핑하면 더 좋다고 생각이 드네요.

[Roze's Insane]

AIMOD확인해주세요. 프리뷰포인트 다르다고 나옵니다.
00:03:964 (4,5,1) - 모양이 이상하네요. 간격 맞춰주는 게 더 좋다고 생각합니다.
00:23:288 (3) - 간격 좀 더 줄여주세요. 앞에거랑은 멀어서 리딩이 좀 헷갈리네요.
01:01:140 (5) - 앞에 뉴콤 넣을거면 다운비트부터인 여기서부터 뉴콤스팸을 하는게 좋다고 생각하네요.
01:08:905 (3) - 흠...여기서 3/4로 슬라이더를 만든 이유를 모르겠네요. 뒤에처럼 보컬이 길게 뻗어가는 느낌이 있는 것도 아닌데 1/2로 만드는 게 더 좋다고 생각이 드네요.
~~00:05:376 (4,5,6,7,1) - 이부분 오버매핑인줄 알고 지적하려고 했는데 아니였....~~잘찍으시네요 굳

[레프트4인세인]

00:01:494 (1,2,3) - 여기 중간의 1/2도 채우는 게 좋을 거 같네요. 앞부분이랑 뒷부분이랑 그닥 차이가 없어서 이부분에서 이상함을 느끼네요.
00:11:375 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 뉴콤따라 볼륨크기 조절하면 좋을 듯 하네요
00:25:493 - 레프트님 난이도에서만 여기에 브레이크타임이 있네요. 다른 난이도처럼 채우는 게 좋다고 생각합니다.
00:48:435 (3) - 여기에 1/3음은 없습니닷. 따른 패턴으로 바꿔주세욧
00:57:963 (4) - 그냥 1/2로 하는게 어울린다고 생각이 들긴 하네요.
00:59:552 (2) - 어느정도 헷갈릴 위험이 있어서 그냥 앞에서 쓰던 간격처럼 해서 1/2로 옮기면 좋을 거 같네요.
~~아 왜 힛사볼륨보고 움찔했지~~

[Hard]

음....이게 확실한 건지는 모르겠는데, 제가 알기로는 휘슬 이외에는 슬라이더 자체에 다른 걸 넣으면 안되는 걸로 알고있는데.....근데 이렇게 넣으면 끄는 소리까지 클랩적용되니 그냥 일일이 넣어주시는 게 좋다고 생각하네요. 이건 확실하지가 않으니까 븐이나 다른분에게 물어보셔야 할듯?
00:15:435 - 이렇게 비어있는 구간이 있으니까 허전하긴 하네요. 하드도 DS영향은 어느정도 받는지라 이건 다운님판단에 맡기겠습니다.
00:49:141 (4) - 개인적으로 오버랩 피해줬으면 좋겠다는 생각이 드네요. 그닥 좋아보이지가 않네요
00:59:728 (1,2) - 블랭킷

[Taeyang's Insane]

중간에 있는 브레이크타임 다른 난이도랑 똑같이 설정해주시는게?
에라

[Easy]

00:25:493 (5) - 이거는 중간에 나와있는 부분을 빨간색 점으로 처리하는 게 더 좋아보이네요.

크게 문제되는 건 없어보이네요. GL!
메에에에에에에엥

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Kawashiro 2016-01-13T14:09:50+00:00

뭐야 이 분위기... 나도 해줘야하나...

Down

Featured Artist

643 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

Down 2016-01-13T15:40:44+00:00

Sangzin wrote:
아니 요새 다들 똑같은 노래 두번 모딩하게 하는군요? ㅋㅋ 곡을 뺏김 ㅂㄷㅂㄷ

[SB]

초반부터 검은색보다는 판다랑 배경이랑 같이해서 있는게 좋을 거 같네요. 아님 페이드속도만 조절해주세요. 너무 빠른 거 같네요페이드속도를 조금 느리게 고쳤습니다.

[スープ食べたい]

00:11:905 (4,7) - 그냥 스택시키는 것도 좋을 거 같네요 살짝 밀어버리는 느낌을 내보는것이 의도였기 때문에 두겠습니다.
00:20:464 - 00:20:817 - 00:24:876 - 00:25:229 - 이부분은 앞에서 모두 채워졌는데 이파트에서만 안채워져있으니 통일성이 떨어집니다. 딱히 비어있을 이유도 없어보이는 군요. 00:20:111 - 이부분은 뒤에서 패턴따라간다는 거 하에는 빠져도 괜찮지만, 저부분만 없으니 이상하네요. 이부분을 채우고 싶긴 하지만 너무 복잡해질것 같아서 손을 못쓰고있네요.. 일단 보류 하겠습니다.
00:23:641 (1) - 앞에서도 뉴콤 안넣은거 생각하면 여기도 안넣는게 좋다고 생각하네요.fix
01:07:846 (4) - 그냥 180도 돌려서 배치한 모습이 더 좋은 거 같네요. 제 의도와는 다른듯해서 두겠습니다.

그렇게 크게 문제되는 건 없어보이네요. 근데 좀 아쉽다고 생각한게 너무 DS를 하나만 중점이다보니 너무 딱딱해보인달까... 앞으로는 이렇게 DS를 하나로 한정지으면서 하지말고 어느정도 살짝씩 점프같은거 넣어보면서 매핑하면 더 좋다고 생각이 드네요. //넵 충고 감사합니다!

[Roze's Insane]

AIMOD확인해주세요. 프리뷰포인트 다르다고 나옵니다. 히익 제가 설정을 잘못한듯.. 고치겠습니다.

[Hard]

음....이게 확실한 건지는 모르겠는데, 제가 알기로는 휘슬 이외에는 슬라이더 자체에 다른 걸 넣으면 안되는 걸로 알고있는데.....근데 이렇게 넣으면 끄는 소리까지 클랩적용되니 그냥 일일이 넣어주시는 게 좋다고 생각하네요. 이건 확실하지가 않으니까 븐이나 다른분에게 물어보셔야 할듯? !?
00:15:435 - 이렇게 비어있는 구간이 있으니까 허전하긴 하네요. 하드도 DS영향은 어느정도 받는지라 이건 다운님판단에 맡기겠습니다. 사실 채우기 어려워서 비어둔것은 사실입니다. 채워버리면 너무 복잡해질것 같다는 생각에 비워뒀는데 그것도 맘에 안들기도 하구요.. 복잡한것 보다는 허전하게 갈려고 합니다.
00:49:141 (4) - 개인적으로 오버랩 피해줬으면 좋겠다는 생각이 드네요. 그닥 좋아보이지가 않네요 fix
00:59:728 (1,2) - 블랭킷 스택노트라 어쩔수가 없더군요

[Easy]

00:25:493 (5) - 이거는 중간에 나와있는 부분을 빨간색 점으로 처리하는 게 더 좋아보이네요. bbj님이 만드신 슬라이더라서 제가건들면 떡이 되버립니다 ;w;

크게 문제되는 건 없어보이네요. GL!
메에에에에에에엥

모딩 감사합니다!

UnLock- wrote:
뭐야 이 분위기... 나도 해줘야하나...

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Doyak

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Doyak 2016-01-14T11:04:22+00:00

티켓 모딩입니다.

[General]
* 배경 이미지는 1366x768 또는 1024x768로 맞춰주세요.

[Easy]
* 이 기준은 수시로 변하곤 해서 100% 단정짓지는 못하겠지만, 이지에 스택을 쓰는 건 매우 위험합니다. 00:15:611 (3,4) - 00:18:435 (3,4) - 00:25:141 (4,5) - 00:47:729 (2,3) - 그래도 일관성 있는 리듬으로만 쓰이고 있어서 괜찮을진 모르겠는데, 가능하면 빼시는 걸 추천합니다.
* 00:33:258 (2,3) - 담요 다듬어주세요.
* 00:35:376 (1,2) - 빠른 노래의 이지에서 1/2 슬라이더는 그다지 추천하지 않는 바입니다. 00:36:435 - 이 박이 약한 만큼 http://puu.sh/mveaa/ad712b0522.jpg 이렇게 써보시는 걸 권장합니다.
* 01:11:022 (1,2,3,4) - 음악의 흐름으로 봤을 때, 01:11:728 (2,3) - 가 닮은 꼴인 것보다는 01:11:022 (1,2) - 와 01:12:434 (3,4) - 가 각각 패턴을 이루는 것이 더 안정적입니다. 지금은 흐름상으로도 상당히 뒤틀린 듯한 느낌이 들어서, 모양을 조금 다듬으셨으면 좋겠네요.

[Taeyang's Normal]
* 00:10:670 (2,3,4,5,6) - 너무 열차를 길게 안 하시려고 한 것 같은데, 드럼 소리가 점점 커지고 있는 곳이어서 00:11:905 - 가 빈 게 꽤 허전하게 느껴지네요. 소리는 똑같이 없더라도 아무것도 없게 하는 것보단 http://puu.sh/mvepj/f02492984f.jpg 이런 식으로 슬라 위라도 지나게 하면 좀 낫지 않을까요? 강한 소리인 00:11:729 - 를 클릭하게 만들어줄 수도 있고요.
* 00:48:788 (4) - 요상한 슬라이더라고 생각합니다. 왜냐하면 저기 드럼은 1/3이기 때문에 슬라이더의 끝점인 00:49:317 - 를 지나지 않아요. 그냥 00:49:141 - 에서 끝나게 하는 게 더 낫고 안전할 거라 생각합니다. 보컬이 거기서 끝난다고 따라가신 거라고 해도, 보컬이 시작하는 점이라면 몰라도 끝나는 점은 악기 소리에 비해 명료하지 않기 때문에 별로 좋은 선택은 아니라고 생각합니다. 01:13:140 (1) - 랑도 일관성이 안 맞네요.
* 01:15:257 (1) - 스피너 시작점은 전혀 강조점이 되지 못한다는 것 알고 계실 겁니다. 게다가 그 전에 한참 쉬기까지 해서 많이 공허한 느낌이에요. 이왕이면 01:15:257 - 뿐만 아니라 01:14:552 - 소리도 같이 살려서 슬라이더로 길게 뽑는다던가, 하는 것도 좋을 거 같습니다.

[Hard]
* 이 난이도에 대해 전반적인 제 느낌을 말씀드리자면, 노트의 밀도와 격렬도가 상당히 랜덤하게 왔다갔다하고, 부분부분 생략되는 박자들과 클릭의 위치 등이 일관되지 않아서 무엇을 따라가려는 것인지 확실하지가 않습니다. 일단 몇가지 짚어볼텐데, 참고해서 잘 수정해보세요.
* 00:02:729 (4) - 저는 이 노트의 의미를 잘 모르겠습니다. 물론 저기에 드럼소리는 있습니다. 그런데 이 난이도가 지금 그렇게 모든 1/2을 다 메워가는 난이도가 아니라는 점이 걸립니다. 무슨 뜻이냐면, 바로 앞뒤에 00:02:023 (2) - 그리고 00:03:435 - 와 비교를 해보면, 드럼 소리는 다 일정하게 나고 있는데, 유독 00:03:435 - 만 비워져 있네요. 오히려 음악적인 면에서 봤을 때 00:02:905 - 를 중심으로 앞뒤 마디가 나뉘는 것인데 이 앞으로는 연결이 되어 있고 한 마디 내에서는 끊어져 있다는 것은 이해하기 어렵습니다. 소리의 양으로 비교를 해봐도, 00:02:023 - 00:03:435 - 에는 보컬이 확연하게 있는 반면에 00:02:729 - 에는 존재하지 않습니다.
* 계속 이어서, 00:05:552 (4) - 도 비슷하게, 그다지 중요하지 않은 비트이고 끊어주어도 괜찮습니다. 그런데 오히려 더 중요한 드럼이 있는 00:08:376 - 는 도리어 비워놓으셨군요. 이 부분에 대해 일관성을 만들어 봅시다. 저 1/2들은, 보컬이 있는 곳에는 노트를 배치하고 아닌 곳은 넣지 않는다, 어떤가요?
* 00:08:552 (1,2,3,4) - 드럼, 보컬 모두 일정하지 않게 나고 있는 박자에서, 너무 리듬과 패턴을 평범하게 한 느낌입니다. 가령 00:09:258 (3) - 을 보면, 00:09:258 - 에는 보컬이 없고 00:09:435 - 는 새 보컬이 시작되어 강한 느낌을 주고 있습니다. 따라서 http://puu.sh/mvfdc/e423d3c5dc.jpg 이와 같이 써볼 수 있을 겁니다.
* 00:10:670 (3,4,5,1) - 여기도 비슷합니다. 드럼 소리가 3, 4, 5만 나고 끝나버리는 게 아닌데, 왜 보컬까지 있는 00:11:199 - 를 그대로 훌쩍 건너뛰신 건지 이해가 잘 되지 않습니다. 저라면 http://puu.sh/mvfng/92fb58ffd3.jpg 를 추천하겠습니다.
* 00:16:141 (3,4,5) - 그다지 예쁜 흐름은 아닌 것 같습니다. 2, 3을 반시계 방향으로 돌려서 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4331872 이렇게 3, 4, 5가 일직선이 되게 만들어본다거나 할 수 있습니다.
* 00:20:729 (4,5,6,1,2) - 모양은 대충 나온 것 같지만 역시 흐름이 별로입니다. 00:23:552 (6,7,8,1,2) - 와도 더불어서 좀 더 안정감 있는 흐름을 고려해보셨으면 해요.
* 00:28:141 - 00:30:964 - 둘을 비교해봅시다. 앞뒤에 뭔가가 달라서 하나는 서클을 넣고 하나는 빼신 건가요?
* 00:28:670 (2,3,4) - 이것도 취향의 차이일 수도 있지만, 그 전에 00:26:905 (1,2,3,1) - 에서 보컬이 노트에 착 달라붙는 느낌이 매우 강했습니다. 그러니 여기서도 정박 클릭보다는 보다 보컬에 초점을 둘 수 있는 박자를 고려해볼 수 있습니다. http://puu.sh/mvfC4/39a411d1db.jpg
* 00:32:552 (1) - 이 노트를 보면 이건 100% 보컬에 초점을 둔 부분이네요. 00:32:905 - 이렇게나 강한 박자를 그냥 지나쳤으니까요. 그런데 지금까지 해오신 걸 보면 흰 틱의 드럼을 지금까지 일절 무시하지 않으시다가, 여기서 갑자기 중요한 나사가 툭 빠져버렸다는 느낌을 지울 수 없습니다. 더군다나 바로 뒤에 훨씬 약한 비트이고 보컬이 없는 00:34:670 - 는 무려 클릭으로 잡아주셨죠. 다시 말해서, 리듬의 세분화가 필요한 부분입니다.
* 00:34:317 (2,3) - 그래서 다시 이거에 대해 이야기해보자면, 여기도 무작정 다 흰틱 클릭으로 밀고 가는 것보다는 00:34:317 - 00:34:493 - 00:34:846 - 에 있는 보컬들에 더 초점을 두어주는 것도 좋은 방법입니다. http://puu.sh/mvfNk/7eb6c3a260.jpg 대략 이런 식으로요.
* 00:36:435 - 그런데 또 이런 드럼 소리는 빼놓으셔서, 무엇을 따라가고 계신 건지가 매우 불분명합니다. 이 맵에 대해 제가 전반적으로 느끼는 문제는 그겁니다. 여기의 경우는 00:36:611 - 소리를 강조해주기 위해서라도 슬라이더를 1/2로 줄이고 서클을 하나 넣는 편이 낫습니다. 혹시 슬라이더 틱에 넣은 힛사가 그 느낌을 커버해줄 거라고 생각하신다면, 슬라이더 틱 힛사는 별로 권장되는 것도 아닐 뿐더러 플레이 시 거의 무시되는 요소이기 때문에 그야말로 소리로만 들을 수 있을 뿐 플레이 자체에 영향을 주지 않아서 거의 효과가 없습니다.
* 00:40:141 (2,3,4) - 위에랑 같은 이야기니 반복하지 않겠습니다.
* 00:42:611 - 여기 보컬도 너무 갑작스럽게 빠진 느낌이니 메우시는 걸 추천합니다.
* 00:44:376 (2,3) - 이건 오히려 반대로 됐습니다. 00:44:552 - 00:44:729 - 모두에 비슷한 톤으로 소리가 있다면 이럴 땐 강한 드럼이 함께해주는 00:44:552 - 가 클릭이 되는 것이 더 좋은 강조 효과를 줍니다. 00:45:435 (2) - 도 마찬가지입니다. 여기는 슬라 끝의 보컬이 크기까지 하네요.
* 00:59:728 (1) - 굳이 중간에 01:00:081 - 를 빠뜨릴 이유를 모르겠습니다. 그 정도로 길게 나는 소리가 있는 것도 아니고, 직전에 1/1 드럼들을 다 잡아주면서 오셨는데 말이죠.
* 01:06:610 (4) - 앞에랑 같은 이유로 끊어줘도 괜찮을 노트입니다. 일단 보컬이 거기서 딱 끊기는 느낌이 나니까요.
* 01:07:669 - 여기는 반대로 빠져서 아쉬운 소리
* 01:08:199 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - 드럼을 잘 들어봅시다. 여기 드럼이 이렇게 평범하게 나는 구간인가요? 이런 식으로 나는 드럼 구간에는 그 나름의 특히 강한 드럼들이 있습니다. 01:08:199 - 01:08:905 - 01:09:434 - 01:09:610 - 01:09:787 - 01:10:316 - 등이 그것입니다. 태양님 노말을 보시면 이 소리들은 다 잡아줬다는 것을 알 수 있습니다. 여기는 하드이고 1/2 대부분을 메워주고 있으므로, 클릭되는 곳과 그렇지 않은 곳을 통한 강조가 더 필요합니다. 01:08:728 - 01:10:493 - 같은 곳은 새로운 보컬 시작점이니 곁들여서 잡아주는 것도 좋고요. http://puu.sh/mvglZ/e1ab8554a4.jpg 이렇게 한 번 해보세요.
* 01:15:257 (1) - 태양님 노말에도 썼지만 이 사이가 매우 허전합니다. 스피너 시작점은 어떤 소리에 대한 강조를 해주지 못합니다. 01:14:552 - 는 악기가 없어서 그렇다 치더라도, 01:15:257 - 에서 힛사가 나지 않는다는 것은 제가 보기엔 별로 좋지가 않습니다. 저라면 두 곳 다 메우겠지만, 태양님하고도 상의해서 한 번 맞춰보세요.

[Left's Insane]
* 00:01:494 (1,2) - 도입부라고는 하지만 너무 단순하다는 느낌을 받았습니다. 그 이후로 조금도 쉴 틈 없이 1/2을 꽉 메워주고 있는 것에 비해서 허전하게 느껴집니다.
* 00:14:199 - 연타 구간 전체에 대해: 드럼이 심히 반복적이어서 여러모로 변형을 주고 싶으셨던 것 같습니다. 그런데 지금은 너무 일관성 없이 연타가 여기 나타났다가 저기 나타났다가 하는 것 같아요. 굳이 박자 자체를 다르게 쓰지 않더라도 같은 리듬을 유지하면서 노트 사용을 달리할 수도 있습니다. 1/4 킥슬라의 활용, 왕복 슬라 등을 섞어가면서 비슷한 리듬을 유지한 상태로 변형을 시켜가는 것이 저 부분을 매핑하는 데에 제일 좋은 방법이라고 생각합니다. 특히 마지막에 00:24:082 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 는 갑자기 많던 연타들이 다 사라져서 허전하게 느껴졌어요. 현악기 소리에 맞추신 건 알겠는데 그 소리는 이전에도 계속 나고 있었고 드럼이 여기에서 사라진 것도 아니고, 또 00:25:317 (4,1) - 이 사이에도 현악기 소리는 더 크게 계속 나는데 여기는 비워놓으신 것도 일관성이 없다고 생각합니다.
* 00:48:435 (3) - 올바른 스냅이 아닙니다. 힛사 없이 느리게 들어보시면 알겠지만, 여기의 박자는 1/3이 아니라 00:48:435 - 00:48:611 - 00:48:699 - 이렇게 1/4 계열입니다.
* 00:57:963 (4) - 잘 이해가 되지 않네요. 00:56:552 (1) - 랑 똑같이 맞추신 것 같은데 그게 표현한 소리가 이쪽에 있지는 않으니까요.
* 00:59:375 (1,2,1,2) - 앞의 00:59:375 (1,2) - 를 보면 분명 보컬 강조용 점프입니다. 그런데 01:00:610 - 에 있는 보컬은 그대로 씹혀서, 앞에서 갑자기 보컬을 왜 강조해줬는가 싶게 만들었습니다. 전반적으로 드럼 따라가고 계시니 차라리 아예 그쪽의 강한 보컬도 무시하시고 드럼만 철저하게 표현하시는 편이 나으리라 생각합니다.
* 01:11:199 (2,3,4,5,6) - 여기도 지금 무엇을 따라가려 하는 것인지 약간 혼란스럽게 합니다. 일단 01:11:375 (3) - 가 길게 늘어진 건 보컬의 느낌도 같이 살린 거라고 보면, 좋습니다. 그런데 01:12:081 (6) - 는 맞지가 않습니다. 01:12:257 - 에 보컬이 하나 떡하니 있는데도 여기가 무시되고 아무런 소리가 없는 01:12:346 - 까지 슬라이더를 늘려 쓰셔서 뭔가 바뀌어버린 느낌입니다.
* 01:15:257 (1) - 위에 노말, 하드와 같은 지적입니다. 그쪽을 참고해주세요.
잠깐 저녁 좀 먹고 오겠... 레프트님 인센 아직 적을 말이 더 있...었는데 손닉님 글을 보니 이건 말하지 않는 게 나을 것 같네요.

[Rose's Insane]
* 00:15:964 (2,3) - 00:17:288 (2,3) - 00:23:023 (2,3) - 개인적으로, 이것들이 1/4 간격이라는 걸 알아채기가 매우 어려웠습니다. 저것과 비슷하거나 심지어는 더 작은 간격들도 1/2 간격인게 많은데 굉장히 넓은 1/4들을 봐도 이게 1/2인지 1/4인지를 단번에 보기가 어렵네요. 저렇게 서클에 슬라가 바로 붙어있는 패턴 전체까지를 보아야 아차 1/4이구나 하고 달려가는데 이미 때는 늦은 뒤입니다. 간격을 조금 좁혔으면 좋겠네요.
* 01:02:375 (2,1) - 여기는 조금 더 벌렸으면 하는 바람입니다. 키아이에 들어가는 음이기도 하고 특별히 큰 소리가 있으니까요.
* 01:15:257 (1) - 노말 하드 레프트인센 까지의 지적과 같습니다. 스피너 시작이 강조점을 만들지 못하니, 노트를 하나 넣고 그 뒤부터 스피너를 시작하는 것이 낫다고 생각합니다.

[Soup Tabetai]
* 이거 큐리님 맵셋이랑 난이도 이름이 같은데 합의해서 서로 다르게 하는 게 낫지 않을까요?
* 00:36:435 (1,2) - 각자가 00:36:258 (4) - 와 이루는 거리가 같으면 더 단정해 보일 것 같습니다.
* 00:42:082 (2,3) - 예스! 하는 소리가 강한데 흐름은 평범하게 흘러가서 좀 아쉽네요.
* 00:59:552 (8,1) - 제일 강한 소리라 거리는 제일 커야 한다고 생각해요. 01:10:846 (8,1) - 도요.
* 01:03:081 (2,3) - 불필요하게 많이 꺾이는 흐름이라고 생각합니다. 01:02:375 (9,1) - 여기에서 한 번 제대로 했으니 이쪽은 좀 더 평범하게 흘려보내는 게 좋을 거 같아요.
* 01:00:257 - 사실상 거의 소리가 없는 부분인데 클릭을 시키셨네요. 여기에 노트가 안 들어가게끔 하는 방법을 생각해보셨으면 좋겠네요.
* 01:05:287 - 01:08:110 - 3연타가 들어가기 딱 좋은 곳이 아닐까요?
* 01:12:081 (2,1) - 앞에서부터 흐름이 꺾이지 않고 이어져나가는 느낌이라, 거리가 좁아서 안티점프의 느낌이 났어요. 01:11:375 (2,1) - 처럼 흐름이 반대가 되게 하면 일관성 있게 같은 박자들을 표현해줄 수 있을 것 같아요.
* 01:13:140 (3) - 박자가 1/3이라는 어려운 리듬으로 바뀌는 곳이라 새로운 느낌을 위해 뉴콤하는 것도 좋아보여요. 앞에서 01:11:022 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 이렇게 하기도 했으니 한 번 더 끊는다는 느낌도 있고요.
* 01:15:257 (1) - Rose's Insane과 같습니다.

손닉님 말씀 듣고 모딩이 위축되어 버렸습니다... 암튼 굿럭

Last edited by Doyak 2016-01-14T14:17:16+00:00, edited 3 times in total.

Sonnyc

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Joined June 2008

Sonnyc 2016-01-14T11:53:53+00:00

Doyak wrote:
[Hard]
* 계속 이어서, 00:05:552 (4) - 도 비슷하게, 그다지 중요하지 않은 비트이고 끊어주어도 괜찮습니다. 그런데 오히려 더 중요한 드럼이 있는 00:08:376 - 는 도리어 비워놓으셨군요. 이 부분에 대해 일관성을 만들어 봅시다. 저 1/2들은, 보컬이 있는 곳에는 노트를 배치하고 아닌 곳은 넣지 않는다, 어떤가요? // 00:02:729 (4) - 00:05:552 (4) - 에서 두 노트는 일관성을 보이고 있습니다. 본질적인 존재 이유가 문제시 된다면 어쩔 수 없지만, 매퍼는 나름의 균일성을 보이는 상황에서 00:03:435 - 00:06:258 - 의 차이에 주목해보시는 건 어떠셨을까요? 그 차이는 왜 존재하는지 생각해 보셨나요?
* 00:08:552 (1,2,3,4) - 드럼, 보컬 모두 일정하지 않게 나고 있는 박자에서, 너무 리듬과 패턴을 평범하게 한 느낌입니다. 가령 00:09:258 (3) - 을 보면, 00:09:258 - 에는 보컬이 없고 00:09:435 - 는 새 보컬이 시작되어 강한 느낌을 주고 있습니다. 따라서 http://puu.sh/mvfdc/e423d3c5dc.jpg 이와 같이 써볼 수 있을 겁니다. // 매퍼가 60도 회전이라는 특수한 패턴을 사용하는 상황에서 패턴을 강조하기 위한 목적으로 00:08:376 을 비워보셨다는 생각을 해 보셨나요? 현재의 패턴을 뒤엎을 정도로 기존의 표현이 미미했다고 보시나요?
* 00:32:552 (1) - 이 노트를 보면 이건 100% 보컬에 초점을 둔 부분이네요. 00:32:905 - 이렇게나 강한 박자를 그냥 지나쳤으니까요. 그런데 지금까지 해오신 걸 보면 흰 틱의 드럼을 지금까지 일절 무시하지 않으시다가, 여기서 갑자기 중요한 나사가 툭 빠져버렸다는 느낌을 지울 수 없습니다. 더군다나 바로 뒤에 훨씬 약한 비트이고 보컬이 없는 00:34:670 - 는 무려 클릭으로 잡아주셨죠. 다시 말해서, 리듬의 세분화가 필요한 부분입니다. // 기존의 슬라 아트를 뒤엎어서라도 리듬의 세분화가 필요하다고 생각하시나요?
* 00:36:435 - 그런데 또 이런 드럼 소리는 빼놓으셔서, 무엇을 따라가고 계신 건지가 매우 불분명합니다. // 보컬을 충실히 따라갔다는 생각을 해 보셨나요?
* 00:44:376 (2,3) - 이건 오히려 반대로 됐습니다. 00:44:552 - 00:44:729 - 모두에 비슷한 톤으로 소리가 있다면 이럴 땐 강한 드럼이 함께해주는 00:44:552 - 가 클릭이 되는 것이 더 좋은 강조 효과를 줍니다. 00:45:435 (2) - 도 마찬가지입니다. 여기는 슬라 끝의 보컬이 크기까지 하네요. // 00:44:376 (2) 의 박자가 부드러운 보컬을 표현하기 위해 사용되었다고 생각해 보셨나요? 00:45:435 (2) 도 마찬가지로요?
* 00:59:728 (1) - 굳이 중간에 01:00:081 - 를 빠뜨릴 이유를 모르겠습니다. 그 정도로 길게 나는 소리가 있는 것도 아니고, 직전에 1/1 드럼들을 다 잡아주면서 오셨는데 말이죠. // 여기서도, 기존의 슬라 아트를 뒤엎어서라도 리듬의 세분화가 필요하다고 생각하시나요?

매퍼의 로직을 파악하고 한 모딩이 아니라 너무 본인의 로직으로만 한 모딩은 아닌가하는 생각이 들었어요.
지나가다가 그냥 포스팅해봅니다. 도약님께 거는 기대가 커요.

Doyak

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Doyak 2016-01-14T12:32:51+00:00

Sonnyc wrote:
매퍼의 로직을 파악하고 한 모딩이 아니라 너무 본인의 로직으로만 한 모딩은 아닌가하는 생각이 들었어요.
지나가다가 그냥 포스팅해봅니다. 도약님께 거는 기대가 커요.

카페에 글 쓰신 것처럼 손닉님의 생각은 '모딩은 완전히 객관적이거나, 완전히 그 매퍼의 입장에서 생각해야 한다' 라는 건 알고 있습니다. 하지만 저는 그와 동시에 이렇게도 생각하고, 이렇게 많이 들어왔습니다: '모든 모딩은 그냥 제안이다. 고치고 안 고치고는 매퍼 본인에게 달렸다.' 제가 다운 님이 아니기 때문에 모든 의도를 파악하고 모딩할 수는 없습니다. 그래서 저는 제가 보기에 어색했던 부분을 일단 지적하고 봅니다. 거기에 제가 알아채지 못한 의도가 있었을 수도 있죠. 그렇다면 저는 그 매퍼가 답변할 때 왜 그렇게 했는지에 대한 이유를 듣는 것으로 충분합니다. 매퍼 입장에서도, 다른 모더들은 이렇게 생각하는구나, 하는 걸 생각해볼 수 있고, 자기의 원래 생각보다도 더 낫다고 느껴지는 제안이 모딩에 들어있을 수도 있습니다.

제가 슬라 아트가 있던 부분들에 대해 지적한 것도 절대로 그 아트를 부수고 싶어서 저격한 것이 아니고, 다운 님이 바꾸기 싫으시다면 안 바꾸셔도 됩니다. 하지만 제가 느끼기에 슬라 아트로 인해 무시된 비트들은 좀 아쉬웠다는 거죠. 만약 다운 님이 판단하시기에 그 슬라 아트들을 부숴서라도 제 제안을 따르는 것이 좋다고 생각하신다면 스스로 고치실 겁니다.

* 00:36:435 - 그런데 또 이런 드럼 소리는 빼놓으셔서, 무엇을 따라가고 계신 건지가 매우 불분명합니다. // 보컬을 충실히 따라갔다는 생각을 해 보셨나요?

여기를 예로 들자면, 손닉님 매핑 스타일을 생각해봐도 이런 부분은 별로 어색함이 없다고 느끼실 거라는 걸 저도 압니다. 그런데 저한텐 어색했어요. 보컬을 충실히 따라간 것은 맞는데, 조금 전 앞부분하고는 다르니까요. 매퍼의 '최초의' 생각이 있었다고 해서 그것만 존중해서 모더들이 절대 터치하지 말아야 한다면, 매퍼가 맵을 랭크시키기 전에 좀 더 폭넓게 다듬을 기회조차 생기지 않고 넘어가게 되겠죠. 텟플을 받는 이유랑 비슷합니다. 자기는 어색하지 않았어도, 다른 사람들이 플레이해보고 어색한 부분이 있었다면 피드백을 받은 매퍼가 수정을 고려해볼 수 있는 거죠.

저에 대한 기대가 크시다니 영광입니다.

Down

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Down 2016-01-14T14:35:24+00:00

Doyak wrote:
티켓 모딩입니다.

[Easy]
* 이 기준은 수시로 변하곤 해서 100% 단정짓지는 못하겠지만, 이지에 스택을 쓰는 건 매우 위험합니다. 00:15:611 (3,4) - 00:18:435 (3,4) - 00:25:141 (4,5) - 00:47:729 (2,3) - 그래도 일관성 있는 리듬으로만 쓰이고 있어서 괜찮을진 모르겠는데, 가능하면 빼시는 걸 추천합니다. 일단은 보류해두겠습니다. 확실한 언랭기준이 된다면 그때 바꾸겠습니다. 지금 딱히 생각나는 대안책이 없네요..
* 00:33:258 (2,3) - 담요 다듬어주세요. fix
* 00:35:376 (1,2) - 빠른 노래의 이지에서 1/2 슬라이더는 그다지 추천하지 않는 바입니다. 00:36:435 - 이 박이 약한 만큼 http://puu.sh/mveaa/ad712b0522.jpg 이렇게 써보시는 걸 권장합니다. fix
* 01:11:022 (1,2,3,4) - 음악의 흐름으로 봤을 때, 01:11:728 (2,3) - 가 닮은 꼴인 것보다는 01:11:022 (1,2) - 와 01:12:434 (3,4) - 가 각각 패턴을 이루는 것이 더 안정적입니다. 지금은 흐름상으로도 상당히 뒤틀린 듯한 느낌이 들어서, 모양을 조금 다듬으셨으면 좋겠네요. 말씀하신대로 (1,2)와 (3,4)가 비슷한 패턴을 이루도록 고쳤습니다.

[Hard]
* 이 난이도에 대해 전반적인 제 느낌을 말씀드리자면, 노트의 밀도와 격렬도가 상당히 랜덤하게 왔다갔다하고, 부분부분 생략되는 박자들과 클릭의 위치 등이 일관되지 않아서 무엇을 따라가려는 것인지 확실하지가 않습니다. 일단 몇가지 짚어볼텐데, 참고해서 잘 수정해보세요. 일단 꼼꼼하게 모딩해주신것 감사합니다. 제가 티켓을 드렸지만 저도 이렇게 꼼꼼하게 모딩을 할수있을지 걱정이 됩니다.

제가 드리고싶은 피드백은 일단 스타일 차이가 심해서 모딩하시느라 답답함을 느끼셨을껍니다. 저도 모딩받아보고 막막했었거든요. 도약님이 잡으신 부분은 거의 곡의 강조된부분, 약한부분을 표현하는 매핑방식 또는 드럼, 보컬 중 하나를 확실히 선택하자는 방식으로 잡아주셨는데 제가 찍은거랑은 많이 달라서요..

저번에 도약님께 Ama no Jaku라는 곡을 IRC로 모딩을 받고나서 조언하신대로 리맵을 했습니다. (아직 더 고쳐야합니만..) 그때는 제가 기초도 모르고 있었을때라서 기초부터 차근차근 알려주셔서 매핑을 시작하는데 많은 도움이 됬습니다. 그래서 지금은 도약님 덕분에 맵다운 맵을 만들기 시작한것 같습니다.

지금 이 맵은 여러개의 모딩이 이미 거쳐있는 상태이고 BN의 리체크를 앞둔 맵입니다. 도약님이 적어주신 모딩은 모두 일리있는 말씀이고, 다시 맵을 만든다면 많이 도움들이 되는 모딩이었습니다. 하지만 다 고치기에는 이미 늦은것 같습니다. 저는 아직 곡에대한 표현방법을 잘 모르고 매핑을 한것 같아서 손닉님이 안계셨다면 저는 이 모딩들을 다 따라가서 제맵이 아닌 도약님의 맵이 될뻔 했습니다. 하나하나 잘 읽어보고 제가 잘 걸러서 고치도록 노력해보겠습니다.

다시한번 꼼꼼하게 모딩해주신것에 대해서 감사합니다.

* 00:02:729 (4) - 저는 이 노트의 의미를 잘 모르겠습니다. 물론 저기에 드럼소리는 있습니다. 그런데 이 난이도가 지금 그렇게 모든 1/2을 다 메워가는 난이도가 아니라는 점이 걸립니다. 무슨 뜻이냐면, 바로 앞뒤에 00:02:023 (2) - 그리고 00:03:435 - 와 비교를 해보면, 드럼 소리는 다 일정하게 나고 있는데, 유독 00:03:435 - 만 비워져 있네요. 오히려 음악적인 면에서 봤을 때 00:02:905 - 를 중심으로 앞뒤 마디가 나뉘는 것인데 이 앞으로는 연결이 되어 있고 한 마디 내에서는 끊어져 있다는 것은 이해하기 어렵습니다. 소리의 양으로 비교를 해봐도, 00:02:023 - 00:03:435 - 에는 보컬이 확연하게 있는 반면에 00:02:729 - 에는 존재하지 않습니다. 00:03:435 (2) - 이부분에 노트를 추가했습니다.
* 계속 이어서, 00:05:552 (4) - 도 비슷하게, 그다지 중요하지 않은 비트이고 끊어주어도 괜찮습니다. 그런데 오히려 더 중요한 드럼이 있는 00:08:376 - 는 도리어 비워놓으셨군요. 이 부분에 대해 일관성을 만들어 봅시다. 저 1/2들은, 보컬이 있는 곳에는 노트를 배치하고 아닌 곳은 넣지 않는다, 어떤가요? 00:05:552 (4) -는 00:04:317 (1,2) -의 대칭패턴으로 만든겁니다. 00:08:376 (4) - 이부분은 노트를 추가했습니다.
* 00:08:552 (1,2,3,4) - 드럼, 보컬 모두 일정하지 않게 나고 있는 박자에서, 너무 리듬과 패턴을 평범하게 한 느낌입니다. 가령 00:09:258 (3) - 을 보면, 00:09:258 - 에는 보컬이 없고 00:09:435 - 는 새 보컬이 시작되어 강한 느낌을 주고 있습니다. 따라서 http://puu.sh/mvfdc/e423d3c5dc.jpg 이와 같이 써볼 수 있을 겁니다. 확실히 음을 따라가는 느낌이 나고 좋긴하지만 패턴을 깨면서까지 따라가고 싶지는 않았습니다. 그래서 두겠습니다.
* 00:10:670 (3,4,5,1) - 여기도 비슷합니다. 드럼 소리가 3, 4, 5만 나고 끝나버리는 게 아닌데, 왜 보컬까지 있는 00:11:199 - 를 그대로 훌쩍 건너뛰신 건지 이해가 잘 되지 않습니다. 저라면 http://puu.sh/mvfng/92fb58ffd3.jpg 를 추천하겠습니다. 이부분은 조금더 생각을 해서 바꾸겠습니다. 뭔가 빈 느낌은 저도 잘 알거같은데 도약님이 적어주신 박자로 패턴을 낼려면 약간 더 생각을 해봐야 할것 같습니다. 조언 감사합니다.
* 00:16:141 (3,4,5) - 그다지 예쁜 흐름은 아닌 것 같습니다. 2, 3을 반시계 방향으로 돌려서 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4331872 이렇게 3, 4, 5가 일직선이 되게 만들어본다거나 할 수 있습니다. fix
* 00:20:729 (4,5,6,1,2) - 모양은 대충 나온 것 같지만 역시 흐름이 별로입니다. 00:23:552 (6,7,8,1,2) - 와도 더불어서 좀 더 안정감 있는 흐름을 고려해보셨으면 해요. 노력을 해보겠습니다.
* 00:28:141 - 00:30:964 - 둘을 비교해봅시다. 앞뒤에 뭔가가 달라서 하나는 서클을 넣고 하나는 빼신 건가요? 00:28:141 (4) - 에 노트추가 했습니다.
* 00:28:670 (2,3,4) - 이것도 취향의 차이일 수도 있지만, 그 전에 00:26:905 (1,2,3,1) - 에서 보컬이 노트에 착 달라붙는 느낌이 매우 강했습니다. 그러니 여기서도 정박 클릭보다는 보다 보컬에 초점을 둘 수 있는 박자를 고려해볼 수 있습니다. http://puu.sh/mvfC4/39a411d1db.jpg 이부분도 박자보다는 회전슬라패턴으로 두고싶네요.
* 00:32:552 (1) - 이 노트를 보면 이건 100% 보컬에 초점을 둔 부분이네요. 00:32:905 - 이렇게나 강한 박자를 그냥 지나쳤으니까요. 그런데 지금까지 해오신 걸 보면 흰 틱의 드럼을 지금까지 일절 무시하지 않으시다가, 여기서 갑자기 중요한 나사가 툭 빠져버렸다는 느낌을 지울 수 없습니다. 더군다나 바로 뒤에 훨씬 약한 비트이고 보컬이 없는 00:34:670 - 는 무려 클릭으로 잡아주셨죠. 다시 말해서, 리듬의 세분화가 필요한 부분입니다. 00:32:552 (1) - 저는 이상태로 두고 싶습니다.
* 00:34:317 (2,3) - 그래서 다시 이거에 대해 이야기해보자면, 여기도 무작정 다 흰틱 클릭으로 밀고 가는 것보다는 00:34:317 - 00:34:493 - 00:34:846 - 에 있는 보컬들에 더 초점을 두어주는 것도 좋은 방법입니다. http://puu.sh/mvfNk/7eb6c3a260.jpg 대략 이런 식으로요. 이부분도 박자에맞는 패턴이 딱히 생각나는게 없네요. 생각나면 고쳐보도록 하겠습니다.
* 00:36:435 - 그런데 또 이런 드럼 소리는 빼놓으셔서, 무엇을 따라가고 계신 건지가 매우 불분명합니다. 이 맵에 대해 제가 전반적으로 느끼는 문제는 그겁니다. 여기의 경우는 00:36:611 - 소리를 강조해주기 위해서라도 슬라이더를 1/2로 줄이고 서클을 하나 넣는 편이 낫습니다. 혹시 슬라이더 틱에 넣은 힛사가 그 느낌을 커버해줄 거라고 생각하신다면, 슬라이더 틱 힛사는 별로 권장되는 것도 아닐 뿐더러 플레이 시 거의 무시되는 요소이기 때문에 그야말로 소리로만 들을 수 있을 뿐 플레이 자체에 영향을 주지 않아서 거의 효과가 없습니다. 세분화 시켜서 표현해봤습니다.
* 00:40:141 (2,3,4) - 위에랑 같은 이야기니 반복하지 않겠습니다. 저는 이부분은 잘 맞는다고 생각합니다.
* 00:42:611 - 여기 보컬도 너무 갑작스럽게 빠진 느낌이니 메우시는 걸 추천합니다. 00:42:435 (1) - 을 퍼즐처럼 조립했다는 느낌으로 둔거라서 분해하기 난해합니다. 분해한다면 오히려 난잡해보일지도 모르겠습니다. 그래서 두겠습니다.
* 00:44:376 (2,3) - 이건 오히려 반대로 됐습니다. 00:44:552 - 00:44:729 - 모두에 비슷한 톤으로 소리가 있다면 이럴 땐 강한 드럼이 함께해주는 00:44:552 - 가 클릭이 되는 것이 더 좋은 강조 효과를 줍니다. 00:45:435 (2) - 도 마찬가지입니다. 여기는 슬라 끝의 보컬이 크기까지 하네요. 저는 딱히 어색하다고 느낀것은 없었으니 두겠습니다.
* 00:59:728 (1) - 굳이 중간에 01:00:081 - 를 빠뜨릴 이유를 모르겠습니다. 그 정도로 길게 나는 소리가 있는 것도 아니고, 직전에 1/1 드럼들을 다 잡아주면서 오셨는데 말이죠. 00:59:728 (1) - 이것도 나름 모양을 갖춘것이라서 깨기 좀 그렇네요.
* 01:06:610 (4) - 앞에랑 같은 이유로 끊어줘도 괜찮을 노트입니다. 일단 보컬이 거기서 딱 끊기는 느낌이 나니까요. fix
* 01:07:669 - 여기는 반대로 빠져서 아쉬운 소리 01:06:787 (1) 과 대칭을 이룬 패턴으로 두고싶습니다.
* 01:08:199 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - 드럼을 잘 들어봅시다. 여기 드럼이 이렇게 평범하게 나는 구간인가요? 이런 식으로 나는 드럼 구간에는 그 나름의 특히 강한 드럼들이 있습니다. 01:08:199 - 01:08:905 - 01:09:434 - 01:09:610 - 01:09:787 - 01:10:316 - 등이 그것입니다. 태양님 노말을 보시면 이 소리들은 다 잡아줬다는 것을 알 수 있습니다. 여기는 하드이고 1/2 대부분을 메워주고 있으므로, 클릭되는 곳과 그렇지 않은 곳을 통한 강조가 더 필요합니다. 01:08:728 - 01:10:493 - 같은 곳은 새로운 보컬 시작점이니 곁들여서 잡아주는 것도 좋고요. http://puu.sh/mvglZ/e1ab8554a4.jpg 이렇게 한 번 해보세요. 01:08:199 (1,2,3,4,5) - 이 부분과 01:09:610 (1,2,3,4,5) - 이부분을 비슷한 패턴으로 둘려고 합니다.
* 01:15:257 (1) - 태양님 노말에도 썼지만 이 사이가 매우 허전합니다. 스피너 시작점은 어떤 소리에 대한 강조를 해주지 못합니다. 01:14:552 - 는 악기가 없어서 그렇다 치더라도, 01:15:257 - 에서 힛사가 나지 않는다는 것은 제가 보기엔 별로 좋지가 않습니다. 저라면 두 곳 다 메우겠지만, 태양님하고도 상의해서 한 번 맞춰보세요. 태양님과 상의해보고 모든난이도를 손보겠습니다.

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* 이거 큐리님 맵셋이랑 난이도 이름이 같은데 합의해서 서로 다르게 나는 게 낫지 않을까요? 제가먼저했기에 큐리님께 바꾸라고 해보겠습니다. 바꾸실려나..
* 00:36:435 (1,2) - 각자가 00:36:258 (4) - 와 이루는 거리가 같으면 더 단정해 보일 것 같습니다. 강조하기 위해 조금 더 벌린것입니다.
* 00:42:082 (2,3) - 예스! 하는 소리가 강한데 흐름은 평범하게 흘러가서 좀 아쉽네요. 00:41:023 (1,2,3) - 이부분과 통일감을 주기위해 복붙해서 만든겁니다. 지금 (2,3)을 강조를위해 벌리면 더 어색하게 흘러간다고 생각합니다.
* 00:59:552 (8,1) - 제일 강한 소리라 거리는 제일 커야 한다고 생각해요. 01:10:846 (8,1) - 도요. 00:59:199 (6) - 이 노트를 블랭킷하기 위하여 벌리지 못했던것 같습니다. 사실 제 매핑스타일이라고 하긴 좀 애매하지만 강한부분, 약한부분을 나눠서 거리를 주는 매핑보다는 모양내는것을 우선순위에 두는것이 제 스타일이라고 봅니다.
* 01:03:081 (2,3) - 불필요하게 많이 꺾이는 흐름이라고 생각합니다. 01:02:375 (9,1) - 여기에서 한 번 제대로 했으니 이쪽은 좀 더 평범하게 흘려보내는 게 좋을 거 같아요. 저는 나쁘지 않는 흐름이라고 생각합니다. 일단 두겠습니다.
* 01:00:257 - 사실상 거의 소리가 없는 부분인데 클릭을 시키셨네요. 여기에 노트가 안 들어가게끔 하는 방법을 생각해보셨으면 좋겠네요. 이부분도 모양을 내기위해서 매핑했다고 생각하시면 될것같아요.
* 01:05:287 - 01:08:110 - 3연타가 들어가기 딱 좋은 곳이 아닐까요? 01:08:110 부분에 3연타를 넣겠습니다.
* 01:12:081 (2,1) - 앞에서부터 흐름이 꺾이지 않고 이어져나가는 느낌이라, 거리가 좁아서 안티점프의 느낌이 났어요. 01:11:375 (2,1) - 처럼 흐름이 반대가 되게 하면 일관성 있게 같은 박자들을 표현해줄 수 있을 것 같아요. fix
* 01:13:140 (3) - 박자가 1/3이라는 어려운 리듬으로 바뀌는 곳이라 새로운 느낌을 위해 뉴콤하는 것도 좋아보여요. 앞에서 01:11:022 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 이렇게 하기도 했으니 한 번 더 끊는다는 느낌도 있고요. fix
* 01:15:257 (1) - Rose's Insane과 같습니다.

손닉님 말씀 듣고 모딩이 위축되어 버렸습니다... 암튼 굿럭

모딩해주셔서 감사합니다.

공부가 많이 됬습니다.

다음에 부르시면 바로 가겠습니다.

Sonnyc wrote:
Doyak wrote:
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* 계속 이어서, 00:05:552 (4) - 도 비슷하게, 그다지 중요하지 않은 비트이고 끊어주어도 괜찮습니다. 그런데 오히려 더 중요한 드럼이 있는 00:08:376 - 는 도리어 비워놓으셨군요. 이 부분에 대해 일관성을 만들어 봅시다. 저 1/2들은, 보컬이 있는 곳에는 노트를 배치하고 아닌 곳은 넣지 않는다, 어떤가요? // 00:02:729 (4) - 00:05:552 (4) - 에서 두 노트는 일관성을 보이고 있습니다. 본질적인 존재 이유가 문제시 된다면 어쩔 수 없지만, 매퍼는 나름의 균일성을 보이는 상황에서 00:03:435 - 00:06:258 - 의 차이에 주목해보시는 건 어떠셨을까요? 그 차이는 왜 존재하는지 생각해 보셨나요?
* 00:08:552 (1,2,3,4) - 드럼, 보컬 모두 일정하지 않게 나고 있는 박자에서, 너무 리듬과 패턴을 평범하게 한 느낌입니다. 가령 00:09:258 (3) - 을 보면, 00:09:258 - 에는 보컬이 없고 00:09:435 - 는 새 보컬이 시작되어 강한 느낌을 주고 있습니다. 따라서 http://puu.sh/mvfdc/e423d3c5dc.jpg 이와 같이 써볼 수 있을 겁니다. // 매퍼가 60도 회전이라는 특수한 패턴을 사용하는 상황에서 패턴을 강조하기 위한 목적으로 00:08:376 을 비워보셨다는 생각을 해 보셨나요? 현재의 패턴을 뒤엎을 정도로 기존의 표현이 미미했다고 보시나요?
* 00:32:552 (1) - 이 노트를 보면 이건 100% 보컬에 초점을 둔 부분이네요. 00:32:905 - 이렇게나 강한 박자를 그냥 지나쳤으니까요. 그런데 지금까지 해오신 걸 보면 흰 틱의 드럼을 지금까지 일절 무시하지 않으시다가, 여기서 갑자기 중요한 나사가 툭 빠져버렸다는 느낌을 지울 수 없습니다. 더군다나 바로 뒤에 훨씬 약한 비트이고 보컬이 없는 00:34:670 - 는 무려 클릭으로 잡아주셨죠. 다시 말해서, 리듬의 세분화가 필요한 부분입니다. // 기존의 슬라 아트를 뒤엎어서라도 리듬의 세분화가 필요하다고 생각하시나요?
* 00:36:435 - 그런데 또 이런 드럼 소리는 빼놓으셔서, 무엇을 따라가고 계신 건지가 매우 불분명합니다. // 보컬을 충실히 따라갔다는 생각을 해 보셨나요?
* 00:44:376 (2,3) - 이건 오히려 반대로 됐습니다. 00:44:552 - 00:44:729 - 모두에 비슷한 톤으로 소리가 있다면 이럴 땐 강한 드럼이 함께해주는 00:44:552 - 가 클릭이 되는 것이 더 좋은 강조 효과를 줍니다. 00:45:435 (2) - 도 마찬가지입니다. 여기는 슬라 끝의 보컬이 크기까지 하네요. // 00:44:376 (2) 의 박자가 부드러운 보컬을 표현하기 위해 사용되었다고 생각해 보셨나요? 00:45:435 (2) 도 마찬가지로요?
* 00:59:728 (1) - 굳이 중간에 01:00:081 - 를 빠뜨릴 이유를 모르겠습니다. 그 정도로 길게 나는 소리가 있는 것도 아니고, 직전에 1/1 드럼들을 다 잡아주면서 오셨는데 말이죠. // 여기서도, 기존의 슬라 아트를 뒤엎어서라도 리듬의 세분화가 필요하다고 생각하시나요?
매퍼의 로직을 파악하고 한 모딩이 아니라 너무 본인의 로직으로만 한 모딩은 아닌가하는 생각이 들었어요.
지나가다가 그냥 포스팅해봅니다. 도약님께 거는 기대가 커요.

저보다 먼저 모딩 확인해주시고 걸러주셔서 놀랐습니다.
손닉님께도 감사드립니다.

Rose Pacifica

238 posts

Joined February 2012

Rose Pacifica 2016-01-14T16:01:44+00:00

Sangzin wrote:
[Roze's Insane]

AIMOD확인해주세요. 프리뷰포인트 다르다고 나옵니다. 다운님................
00:03:964 (4,5,1) - 모양이 이상하네요. 간격 맞춰주는 게 더 좋다고 생각합니다. 모양은수정하는대 더 지적들어오면 간격맞추도록할개요
00:23:288 (3) - 간격 좀 더 줄여주세요. 앞에거랑은 멀어서 리딩이 좀 헷갈리네요. 그냥 연타를 지웟습니다 인세인이고 많이어려우면 좋지도않으니까
01:01:140 (5) - 앞에 뉴콤 넣을거면 다운비트부터인 여기서부터 뉴콤스팸을 하는게 좋다고 생각하네요. Fix
01:08:905 (3) - 흠...여기서 3/4로 슬라이더를 만든 이유를 모르겠네요. 뒤에처럼 보컬이 길게 뻗어가는 느낌이 있는 것도 아닌데 1/2로 만드는 게 더 좋다고 생각이 드네요.
01:08:199 - 여기서부턴 드럼 01:10:493 (7,8,9) - 드럼&보컬 01:11:022 -보컬 입니다
01:08:199 - ~ 01:10:493를 1/2로만드려면 박자수정도 해야 하고 배치도 바꿔야하기 때문애 더 놔두겠습니다.
~~00:05:376 (4,5,6,7,1) - 이부분 오버매핑인줄 알고 지적하려고 했는데 아니였....~~잘찍으시네요 굳
잘찍고 못찍고 중요한개아니라 Roze가아니라 Rose입니다....ㅠㅠㅠ

Doyak wrote:
[Rose's Insane]
* 00:15:964 (2,3) - 00:17:288 (2,3) - 00:23:023 (2,3) - 개인적으로, 이것들이 1/4 간격이라는 걸 알아채기가 매우 어려웠습니다. 저것과 비슷하거나 심지어는 더 작은 간격들도 1/2 간격인게 많은데 굉장히 넓은 1/4들을 봐도 이게 1/2인지 1/4인지를 단번에 보기가 어렵네요. 저렇게 서클에 슬라가 바로 붙어있는 패턴 전체까지를 보아야 아차 1/4이구나 하고 달려가는데 이미 때는 늦은 뒤입니다. 간격을 조금 좁혔으면 좋겠네요.
어떻게 좁혀야할지몰라서 삭제했습니다...일단 인세인이고 저렇개 연타가 많이들어가면 쉽지도않을태니
* 01:02:375 (2,1) - 여기는 조금 더 벌렸으면 하는 바람입니다. 키아이에 들어가는 음이기도 하고 특별히 큰 소리가 있으니까요. FIX
* 01:15:257 (1) - 노말 하드 레프트인센 까지의 지적과 같습니다. 스피너 시작이 강조점을 만들지 못하니, 노트를 하나 넣고 그 뒤부터 스피너를 시작하는 것이 낫다고 생각합니다. FIX

보니까 레프트님껏도 저랑 똑같이 프리퓨타임 다른듯

크게 문제되는 건 없어보이네요. GL!
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Sonnyc

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Sonnyc 2016-01-14T17:31:08+00:00

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00:08:376 (4,1) - 01:06:787 (1,2) - 간격

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Sonnyc wrote:
[hard]
00:08:376 (4,1) - 01:06:787 (1,2) - 간격 00:08:376 (4,1)는 아무리해도 간격이 안맞춰져서 삭제했고, 01:06:787 (1,2) 는 고쳤습니다.

다시한번 봐주셔서 감사합니다 XD

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Sangzin wrote:
아니 요새 다들 똑같은 노래 두번 모딩하게 하는군요? ㅋㅋ

[레프트4인세인]

00:01:494 (1,2,3) - 여기 중간의 1/2도 채우는 게 좋을 거 같네요. 앞부분이랑 뒷부분이랑 그닥 차이가 없어서 이부분에서 이상함을 느끼네요.픽스
00:11:375 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 뉴콤따라 볼륨크기 조절하면 좋을 듯 하네요다운님께 부탁드렸습니다
00:25:493 - 레프트님 난이도에서만 여기에 브레이크타임이 있네요. 다른 난이도처럼 채우는 게 좋다고 생각합니다.이부분은 매꿀 필요가 없다 생각해서...
00:48:435 (3) - 여기에 1/3음은 없습니닷. 따른 패턴으로 바꿔주세욧 fix
00:57:963 (4) - 그냥 1/2로 하는게 어울린다고 생각이 들긴 하네요.fix
00:59:552 (2) - 어느정도 헷갈릴 위험이 있어서 그냥 앞에서 쓰던 간격처럼 해서 1/2로 옮기면 좋을 거 같네요.fix
~~아 왜 힛사볼륨보고 움찔했지~~
크게 문제되는 건 없어보이네요. GL!
메에에에에에에엥

감사 a lot!

Doyak wrote:
티켓 모딩입니다.

[Left's Insane]
* 00:01:494 (1,2) - 도입부라고는 하지만 너무 단순하다는 느낌을 받았습니다. 그 이후로 조금도 쉴 틈 없이 1/2을 꽉 메워주고 있는 것에 비해서 허전하게 느껴집니다. fix
* 00:14:199 - 연타 구간 전체에 대해: 드럼이 심히 반복적이어서 여러모로 변형을 주고 싶으셨던 것 같습니다. 그런데 지금은 너무 일관성 없이 연타가 여기 나타났다가 저기 나타났다가 하는 것 같아요. 굳이 박자 자체를 다르게 쓰지 않더라도 같은 리듬을 유지하면서 노트 사용을 달리할 수도 있습니다. 1/4 킥슬라의 활용, 왕복 슬라 등을 섞어가면서 비슷한 리듬을 유지한 상태로 변형을 시켜가는 것이 저 부분을 매핑하는 데에 제일 좋은 방법이라고 생각합니다. 특히 마지막에 00:24:082 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 는 갑자기 많던 연타들이 다 사라져서 허전하게 느껴졌어요. 현악기 소리에 맞추신 건 알겠는데 그 소리는 이전에도 계속 나고 있었고 드럼이 여기에서 사라진 것도 아니고, 또 00:25:317 (4,1) - 이 사이에도 현악기 소리는 더 크게 계속 나는데 여기는 비워놓으신 것도 일관성이 없다고 생각합니다.이부분에 대해서는 그정도로 심하게 일관성을 가질 필요가 없다고 생각해서 이렇게 넣었습니다.
* 00:48:435 (3) - 올바른 스냅이 아닙니다. 힛사 없이 느리게 들어보시면 알겠지만, 여기의 박자는 1/3이 아니라 00:48:435 - 00:48:611 - 00:48:699 - 이렇게 1/4 계열입니다. fix
* 00:57:963 (4) - 잘 이해가 되지 않네요. 00:56:552 (1) - 랑 똑같이 맞추신 것 같은데 그게 표현한 소리가 이쪽에 있지는 않으니까요. fix
* 00:59:375 (1,2,1,2) - 앞의 00:59:375 (1,2) - 를 보면 분명 보컬 강조용 점프입니다. 그런데 01:00:610 - 에 있는 보컬은 그대로 씹혀서, 앞에서 갑자기 보컬을 왜 강조해줬는가 싶게 만들었습니다. 전반적으로 드럼 따라가고 계시니 차라리 아예 그쪽의 강한 보컬도 무시하시고 드럼만 철저하게 표현하시는 편이 나으리라 생각합니다.상진님 모딩에 제안된 대로 수정했습니다.
* 01:11:199 (2,3,4,5,6) - 여기도 지금 무엇을 따라가려 하는 것인지 약간 혼란스럽게 합니다. 일단 01:11:375 (3) - 가 길게 늘어진 건 보컬의 느낌도 같이 살린 거라고 보면, 좋습니다. 그런데 01:12:081 (6) - 는 맞지가 않습니다. 01:12:257 - 에 보컬이 하나 떡하니 있는데도 여기가 무시되고 아무런 소리가 없는 01:12:346 - 까지 슬라이더를 늘려 쓰셔서 뭔가 바뀌어버린 느낌입니다. 이부분은 앞에서 드럼쪽을 따라간 이후에 계속 드럼소리를 찍고 있었습니다....지금의 저라면 절대 이렇게 안했겠지만 이제와서 무리해 바꾸긴 힘들 것 같네요
* 01:15:257 (1) - 위에 노말, 하드와 같은 지적입니다. 그쪽을 참고해주세요. 다른 난이도들과 봐서 고려해볼게요
잠깐 저녁 좀 먹고 오겠... 레프트님 인센 아직 적을 말이 더 있...었는데 손닉님 글을 보니 이건 말하지 않는 게 나을 것 같네요.
손닉님 말씀 듣고 모딩이 위축되어 버렸습니다... 암튼 굿럭

감사합니다~

Abe Nana

1,148 posts

Joined March 2011

Abe Nana 2016-01-15T08:57:38+00:00

모딩에 모딩을 하는 참신한 광경 잘보고갑니다

Taeyang

Elite Mapper

1,209 posts

Joined June 2013

Taeyang 2016-01-15T11:24:12+00:00

Doyak wrote:
[Taeyang's Normal]
* 00:10:670 (2,3,4,5,6) - 너무 열차를 길게 안 하시려고 한 것 같은데, 드럼 소리가 점점 커지고 있는 곳이어서 00:11:905 - 가 빈 게 꽤 허전하게 느껴지네요. 소리는 똑같이 없더라도 아무것도 없게 하는 것보단 http://puu.sh/mvepj/f02492984f.jpg 이런 식으로 슬라 위라도 지나게 하면 좀 낫지 않을까요? 강한 소리인 00:11:729 - 를 클릭하게 만들어줄 수도 있고요.
거길 잡기엔 너무 버리는게 많습니다.
우선 제 스타일 적으로 01:09:257 (3,4,5) - 01:06:787 (3,4,5) - 00:39:611 (4,5,6) - 슬라-리버스-서클이런식으로 잘안박는편이라
박자감 맞추기 쉽게 항상 리버스 양으로는 서클로만 둘려고합니다(노래나 비트가 안따라줄땐 예외)
모양도 잡기힘들고 00:12:611 (6) - 특히 여길 클릭으로 끝내 00:14:199 (1) - 스택을 주고싶기에 그냥 놔두겠습니다.

* 00:48:788 (4) - 요상한 슬라이더라고 생각합니다. 왜냐하면 저기 드럼은 1/3이기 때문에 슬라이더의 끝점인 00:49:317 - 를 지나지 않아요. 그냥 00:49:141 - 에서 끝나게 하는 게 더 낫고 안전할 거라 생각합니다. 보컬이 거기서 끝난다고 따라가신 거라고 해도, 보컬이 시작하는 점이라면 몰라도 끝나는 점은 악기 소리에 비해 명료하지 않기 때문에 별로 좋은 선택은 아니라고 생각합니다. 01:13:140 (1) - 랑도 일관성이 안 맞네요.
수정완료~
* 01:15:257 (1) - 스피너 시작점은 전혀 강조점이 되지 못한다는 것 알고 계실 겁니다. 게다가 그 전에 한참 쉬기까지 해서 많이 공허한 느낌이에요. 이왕이면 01:15:257 - 뿐만 아니라 01:14:552 - 소리도 같이 살려서 슬라이더로 길게 뽑는다던가, 하는 것도 좋을 거 같습니다.
이건 맵셋 전체적인 일관성을 살린건데 다운님이랑 상의하겠~!

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그나저나 위에 손닉님이랑 도얔님 두분다 대단하신듯 ㅋㅋㅋ

Taeyang

Elite Mapper

1,209 posts

Joined June 2013

Taeyang 2016-01-15T13:15:51+00:00

븐 리자 불러뒀습니다.

Taeyang

Elite Mapper

1,209 posts

Joined June 2013

Taeyang 2016-01-16T03:55:25+00:00

Doyak wrote:
린 듯한 느낌이 들어서, 모양을 조금 다듬으셨으면 좋겠네요.

[Taeyang's Normal]
* 01:15:257 (1) - 스피너 시작점은 전혀 강조점이 되지 못한다는 것 알고 계실 겁니다. 게다가 그 전에 한참 쉬기까지 해서 많이 공허한 느낌이에요. 이왕이면 01:15:257 - 뿐만 아니라 01:14:552 - 소리도 같이 살려서 슬라이더로 길게 뽑는다던가, 하는 것도 좋을 거 같습니다.

미처 말못한게 ㅁㄴㅇㄹ
모딩 전체적으로 공통되거나 비슷한내용은 줴네랄에다가 ㅇㅅㅇ

Koiyuki

2,531 posts

Joined March 2013

Koiyuki 2016-01-16T08:24:53+00:00

~Recheck~

General

drum-whistle.wav and drum-slidertick2.wav have about 4ms' delay, use this instead: http://puu.sh/mxBjz/ce3ff4c432.wav

Easy

00:36:435 (2) - why not end at 00:36:611 - , the rhythm should be end at there

Down

Featured Artist

643 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

Down 2016-01-16T08:29:43+00:00

Minakami Yuki wrote:
~Recheck~

General
drum-whistle.wav and drum-slidertick2.wav have about 4ms' delay, use this instead: http://puu.sh/mxBjz/ce3ff4c432.wav
Easy
00:36:435 (2) - why not end at 00:36:611 - , the rhythm should be end at there

All fix!
Thanks for recheck

Koiyuki

2,531 posts

Joined March 2013

Koiyuki 2016-01-16T08:45:26+00:00

Bubbled!

Doyak

osu! Alumni

2,621 posts

Joined November 2012

Doyak 2016-01-16T08:57:53+00:00

Taeyang wrote:
Doyak wrote:
린 듯한 느낌이 들어서, 모양을 조금 다듬으셨으면 좋겠네요.

[Taeyang's Normal]
* 01:15:257 (1) - 스피너 시작점은 전혀 강조점이 되지 못한다는 것 알고 계실 겁니다. 게다가 그 전에 한참 쉬기까지 해서 많이 공허한 느낌이에요. 이왕이면 01:15:257 - 뿐만 아니라 01:14:552 - 소리도 같이 살려서 슬라이더로 길게 뽑는다던가, 하는 것도 좋을 거 같습니다.
미처 말못한게 ㅁㄴㅇㄹ
모딩 전체적으로 공통되거나 비슷한내용은 줴네랄에다가 ㅇㅅㅇ

그렇게 했어야 되는데 이지는 노트 넣고 바로 스피너 시작하는 거 싫어하는 사람들 있어서 안 하고 넘어갔는데, 노말부터 지적하면서 가다보니 한 난이도 빼고 다 그렇길래 아차 했는데 이제 와서 지우기 좀 그랬...

Rose Pacifica

238 posts

Joined February 2012

Rose Pacifica 2016-01-16T12:20:11+00:00

Fix

osu file format v14

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