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Hollow Wings
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2015年12月26日 at 2:00:39

Artist: Dew
Title: Ajisai
Tags: 花図鑑 Hana Zukan 清水悠 しみず ゆう 大西春奈 おおにし はるな Oonishi Haruna White Rose DreaM117er m1223961117
BPM: 83
Filesize: 10266kb
Play Time: 06:00
Difficulties Available:
  1. Liar (2.12 stars, 599 notes)
Download: Dew - Ajisai
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Dew 花図鑑 紫陽花

bg by me

Liar collabed with DreaM117er

ajisai saying: betrayed...
DreaM117er
Deep into the song...Ajisai...
KaedekaShizuru
[General]
建议给combo color加一个浅蓝紫色 我很喜欢紫阳花的这个花色

顺便不懂diff name Liar是啥意思 我推荐Hydrangea
其实AR可以到6

[Liar]
00:01:697 (4) - 其实我并不推荐像这样的slider尾上还下相对这么重的音效 del whistle 下同略
01:03:866 (1) - 建议延长到01:04:950
03:51:215 (1) - del N-whistle
03:56:998 (1) - ↑
04:02:781 (1) - ↑
总的来说我觉得whistle密度太高了 有一半推荐用这个音效代替http://puu.sh/m1hqy/b241f070c0.wav
摸个毛啊这样的曲子 直接飞飞飞
333 posts~!
Topic Starter
Hollow Wings

KaedekaShizuru wrote:

[General]
建议给combo color加一个浅蓝紫色 我很喜欢紫阳花的这个花色 四暗刻。。。好吧。

顺便不懂diff name Liar是啥意思 我推荐Hydrangea 花语。
其实AR可以到6 好。

[Liar]
00:01:697 (4) - 其实我并不推荐像这样的slider尾上还下相对这么重的音效 del whistle 下同略 换了sample后感觉就还好了。
01:03:866 (1) - 建议延长到01:04:950
03:51:215 (1) - del N-whistle
03:56:998 (1) - ↑
04:02:781 (1) - ↑
总的来说我觉得whistle密度太高了 有一半推荐用这个音效代替http://puu.sh/m1hqy/b241f070c0.wav 先改了。
摸个毛啊这样的曲子 直接飞飞飞 233...
333 posts~!
thanks for modding!
Lasse
hey, m4m here
00:12:540 (3,4) - probably ctrl-g the rhythm so it will be 3/4 => 1/2 slider, because sudden shift to vocals and suddenly clicking the blue tick is a bit confusing for the target players
00:35:673 (3,4) - ^same
also ignoring that really strong piano hit on the white tick feels so wrong.
I know you want to follow the vocals, but swithcing them should still folow them fine

00:20:492 (1,2,3) - you can rotate this a bit or move so you can make 00:22:661 (4) - the same angle as 1-2-3 like http://i.imgur.com/CrDeRUs.jpg
00:25:914 (4,1) - maybe stack this too?

00:46:516 (1,2) - and 00:49:408 (1,2) - not same spacing? They are the same sounds and all, you even use the same sliders

01:04:950 - and 01:07:841 - those gaps feel so weid, there is even the piano hit here, so not having anything on this is confusing. could add a circle or make 1 two 1/2 sliders. Also you mapped the same sound all the time before...
same for the other times this happens. I understand you want to make the rhythm more interesten but that could also be done with slidersor something I think

01:16:516 (2,3,4) - 1/2 stack stacked on 1/1 stack and with same combo. Might be a bit too confusing for people that play 2* maps :/

01:58:805 (1,2,3) - maybe overlap like this? would look nicer imo http://i.imgur.com/NobHzax.jpg

02:03:865 (4) - 1/4 really necessary?

02:14:709 (3) - maybe ctrl-g? Think same spacing on all 3 would make more sense here

03:36:757 (1) - think it would look better if you changed the last part of it a bit like http://i.imgur.com/Qlm4rbL.jpg
03:43:625 (3) - curve the same as 2 would look nicer

03:44:347 (1,2) - bit higher spacing would make change from 1/4 to 1/2 better to read

04:39:287 (5) - 1/4 repeat slider would feel better, idk why the 1/4 are suddenly ignored? http://i.imgur.com/GwPx3xO.jpg or maybe http://i.imgur.com/5Yz7wfz.jpg ?

04:52:299 (1) - I understand why you used this before because there were vocals, but ignoring all those 1/2 piano etc here doesnt really fit

05:49:381 (1,2) - think 1/1 slider might be better since sudden change to 1/1 together with changed bpm is hard to time hits properly
Nao Tomori
Hi.

Don't know if you put Lasse's mod on --
General stuff
SPOILER
CS 5 maybe too small for new players - maybe CS 4?
DS off, but for 2 stars maybe it should be on?
Liar
SPOILER
00:08:926 (1) - maybe flip this, for blanket? Looks nicer than overlap.

00:37:119 (5,6) - move this out from under (4) , maybe hard to read (for new player)

01:00:974 (1) - shouldn't this slider be symmetrical (same on both sides)

02:00:251 (3,4) - think 4 should be moved left, so it makes a curve with 3.

02:03:865 (4) - this does not sound like a triple, maybe remove repeat

02:07:480 (1) - think this looks bad, maybe flip to avoid overlap with 02:07:119 (4)

02:42:179 (1) - maybe make this symmetrical?

02:46:516 (3) - flip this, to blanket (4) , will look better

03:27:721 (4) - maybe change to parallel with (3) ?

03:48:323 (1) - this slider looks kind of ugly i think

04:14:709 (1) - maybe flip

04:39:287 (5,6) - i think there should be slider between these notes here, since violin continues to play

05:19:046 (1,2,3,4,5) - should these be the same angle jumps? i think so

05:25:552 (3,4,5) - for this sound earlier, you put circles instead of sliders. maybe they should be the same.

05:37:841 (4,5,6,7) - i think the violin is very quiet here, can be confusing so maybe follow vocals instead

sorry if low-quality mod, map is very nice
Streliteela
我来提两个地方,这也不算是摸了所以要是没什么用就不用给kds了

  1. 01:38:564 (1) - 这个地方小m大概是想做个停顿处理,但我觉得这里不太适合。因为01:35:673 (1) - 这里你选择用了一个长滑条来跟vocal,而这里相同的长声vocal我觉得也用一个这样的长滑条来呼应一下比较好些;而且后面01:41:456 (1,1) - 这里你也是做了类似的呼应处理的
  2. 03:47:239 (3,1) - 没叠好,微调一下
顺便好想吐槽一下啊,这么干净的歌就别用这么多花里胡哨的滑条了呗,看小m用的多好~(手动斜眼
祝早日rank吧,两个人的组合有这样不可思议的效果,挺出乎意料的2333 期待!
Lily Bread
mod for ticket
还是算了,摸不到东西

04:39:649 - 这附近为什么空出来?
04:46:155 (4,5) - 可以考虑换成1/4滑条
05:37:841 (4,5,6,7) - 一样,因为是提琴所以滑条感觉更合适

..感觉没什么摸的,挺好
射个星
Lami
  1. idk why many same green line here.
    even if, it don't happen problem.
  2. 00:36:215 (4,5) - bit weird overlap by stacking, no problem for rank, but you can improve it i guess.
  3. 01:00:974 (1) - if move to x352,y320. it make more good blanket effect with 01:00:613 (4) -
  4. also, it become to regular DS here.
    if do that, need to adjust placement 01:02:058 (2) -
  5. 02:17:601 (3,4,5) - improvable regular DS
  6. 03:43:625 (3) - use same curvature with previous slider,
    it might be look like weird different curve slider, in same sound,
  7. 03:45:793 - you might be follow lyric in this part.
    but in my opinion, even though, you change this rhythm 03:45:070 (3,1) - ,
    kial should be start in here. like previous kiai time.
  8. 04:05:673 (7) - make 1/1 slider? according to 04:02:781 (1) -
  9. 05:17:962 (5) - quitely downbeat slider ;w;
clean map :)
XiaofengTiger
新人水个摸
  1. 00:02:058 - 感觉这里加个点好,鉴于00:01:697 (4) - 两个音效都是没有回音的whistle
  2. 00:17:600 (1,2) - 因为后面那个3跟1的距离刚好是ds的距离所以我的话会漏了2。而且太顺手了,并且接下来都是单点
  3. 00:40:011 (4) - 同样挡在后面感觉会漏掉
  4. 03:48:323 (1,2) - 同第一个,堆叠+后面一串移动单点+不变颜色很容易漏的感觉
  5. 04:30:251 (2,3) - 没有包好
给个crystal耀星,闪了
DreaM117er
靜流

KaedekaShizuru wrote:

[General]
建议给combo color加一个浅蓝紫色 我很喜欢紫阳花的这个花色

顺便不懂diff name Liar是啥意思 我推荐Hydrangea
其实AR可以到6

[Liar]
00:01:697 (4) - 其实我并不推荐像这样的slider尾上还下相对这么重的音效 del whistle 下同略
01:03:866 (1) - 建议延长到01:04:950 被抓了2次呢,改分段跟鋼琴
03:51:215 (1) - del N-whistle
03:56:998 (1) - ↑
04:02:781 (1) - ↑
总的来说我觉得whistle密度太高了 有一半推荐用这个音效代替http://puu.sh/m1hqy/b241f070c0.wav
摸个毛啊这样的曲子 直接飞飞飞
333 posts~!
Lasse

Lasse wrote:

hey, m4m here
01:04:950 - and 01:07:841 - those gaps feel so weid, there is even the piano hit here, so not having anything on this is confusing. could add a circle or make 1 two 1/2 sliders. Also you mapped the same sound all the time before...
same for the other times this happens. I understand you want to make the rhythm more interesten but that could also be done with slidersor something I think >Fix two 1/2 sliders to follow piano lol But no fix 01:06:757 (1) - , here is vocal stop and then start vocal 01:08:203 - again, I think use this space is fine

01:16:516 (2,3,4) - 1/2 stack stacked on 1/1 stack and with same combo. Might be a bit too confusing for people that play 2* maps :/ >Fix

03:36:757 (1) - think it would look better if you changed the last part of it a bit like http://i.imgur.com/Qlm4rbL.jpg
03:43:625 (3) - curve the same as 2 would look nicer

03:44:347 (1,2) - bit higher spacing would make change from 1/4 to 1/2 better to read

04:39:287 (5) - 1/4 repeat slider would feel better, idk why the 1/4 are suddenly ignored? http://i.imgur.com/GwPx3xO.jpg or maybe http://i.imgur.com/5Yz7wfz.jpg ? >oh, this part not really focus on piano, I think mainly follow violin more better to fix the song

04:52:299 (1) - I understand why you used this before because there were vocals, but ignoring all those 1/2 piano etc here doesnt really fit >fix more better now

05:49:381 (1,2) - think 1/1 slider might be better since sudden change to 1/1 together with changed bpm is hard to time hits properly >right lol

-Nao Tomori- wrote:

Hi.

Don't know if you put Lasse's mod on --
General stuff
SPOILER
CS 5 maybe too small for new players - maybe CS 4?
DS off, but for 2 stars maybe it should be on?
Liar
SPOILER
00:08:926 (1) - maybe flip this, for blanket? Looks nicer than overlap. >I think it's fine :?

00:37:119 (5,6) - move this out from under (4) , maybe hard to read (for new player)

01:00:974 (1) - shouldn't this slider be symmetrical (same on both sides) >I don't wan't to fix this slider, coz this is HW put in, I wan't to keep it lol

02:42:179 (1) - maybe make this symmetrical? >Fix

02:46:516 (3) - flip this, to blanket (4) , will look better >It's fine to me :)

04:14:709 (1) - maybe flip >Keep it lol

04:39:287 (5,6) - i think there should be slider between these notes here, since violin continues to play >fix lol

sorry if low-quality mod, map is very nice
S醬

Streliteela wrote:

我来提两个地方,这也不算是摸了所以要是没什么用就不用给kds了

  1. 01:38:564 (1) - 这个地方小m大概是想做个停顿处理,但我觉得这里不太适合。因为01:35:673 (1) - 这里你选择用了一个长滑条来跟vocal,而这里相同的长声vocal我觉得也用一个这样的长滑条来呼应一下比较好些;而且后面01:41:456 (1,1) - 这里你也是做了类似的呼应处理的 >改了
  2. 03:47:239 (3,1) - 没叠好,微调一下
顺便好想吐槽一下啊,这么干净的歌就别用这么多花里胡哨的滑条了呗,看小m用的多好~(手动斜眼
祝早日rank吧,两个人的组合有这样不可思议的效果,挺出乎意料的2333 期待!
麵包莉莉(?)

Lily Bread wrote:

mod for ticket
还是算了,摸不到东西

04:39:649 - 这附近为什么空出来?>已經改了
04:46:155 (4,5) - 可以考虑换成1/4滑条 >我是故意這樣放的,讓玩家們的手指活動一下
05:37:841 (4,5,6,7) - 一样,因为是提琴所以滑条感觉更合适

..感觉没什么摸的,挺好
射个星
Lami

Lami wrote:

  1. idk why many same green line here.
    even if, it don't happen problem.
  2. 00:36:215 (4,5) - bit weird overlap by stacking, no problem for rank, but you can improve it i guess.
  3. 01:00:974 (1) - if move to x352,y320. it make more good blanket effect with 01:00:613 (4) - >Fix
  4. also, it become to regular DS here.
    if do that, need to adjust placement 01:02:058 (2) -
  5. 02:17:601 (3,4,5) - improvable regular DS
  6. 03:43:625 (3) - use same curvature with previous slider,
    it might be look like weird different curve slider, in same sound,
  7. 03:45:793 - you might be follow lyric in this part.
    but in my opinion, even though, you change this rhythm 03:45:070 (3,1) - ,
    kial should be start in here. like previous kiai time.
  8. 04:05:673 (7) - make 1/1 slider? according to 04:02:781 (1) -
  9. 05:17:962 (5) - quitely downbeat slider ;w;
clean map :)
XiaofengTiger

XiaofengTiger wrote:

新人水个摸
  1. 00:02:058 - 感觉这里加个点好,鉴于00:01:697 (4) - 两个音效都是没有回音的whistle >我是故意的,那個音反而做出來會很怪,這是為了要體驗音樂而放置的,有這樣的作用在
  2. 00:17:600 (1,2) - 因为后面那个3跟1的距离刚好是ds的距离所以我的话会漏了2。而且太顺手了,并且接下来都是单点
  3. 00:40:011 (4) - 同样挡在后面感觉会漏掉
  4. 03:48:323 (1,2) - 同第一个,堆叠+后面一串移动单点+不变颜色很容易漏的感觉
  5. 04:30:251 (2,3) - 没有包好 >爺爺啊 :?
给个crystal耀星,闪了

Thanks all modders :)
Topic Starter
Hollow Wings

Lasse wrote:

hey, m4m here
00:12:540 (3,4) - probably ctrl-g the rhythm so it will be 3/4 => 1/2 slider, because sudden shift to vocals and suddenly clicking the blue tick is a bit confusing for the target players hmm here i just follow vocal track, i insist that.
00:35:673 (3,4) - ^same ^
also ignoring that really strong piano hit on the white tick feels so wrong.
I know you want to follow the vocals, but swithcing them should still folow them fine

00:20:492 (1,2,3) - you can rotate this a bit or move so you can make 00:22:661 (4) - the same angle as 1-2-3 like http://i.imgur.com/CrDeRUs.jpg lol current status is already fine enough imo...
00:25:914 (4,1) - maybe stack this too? nope for it's another downbeat.

00:46:516 (1,2) - and 00:49:408 (1,2) - not same spacing? They are the same sounds and all, you even use the same sliders i think they are in same style indeed already.

01:04:950 - and 01:07:841 - those gaps feel so weid, there is even the piano hit here, so not having anything on this is confusing. could add a circle or make 1 two 1/2 sliders. Also you mapped the same sound all the time before...
same for the other times this happens. I understand you want to make the rhythm more interesten but that could also be done with slidersor something I think

01:16:516 (2,3,4) - 1/2 stack stacked on 1/1 stack and with same combo. Might be a bit too confusing for people that play 2* maps :/

01:58:805 (1,2,3) - maybe overlap like this? would look nicer imo http://i.imgur.com/NobHzax.jpg lol that's not so serious to me.

02:03:865 (4) - 1/4 really necessary? yep.

02:14:709 (3) - maybe ctrl-g? Think same spacing on all 3 would make more sense here nope for i did that to express the piano beat's pitch shifting in the original track.

03:36:757 (1) - think it would look better if you changed the last part of it a bit like http://i.imgur.com/Qlm4rbL.jpg haha i love my version more.
03:43:625 (3) - curve the same as 2 would look nicer hmm nope.

03:44:347 (1,2) - bit higher spacing would make change from 1/4 to 1/2 better to read it's true, but i think the current ones are good enough to distinguish them.

04:39:287 (5) - 1/4 repeat slider would feel better, idk why the 1/4 are suddenly ignored? http://i.imgur.com/GwPx3xO.jpg or maybe http://i.imgur.com/5Yz7wfz.jpg ?

04:52:299 (1) - I understand why you used this before because there were vocals, but ignoring all those 1/2 piano etc here doesnt really fit

05:49:381 (1,2) - think 1/1 slider might be better since sudden change to 1/1 together with changed bpm is hard to time hits properly

-Nao Tomori- wrote:

Hi.

Don't know if you put Lasse's mod on --
General stuff
SPOILER
CS 5 maybe too small for new players - maybe CS 4?
DS off, but for 2 stars maybe it should be on? lol, i never expect this is a normal level map www.
Liar
SPOILER
00:08:926 (1) - maybe flip this, for blanket? Looks nicer than overlap.

00:37:119 (5,6) - move this out from under (4) , maybe hard to read (for new player) hmm ok.

01:00:974 (1) - shouldn't this slider be symmetrical (same on both sides)

02:00:251 (3,4) - think 4 should be moved left, so it makes a curve with 3. it's ok to continue flow like that.

02:03:865 (4) - this does not sound like a triple, maybe remove repeat ahh... alright...

02:07:480 (1) - think this looks bad, maybe flip to avoid overlap with 02:07:119 (4) i think overlap like this is pretty nice.

02:42:179 (1) - maybe make this symmetrical?

02:46:516 (3) - flip this, to blanket (4) , will look better

03:27:721 (4) - maybe change to parallel with (3) ? hmm nope.

03:48:323 (1) - this slider looks kind of ugly i think changed the shape a bit.

04:14:709 (1) - maybe flip

04:39:287 (5,6) - i think there should be slider between these notes here, since violin continues to play

05:19:046 (1,2,3,4,5) - should these be the same angle jumps? i think so actually not, see 05:19:408 (2,3,4,5,6) - .

05:25:552 (3,4,5) - for this sound earlier, you put circles instead of sliders. maybe they should be the same. they can be not the same for the are in different place in the song imo.

05:37:841 (4,5,6,7) - i think the violin is very quiet here, can be confusing so maybe follow vocals instead hmm, changed them into two 1/4 sliders, i think that's better.

sorry if low-quality mod, map is very nice

Streliteela wrote:

我来提两个地方,这也不算是摸了所以要是没什么用就不用给kds了

  1. 01:38:564 (1) - 这个地方小m大概是想做个停顿处理,但我觉得这里不太适合。因为01:35:673 (1) - 这里你选择用了一个长滑条来跟vocal,而这里相同的长声vocal我觉得也用一个这样的长滑条来呼应一下比较好些;而且后面01:41:456 (1,1) - 这里你也是做了类似的呼应处理的
  2. 03:47:239 (3,1) - 没叠好,微调一下 fixed.
顺便好想吐槽一下啊,这么干净的歌就别用这么多花里胡哨的滑条了呗,看小m用的多好~(手动斜眼
祝早日rank吧,两个人的组合有这样不可思议的效果,挺出乎意料的2333 期待!感觉有微微的醋意,一定是我的错觉(

Lily Bread wrote:

mod for ticket
还是算了,摸不到东西

04:39:649 - 这附近为什么空出来?
04:46:155 (4,5) - 可以考虑换成1/4滑条
05:37:841 (4,5,6,7) - 一样,因为是提琴所以滑条感觉更合适 已经改了。

..感觉没什么摸的,挺好
射个星

Lami wrote:

  1. idk why many same green line here.
    even if, it don't happen problem. lol omg fixed dat issue by changing volume sets in every section.
  2. 00:36:215 (4,5) - bit weird overlap by stacking, no problem for rank, but you can improve it i guess. changed a bit.
  3. 01:00:974 (1) - if move to x352,y320. it make more good blanket effect with 01:00:613 (4) -
  4. also, it become to regular DS here.
    if do that, need to adjust placement 01:02:058 (2) -
  5. 02:17:601 (3,4,5) - improvable regular DS lol it's nazi.
  6. 03:43:625 (3) - use same curvature with previous slider,
    it might be look like weird different curve slider, in same sound, they are actually in different sounds...
  7. 03:45:793 - you might be follow lyric in this part.
    but in my opinion, even though, you change this rhythm 03:45:070 (3,1) - ,
    kial should be start in here. like previous kiai time. i just change kiai's start tick to fit this slider.
  8. 04:05:673 (7) - make 1/1 slider? according to 04:02:781 (1) - nope for i wanna start following piano track at 04:06:034 (1) - .
  9. 05:17:962 (5) - quitely downbeat slider ;w; it's another way to show players downbeat, even cause them caring the rhythm much better than tapping ones in lower songs imo.
clean map :)

XiaofengTiger wrote:

新人水个摸
  1. 00:02:058 - 感觉这里加个点好,鉴于00:01:697 (4) - 两个音效都是没有回音的whistle
  2. 00:17:600 (1,2) - 因为后面那个3跟1的距离刚好是ds的距离所以我的话会漏了2。而且太顺手了,并且接下来都是单点 so?
  3. 00:40:011 (4) - 同样挡在后面感觉会漏掉 ^
  4. 03:48:323 (1,2) - 同第一个,堆叠+后面一串移动单点+不变颜色很容易漏的感觉 ^
  5. 04:30:251 (2,3) - 没有包好
给个crystal耀星,闪了
thanks for modding!
smallboat
握曹,幾乎都同間距啊,還能找什麼碴? 只能直接給 #1 Bubbled 了233

Reason : This overall distance almost the same make I can't find anything anymore to me, last test timing okay imo, so give #1 Bubble.
BeatofIke
Pretty straight-forward map to be honest. The timing seems to be fine as well so...
Bubble #2~


Rizia
fixed some general thing
overall this map is very good
qualified!
mintong89
lol sorry but I thought it's 阿基师 for a second
snz
Lol This Map It's Soo Easy
neurosis
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Kuki
what's the need for minus offset though
Otosaka-Yu
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