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otetsu - Minamo no Sakura, Yume wa Sakayume

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SnowNiNo_
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
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Joined April 2013
SnowNiNo_

Saut wrote:

nino
- 00:09:666 - i feel like the intro sliders could be way slower. Feels weird while playing especially because the ds is relativly small tho. Reducing the slidervelo would also emphasize the sliders in the kiais.
- since every 8th measure is pronounced in the song it would make sense to add some more spacing on these even though its a calm part // means here 00:10:866 - 00:13:266 - 00:15:666 - 00:18:066 - .. basically on every nc
- 00:39:666 - song breaks quite good here sooooo increase the ds xxx
- 00:44:166 (1,2,3,4) - i dont really think that anyone will follow the curve here. I usually cheat and just continue the first curve until i reach the slider. Make something less ew here :(
- i really like the intensity of the kiais but you often tend to make things look messy like 00:44:466 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - or 00:52:266 (5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - . Avoiding those overlaps (or make them look consistent) is actualy quite easy though 1 2 // there are acutaly more 'clumsy' pattern tho
- 01:03:666 - this part is too hard if you compare it with 01:22:866 - which sounds almost the same :y It would make sense if you make the second part harder but not the other way around
- 01:33:516 (9,1,2,3,4) - the transition into the stream is kinda awkward, you could raise (9) and rotate the stream slightly like this // aaand i dont really th ink decreasing the ds here 01:33:966 - is a good thing since the japanese instrument thing doesnt really change into something quieter

well yea biggest concern here is the randomness of jumps. Things like 01:44:466 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - where (2) should have more spacing then (3) happen quite often which makes everything seem so random though, even if you excluding the overlaping thing i mentioned before

this sounds so harsh lol, as a player i think the diff is quite fun to play
thanks for mod :)
fixed some 
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Original otetsu feat.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 94266
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: None
StackLeniency: 0.7
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LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 8
TimelineZoom: 1.9

[Metadata]
Title:Minamo no Sakura, Yume wa Sakayume
TitleUnicode:水面の桜、夢は逆夢
Artist:otetsu
ArtistUnicode:otetsu
Creator:Riven
Version:NiNo's Extra
Source:
Tags:天響ノ和樂2 tenkyou-no-wagaku 2 Megurine Luka vocaloid xDarxen DavidEd SnowNiNo_
BeatmapID:977037
BeatmapSetID:385248

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CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:8.5
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Dilectus
1,727 posts
Joined April 2014
Dilectus
increased ds on main emphasize parts
did not nc that stream (combo goes above 10)

thanks for the mod

fixes
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Original otetsu feat.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 94266
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
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LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 39666,82866
DistanceSpacing: 1.4
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.9

[Metadata]
Title:Minamo no Sakura, Yume wa Sakayume
TitleUnicode:水面の桜、夢は逆夢
Artist:otetsu
ArtistUnicode:otetsu
Creator:Riven
Version:DavidEd's Insane
Source:
Tags:天響ノ和樂2 tenkyou-no-wagaku 2 Megurine Luka vocaloid xDarxen DavidEd SnowNiNo_
BeatmapID:886746
BeatmapSetID:385248

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:7
ApproachRate:9
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//Break Periods
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Kibbleru
osu! Alumni
5,844 posts
Joined August 2013
Kibbleru
Can u reduce the amount of triplets used in the insane diff to balance the rhythm density between hard and insane? alot of them are not too necessary.
01:33:666 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - consider reducing the spacing even further for these streams. or maybe use repeat sliders for parts of it.
DeletedUser_3638005
Topic Starter
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Saut
hello

dream
- you dont really need a nc every 4th measure. This only leads to ugly 2combo pattern :E i think the 2 combo pattern is pretty :E
- 00:12:066 (3,4,5) - because of the auto stack leniency thing these objects touch ->>>>>>>> http://puu.sh/pXVdy/b3ed25a6d0.jpg // same 00:19:266 (1,2,3) -
- 2nd point of ninos mod applies here too ive done that somewhere here and there.
- 00:39:066 - neither the vocal nor the instrumentals change, so the sv decrease is kinda pointless here. I would even go for a 1/1 slider so you can space it's done to give extra emphasis on the next extremely intense part00:39:666 - further away to make sure everyone notices that the real shit beginns now // besides - 01:31:266 (1,2,1) - you havent added a sv slow down here so i got ya no, there are those intense beats behind those sliders the second time ive done it. that is why there is no sv slowdown
- 00:40:416 - 00:40:716 - should be clickable due to the strong beat imoo // 00:41:466 (1,2) - same i tried it but i don't really like it, starting my sliders on the red tick is a little meh, i'd rather follow the dududu :^)
- let me copy my statement of the previous mod real quick: well yea biggest concern here is the randomness of jumps. Things like 00:44:616 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - where (1) and the triple after (1) should have more spacing then (5) happen quite often which makes everything seem so random
^no one really cares about perfect logic these days so if you decide to leave things like probably that no one will bat an eye
- avoiding things like 00:45:666 (1,1) - would add sex appeal ;)
- 01:02:691 (2) - starting 1/4 slider on blue ticks is usually eeeee especially when the slider end 01:02:766 - should actualy be emphasized. Just go for a triple here.
- 01:09:966 - no NCnerino pls // same 01:15:066 - 01:07:866 -
- 01:03:666 - not too sure what you are following in this part. But since you kinda followed the vocals from this point on 01:13:266 - you should probably do the same in the first part. Means you should make things like 01:04:416 - 01:04:716 - 01:05:166 - 01:06:816 - 01:16:416 - 01:21:966 - clickable
- 01:22:416 - while the strong hitsound might make sense on the first three objects i would remove it here.
-01:23:466 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1) - jumps are too stronkk for this part. Reduce the spacing to something more reasonable like you perfectly did here 01:26:466 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - for example
- 01:29:766 (6,1,2) - very confusing while playin due to the various time distances. If you space 01:30:066 (1,2) - apart things work // also add a nc here 01:29:466 - to accentuate the 1/1 gaps the first 1/1 notes have a 0,1 distance snap from each other, i stacked the 1/2 note with the reverse to show that it changes to 1/2, if i space them they will look like 1/1
- 01:31:866 - 1/1 thing + spacing
- 01:32:466 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - while the following stream is fine i think the spacing is too huge here
- oh and i dont really see a consistent pattern for when you space the triple like 00:44:616 (2,3,4) - or you decide to stack them like 00:45:216 (2,3,4) - . Having something consistent is always good. Pls tell me if there is something consistent and im dumb
- the thing with the randomness applies also in the second kiai // i love the intensity of the second kiai though


hitsound things:
claps =/= finishes
places you really should add claps: 00:39:966 - 00:40:416 - / 00:44:766 - every 2nd measure from this point...
places you should remove claps: 00:39:666 - /00:45:066 - every 2nd measure from this point...

its acutaly quite obv where you should add claps and where not, feel free to text me ingame if you struggle with the hitsound


gl gl gl gl gl gl gl

Thanks.
Dilectus
1,727 posts
Joined April 2014
Dilectus
alright. cleaned up some triples (not the ones on major beats). 01:54:066 - this part forward i wont delete any triples since all of them are audiable
switcharoo on the stream before chorus

ill still buy you a drink

fixes
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xDarxen
313 posts
Joined July 2014
xDarxen

Saut wrote:

Mod
darxen
- you kinda ignore the strong beat here 00:40:416 - and here 00:41:616 - which is funny because you follow it perfectly afterwards. soo going for something like this would be more logical
- um, i also kinda dislike how you tend to use harsh angles and movements like 00:39:666 (1,2,3) - or 00:45:516 (4,1) - or 00:54:516 (2,3) -. I cant really see a consistent pattern here, it feels like you choose randomly whether you go for a smooth flowing patter or something like this. If there is consistency then teach me tho
- 00:58:566 (4,1) - ppl told me that touching slider heads/ends are ew and something like are beautiful http://puu.sh/pXQec/02c56db4cf.jpg // happens some more times

also list of things that should be clickable bc of obvious reasons, if possible: 00:48:366 - 00:50:166 - 00:57:966 - 00:59:766 - 01:02:166 - 01:04:416 - 01:06:816 - 01:09:366 - 01:14:166 - 01:16:416 - 01:16:866 - !!
its quite easy to change most of the mentioned things like the first two: 1 2
Changed a lot of stuff and remmaped some parts. Thanks!

Update
osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:水面の桜、夢は逆夢
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Creator:Riven
Version:xDarxen's Hard
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Tags:天響ノ和樂2 tenkyou-no-wagaku 2 Megurine Luka vocaloid xDarxen DavidEd SnowNiNo_
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Chaoslitz
Elite Mapper / Elite Storyboarder
2,307 posts
Joined November 2013
Chaoslitz
M4M (Sorry for delay)

[General]
  1. Name you soft-sliderslide1 into soft-sliderslide instead
[Easy]
  1. 00:13:266 - Place something clickable as 00:13:566 (1) is not following any vocal, a slider starts at 00:13:266 will make a easier rhythm
  2. 00:24:066 - ^
  3. 01:32:466 - A strong downbeat here, try something clickable?
  4. Nice diff, the only thing I would like to complain is the distance snap you have used, the map doesn't look really well when the objects are placed too close to each other (some of them are even overlapping), so 1.1x would fit
[Normal]
  1. 01:44:466 (1,2) - The distance between is too close
  2. The diff is fine but it lacks of 1/2 rhythm
    Use of 1/2 notes is encouraged as well as the development of more interesting beat placements if the song allows it.
    I know the bpm is high and using too much 1/2 rhythm will be too intense, but it is still needed for diff spread (at least in kiai)
[Hard]
  1. 00:39:366 - I don't think it is good to skip the vocal here, try shorten the slider to here and then add a note on 00:39:516?
  2. 01:32:166 - ^
[xDarxen's Insane]
  1. 00:39:366 - Same as in Hard
[NiNo's Insane]
  1. 00:40:416 (5) - Place this lower, the current flow of jump is weird
[Dream]
  1. 00:39:366 - Same as in Hard
  2. 01:32:166 - ^
  3. 01:30:066 (1,2) - Better not to overlap this two, it is quite misleading after hitting 01:29:466 (1,2)

lower diffs need more work imo
Good luck!
Dilectus
1,727 posts
Joined April 2014
Dilectus

Chaoslitz wrote:

[DAVIDED'S******* Insane]
  1. 00:39:366 - Same as in Hard Here I wanted to create as big of impact as possible by emphasizing the first note in the next part. And it's also a good lead in to a more intense part of the song. I love this part so I wont change. ^^
Hey... I know me and Darwen isn't that hard to differentiate. But there's no way I can be as sexy as he is ;w; I'm just gonna take that as a compliment. <3

No fix
DeletedUser_3638005
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_3638005
Chaoslitz
M4M (Sorry for delay)

[General]
  1. Name you soft-sliderslide1 into soft-sliderslide instead
[Easy]
  1. 00:13:266 - Place something clickable as 00:13:566 (1) is not following any vocal, a slider starts at 00:13:266 will make a easier rhythm i feel like the beats are of the same intensity so that is why I did that, so ill keep it.
  2. 00:24:066 - ^
  3. 01:32:466 - A strong downbeat here, try something clickable? fixed
  4. Nice diff, the only thing I would like to complain is the distance snap you have used, the map doesn't look really well when the objects are placed too close to each other (some of them are even overlapping), so 1.1x would fit i like the spacing, i will keep it for now and see what other BNs have to say about it.
[Normal]
  1. 01:44:466 (1,2) - The distance between is too close fixed
  2. The diff is fine but it lacks of 1/2 rhythm sorry but i won't be adding 1/2 rhyhtm in a normal song, it's too fast for this bpm and doesn't fit with the diff imo
    Use of 1/2 notes is encouraged as well as the development of more interesting beat placements if the song allows it.
    I know the bpm is high and using too much 1/2 rhythm will be too intense, but it is still needed for diff spread (at least in kiai)
[Dream]
  1. 00:39:366 - Same as in Hard while yes, there is a beat on the white tick, the vocal is continuous (-aaaaaee-ru) therefore i feel like it's ok to keep it like this.
  2. 01:32:166 - ^
  3. 01:30:066 (1,2) - Better not to overlap this two, it is quite misleading after hitting 01:29:466 (1,2) fixed

lower diffs need more work imo
Good luck!

Thanks.
SnowNiNo_
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
2,106 posts
Joined April 2013
SnowNiNo_
@Chaoslitz : oky blanket with 00:40:866 (1) - 

osu file format v14

[General]
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Title:Minamo no Sakura, Yume wa Sakayume
TitleUnicode:水面の桜、夢は逆夢
Artist:otetsu
ArtistUnicode:otetsu
Creator:Riven
Version:NiNo's Extra
Source:
Tags:天響ノ和樂2 tenkyou-no-wagaku 2 Megurine Luka vocaloid xDarxen DavidEd SnowNiNo_
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xDarxen
313 posts
Joined July 2014
xDarxen

Chaoslitz wrote:

M4M (Sorry for delay)

[Hard]
  1. 00:39:366 - I don't think it is good to skip the vocal here, try shorten the slider to here and then add a note on 00:39:516?
  2. 01:32:166 - ^ As Riven said, the vocal is continuous (-aaaaaee-ru) and it is also a good way to prepare players for the hard part, so I think I will leave it like that.

DavidEd wrote:

Hey... I know me and Darwen isn't that hard to differentiate. But there's no way I can be as sexy as he is ;w; I'm just gonna take that as a compliment. <3
Nice one :D
Kibbleru
osu! Alumni
5,844 posts
Joined August 2013
Kibbleru
aight seems good now, poke me more next time
Lasse
Beatmap Nominator
3,596 posts
Joined June 2011
Lasse
why is the hitsounding so weird? (referring to highest diff)
it's really apparent in the kiai
http://i.imgur.com/CmUyz4v.jpg is how the song goes pretty much each measure there
00:44:466 (1) - somehow makes sense since drum clap works okay for kicks
00:44:766 - nothing on the snare though
00:45:066 - now you put a normal clap on a kick, which would make much more sense if put on ^
00:45:366 - second snare of the measure, ignored again
I don't know why the hitsounding on highest diff is different from easy/normal, on those the clap placement makes more sense
besides this it also often feels kinda lacking (mainly kiai) due to the lack of finish and whistle usage despite the song supporting it

I'd highly suggest you take a deeper look at the hitsounding of the highest diff, fix that up and copy it over to all others, right now it's a mess

01:21:666 (1,2,3,4) - this is nice though
could also consider muting normal-sliderslide (you only muted 2, but kiai uses sampleset1)

easy:
01:27:066 - somehow your nc pattern gets messed up starting here
00:43:266 (4) - soft sampleset on sliderbody is better here (same for normal), normal slider and ticks are so annoying here
01:03:666 - 01:34:266 - no hitsounding at all whole 30s section is only drum hitnormals (also main reason for the pop since this WILL be DQ'd if anyone points it out during qualification)

normal:
comboing in the intro seems pretty random 00:10:866 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 3 measures -- 00:14:466 (1,2,3,4) - 2 measures -- 00:16:866 (1,2,3,4,5) - 3 measures and then it's pretty consistent 2 measure ??
01:34:866 - 02:13:266 - this is like, extremely boring even for a normal since you just use clockwise for the whole time except like 3 small spots, first kiai was way nicer in that aspect
01:03:666 - part should probably use normal sampleset instead of drum, like you did on the highest diff
going to stop commenting on hitsounds now

darxen:
00:40:116 (2,3,2,3) - harder than most parts of the chorus despite being way less intense?
00:53:916 (5,1) - why is this stacked when 1 is way stronger? seems weird
01:03:516 (5,1) - stacking the transition into a new section doesn't really work/make any sense

davided:
00:17:765 (4,5,1) - autostacking ruins your intended symmetry pattern here
00:43:866 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - is this really necessary and then also with this spacing, something like http://i.imgur.com/LbfytAN.jpg to reduce the stream lerngth would fit the spread much better as hard uses no clickable 1/4 at all. Like people that can 99%+ the Hard will probably fail here lol
00:58:266 (3,1,4) - visuals : /
01:03:066 (4) - most emphasized sound of here but no movement/spacing change at all makes if feel insignificant

nino:
visuals look like a mess to me, but I already know how you will reply to that so...
though some of your newer stuff actually looks way nicer
but this is too triggering for me

somehow your hitsounding for lower diffs does the opposite of the highest, which in turn does the opposite of what the song does.
Last edited by Lasse , edited 1 time in total.
Dilectus
1,727 posts
Joined April 2014
Dilectus

Lasse wrote:

00:17:765 (4,5,1) - autostacking ruins your intended symmetry pattern here will put 4,5 under 1 instead
00:43:866 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - is this really necessary and then also with this spacing, something like http://i.imgur.com/LbfytAN.jpg to reduce the stream lerngth would fit the spread much better as hard uses no clickable 1/4 at all. Like people that can 99%+ the Hard will probably fail here lol perhaps its a bit too much for a 200bpm insane
00:58:266 (3,1,4) - visuals : / played with stacking
01:03:066 (4) - most emphasized sound of here but no movement/spacing change at all makes if feel insignificant made a slight movement change upwards
Useful mod, thanks!

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xDarxen
313 posts
Joined July 2014
xDarxen

Lasse wrote:

darxen:
00:40:116 (2,3,2,3) - harder than most parts of the chorus despite being way less intense? This was actually suggested by Saut in order to emphasize the strong sounds and make them clickable. I feel like if I change this, important sounds will be ignored, so I'll keep it.
00:53:916 (5,1) - why is this stacked when 1 is way stronger? seems weird Changed
01:03:516 (5,1) - stacking the transition into a new section doesn't really work/make any sense ^^
Thank you!

Update
osu file format v14

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Title:Minamo no Sakura, Yume wa Sakayume
TitleUnicode:水面の桜、夢は逆夢
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Creator:Riven
Version:xDarxen's Hard
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Tags:天響ノ和樂2 tenkyou-no-wagaku 2 Megurine Luka vocaloid xDarxen DavidEd SnowNiNo_
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DeletedUser_3638005
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_3638005
Fixed everything and discussed with the mappers on some of the hitsounds.
Kibbleru
osu! Alumni
5,844 posts
Joined August 2013
Kibbleru
lasse said i can rebubble. unless mapper lied to me



edit: oops, fixed
Pentori
1,157 posts
Joined November 2015
Pentori
ok, i'm popping this again for a couple of reasons:
the updates from davided and xdarxen weren't even applied
normal-hitwhistle and drum-hitwhistle are inaudible, listen to 00:45:366 - you cant hear the whistle over the normal sampleset. try amplifying the volume or selecting a different hitsound
nino's diff has no separate hitsound for snares 00:44:766 - it seems you fixed these in other diffs from lasse's mod, just remember to copy them

ok now for the actual mod
[Dream]
00:40:266 (1,2) - 00:41:466 (1,2) - the slider ends have so much weight - clicking the white ticks doesn't follow the music that well
00:44:466 - why are you using a different hitsound here? the drums are the same, if you want to use a unique hitsound for the stronger downbeat then use a finish
01:02:691 (2) - not sure why you choose to do this now, the main melody is more attached to the red tick 01:02:616
01:22:266 (3,4) - for such a weak sound i dont think it deserves this much spacing
01:29:466 - the intensity drops so much here yet the music doesn't change. if you want to emphasise the vocals, there are better ways of doing so that doesn't drop the intensity
01:33:066 (1,2) - stronger red tick, ctrl g rhythm

[NiNo's Extra]
01:10:116 (4,5) - your usage of sliders feels very offbeat in some places, if the vocals + instruments are on the white ticks here, why are the reds clicked? happens a lot in the section
01:13:716 (5,6,7,1) - flows very poorly, you have a mix of different spacings with awkward angles
01:38:616 - random clap?
01:53:166 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - decreasing in pitch, therefore gradually decreasing spacing would be more appropriate
01:54:666 (5,6,7,8) - i dont really agree with these overmapped sliders lol, just feels too forced ; w;
DeletedUser_3638005
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_3638005
00:40:266 (1,2) - 00:41:466 (1,2) - the slider ends have so much weight - clicking the white ticks doesn't follow the music that well Starting the sliders on the red ticks felt weird with the rest of the map so I made them jumps
00:44:466 - why are you using a different hitsound here? the drums are the same, if you want to use a unique hitsound for the stronger downbeat then use a finish
01:02:691 (2) - not sure why you choose to do this now, the main melody is more attached to the red tick 01:02:616
01:22:266 (3,4) - for such a weak sound i dont think it deserves this much spacing
01:29:466 - the intensity drops so much here yet the music doesn't change. if you want to emphasise the vocals, there are better ways of doing so that doesn't drop the intensity
01:33:066 (1,2) - stronger red tick, ctrl g rhythm Made those jumps too, to be consistent with 00:40:266 (1,2,3,4) -

Fixed everything, thanks
SnowNiNo_
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
2,106 posts
Joined April 2013
SnowNiNo_

Pentori wrote:

[NiNo's Extra]
01:10:116 (4,5) - your usage of sliders feels very offbeat in some places, if the vocals + instruments are on the white ticks here, why are the reds clicked? happens a lot in the section
01:13:716 (5,6,7,1) - flows very poorly, you have a mix of different spacings with awkward angles
01:38:616 - random clap?
01:53:166 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - decreasing in pitch, therefore gradually decreasing spacing would be more appropriate
01:54:666 (5,6,7,8) - i dont really agree with these overmapped sliders lol, just feels too forced ; w; hmm i think these kicks give great emphasis on the intense music here, since this part too the end is the most intense part of the song
thx for mod :3
change some rhythm choice on 01:10:116 (4,5) - this part, might want to take a look again :>
and polish a bit :)
upd8
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Pentori
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check tag conflict

dream
00:41:466 (1,2) - and 01:30:066 - did u mean to fix these from previous mod?


edit: did some stuff
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23:14 Riven: hey
23:14 Riven: i just saw your post, can i have a clarification on something?
23:14 *Riven is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1053232 otetsu - Minamo no Sakura, Yume wa Sakayume [Dream]]
23:14 Pentori: yeah whats up
23:14 Riven: 01:30:066 - about this point, you mean you want me to make that part more intense?
23:15 Riven: 01:30:066 (1,2,1,2) -
23:15 Pentori: yeah
23:15 Pentori: the intensity drop is too drastic imo
23:15 Pentori: u can do something like in ninos diff
23:16 Riven: would filling the red ticks between the sliders be enough?
23:16 Riven: let me see
23:16 Pentori: yeah
23:16 Pentori: that works
23:16 Riven: yea he does the same thing
23:16 Pentori: yep
23:22 Riven: alright that should be good now i think
23:23 Riven: 00:39:666 (1) - till 00:39:666 (1) -
23:23 Riven: do you think this part is too intense
23:23 Riven: cause i don't have any sliders
23:24 Pentori: yeah, making them jumps doesnt work well
23:25 Riven: let me see what i can do
23:25 Pentori: 00:40:266 - http://puu.sh/tvFyb/f8478a2c24.jpg
23:25 Pentori: id put sliders for the different sounds
23:25 Pentori: but up 2 you
23:26 Riven: 00:41:166 - i was about to make this a slider
23:26 Riven: sliders on red ticks seem a little weird to me
23:29 Pentori: yeah but
23:29 Pentori: emphasis
23:42 Riven: alright i ended up using your recommended rhythm
23:42 Riven: 00:40:266 (1) - changed patterns from here till 00:43:566 (4) -
23:44 Pentori: looks better
00:13 Pentori: so is it ready now?
00:14 Riven: yeah i believe so
00:15 Pentori: got metadata somewhere?
00:16 Riven: i had the link
00:17 Riven: but my bookmarked pages got wiped
00:17 Riven: ill find it again
00:17 Riven: one moment
00:18 Pentori: ok, thx
00:19 Riven: http://otetsu721.blog60.fc2.com/blog-entry-292.html
00:19 Riven: this is his official blog
00:21 Riven: i asked about the title before, if it should be
00:21 Riven: ''otetsu feat.巡音ルカ''
00:21 Riven: or just otetsu
00:21 Riven: and i was told to put 巡音ルカ in the tags
00:21 Riven: which is Megurine Luka
00:22 Pentori: yep
00:22 Pentori: seems fine
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wah congrats boi :)
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please dont ever touch the editor again
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Shiirn
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Shiirn
hope you polish up your next map a bit more in the massive amount of time you have between BN checks, you've got a lot of crap all over in the top diff (absolutely disgusting blankets, bad structure, messed up consistency, weird choices like why isnt 01:22:266 (3,4) - a slider?, 02:04:116 (4,1,2,3,4) - wtf is this rhythm, you're really doing a bad job of representing the flute, etc) and i can only assume there are similar things in the other diffs


nothing really DQ worthy but really should have been pointed out at some point for the sake of your own map's wellbeing.
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Thanks for your concerns, I will consider them in my future maps, but you see, this was mapped in 2015, so it uses my old mapping style. Also, the blankets aren't disgusting and the structure is fine. : )
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