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怎么又2个osb,怀疑是高级用法

[满头包]
  1. 05:34:051 (2,3) - 距离近一点比较好,比如这样
  2. 06:12:772 (1) - 漏人声

[有如]
  1. 02:54:633 从这里开始感觉节奏很迷啊,比如这个03:01:261 (5) - 怎么听都觉得漏音了
  2. 03:06:842 (3) - 你们怎么都喜欢这种排列,接在低速滑条后面完全就是jb啊
  3. 04:32:830 (3) - ctrl+g
  4. 05:03:005 (1,2) - 有点太近了



[学妹]
  1. 00:04:051 (2) - 我觉得吧,还是换成单点听起来自然些,虽然滑条也没什么问题
  2. 00:08:063 (2) - 删掉好些,前面跟的空一点比较好
  3. 00:10:330 (4) - 换成单点
  4. 00:33:703 (1,2) - ctrl+G?
  5. 00:39:633 (1,2,3) - 这三个滑条还是反过来我觉得接后面的串顺些,只是前面那个单点要移
  6. 00:45:214 (4) - 移到5的尾巴上,虽然有点jb
  7. 00:47:569 (1,2) - too jb
  8. 00:54:110 (4) - 还是滑条吧,白线漏的很难听
  9. 01:16:261 (1) - 1移到3的头上这样的排列试试
  10. 01:25:330 (4,1) - 换下NC
学妹niubia
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Mei wrote:

怎么又2个osb,怀疑是高级用法 嘻嘻改metadata遗留的

[学妹]
  1. 00:04:051 (2) - 我觉得吧,还是换成单点听起来自然些,虽然滑条也没什么问题 没问题就不改了
  2. 00:08:063 (2) - 删掉好些,前面跟的空一点比较好 我觉得还好啊,前后都空一拍不是那么舒服,开头反正无所谓嘛
  3. 00:10:330 (4) - 换成单点 不好吧,后面那么长一个音不喜欢空一下
  4. 00:33:703 (1,2) - ctrl+G? 可以
  5. 00:39:633 (1,2,3) - 这三个滑条还是反过来我觉得接后面的串顺些,只是前面那个单点要移 嘻嘻,就不反,反正我自己能打
  6. 00:45:214 (4) - 移到5的尾巴上,虽然有点jb 感觉没必要吧,现在这样挺好的啊
  7. 00:47:569 (1,2) - too jb 好好好,删了1
  8. 00:54:110 (4) - 还是滑条吧,白线漏的很难听 反正跟的vocal
  9. 01:16:261 (1) - 1移到3的头上这样的排列试试 因为这俩音一样所以就原地了
  10. 01:25:330 (4,1) - 换下NC

T-Mac wrote:

[Bystander]

00:01:610 (1) - 这个NC太长了,00:02:656 (5) - 感觉这里应该可以NC,而且00:03:528 (9) - 这个感觉有点多余,听上去的话 00:01:610 (1,2,3,4) - 00:02:656 (5,6,7,8) - 是没什么区别的,00:03:877 (1) - 的NC移到 00:03:703 (10) - 这里

00:07:889 (1) - 这种地方还我的话我就考虑跟vocal了 http://puu.sh/pycse/b8c9cba10a.jpg 之前考虑过改成这样,不过后来发现不太好排列,所以就算了,当前其实打起来没啥太大问题

00:12:249 - 这地方好像也不用空着 当年的我比较喜欢这种顿一下的感觉所以就这样吧

00:18:005 (1) - 这地方的音效听不见啊,而且这不是默认的slidertick的音效吗 改成soft whistle了

00:28:470 (2) - 讲道理1/4从这里就可以开始放起来了,00:28:470 (2,3) - 这两个换成1/4滑条应该可行 我怎么完全感觉不到。。所以还是不改了

00:34:400 - 00:35:621 (5) - 这几个地方应该是要有音效的 hao

00:51:842 - 这里开始白线上的音效漏的好多啊,00:52:191 - 00:52:540 - 00:53:237 - 00:53:586 - 00:54:982 - 00:55:330 - 00:56:028 - 00:56:377 (2) - 00:57:772 - 00:58:121 - 00:58:819 - 01:00:563 - 01:00:912 (1) - 01:01:261 - 01:01:610 - 01:01:958 - ,我觉得你应该单独找一个音效放在这些白线上,因为这也是鼓点的一种,现在的 whistle不适合这样的鼓点,另外00:56:203 - 00:58:993 - 这地方不需要whistle 全都改了,自己加了个音效

01:02:307 (1,2,3,4) - 这四个我觉得都可以是 drum finish,01:02:307 (1) - 这个在加个whistle ok

01:11:377 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 这地方不用叠起来,感觉更适合放跳 个人觉得现在这样就挺好

01:47:482 (2,3,4) - 感觉更适合 drum sampleset,01:47:743 - 这地方太响了 改了

01:51:668 (1) - 感觉这种明显降速的滑条更适合用弯的形状 改成弧形了

01:55:418 (7,8) - 这两个drum sampleset没看懂,另外02:06:232 (4) - 这个应该跟 02:06:144 (3) - 的差不多啊,也是不应该用 drum sampleset,还有02:09:371 (2,3,4) - 这里,讲道理这样的串我觉得根本不适合用 drum sampleset,建议还是用 soft sampleset,这种音效打串的时候根本打不出感觉,我有点奇怪为什么这个图最没打击感的音效居然是drum,最有打击感的居然是soft 嘿嘿,改了


说到底我觉得你好好找几个牛逼点的音效至少能解决我上面讲的至少一半的问题 毕竟我和红白作图理念有些不同音效都是他下的可能有些地方不合适吧(
thx for modding
Mafumafu
00:01:610 (1) - 感觉一开始这里把音跟全比较好
00:08:063 (2) - 这个可以考虑删掉
00:11:377 (5,6,7) - 突然增大间距有点莫名其妙的感觉
00:39:633 (1,2,3,1) - flow有点卡手
02:31:435 (1,2) - 交换NC
03:06:057 (2,3,4,5) - 有点难读
03:06:493 (5,6) - 不建议1/4这么远,因为后面是连打
03:07:889 (5,6) - ^
03:22:889 (2) - vocal落在尾巴上有点别扭
03:36:493 (1,1,1,2,3,4) - ???
03:58:819 (1,2) - 有点容易读成1/2
04:34:226 (1,2) - ^
05:03:005 (1,2) - 稍放远一点
05:46:261 (1,3) - 还是稍错开一点比较好
06:17:307 (2) - 1/4滑条会不会更带感一些?
老M无敌
加油!
Koiyuki

Regraz wrote:

05:03:005 (1,2) - 稍放远一点 没必要,本来就是慢下来的地方
05:46:261 (1,3) - 还是稍错开一点比较好 hao
06:17:307 (2) - 1/4滑条会不会更带感一些? 这个1/4距离有点远了,还是用note吧

我无敌
@Mei, 第一个改了,第二个不改

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136,24,407482,1,0,0:0:0:0:
218,145,407830,5,0,0:0:0:0:
156,99,408005,1,2,0:0:0:0:
81,116,408179,1,0,0:0:0:0:
39,180,408354,2,0,P|30:210|27:242,1,64,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
125,275,408703,2,0,P|121:243|113:212,1,64,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
81,116,409051,5,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,409139,12,0,411668,0:0:0:0:
Topic Starter
Vert
fix yoru's part cuz she is busy

OniJAM wrote:

m4m
03:16:261 (1) - remove NC ok
03:16:435 (1) - 可以换成1/2回转滑条 强行用梗感觉一般 感觉没什么大问题就不改了
04:06:842 (3,4,5,6,1) - 连打间距太小反而别扭 kiai里面的连打ds都拉开到0.6-0.8比较合适 ^

T-Mac wrote:

[Bystander]
03:03:528 (3,4) - 这里感觉应该跟 vocal,你这两个滑条我不知道跟的什么但是肯定不会是vocal 改了

03:12:423 (6) - 放串啊别怂 可以

03:39:284 (1,2,3) - 这种地方我觉得 note之间错开一些点点比较好 感觉没什么大影响就不改了

Mei wrote:

[有如]
  1. 02:54:633 从这里开始感觉节奏很迷啊,比如这个03:01:261 (5) - 怎么听都觉得漏音了 我也觉得是,不过先不改了,等他回来看看吧
  2. 03:06:842 (3) - 你们怎么都喜欢这种排列,接在低速滑条后面完全就是jb啊 是的他就是这么几把
  3. 04:32:830 (3) - ctrl+g ok
  4. 05:03:005 (1,2) - 有点太近了 朋友,这是mtb的部分

Regraz wrote:

00:01:610 (1) - 感觉一开始这里把音跟全比较好 是这样的,这一段就00:02:482 - 这里漏了吧,不过前后音都比较大所以为了突出一下就没放,而且是开始塞满不一定好
00:08:063 (2) - 这个可以考虑删掉 删了
00:11:377 (5,6,7) - 突然增大间距有点莫名其妙的感觉 前后节奏差别挺大的啊
00:39:633 (1,2,3,1) - flow有点卡手 故意滴
02:31:435 (1,2) - 交换NC 可以
03:06:057 (2,3,4,5) - 有点难读 红白标准坑爹梗,我就不擅自改了,至少看起来没问题
03:06:493 (5,6) - 不建议1/4这么远,因为后面是连打 3/4滑条的话应该没问题,顶多断个尾不会断cb
03:07:889 (5,6) - ^ ^
03:22:889 (2) - vocal落在尾巴上有点别扭 红白并不是跟vocal的选手
03:36:493 (1,1,1,2,3,4) - ??? 其实打起来不算难吧,突然加速我觉得是因为vocal突然变大了
03:58:819 (1,2) - 有点容易读成1/2 这个大概没问题吧?没有变速从滑条长度来看应该可以看出来
04:34:226 (1,2) - ^ 这个改了,把2放近了一些

因为是帮改所以有些东西我觉得能不改的就尽量不改了,嘻嘻
thx for modding XD
MirinH
m4m
我的圖:https://osu.ppy.sh/s/481783

00:05:621 (6) - 我覺得你可以去掉這個凸顯電音
00:12:249 - 漏音,是錯覺嗎
00:16:086 (4) - 變1/1滑條凸顯vocal
01:04:051 (5,6) - 我覺得你可以把主歌這段 像這樣vocal的時候來個跳,很有感覺
01:25:156 (3) - 用聯打啊
01:28:732 (1,2,1,2) - 這個nc就很莫名了
01:53:237 (1,2,3) - 我真覺得vocal用note比短滑條有感覺
02:01:086 (1,2) - 同樣,不建議本1/2的東西使用1/4短滑表達,沒有打擊感
02:15:563 (3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 這裏無腦spam1/2吧,這樣顯得太空太突然
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03:06:057 (2,3,4) - 03:08:848 (2,3,4) - 這tm誰讀的清楚啊,至少加個nc吧
03:15:389 - 我需要鋼琴聲
03:16:958 (1,2,3) - 你這三個節奏接不上後面啊,後面辣麽密,這裏辣麽稀
03:26:551 (1,2,3) - 換1/2滑條,相信你會喜歡
03:30:214 (4,5) - 前面這裏不是1/4嗎
04:24:633 (3,4) - 分開點

good luck
Topic Starter
Vert

Mackenzie wrote:

m4m
我的圖:https://osu.ppy.sh/s/481783

00:05:621 (6) - 我覺得你可以去掉這個凸顯電音 00:04:575 (2) - 和前面一样吧,感觉没必要改
00:12:249 - 漏音,是錯覺嗎 加了个圈
00:16:086 (4) - 變1/1滑條凸顯vocal 我在这停顿了一下就是为了凸显vocal,1/1滑条的话后面的vocal只能在滑条尾了,不舒服
01:04:051 (5,6) - 我覺得你可以把主歌這段 像這樣vocal的時候來個跳,很有感覺 感觉还不到跳的时候啊,后面kiai更适合
01:25:156 (3) - 用聯打啊 为了照顾vocal啊,基本这种地方我都下的滑条
01:28:732 (1,2,1,2) - 這個nc就很莫名了 改了
01:53:237 (1,2,3) - 我真覺得vocal用note比短滑條有感覺 这个改了
02:01:086 (1,2) - 同樣,不建議本1/2的東西使用1/4短滑表達,沒有打擊感 暂时没想到怎么改好,所以先放着吧
02:15:563 (3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 這裏無腦spam1/2吧,這樣顯得太空太突然前面比较激昂,这里为了凸显一下平缓段所以先这样我觉得没问题
回晚了,嘻嘻
thx for modding
Pentori
hello!

[General]
unused file: BGblack.png
set combo colours?

[Vert]
00:02:133 - 00:02:482 - 00:03:179 - plays quite awkwardly here when you ignore the piano that can be heard :/ if you don't want to emphasise it as much you should use a slider instead of leaving it blank imo
00:08:237 (2) - the vocal on the end of the slider is quite important because its accented, why not build a rhythm so that this 00:08:412 - is clickable?
00:15:563 (1,2,3) - reduce the spacing between these notes. its still in a slow section and i dont think its good to have consistent jumps here. by lowering the ds here, the spacing of 00:15:563 (1,4) - will stand out.
00:19:575 - add note here. not good to ignore obvious vocal tbh
00:34:400 - 00:35:621 (5) - i find this finish hitsounding very strange because there are a lot of other cymbals in the music that you haven't added finishes too. i can point some out 00:37:191 (4) - 00:41:203 (3) - 00:42:772 . since the cymbals are just part of the music, it would be better to not use finishes for them
00:58:470 (5,1) - spacing between these two beats should be higher than 00:58:296 (4,5)
01:16:261 (1) - whats the point of nc here?
01:05:272 (3,4,5) - these jumps are rly big for a slow section :/
01:09:807 (1) - why normal sampleset here? its the same sound as 01:08:412 (1)
01:16:261 (1) - i dont see the need for nc here
01:37:016 (4) - ^ it can be easily read without the nc
01:59:691 (1) - how about you remove nc here and add it here 02:00:214 (4) - for readability
02:09:982 (6,7) - this looks like extended slider usage because of the pattern and very low ds. this actually works well as an extended slider so i would extend 02:09:982 (6) - to the blue tick
02:20:796 (1) - it would make more sense to nc this 02:21:144 (3) - instead of what you have now, because you nced your other downbeats
02:23:237 (1) - should really avoid all this nc spam. these ncs aren't necessary
02:25:331 (5) - because you nc'ed 02:24:633 (1) - you should nc 02:25:331 (5) - as well to have consistent nc's with your patterns.
going to stop mentioning nc's here because there are a lot that you can probably fix on your own, going by the basis of my mod
02:36:144 (7,8,9) - different triplet usage is strange here. there also isn't a triplet here in the music. instead you could use triplet + kick slider. http://puu.sh/qSj21/afdcabef8e.jpg

[Yoru]
03:06:057 (2,3,4) - 03:08:848 (2,3,4) - this is really hard to read.. when players see three approach circles they normally just play triplets without thinking
03:22:365 (4,1) - why make the downbeat have the smallest ds? putting it on the end of 03:22:191 (3) - would kinda work if you reduced distance of the pattern a bit
04:33:354 (8) - nc because of ds change

[Yuki]
05:34:749 (5,1) - hm, you were mapping guitar the entire time and this note is like the highest one yet has smallest ds :/

good luck!
Topic Starter
Vert

Pentori wrote:

hello!

[General]
unused file: BGblack.png deleted
set combo colours? set

[Vert]
00:02:133 - 00:02:482 - 00:03:179 - plays quite awkwardly here when you ignore the piano that can be heard :/ if you don't want to emphasise it as much you should use a slider instead of leaving it blank imo i really didnt heard anything in 00:02:133 - 00:03:179 - and also i added a circle at 00:02:482 -
00:08:237 (2) - the vocal on the end of the slider is quite important because its accented, why not build a rhythm so that this 00:08:412 - is clickable? ok , i changed it to a cirle+a slider
00:15:563 (1,2,3) - reduce the spacing between these notes. its still in a slow section and i dont think its good to have consistent jumps here. by lowering the ds here, the spacing of 00:15:563 (1,4) - will stand out. compared with the previous part ,i think the beat here is stronger ,so i put it a little farther,so i only moved 3 closer
00:19:575 - add note here. not good to ignore obvious vocal tbh yes,added
00:34:400 - 00:35:621 (5) - i find this finish hitsounding very strange because there are a lot of other cymbals in the music that you haven't added finishes too. i can point some out 00:37:191 (4) - 00:41:203 (3) - 00:42:772 . since the cymbals are just part of the music, it would be better to not use finishes for them ok ,cancelled
00:58:470 (5,1) - spacing between these two beats should be higher than 00:58:296 (4,5) fixed
01:16:261 (1) - whats the point of nc here? XD,simlpe mistake
01:05:272 (3,4,5) - these jumps are rly big for a slow section :/ ok i changed this part to reduce the distance
01:09:807 (1) - why normal sampleset here? its the same sound as 01:08:412 (1) fixed
01:16:261 (1) - i dont see the need for nc here ^
01:37:016 (4) - ^ it can be easily read without the nc ^
01:59:691 (1) - how about you remove nc here and add it here 02:00:214 (4) - for readability ^
02:09:982 (6,7) - this looks like extended slider usage because of the pattern and very low ds. this actually works well as an extended slider so i would extend 02:09:982 (6) - to the blue tick but it will seem bad,so i make a sv change to make it more clear and also added a nc
02:20:796 (1) - it would make more sense to nc this 02:21:144 (3) - instead of what you have now, because you nced your other downbeats
02:23:237 (1) - should really avoid all this nc spam. these ncs aren't necessary
02:25:331 (5) - because you nc'ed 02:24:633 (1) - you should nc 02:25:331 (5) - as well to have consistent nc's with your patterns.
going to stop mentioning nc's here because there are a lot that you can probably fix on your own, going by the basis of my modok,most of the nc problems are fixed and changed some others by my own
02:36:144 (7,8,9) - different triplet usage is strange here. there also isn't a triplet here in the music. instead you could use triplet + kick slider. http://puu.sh/qSj21/afdcabef8e.jpg ok
thx a lot !!!!
Kencho
placehold
  • Black is Personal comments.
    Bold Black is Highly recommended to fix.
    Red is Unrankable that you should fix.

[General]
  1. BGblack.png貌似是沒用的
  2. 無用綠線
    00:39:284 -
    00:40:679 -
    00:50:621 -
    02:54:633 -
    03:15:737 -
    03:16:435 -
    04:50:970 -

[Bystander]

  • Vert:
  1. 01:20:621 (4) - 這滑條什麼鬼,為何要減速?然後其次滑條尾是重音,我建議改成圓圈或者滑條頭會比較好
  2. 02:46:262 (1) - Unsnap滑條,正確的時間應該是02:46:261
    Hakurei Yoru:
  3. 02:58:470 (1,2) - 分別ctrl+G一下比較好
  4. 03:18:528 (4) - NC?
  5. 03:20:621 (4) - ^
  6. 03:26:377 (4,1) - 現在的間距和前面的物件有點太近,放到03:24:982 (4) - 滑條頭的位置比較好
    Koiyuki:
  7. 05:34:575 (4,5,1) - 這間距也太尷尬了,是說51的間距太近了,還不如疊一起
Rizia
[Bystander]
  1. 00:28:644 (3,4) - 這裡之間的flow有點卡住 可以找一個順點的擺法 例如下圖
  2. 01:20:621 (4) - 感覺不用特意變速得這麼慢
  3. 01:33:877 (2) - 疊到 x316 y344 做個交叉跳會比較有趣
  4. 02:01:522 (4) - 這個note聽上去有點不自然 前面overmap挺好的
  5. 03:22:540 (1) - 根據前面03:21:842 (1,2,3,4) - 是上下上下移動的 這樣的話03:22:540 (1) - 如果是放在下面的會較順吧
  6. 03:48:005 - 有人聲 也跟了會較好
  7. 03:56:377 (2) - 這個我覺得用1/2就夠了
Koiyuki
@Pentori: lol
@Kencho: 就是故意的嘿嘿
Topic Starter
Vert

Kencho wrote:

[General]
  1. BGblack.png貌似是沒用的 之前就删掉了
  2. 無用綠線
    00:39:284 -
    00:40:679 -
    00:50:621 -
    02:54:633 -
    03:15:737 -
    03:16:435 -
    04:50:970 - all deleted

[Bystander]

  • Vert:
  1. 01:20:621 (4) - 這滑條什麼鬼,為何要減速?然後其次滑條尾是重音,我建議改成圓圈或者滑條頭會比較好 减速去了,我是跟的vocal所以不改了
  2. 02:46:262 (1) - Unsnap滑條,正確的時間應該是02:46:261 挪了,莫名我之前都查过啊
    Hakurei Yoru:
  3. 02:58:470 (1,2) - 分別ctrl+G一下比較好 可以
  4. 03:18:528 (4) - NC?
  5. 03:20:621 (4) - ^
  6. 03:26:377 (4,1) - 現在的間距和前面的物件有點太近,放到03:24:982 (4) - 滑條頭的位置比較好还好吧,我觉得没啥问题

Rizia wrote:

[Bystander]
  1. 00:28:644 (3,4) - 這裡之間的flow有點卡住 可以找一個順點的擺法 例如下圖 ok,稍微改了一下
  2. 01:20:621 (4) - 感覺不用特意變速得這麼慢 好,取消变速了
  3. 01:33:877 (2) - 疊到 x316 y344 做個交叉跳會比較有趣 可以
  4. 02:01:522 (4) - 這個note聽上去有點不自然 前面overmap挺好的 那我把音效改回soft了
  5. 03:22:540 (1) - 根據前面03:21:842 (1,2,3,4) - 是上下上下移動的 這樣的話03:22:540 (1) - 如果是放在下面的會較順吧 我也是这样认为的,12都挪下去了
  6. 03:48:005 - 有人聲 也跟了會較好 这红白从来不跟人声的,所以我就不加了
  7. 03:56:377 (2) - 這個我覺得用1/2就夠了

aaaaaa,红白afk我帮他改摸,老M真是强,没有需要改的,all updated
Kencho
#1
Bubbled!
Rizia
2
Karen
00:03:877 (2,3) - 难看,不如滑条弄成直的
00:27:598 (4) - 加个NC?
03:13:819 (6,2) - 有点粗糙

厉害了
Topic Starter
Vert

Karen wrote:

00:03:877 (2,3) - 难看,不如滑条弄成直的 还好?主要是和后面00:04:749 (3) - 对称的
00:27:598 (4) - 加个NC? 可以
03:13:819 (6,2) - 有点粗糙 挪了一下

厉害了 我的人格
updated!!
Karen
3
Pata-Mon
nba
domSaur
i've been waiting for a map of this song to get ranked noice gZ
Cyc17-
你们整天飞飞飞
你们飞菟我飞妈
(又要rank 为什么是又:D
Meg
03:05:796 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6) - SV changes on this part is too hard to read imo. it doesn't fit compared to other parts, so i think it's out of place in this map. if you want to use SV changes, please use NC at least xd
also 03:06:144 (3,4) - like these stacks make hard to read. i think this pattern looks cool. however, it should be playable and readable
this is not opinion as mapper, is as player
IamKwaN
As requested.
Topic Starter
Vert

Meg wrote:

03:05:796 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6) - SV changes on this part is too hard to read imo. it doesn't fit compared to other parts, so i think it's out of place in this map. if you want to use SV changes, please use NC at least xd
also 03:06:144 (3,4) - like these stacks make hard to read. i think this pattern looks cool. however, it should be playable and readable
this is not opinion as mapper, is as player
thanks for looking at my map,I know that pattern is really hard to read so I will add some NCs,but patterns will not be changed ,they are really fun
I will update it next morning
Meg
i see~ Good luck!
Kencho
#1
Rebubbled!
Rizia
2
Karen
3
Lily Bread
恭喜出狱
Topic Starter
Vert

Lily Bread wrote:

恭喜出狱
:)
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