Soulclenz wrote:

Heh, funny we are talking about Zeus. I can support Magic fully on what he says. I haven't lost a match on Zeus for almost 2 months now.

I wouldn't be surprised if they nerf him into oblivion after ti4.

Sonatora wrote:

I'd be happy if they Nerf Zeus. A suggestion probably to reduce his ults damage but lower the cooldown to compensate

Pizzicato wrote:

how about huskar

and not just minute 30
his 3rd skill is scaling throughout the whole game

Pizzicato wrote:

how about huskar

and not just minute 30
his 3rd skill is scaling throughout the whole game

Tshemmp wrote:

Broodmother and Huskar are the two most useless heroes at the moment (imo).
Broodmother feeds 200 gold so easily to the enemy, the only thing you can do with your spiders is trying to farm the jungle and even then you risk to lose them. And what do you contribute to your team besides your spider push? Yes, you can get solo kills as soon as you get an orchid but in team fights Brood just sucks.
And Huskar needs to be low hp to actually do something.

gretay wrote:

if Huskar i think it depends with the enemy and the player too , if he get many kills it'll be hard to fight him late but if he can't farm and kills he'll easy

Soulclenz wrote:

gretay wrote:

if Huskar i think it depends with the enemy and the player too , if he get many kills it'll be hard to fight him late but if he can't farm and kills he'll easy

The only time Huskar is a threat late game is if the enemy team has no hard carry and only magic damage. If such a situation occurs you're either playing AR or against a bunch of bad drafters =p. Pretty much any carry will outshine Huskar late game.

Also, your logic of a hero getting many kills = harder to deal with vs hero getting no kills = easy to beat applies to pretty much any of them xD.

Sonatora wrote:

The problem with huskar is, even with low damage, his attack speed is monstrous. He can semi-tank late game and still dominate with his W and E. Combine it with his R and he's unstoppable at late game

kagaminelenz wrote:

Sonatora wrote:

The problem with huskar is, even with low damage, his attack speed is monstrous. He can semi-tank late game and still dominate with his W and E. Combine it with his R and he's unstoppable at late game

He is not precisely unstoppable though.
Yes, huskar have ridiculous attack speen and tanky in late game, but it doesn't mean he don't have any weakness.

IMO this is huskar weakness:
1. His burning spear is not hurt at all @ late game
2. His passive only reduce magical damage, it means huskar is vulnurable with physical damage and pure damage. Like gretay wrote, almost all carry will outshine him @ late game.
3. He maybe tanky, but he can outshine a pure tanker because his R need no little amount of HP. It makes huskar less tanky.
4. He is useless when fight the enemy with bkb (linken too though). A smart enemy team will have a lot bkb and linken in them.
5. He really depend on skill to ganking and team fight, it means Silence, Hex, Soul burn, and all sort of disable is fatal for him.

Sven- wrote:

found huskar? maybe we can trust necro's scythe and lifestealer :3

Tshemmp wrote:

Broodmother and Huskar are the two most useless heroes at the moment (imo).
Broodmother feeds 200 gold so easily to the enemy, the only thing you can do with your spiders is trying to farm the jungle and even then you risk to lose them. And what do you contribute to your team besides your spider push? Yes, you can get solo kills as soon as you get an orchid but in team fights Brood just sucks.
And Huskar needs to be low hp to actually do something.

Soulclenz wrote:

We've already gone over why Huskar and Brood aren't that great.

On another note, I seriously can't believe we might hit the 10m mark for the prize pool at Ti4, unreal.

gretay wrote:

Sven- wrote:

found huskar? maybe we can trust necro's scythe and lifestealer :3

for Life Stealer maybe right but umm i dont recommend Necro's scythe my friend said it's magic (i never use necro)
maybe for huskar you need Clinkz , i've seen huskar feed because of Clinkz from the early game
or Sven + Bkb - Huskar = A Pancake

Sven- wrote:

yeah i think so
but even huskar has magic ressistance and necro's scythe use a magic...but necro's damage depends on how much hp enemy are lost...not like another
magical skill like zeus,necro can scythe huskar's ass below 50% on huskar itself(with aghanim) :3

kagaminelenz wrote:

Sven- wrote:

yeah i think so
but even huskar has magic ressistance and necro's scythe use a magic...but necro's damage depends on how much hp enemy are lost...not like another
magical skill like zeus,necro can scythe huskar's ass below 50% on huskar itself(with aghanim) :3

Lemme, explain in his place
The answer is:
No, you can't kill huskar with below 50%.
With bkb on, huskar can kill necro only with 5 second (if the huskar play right from early ofc)

Ah, btw, no offense, and not to act smart, I just need to show a prove because it's against my principle to talk without proof (except lying ofc)

Calculation (CMIIW):
Necro SS + aghanim = 1,2 / HP loss
default magical resistance (all heroes) = 25%
Huskar 3rd skill resistance (lvl.4 @ 44% HP) = 56%, he have 7% for 7% each health missing
total magical resistances = 81%

Usually Huskar have 3000 or more, but let's take if he have 2500 HP (it to make calculation easier)
44% of 2500 = 1100 (He now have 1100 HP now)
Necro SS (Consider his damage type is pure) = 1,2 x (2500-1100) = 1680
But huskar have 81% resistance, so he can block = 1360.8 ==> 1361
You need huskar HP to kill him = 1680 - 1361 = 319
And the lower his HP his magic resist is better :3

It's impossible to make huskar HP lower from 44% without you die 1st. The smart user will target necro 1st while his bkb active

Necro's SS type is magical, so it still reduced by magical resistance.
His SS maybe different from Zeus, but the different is only in damage calculation. While zeus have fixed constanta, Necro not.
That is why gretay not recommend to use necro to counter huskar. Not only ineffective, but also a suicide.

NB: using necro to counter huskar is effective, when huskar still not nerfed though

i see XD thank you for the information

so we must use pyshical or pure damage to counter huskar? @.@ or should we use doom or omni's ulti?

Nwolf wrote:

We need a new voice for Io

Pizzicato wrote:

Nwolf wrote:

We need a new voice for Io

b-but
the beep boop D:

Sven- wrote:

I hope wraith king got a reanimation for reincarnation....so me with my friends thought if wraith king die and do reincarnation it will transform into skeleton king and if he die....back towraith king.....sounds epic for wraith king :3

Soulclenz wrote:

I could be wrong but I think they changed him to Wraith King due to copyright issues, so I don't think we'll ever see Skeleton King in game again =(.

dat big stadium

gretay wrote:

is that a stadium? it's just too.... big