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Lugei
(初次mod)英文差 用中文mod sorry :o

Inner oni
00:00:042 - 00:15:930 可用x1.5速度
00:15:708 (45,46,47) - 可改走第46同47音
01:14:042 - 01:15:208 建議用spinner 因為個段較為細聲
01:16:042 - 01:32:042 同樣可用x1.5速度 令譜面有特色啲(好似係 :?
01:32:042 (483) - 可改為藍音
01:33:042 - 01:34:042 可改為這樣 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5092048 另外可用x2.0速度
02:04:042 - 02:27:897 又可用x1.5速度(連埋spinner) 原因同上

希望以上淺見可以幫到你 :oops: 下次會再mod其他難度 :)
Nardoxyribonucleic
Hi, here is the M4M as requested.

[General]

Disable widescreen support from Kantan to Oni as there exists no storyboard.

  • [Kantan]

    Maybe HP+1 and OD-1 so that players could not pass the map with low accuracy.
  1. 00:13:708 (18) - you may want to remove this note to make the break consistent with 00:05:708 -
  2. 00:15:708 (21) - consider deleting this note for simplicity ? d D in 1/2 would be quite demanding for Kantan.
  3. 00:29:042 (41) - k would be better as the pitch of music is the same as 00:28:042 (40) -
  4. 00:36:042 (52) - maybe change this to d ? It sounds a bit overemphasized imo.
  5. 00:39:042 (57) - this note could be removed for a 3/1 break. Currently patterns are mapped in a way too consecutive, which is not favourable for beginners.
  6. 00:42:375 (61) - although the song BPM is low, it would be better to delete this note to avoid long 1/2 pattern in Kantan.
  7. 00:50:375 (73) - same as ^
  8. 00:55:042 (81,82,83) - similar to 00:39:042 (57) - , these notes could be deleted for another 3/1 break.
  9. 01:12:375 (109,110) - maybe delete these notes as well ? They look rather unnecessary and add too much to difficulty.
  10. 01:33:708 (22) and 01:36:375 (27) - same as 00:42:375 (61) -
  11. 01:47:042 (44,45,46) - same as 00:55:042 (81,82,83) -
  12. 01:50:375 (51) - same as 00:42:375 (61) -
  13. 01:57:708 (63) - consider removing this note to keep the break consistent with 01:43:708 - ?
  14. 02:02:708 (72,73) - swapping these notes to d k would fit the pitch increase well.
  15. 02:11:632 (83,84) - same as 00:39:042 (57) -
  • [Futsuu]

    Similar to Kantan, Maybe HP+1 ?
  1. 00:04:375 (7) - consider deleting this note for a better spread with Kantan ? It is as dense as Muzukashii at the moment.
  2. 00:07:375 (14) - 00:12:375 (24) and 00:15:375 (31) - same as ^
  3. 00:39:708 (92) - similar to ^ , this note could be removed to balance the difficulty gap with Kantan.
  4. 00:56:042 (121) - maybe add finish as you did in Kantan ?
  5. 00:59:708 (132,133) - you may swap these notes to d k to follow the pitch increase there.
  6. 01:11:542 (165) and 01:11:875 (167) - these two notes should be deleted for a better spread with Kantan. Then you may add finish at 01:12:042 (168) - to cohere with 01:10:042 (160) -
  7. 01:12:375 (169) - it would be better to delete this note for a break like in Muzukashii.
  8. 01:21:375 (12) - same as 00:04:375 (7) -
  9. 01:25:875 (20) - this note sounds a bit redundant in this calm session. Maybe remove it ?
  10. 01:46:708 (61) - you may delete this note for a longer break in the middle of the dense kiai.
  11. 01:48:042 (65) - I think you may have missed the finish here ?
  12. 01:58:708 (89) - again, the difficulty jump compared to Kantan is too big here. Deleting this note would help reduce it.
  13. 02:02:708 (99,100) - same as Kantan
  • [Muzukashii]
  1. 00:02:708 (3) - maybe d as you did in Futsuu ?
  2. 00:30:042 (90) - consider removing finish here ? It sounds a bit overemphasized imo.
  3. 00:33:042 (99,101) - swapping these notes to k d would reflect the pitch drop nicely.
  4. 00:52:042 (147) - maybe k as you did in Futsuu ?
  5. 00:52:708 - you may add d here to make this part a bit denser than Futsuu.
  6. 00:59:625 (172) - move to 00:59:458 - to follow the special sound there ?
  7. 01:12:042 (223) - same as Futsuu
  8. 01:23:930 (249) - this note sounds a bit redundant in this calm session. Maybe remove it ?
  • [Oni]
  1. 00:28:875 (110) - k would be better as the pitch of music remains high.
  2. 00:32:042 (125) - you may add finish as you did in Muzukashii.
  3. 00:34:042 (133) - same as ^
  4. 00:38:042 (151) - changing this note to K would emphasize the stressed sound there properly.
  5. 00:48:042 (178) - same as 00:32:042 (125) -
  6. 00:59:375 (223,224,225,226) - similar to Muzukashii, maybe try kkk d instead of k ddd ?
  7. 01:25:042 (338) - it would be better to change this note to k to keep it the same as Inner Oni.
  8. 02:13:439 (514) - similar to ^ , d would be better.
  9. 02:15:608 (519,520) - maybe k d for pattern consistency as Muzukashii ?
  • [Inner Oni]
  1. 00:03:930 (8) - maybe d as you did in Oni ?
  2. 00:35:792 - add d and 00:35:958 - add k so that this part would be harder than Oni.
  3. 00:38:042 (208) - same as Oni
  4. 00:42:042 (221) - you may use d here to keep the pattern consistent with Oni.
  5. 00:56:042 (274) - similar to ^ , K would be better.
  6. 01:05:042 (358) and 01:06:042 (361) - consider adding finish here for the strong cymbal ?
  7. 01:16:042 (445) - I think you may have missed the finish here ?
  8. 01:17:708 (449) - same as 00:03:930 (8) -
  9. 01:23:375 (464,465,466,467) - similar to ^ , k d dk would sound nicer.
  10. 01:29:708 (479,481) - changing these notes to k would accompany the rhythm in a way better.
  11. 01:34:510 - the timing point here could be removed as it is unnecessary.
  12. 01:57:875 (642) - maybe move this note to 01:57:930 - to follow the music there ? You may add d at 01:57:819 - as well to cohere with 01:43:819 (558) -
  13. 02:10:548 (692) - same as 00:03:930 (8) -
  14. 02:15:608 (702,703) - same suggestion as Oni
  15. 02:20:668 - add d and change 02:21:029 (716) - to k as you did in Oni ?
You may call me back after that~ :D
Topic Starter
-xNaCLx-

Lugei wrote:

(初次mod)英文差 用中文mod sorry :o

Inner oni
00:00:042 - 00:15:930 可用x1.5速度// 不太想變速因為這首歌也不算太快再減慢的話有點怪
00:15:708 (45,46,47) - 可改走第46同47音 //這裡有點聲音想保留著
01:14:042 - 01:15:208 建議用spinner 因為個段較為細聲 //我覺得可以map . _.
01:16:042 - 01:32:042 同樣可用x1.5速度 令譜面有特色啲(好似係 :? //^
01:32:042 (483) - 可改為藍音//因為靜想keep返全紅pattern
01:33:042 - 01:34:042 可改為這樣 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5092048 另外可用x2.0速度 //^
02:04:042 - 02:27:897 又可用x1.5速度(連埋spinner) 原因同上//^

希望以上淺見可以幫到你 :oops: 下次會再mod其他難度 :)
thanks for mod :)
Topic Starter
-xNaCLx-

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Hi, here is the M4M as requested.

[General]

Disable widescreen support from Kantan to Oni as there exists no storyboard.

  • [Kantan]

    Maybe HP+1 and OD-1 so that players could not pass the map with low accuracy. ok
  1. 00:13:708 (18) - you may want to remove this note to make the break consistent with 00:05:708 - //there's the high pitch at 00:13:042 (17) - makes me want to add some changes here
  2. 00:15:708 (21) - consider deleting this note for simplicity ? d D in 1/2 would be quite demanding for Kantan. ok :3
  3. 00:29:042 (41) - k would be better as the pitch of music is the same as 00:28:042 (40) - fixed
  4. 00:36:042 (52) - maybe change this to d ? It sounds a bit overemphasized imo. right, consider that i dont have finish for the other two
  5. 00:39:042 (57) - this note could be removed for a 3/1 break. Currently patterns are mapped in a way too consecutive, which is not favourable for beginners. ok
  6. 00:42:375 (61) - although the song BPM is low, it would be better to delete this note to avoid long 1/2 pattern in Kantan. ok T_T
  7. 00:50:375 (73) - same as ^
  8. 00:55:042 (81,82,83) - similar to 00:39:042 (57) - , these notes could be deleted for another 3/1 break. good :3
  9. 01:12:375 (109,110) - maybe delete these notes as well ? They look rather unnecessary and add too much to difficulty. maybe only the first one
  10. 01:33:708 (22) and 01:36:375 (27) - same as 00:42:375 (61) - fixed
  11. 01:47:042 (44,45,46) - same as 00:55:042 (81,82,83) - fixed
  12. 01:50:375 (51) - same as 00:42:375 (61) - fixed
  13. 01:57:708 (63) - consider removing this note to keep the break consistent with 01:43:708 - ? //it's quite clear that there's a note here so i would keep it
  14. 02:02:708 (72,73) - swapping these notes to d k would fit the pitch increase well. //i think the pitch of the melody is decreasing?
  15. 02:11:632 (83,84) - same as 00:39:042 (57) - fixed
  • [Futsuu]

    Similar to Kantan, Maybe HP+1 ? ok
  1. 00:04:375 (7) - consider deleting this note for a better spread with Kantan ? It is as dense as Muzukashii at the moment.
  2. 00:07:375 (14) - 00:12:375 (24) and 00:15:375 (31) - same as ^ remapped a little bit so that the density is lower but instead i removed the first note of the 5 1/2 notes and some more notes as I dont want to create too many 2 notes pattern which sounds boring
  3. 00:39:708 (92) - similar to ^ , this note could be removed to balance the difficulty gap with Kantan. fixed
  4. 00:56:042 (121) - maybe add finish as you did in Kantan ? fixed
  5. 00:59:708 (132,133) - you may swap these notes to d k to follow the pitch increase there. fixed
  6. 01:11:542 (165) and 01:11:875 (167) - these two notes should be deleted for a better spread with Kantan. Then you may add finish at 01:12:042 (168) - to cohere with 01:10:042 (160) - fixed
  7. 01:12:375 (169) - it would be better to delete this note for a break like in Muzukashii. fixed
  8. 01:21:375 (12) - same as 00:04:375 (7) - fixed in the way i did above
  9. 01:25:875 (20) - this note sounds a bit redundant in this calm session. Maybe remove it ? fixed
  10. 01:46:708 (61) - you may delete this note for a longer break in the middle of the dense kiai. fixed
  11. 01:48:042 (65) - I think you may have missed the finish here ? yep
  12. 01:58:708 (89) - again, the difficulty jump compared to Kantan is too big here. Deleting this note would help reduce it. fixed and added some changes
  13. 02:02:708 (99,100) - same as Kantan //^
  • [Muzukashii]
  1. 00:02:708 (3) - maybe d as you did in Futsuu ? //i kind of like to use repeated pattern for lower diff. cuz that might be "easier", but i want to make the pattern more diverse here
  2. 00:30:042 (90) - consider removing finish here ? It sounds a bit overemphasized imo. fixed
  3. 00:33:042 (99,101) - swapping these notes to k d would reflect the pitch drop nicely. //99 to 100 is a huge increase in pitch and even 101 have a higher pitch than 99
  4. 00:52:042 (147) - maybe k as you did in Futsuu ? fixed//no as I added d below and the melody here is different and i prefer a different pattern
  5. 00:52:708 - you may add d here to make this part a bit denser than Futsuu. fixed
  6. 00:59:625 (172) - move to 00:59:458 - to follow the special sound there ? fixed
  7. 01:12:042 (223) - same as Futsuu fixed
  8. 01:23:930 (249) - this note sounds a bit redundant in this calm session. Maybe remove it ? //although its still calm but its sightly more energetic than the previous bar so i think this note is quite good to show the change
  • [Oni]
  1. 00:28:875 (110) - k would be better as the pitch of music remains high. //i still feel like the sound here is not as strong as the two before so i'd prefer d
  2. 00:32:042 (125) - you may add finish as you did in Muzukashii. fixed
  3. 00:34:042 (133) - same as ^[ color=#0000FF]fixed[/color]
  4. 00:38:042 (151) - changing this note to K would emphasize the stressed sound there properly. fixed
  5. 00:48:042 (178) - same as 00:32:042 (125) - fixed
  6. 00:59:375 (223,224,225,226) - similar to Muzukashii, maybe try kkk d instead of k ddd ? changed to d ddk
  7. 01:25:042 (338) - it would be better to change this note to k to keep it the same as Inner Oni. fixed
  8. 02:13:439 (514) - similar to ^ , d would be better. fixed
  9. 02:15:608 (519,520) - maybe k d for pattern consistency as Muzukashii ? //hmm i would prefer this pattern more so i made some changes to muzukashii instead.
  • [Inner Oni]
  1. 00:03:930 (8) - maybe d as you did in Oni ? //like above i want the pattern to be more diverse
  2. 00:35:792 - add d and 00:35:958 - add k so that this part would be harder than Oni. fixed
  3. 00:38:042 (208) - same as Oni fixed
  4. 00:42:042 (221) - you may use d here to keep the pattern consistent with Oni. fixed
  5. 00:56:042 (274) - similar to ^ , K would be better. fixed
  6. 01:05:042 (358) and 01:06:042 (361) - consider adding finish here for the strong cymbal ? yepyep
  7. 01:16:042 (445) - I think you may have missed the finish here ? yup
  8. 01:17:708 (449) - same as 00:03:930 (8) - well yes for here
  9. 01:23:375 (464,465,466,467) - similar to ^ , k d dk would sound nicer. //the melody is actually d d k d in one spacing, imo both fit well
  10. 01:29:708 (479,481) - changing these notes to k would accompany the rhythm in a way better. //the music is so so so calm here i want to keep it all d
  11. 01:34:510 - the timing point here could be removed as it is unnecessary. lol it's not here before, maybe i added it accidentally in some update
  12. 01:57:875 (642) - maybe move this note to 01:57:930 - to follow the music there ? You may add d at 01:57:819 - as well to cohere with 01:43:819 (558) - //it seems to be a note between the 1/4 and 1/6 and i think 1/4 fits better consider the 1/4 stream at 01:58:375 -
  13. 02:10:548 (692) - same as 00:03:930 (8) - //changed the one in Oni instead as i want to keep the k for the high pitch
  14. 02:15:608 (702,703) - same suggestion as Oni //same
  15. 02:20:668 - add d and change 02:21:029 (716) - to k as you did in Oni ? fixed
You may call me back after that~ :D
thanks for mod :D
Nardoxyribonucleic
The set looks fine now with an appropriate spread. More rest moments are incorporated into the lower difficulties and pattern arrangement is quite nice.

Bubbled~
Topic Starter
-xNaCLx-

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

The set looks fine now with an appropriate spread. More rest moments are incorporated into the lower difficulties and pattern arrangement is quite nice.

Bubbled~
\:D/ yay~
Nwolf
"there are so many bubbled maps and you decide to rank something bubbled 5 hours ago, shame on you!!!"

For reference: I call all 1/2 notes 1/1, all 1/4 notes 1/2 etc. This is because I consider sakuzyo baka and this song 180 BPM even though officially it's not C:
Note: I might have screwed up and used 1/8 and 1/12 after all.

[General]

I honestly think that the volume is incredibly low compared to the song, so I'd suggest increasing the hitsound volume in the loud parts by 20%. Maybe in some others too, that's up to you. Maybe we should do this in IRC tomorrow lel
--> Spinner doesn't really have to be that much louder. Try 30% for it anyway

02:04:042 - You've got two different volumes here. I'd go with 40%, then it's the same as 01:16:042 -
--> Please note this does not consider any potential increase in volume. If you increase volume, use the same between these two parts. Here I wouldn't increase volume though.

01:32:042 - On all diffs: Would be nice to remove this note, I think. It doesn't belong to the melody and gives all diffs a fitting break. Then the focus also stays on the melody.

[Kantan]

00:36:708 (52,54) - To make a slightly larger gap to Futsuu, I'd suggest to remove either both notes or only 54. Will also decrease the difficulty a little bit as there's four 1/1 doublets atm.
00:40:042 (56) - Feels like this would be nice as a big note, like 00:24:042 (33) - 00:16:042 (21) -
00:59:708 (83) - Even though it's following a present sound, I think it would fit the map much more nicely 01:00:708 - here (maybe as a kat) because then 00:56:042 (77,78,79,80,81,82) - these six notes form a clear pattern and the two doublets would be like the next stage of pattern-ness.
01:33:042 (20,21) - hmmm personally I think a slider/spinner works more nicely here to follow the harp insanity.
01:41:042 (33) - Higher pitch than 01:40:042 (32) - so consider kat. Next note is kat too, yes, but it's emphasized by being big.
02:02:708 (66,67) - Delete these notes. Would let the kiai end nicely on 02:02:042 (65) - and also break the 3/1 continuity here, giving more presence to these last notes in the 83 BPM section. If you lead into them with the same rhythm it feels boring imho.


[Futsuu]

00:17:042 - 00:19:042 - 00:21:042 - 00:23:042 - could all have notes added as the gap to Muzukashii is pretty big and small to Kantan. It's not as bad in other parts but I doubt they can even this out.
00:24:375 (42) - And theeen delete this, so upcoming unmapped melody notes like 00:29:375 - 00:30:375 - and especially 00:32:375 - become less noteworthy. Also gives a break after the, with the above change, more intense kiai.
00:36:042 (77,79) - Are both finishers, so 00:38:042 (81) - should be a finisher too, right?
00:40:042 (84) - Same as Kantan
00:50:542 (102) - This is literally the same as Muzukashii, so this should be deleted.
00:52:042 (106) - Consider changing this to don so the next kat 00:53:042 (107) - feels more special and the pitch change becomes noticeable.
01:02:375 - Picture here cause omg changes


Basically, following the rhythm 00:57:708 (117,118,119,120,121,122) - here more and avoiding a 180 BPM 1/2 finisher 01:03:708 (135,136) - here because that's cruel for Futsuu.

01:16:708 (2) - Remove this note as it is not present 00:02:708 - here. This part needs to stay calm.
01:23:042 (13,14,15) - Probably a better idea to remove all these notes. Futsuu could use this one rest moment pretty nicely and these are, to me, very unimportant notes. If not removing all, delete most (14/15).
01:47:042 (58) - Consider changing this to kat, then the don becomes more noticeable.
01:58:042 (83,84,85,86,87,88,89) - pretty sad this isn't mapped like 01:44:042 (53,54,55,56,57) - .
02:06:572 - Missing note here? Other diffs are pretty much as intense as the similar parts.
02:11:632 (104) - Could be deleted. Then there's a break in Futsuu again and the upcoming kats are emphasized but it's not that important.


[Muzukashii]

00:15:875 (35) - This note is pretty unnecessary and just covers up 00:16:042 (36) - , could be deleted
00:40:042 (121) - Same as Kantan/Futsuu
01:01:542 - Add a note here, as there is one 00:57:542 (164) - here. Song feels a little undermapped after the 2/1 break.
01:09:292 (211) - Fits nicer 01:09:125 - here imo.
--> move 01:11:292 (219) - to 01:11:125 - here.
Remove 01:33:292 (269) - , Futsuu only has 1/1 notes here. Gap is too big
02:00:042 (358) - Should be a finisher, considering 01:58:042 (350,351,353) -

[Oni]

00:15:819 (43,44) - Same as Inner Oni
00:40:042 (156) - Blah
01:13:542 (310) - Would fit nicer as don to signal the fall in pitch.
01:33:292 (356) - Move 01:33:125 - to here so the notes are placed on the spots where the harp makes audible fast notes.
01:59:458 (475,476) - What are these snapped to? The piano stays 1/6, it doesn't change 1/8->1/6

[Inner Oni]

00:15:819 (46,47) - If these were gone, the start of the kiai was emphasized much better C:
00:40:042 (219) - Blah Blah
01:14:958 (443) - 01:15:125 (445) - for me this stream flows so much nicer if these are kats.
01:33:041 (486,487,488,489) - I really think you should change this into being 1/8 too. I get that you get an "accelerated" feeling or something, and that this is mapped to the harp; but then you would have to put 1/12 01:33:375 - and 01:33:708 - here. Which wouldn't be a good idea. So yeah keep 1/8 pls.
01:59:375 (652,653,654,655,656) - Same as Oni. Remove 01:59:625 (655) - and change the rest into 1/6.


fuck I'm tired it's midnight

maybe ask Nardo for a rebub after you applied changes, maybe he considers the changes on lower diffs as a lot. Call me back~
Topic Starter
-xNaCLx-

Nwolf wrote:

"there are so many bubbled maps and you decide to rank something bubbled 5 hours ago, shame on you!!!"

For reference: I call all 1/2 notes 1/1, all 1/4 notes 1/2 etc. This is because I consider sakuzyo baka and this song 180 BPM even though officially it's not C:
Note: I might have screwed up and used 1/8 and 1/12 after all.
sakuzyo is not baka :( this map is 90bpm as its compound duple, just osu is baka and cannot make it

[General]

I honestly think that the volume is incredibly low compared to the song, so I'd suggest increasing the hitsound volume in the loud parts by 20%. Maybe in some others too, that's up to you. Maybe we should do this in IRC tomorrow lel
--> Spinner doesn't really have to be that much louder. Try 30% for it anyway
hmm..i'm not very sure because i usually prefer lower hitsound and it seems fine to me
02:04:042 - You've got two different volumes here. I'd go with 40%, then it's the same as 01:16:042 -
--> Please note this does not consider any potential increase in volume. If you increase volume, use the same between these two parts. Here I wouldn't increase volume though. yea this is interesting, fixed to 30% as i feel like it should be softer at the end

01:32:042 - On all diffs: Would be nice to remove this note, I think. It doesn't belong to the melody and gives all diffs a fitting break. Then the focus also stays on the melody. //i feel like sakuzyo did a great job here removing all other sounds but only the ticking sound that acts like a count down to the final part and i want to put notes here. plus the density before here is super low and that already serve as a break imo

[Kantan]

00:36:708 (52,54) - To make a slightly larger gap to Futsuu, I'd suggest to remove either both notes or only 54. Will also decrease the difficulty a little bit as there's four 1/1 doublets atm. deleted 00:35:708 (50) - instead as that keep consistency better
00:40:042 (56) - Feels like this would be nice as a big note, like 00:24:042 (33) - 00:16:042 (21) - //i think neither the part before nor after is strong enough for me to put the finish here
00:59:708 (83) - Even though it's following a present sound, I think it would fit the map much more nicely 01:00:708 - here (maybe as a kat) because then 00:56:042 (77,78,79,80,81,82) - these six notes form a clear pattern and the two doublets would be like the next stage of pattern-ness. //what i think is that the melody here is quite compact, you can see the sentence "ends" at 00:59:042 - but the new sentence starts at 00:59:375 - already, it is feel where "this sentence is ended but the next is closely following it", and imo this can keep up the feel that "this is not only a new sentence, but one that follows tightly to the one before"
01:33:042 (20,21) - hmmm personally I think a slider/spinner works more nicely here to follow the harp insanity. //but such short slider/spinner don't fit in kantan :(
01:41:042 (33) - Higher pitch than 01:40:042 (32) - so consider kat. Next note is kat too, yes, but it's emphasized by being big. //still want the emphasize from different colour
02:02:708 (66,67) - Delete these notes. Would let the kiai end nicely on 02:02:042 (65) - and also break the 3/1 continuity here, giving more presence to these last notes in the 83 BPM section. If you lead into them with the same rhythm it feels boring imho. //but these notes are quite important as they serve as an echo to the part before at 02:00:042 - ...


[Futsuu]

00:17:042 - 00:19:042 - 00:21:042 - 00:23:042 - could all have notes added as the gap to Muzukashii is pretty big and small to Kantan. It's not as bad in other parts but I doubt they can even this out. //but adding these doesn't fit the flow ._. and its too dense for futsuu as well imo
00:24:375 (42) - And theeen delete this, so upcoming unmapped melody notes like 00:29:375 - 00:30:375 - and especially 00:32:375 - become less noteworthy. Also gives a break after the, with the above change, more intense kiai. //actually i just used two different patterns to map this part, maybe you can check it again.
00:36:042 (77,79) - Are both finishers, so 00:38:042 (81) - should be a finisher too, right? yep
00:40:042 (84) - Same as Kantan //^
00:50:542 (102) - This is literally the same as Muzukashii, so this should be deleted. changed to d ddd k as this keep consistent with the later part
00:52:042 (106) - Consider changing this to don so the next kat 00:53:042 (107) - feels more special and the pitch change becomes noticeable. //imo they give a similar feel so ima keep it the same
01:02:375 - Picture here cause omg changes


Basically, following the rhythm 00:57:708 (117,118,119,120,121,122) - here more and avoiding a 180 BPM 1/2 finisher 01:03:708 (135,136) - here because that's cruel for Futsuu.
moved 01:03:875 (135) - to 01:03:208 - to fit the sound as well as keeping the flow
01:16:708 (2) - Remove this note as it is not present 00:02:708 - here. This part needs to stay calm. looks like the reference is changed at the last mod and i didn't notice this, fixed anyway
01:23:042 (13,14,15) - Probably a better idea to remove all these notes. Futsuu could use this one rest moment pretty nicely and these are, to me, very unimportant notes. If not removing all, delete most (14/15). //but it's quite important to me as it is a reply to 01:21:042 (8,9,10,11) - , the melody there is like a question and the notes here are answer to it, you can also see that i used a pattern that only the last note is different to mark their changes
01:47:042 (58) - Consider changing this to kat, then the don becomes more noticeable. //but the pitch keeps increasing lol, why would i want to make the don more noticeable
01:58:042 (83,84,85,86,87,88,89) - pretty sad this isn't mapped like 01:44:042 (53,54,55,56,57) - . //the melody here is much more intense?
02:06:572 - Missing note here? Other diffs are pretty much as intense as the similar parts. added 02:09:825 - as well
02:11:632 (104) - Could be deleted. Then there's a break in Futsuu again and the upcoming kats are emphasized but it's not that important. //but i didn't give a break that long over the map so i don't think its necessary


[Muzukashii]

00:15:875 (35) - This note is pretty unnecessary and just covers up 00:16:042 (36) - , could be deleted //imo it gives a nice push to the kiai
00:40:042 (121) - Same as Kantan/Futsuu //^
01:01:542 - Add a note here, as there is one 00:57:542 (164) - here. Song feels a little undermapped after the 2/1 break. fixed
01:09:292 (211) - Fits nicer 01:09:125 - here imo.
--> move 01:11:292 (219) - to 01:11:125 - here. //I don't know how to say but to me, kkk k gives a feel that it ends at the last k, but the ringringring sound keeps going until the next d, and k kkk seems to be expressing the feel better
Remove 01:33:292 (269) - , Futsuu only has 1/1 notes here. Gap is too big //but both adding notes in futsuu and full 1/2 stream here sounds odd to me.. deleted 01:33:875 - instead
02:00:042 (358) - Should be a finisher, considering 01:58:042 (350,351,353) - fixed

[Oni]

00:15:819 (43,44) - Same as Inner Oni //leaving it empty seems weird to me x_x
00:40:042 (156) - Blah //^
01:13:542 (310) - Would fit nicer as don to signal the fall in pitch. //there's the kat kat katkatkat sound at the background
01:33:292 (356) - Move 01:33:125 - to here so the notes are placed on the spots where the harp makes audible fast notes. fixed
01:59:458 (475,476) - What are these snapped to? The piano stays 1/6, it doesn't change 1/8->1/6 //i want the hard beat sound at 01:59:542 (476) - and i still want to add a note between this and 01:59:375 (474) - so i chose 1/8 as i dont want to see 1/12 in oni.. ////after discussion with nardo it seems like the rhythm here is x_x__x__x in 1/16 spacing.... well i chose to keep it as 1/6 for the second part as that would be more simple, but the first part as i mentioned above i want a note to be on that hard beat so i would keep it like this

[Inner Oni]

00:15:819 (46,47) - If these were gone, the start of the kiai was emphasized much better C: //^
00:40:042 (219) - Blah Blah //^
01:14:958 (443) - 01:15:125 (445) - for me this stream flows so much nicer if these are kats. //i only get the high pitch at the middle k ._.
01:33:041 (486,487,488,489) - I really think you should change this into being 1/8 too. I get that you get an "accelerated" feeling or something, and that this is mapped to the harp; but then you would have to put 1/12 01:33:375 - and 01:33:708 - here. Which wouldn't be a good idea. So yeah keep 1/8 pls. //actually the original version have it followed the harp and with 1/12 from 01:33:375 - to 01:34:042 - , which i feel is too many, but i still at least want to keep a small part as 1/12 so i left this as it is kind of "separated" from the 1/12 after it.
01:59:375 (652,653,654,655,656) - Same as Oni. Remove 01:59:625 (655) - and change the rest into 1/6. hmm i made it 1/12, lets see how it works out


fuck I'm tired it's midnight おつかれ:3

maybe ask Nardo for a rebub after you applied changes, maybe he considers the changes on lower diffs as a lot. Call me back~
Thanks for mod :)
Nardoxyribonucleic
Checked the changes applied in the set. They look reasonable to me.

  • Additional changes upon discussing with NCL are as follows:
  1. Futsuu - Added the missing finish at 00:38:042 (81) - for consistency.
  2. Muzukashii - Deleted the note at 01:33:875 - to balance the spread from Futsuu to Oni.
Rebubbled~
Nwolf
talked a little bit in IRC

take my BN² qualify virginity

~
riktoi
Shouldn't the source rather be one of the rhythm games it was included in? As G2R2014 is a BMS event wouldn't changing it to BMS be more fitting?

Quoted from the Song setup wiki:
Not every song needs something in the "Source" field. The source is only for songs that are "from" something, such as a video game theme song, or something from the soundtrack of an anime. Regular rock and pop songs can just leave the source field blank.
Also there is already a ranked map with "BMS" as source by Kuo Kyoka.
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/767308
Topic Starter
-xNaCLx-

riktoi wrote:

Shouldn't the source rather be one of the rhythm games it was included in? As G2R2014 is a BMS event wouldn't changing it to BMS be more fitting?

Quoted from the Song setup wiki:
Not every song needs something in the "Source" field. The source is only for songs that are "from" something, such as a video game theme song, or something from the soundtrack of an anime. Regular rock and pop songs can just leave the source field blank.
right, fixing it soon
Blocko
Disqualified upon request from the mapper.
riktoi

-xNaCLx- wrote:

right, fixing it soon
Hope you get qualified again soon!
Nardoxyribonucleic
I thought G2R2014 was a kind of arcade game lol.

Rechecked everything and the set should be fine now.

Rebubbled~
Akasha-
Wow, another Altale
You can add more tags like: of fighters 2014 bof2014 g2r2014 go back to your roots レオル カタストロフィー理論
wish you best, good luck

ninja'd
Topic Starter
-xNaCLx-

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

I thought G2R2014 was a kind of arcade game lol.

Rechecked everything and the set should be fine now.

Rebubbled~
\:D/ yay~

Kuo Kyoka wrote:

Wow, another Altale
You ca add more tags like: of fighters 2014 bof2014 g2r2014 go back to your roots レオル カタストロフィー理論
wish you best, good luck
thanks! :D and I love your mania set as well =w=
Nwolf
ok now, also asked the mapper two times if he's really sure he doesn't want to change anything


he's not. :^)
Akasha-
Congratulation
riktoi
\o/
Topic Starter
-xNaCLx-

Nwolf wrote:

ok now, also asked the mapper two times if he's really sure he doesn't want to change anything


he's not. :^)

picture support lolz

well anyway YAAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY \:D/
Topic Starter
-xNaCLx-
Thanks ALL :D
Charlotte
Congratz :)
5urface
Congrats :3
SKSalt
New NC's map!? oooooo

congrats :)
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