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sakuzyo - Altale [Taiko]

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-xNaCLx-
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 12:50:05 AM

Artist: sakuzyo
Title: Altale
Source: BMS
Tags: deemo rayark of Fighters 2014 BOF2014 G2R2014 GO BACK TO YOUR ROOTS レオル カタストロフィー理論
BPM: 90
Filesize: 2754kb
Play Time: 02:27
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (2.05 stars, 283 notes)
  2. Inner Oni (5.79 stars, 719 notes)
  3. Kantan (1.4 stars, 194 notes)
  4. Muzukashii (2.75 stars, 405 notes)
  5. Oni (3.76 stars, 532 notes)
Download: sakuzyo - Altale
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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>.0
for rank(?)

8/6/2016 bubbled >w<~ AND qualified \:D/ AND disqualified T.T AND bubbled AGAIN >w<~ AND QUALIFIED AGAIN \:D/ (Oh shut up

Nwolf
"deemo", "rayark" in tags pls thx bai
Chromoxx
Hey, noticed this set and i really like the song :D
random mod from my modding spree xD

[Color Code]
VERY IMPORTANT, must be changed in order for the map to be rankable
IMPORTANT pattern issues, issues with note placement/patterns that don't fit the song at all in my opinion and should be changed in my opinion unless you have a very good reason not to
SUGGESTIONS, these would work better in my opinion and should be changed in my opinion unless you have a good reason not to
MINOR SUGGESTIONS, these are usually very minor pattern fixes, that would work better in my opinion but are also fine as they are, feel free to do whatever you want with these, since these are usually entirely objective
[General]
-BG is 1365x768, should be 1366x768!
-Kiai time isn't snapped!
gest seems gud :D
[Kantan]
really nice kantan, nothing i would change! nice one NCL
[Futsuu]
01:52:042 (75) - i would change this to k since the pitch goes up here and they are both high notes :o
nothing else to say, really nice diff :D
[Muzukashii]
00:04:708 (8,9) - ctrl G, the pitch goes down from 8 to 9
01:16:708 (232,233) - either ctrl G or change 233 to k, both notes are high and the pitch goes up from 232 to 233
01:39:708 (290) - i'd change this to d, i think it sound better and also suits the rythm more
02:06:933 (373) - change to k, this note is also high and the pitch change from 373 to 374 is larger than the pitch change from 372 to 373, so it should be emphasized appropriately
rest is good, nice diff! :D
[Oni]
00:04:708 (10) - i'd change to k, since there is no distinct pitch change here and it would sound better
00:22:597 (77,78) - i'd make this monocolor, since i cant hear any pitch change here
01:16:930 (317,318) - either ctrl G or make it kk, the pitch change here isn't really that distinct and 318 sounds a bit higher to me
01:18:708 (323) - i would change this to k, since the pitch change from 323 to 325 is larger than 322 to 323
rest seems good, nice diff again :D
[Comments]
[notice]Really nice song, really nice mapset! :D
I might mod inner later but i have to go now D:
GL with ranking (if you want to rank it xD) and i hope this was helpful, have a star![/notice
Topic Starter
-xNaCLx-
SPOILER

Chromoxx wrote:

Hey, noticed this set and i really like the song :D
random mod from my modding spree xD

[Color Code]
VERY IMPORTANT, must be changed in order for the map to be rankable
IMPORTANT pattern issues, issues with note placement/patterns that don't fit the song at all in my opinion and should be changed in my opinion unless you have a very good reason not to
SUGGESTIONS, these would work better in my opinion and should be changed in my opinion unless you have a good reason not to
MINOR SUGGESTIONS, these are usually very minor pattern fixes, that would work better in my opinion but are also fine as they are, feel free to do whatever you want with these, since these are usually entirely objective
[General]
-BG is 1365x768, should be 1366x768! changed to a 1920x1080 one w
-Kiai time isn't snapped! fixed
gest seems gud :D
[Kantan]
really nice kantan, nothing i would change! nice one NCL
[Futsuu]
01:52:042 (75) - i would change this to k since the pitch goes up here and they are both high notes :o //but the pitch goes down in the inner rhythm
nothing else to say, really nice diff :D
[Muzukashii]
00:04:708 (8,9) - ctrl G, the pitch goes down from 8 to 9 only changed 00:05:042 (9) - to d as i dont like (8) to be k... and also the opposite of 00:06:708 -
01:16:708 (232,233) - either ctrl G or change 233 to k, both notes are high and the pitch goes up from 232 to 233 //hmm...its not?
01:39:708 (290) - i'd change this to d, i think it sound better and also suits the rythm more //i think i used k here through out the map at the same rhythm so no change.
02:06:933 (373) - change to k, this note is also high and the pitch change from 373 to 374 is larger than the pitch change from 372 to 373, so it should be emphasized appropriately //well true but consider the 1/3 beat i would have placed k k d kd, and this sticks so much to my mind and even i removed the 1/3 beat, its still k k d d to me.
rest is good, nice diff! :D
[Oni]
00:04:708 (10) - i'd change to k, since there is no distinct pitch change here and it would sound better //i dont like too much consecutive ks or ds and i guess that's why i dont prefer using k here, and its still fine to me with d.
00:22:597 (77,78) - i'd make this monocolor, since i cant hear any pitch change here //actually yes if you listen to the 1/12 beats?
01:16:930 (317,318) - either ctrl G or make it kk, the pitch change here isn't really that distinct and 318 sounds a bit higher to me //...nope
01:18:708 (323) - i would change this to k, since the pitch change from 323 to 325 is larger than 322 to 323 //as explained above
rest seems good, nice diff again :D
[Comments]
[notice]Really nice song, really nice mapset! :D
I might mod inner later but i have to go now D:
GL with ranking (if you want to rank it xD) and i hope this was helpful, have a star![/notice

thanks for mod :)
Dusk-
I frickin' love this map. Well done :D
5urface
M4M for https://osu.ppy.sh/s/433022

General and Timing

The background image resolution is currently 1365x768. Please fix it to 1366x768
I probably would have timed it at 180 BPM instead of 90
This song isn't in 4/4 time, it's in 3/4 time (Waltz)

Kantan

00:12:042 (15) - k
00:16:042 (22,23,24) - K k k
00:18:042 (25,26) - d d Inverting these 5 notes feels more balanced, there were too many dons in a row
00:30:042 (43) - k
00:34:708 (49) - d
00:45:042 (66) - k
01:14:042 (1) - Remove the spinner to give the players an opportunity to rest, this is a Kantan map after all
01:33:708 (22) - d to give the following K more impact
01:51:708 (54,55) - Ctrl + G
01:56:042 (60) - D
02:00:042 (68) - K

Futsuu

00:33:542 (77) - Remove, there is no strong sound on this note
00:35:375 (82,83,84) - kkd
01:06:042 (151) - K
01:33:708 (35) - Same as Kantan
01:56:708 (84) - d

Muzukashii

00:02:708 (3) - d
01:12:042 (223) - D
01:22:042 (245) - k (to bring it in line with the other difficulties)
01:25:042 (251) - d
01:34:930 (277) - d
01:48:930 (319) - d
01:56:930 (347) - d
01:58:542 (351,352,353) - How about d d d K instead?

Oni

00:02:708 (4) - d
01:46:042 (412) - D
02:06:090 (497) - d

In general it's pretty well mapped and fun to play, good luck with ranking
Topic Starter
-xNaCLx-
SPOILER

5urface wrote:

M4M for https://osu.ppy.sh/s/433022

General and Timing

The background image resolution is currently 1365x768. Please fix it to 1366x768 fixed
I probably would have timed it at 180 BPM instead of 90
This song isn't in 4/4 time, it's in 3/4 time (Waltz) this song isn't in 3/4 time, it's in 6/8 time. And it is not even 4/4 now. and yes it is 90bpm as what the artist says and it happens to be 90bpm

Kantan

00:12:042 (15) - k - keep it d because same pitch as 00:12:708 (16) -
00:16:042 (22,23,24) - K k k
00:18:042 (25,26) - d d Inverting these 5 notes feels more balanced, there were too many dons in a row - imo the all d pattern gives a nice push here, and the D kinda removed the feeling of the ds in a row
00:30:042 (43) - k - i feel like d fits the music flow better
00:34:708 (49) - d - nope its the opposite of 00:32:708 (46) -
00:45:042 (66) - k - have no idea why
01:14:042 (1) - Remove the spinner to give the players an opportunity to rest, this is a Kantan map after all - shortened the spinner, i wont leave this empty.
01:33:708 (22) - d to give the following K more impact - it fits the melody better
01:51:708 (54,55) - Ctrl + G - although the melody is different but the feeling and the background melody is still the same as 01:37:708 (30,31) -
01:56:042 (60) - D - again no idea
02:00:042 (68) - K - same as above

Futsuu

00:33:542 (77) - Remove, there is no strong sound on this note - if i changed this then i need to delete way more notes than only this
00:35:375 (82,83,84) - kkd - tryna make it opposite of 00:33:375 (76,77,78) -
01:06:042 (151) - K - same as kantan
01:33:708 (35) - Same as Kantan - same as kantan
01:56:708 (84) - d - again i think it gives a nice push

Muzukashii

00:02:708 (3) - d - same and btw, i think it would be too boring to give all these a "dk" pattern
01:12:042 (223) - D - hmm it gives a going feel?
01:22:042 (245) - k (to bring it in line with the other difficulties) - fixed
01:25:042 (251) - d - wanna make it different
01:34:930 (277) - d
01:48:930 (319) - d
01:56:930 (347) - d - basically i avoided the use of dk 1/6 pattern in muzukashii map so
01:58:542 (351,352,353) - How about d d d K instead? - combine with the dk before imo this makes the flow better

Oni

00:02:708 (4) - d - same as muzu
01:46:042 (412) - D - imo K fits the ongoing feel more
02:06:090 (497) - d - fixed

In general it's pretty well mapped and fun to play, good luck with ranking

thanks for the mod :)
Canner
Hi from m4m
[Kantan]
00:15:708 (21) - k? high pitch than 20 and 22.
00:42:375 (61) - delete? don't suggest using 1/1 too much in here.
00:50:375 (73) - same as above
00:55:375 (82) - same as above
01:04:042 (97) - finish? 98, 99, 101, 102 all are finish note but why this is not
01:12:375 (109) - delete? same as 61
01:36:375 (27) - delete? same as above
01:44:542 (40,42) - delete? its a little hard for kantan i think
01:47:375 (45) - delete? and 01:47:708 (46) - change into d?
01:50:375 (51) - same as above
01:51:708 (54,55) - ctrl+G? 55 is high pitch than 54
01:58:542 (65,67) - delete? its a little hard for kantan i think
02:02:708 (72,73) - ctrl+G? same as 54,55.

[Muzukashii]
00:26:375 - here should be the same as 00:28:375 - here.
00:37:042 (113) - change into d? its the same as 115.
00:58:708 - why here is empty? should add a note
01:04:042 (193,197) - why 200 and 203 are finish but this two are not?
01:10:708 (214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222,223) - a little long for muzu because of 1/4. you can delete 218 or 215.
01:33:875 (273) - delete? reason is the same as above.
01:40:375 (292,293,294,295) - 01:41:375 (297,298,299,300) - don't suggest using this in muzu. you can delete 293 and if you do that, delete 298 and 299.
01:54:375 (336,337,338,339) - 01:55:375 (341,342,343,344) - same as above.

[Oni]
fine. i can't find anything to mod.
that's all.if you don't have my map, click this
CosMo@BousouP - Oceanus

Good luck!
Topic Starter
-xNaCLx-
SPOILER

Canner wrote:

Hi from m4m
[Kantan]
00:15:708 (21) - k? high pitch than 20 and 22. - imo the all d pattern gives a nice push
00:42:375 (61) - delete? don't suggest using 1/1 too much in here. - needa discuss this with other first :) hold
00:50:375 (73) - same as above -^
00:55:375 (82) - same as above -^
01:04:042 (97) - finish? 98, 99, 101, 102 all are finish note but why this is not - fixed
01:12:375 (109) - delete? same as 61 -^
01:36:375 (27) - delete? same as above -^
01:44:542 (40,42) - delete? its a little hard for kantan i think -^
01:47:375 (45) - delete? and 01:47:708 (46) - change into d? -^
01:50:375 (51) - same as above -^
01:51:708 (54,55) - ctrl+G? 55 is high pitch than 54 - im following the background melody
01:58:542 (65,67) - delete? its a little hard for kantan i think -^
02:02:708 (72,73) - ctrl+G? same as 54,55. - not even the main melody is at higher pitch

[Muzukashii]
00:26:375 - here should be the same as 00:28:375 - here. - deleted 00:24:375 (67) - instead
00:37:042 (113) - change into d? its the same as 115. - ...its not
00:58:708 - why here is empty? should add a note - break break break
01:04:042 (193,197) - why 200 and 203 are finish but this two are not? - fixed
01:10:708 (214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222,223) - a little long for muzu because of 1/4. you can delete 218 or 215. -^
01:33:875 (273) - delete? reason is the same as above. -^
01:40:375 (292,293,294,295) - 01:41:375 (297,298,299,300) - don't suggest using this in muzu. you can delete 293 and if you do that, delete 298 and 299. -^
01:54:375 (336,337,338,339) - 01:55:375 (341,342,343,344) - same as above. -^

[Oni]
fine. i can't find anything to mod.
that's all.if you don't have my map, click this
CosMo@BousouP - Oceanus

Good luck!

thanks :)
Lugei
(初次mod)英文差 用中文mod sorry :o

Inner oni
00:00:042 - 00:15:930 可用x1.5速度
00:15:708 (45,46,47) - 可改走第46同47音
01:14:042 - 01:15:208 建議用spinner 因為個段較為細聲
01:16:042 - 01:32:042 同樣可用x1.5速度 令譜面有特色啲(好似係 :?
01:32:042 (483) - 可改為藍音
01:33:042 - 01:34:042 可改為這樣 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5092048 另外可用x2.0速度
02:04:042 - 02:27:897 又可用x1.5速度(連埋spinner) 原因同上

希望以上淺見可以幫到你 :oops: 下次會再mod其他難度 :)
Nardoxyribonucleic
Hi, here is the M4M as requested.

[General]

Disable widescreen support from Kantan to Oni as there exists no storyboard.

  • [Kantan]

    Maybe HP+1 and OD-1 so that players could not pass the map with low accuracy.
  1. 00:13:708 (18) - you may want to remove this note to make the break consistent with 00:05:708 -
  2. 00:15:708 (21) - consider deleting this note for simplicity ? d D in 1/2 would be quite demanding for Kantan.
  3. 00:29:042 (41) - k would be better as the pitch of music is the same as 00:28:042 (40) -
  4. 00:36:042 (52) - maybe change this to d ? It sounds a bit overemphasized imo.
  5. 00:39:042 (57) - this note could be removed for a 3/1 break. Currently patterns are mapped in a way too consecutive, which is not favourable for beginners.
  6. 00:42:375 (61) - although the song BPM is low, it would be better to delete this note to avoid long 1/2 pattern in Kantan.
  7. 00:50:375 (73) - same as ^
  8. 00:55:042 (81,82,83) - similar to 00:39:042 (57) - , these notes could be deleted for another 3/1 break.
  9. 01:12:375 (109,110) - maybe delete these notes as well ? They look rather unnecessary and add too much to difficulty.
  10. 01:33:708 (22) and 01:36:375 (27) - same as 00:42:375 (61) -
  11. 01:47:042 (44,45,46) - same as 00:55:042 (81,82,83) -
  12. 01:50:375 (51) - same as 00:42:375 (61) -
  13. 01:57:708 (63) - consider removing this note to keep the break consistent with 01:43:708 - ?
  14. 02:02:708 (72,73) - swapping these notes to d k would fit the pitch increase well.
  15. 02:11:632 (83,84) - same as 00:39:042 (57) -
  • [Futsuu]

    Similar to Kantan, Maybe HP+1 ?
  1. 00:04:375 (7) - consider deleting this note for a better spread with Kantan ? It is as dense as Muzukashii at the moment.
  2. 00:07:375 (14) - 00:12:375 (24) and 00:15:375 (31) - same as ^
  3. 00:39:708 (92) - similar to ^ , this note could be removed to balance the difficulty gap with Kantan.
  4. 00:56:042 (121) - maybe add finish as you did in Kantan ?
  5. 00:59:708 (132,133) - you may swap these notes to d k to follow the pitch increase there.
  6. 01:11:542 (165) and 01:11:875 (167) - these two notes should be deleted for a better spread with Kantan. Then you may add finish at 01:12:042 (168) - to cohere with 01:10:042 (160) -
  7. 01:12:375 (169) - it would be better to delete this note for a break like in Muzukashii.
  8. 01:21:375 (12) - same as 00:04:375 (7) -
  9. 01:25:875 (20) - this note sounds a bit redundant in this calm session. Maybe remove it ?
  10. 01:46:708 (61) - you may delete this note for a longer break in the middle of the dense kiai.
  11. 01:48:042 (65) - I think you may have missed the finish here ?
  12. 01:58:708 (89) - again, the difficulty jump compared to Kantan is too big here. Deleting this note would help reduce it.
  13. 02:02:708 (99,100) - same as Kantan
  • [Muzukashii]
  1. 00:02:708 (3) - maybe d as you did in Futsuu ?
  2. 00:30:042 (90) - consider removing finish here ? It sounds a bit overemphasized imo.
  3. 00:33:042 (99,101) - swapping these notes to k d would reflect the pitch drop nicely.
  4. 00:52:042 (147) - maybe k as you did in Futsuu ?
  5. 00:52:708 - you may add d here to make this part a bit denser than Futsuu.
  6. 00:59:625 (172) - move to 00:59:458 - to follow the special sound there ?
  7. 01:12:042 (223) - same as Futsuu
  8. 01:23:930 (249) - this note sounds a bit redundant in this calm session. Maybe remove it ?
  • [Oni]
  1. 00:28:875 (110) - k would be better as the pitch of music remains high.
  2. 00:32:042 (125) - you may add finish as you did in Muzukashii.
  3. 00:34:042 (133) - same as ^
  4. 00:38:042 (151) - changing this note to K would emphasize the stressed sound there properly.
  5. 00:48:042 (178) - same as 00:32:042 (125) -
  6. 00:59:375 (223,224,225,226) - similar to Muzukashii, maybe try kkk d instead of k ddd ?
  7. 01:25:042 (338) - it would be better to change this note to k to keep it the same as Inner Oni.
  8. 02:13:439 (514) - similar to ^ , d would be better.
  9. 02:15:608 (519,520) - maybe k d for pattern consistency as Muzukashii ?
  • [Inner Oni]
  1. 00:03:930 (8) - maybe d as you did in Oni ?
  2. 00:35:792 - add d and 00:35:958 - add k so that this part would be harder than Oni.
  3. 00:38:042 (208) - same as Oni
  4. 00:42:042 (221) - you may use d here to keep the pattern consistent with Oni.
  5. 00:56:042 (274) - similar to ^ , K would be better.
  6. 01:05:042 (358) and 01:06:042 (361) - consider adding finish here for the strong cymbal ?
  7. 01:16:042 (445) - I think you may have missed the finish here ?
  8. 01:17:708 (449) - same as 00:03:930 (8) -
  9. 01:23:375 (464,465,466,467) - similar to ^ , k d dk would sound nicer.
  10. 01:29:708 (479,481) - changing these notes to k would accompany the rhythm in a way better.
  11. 01:34:510 - the timing point here could be removed as it is unnecessary.
  12. 01:57:875 (642) - maybe move this note to 01:57:930 - to follow the music there ? You may add d at 01:57:819 - as well to cohere with 01:43:819 (558) -
  13. 02:10:548 (692) - same as 00:03:930 (8) -
  14. 02:15:608 (702,703) - same suggestion as Oni
  15. 02:20:668 - add d and change 02:21:029 (716) - to k as you did in Oni ?
You may call me back after that~ :D
Topic Starter
-xNaCLx-

Lugei wrote:

(初次mod)英文差 用中文mod sorry :o

Inner oni
00:00:042 - 00:15:930 可用x1.5速度// 不太想變速因為這首歌也不算太快再減慢的話有點怪
00:15:708 (45,46,47) - 可改走第46同47音 //這裡有點聲音想保留著
01:14:042 - 01:15:208 建議用spinner 因為個段較為細聲 //我覺得可以map . _.
01:16:042 - 01:32:042 同樣可用x1.5速度 令譜面有特色啲(好似係 :? //^
01:32:042 (483) - 可改為藍音//因為靜想keep返全紅pattern
01:33:042 - 01:34:042 可改為這樣 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5092048 另外可用x2.0速度 //^
02:04:042 - 02:27:897 又可用x1.5速度(連埋spinner) 原因同上//^

希望以上淺見可以幫到你 :oops: 下次會再mod其他難度 :)
thanks for mod :)
Topic Starter
-xNaCLx-

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Hi, here is the M4M as requested.

[General]

Disable widescreen support from Kantan to Oni as there exists no storyboard.

  • [Kantan]

    Maybe HP+1 and OD-1 so that players could not pass the map with low accuracy. ok
  1. 00:13:708 (18) - you may want to remove this note to make the break consistent with 00:05:708 - //there's the high pitch at 00:13:042 (17) - makes me want to add some changes here
  2. 00:15:708 (21) - consider deleting this note for simplicity ? d D in 1/2 would be quite demanding for Kantan. ok :3
  3. 00:29:042 (41) - k would be better as the pitch of music is the same as 00:28:042 (40) - fixed
  4. 00:36:042 (52) - maybe change this to d ? It sounds a bit overemphasized imo. right, consider that i dont have finish for the other two
  5. 00:39:042 (57) - this note could be removed for a 3/1 break. Currently patterns are mapped in a way too consecutive, which is not favourable for beginners. ok
  6. 00:42:375 (61) - although the song BPM is low, it would be better to delete this note to avoid long 1/2 pattern in Kantan. ok T_T
  7. 00:50:375 (73) - same as ^
  8. 00:55:042 (81,82,83) - similar to 00:39:042 (57) - , these notes could be deleted for another 3/1 break. good :3
  9. 01:12:375 (109,110) - maybe delete these notes as well ? They look rather unnecessary and add too much to difficulty. maybe only the first one
  10. 01:33:708 (22) and 01:36:375 (27) - same as 00:42:375 (61) - fixed
  11. 01:47:042 (44,45,46) - same as 00:55:042 (81,82,83) - fixed
  12. 01:50:375 (51) - same as 00:42:375 (61) - fixed
  13. 01:57:708 (63) - consider removing this note to keep the break consistent with 01:43:708 - ? //it's quite clear that there's a note here so i would keep it
  14. 02:02:708 (72,73) - swapping these notes to d k would fit the pitch increase well. //i think the pitch of the melody is decreasing?
  15. 02:11:632 (83,84) - same as 00:39:042 (57) - fixed
  • [Futsuu]

    Similar to Kantan, Maybe HP+1 ? ok
  1. 00:04:375 (7) - consider deleting this note for a better spread with Kantan ? It is as dense as Muzukashii at the moment.
  2. 00:07:375 (14) - 00:12:375 (24) and 00:15:375 (31) - same as ^ remapped a little bit so that the density is lower but instead i removed the first note of the 5 1/2 notes and some more notes as I dont want to create too many 2 notes pattern which sounds boring
  3. 00:39:708 (92) - similar to ^ , this note could be removed to balance the difficulty gap with Kantan. fixed
  4. 00:56:042 (121) - maybe add finish as you did in Kantan ? fixed
  5. 00:59:708 (132,133) - you may swap these notes to d k to follow the pitch increase there. fixed
  6. 01:11:542 (165) and 01:11:875 (167) - these two notes should be deleted for a better spread with Kantan. Then you may add finish at 01:12:042 (168) - to cohere with 01:10:042 (160) - fixed
  7. 01:12:375 (169) - it would be better to delete this note for a break like in Muzukashii. fixed
  8. 01:21:375 (12) - same as 00:04:375 (7) - fixed in the way i did above
  9. 01:25:875 (20) - this note sounds a bit redundant in this calm session. Maybe remove it ? fixed
  10. 01:46:708 (61) - you may delete this note for a longer break in the middle of the dense kiai. fixed
  11. 01:48:042 (65) - I think you may have missed the finish here ? yep
  12. 01:58:708 (89) - again, the difficulty jump compared to Kantan is too big here. Deleting this note would help reduce it. fixed and added some changes
  13. 02:02:708 (99,100) - same as Kantan //^
  • [Muzukashii]
  1. 00:02:708 (3) - maybe d as you did in Futsuu ? //i kind of like to use repeated pattern for lower diff. cuz that might be "easier", but i want to make the pattern more diverse here
  2. 00:30:042 (90) - consider removing finish here ? It sounds a bit overemphasized imo. fixed
  3. 00:33:042 (99,101) - swapping these notes to k d would reflect the pitch drop nicely. //99 to 100 is a huge increase in pitch and even 101 have a higher pitch than 99
  4. 00:52:042 (147) - maybe k as you did in Futsuu ? fixed//no as I added d below and the melody here is different and i prefer a different pattern
  5. 00:52:708 - you may add d here to make this part a bit denser than Futsuu. fixed
  6. 00:59:625 (172) - move to 00:59:458 - to follow the special sound there ? fixed
  7. 01:12:042 (223) - same as Futsuu fixed
  8. 01:23:930 (249) - this note sounds a bit redundant in this calm session. Maybe remove it ? //although its still calm but its sightly more energetic than the previous bar so i think this note is quite good to show the change
  • [Oni]
  1. 00:28:875 (110) - k would be better as the pitch of music remains high. //i still feel like the sound here is not as strong as the two before so i'd prefer d
  2. 00:32:042 (125) - you may add finish as you did in Muzukashii. fixed
  3. 00:34:042 (133) - same as ^[ color=#0000FF]fixed[/color]
  4. 00:38:042 (151) - changing this note to K would emphasize the stressed sound there properly. fixed
  5. 00:48:042 (178) - same as 00:32:042 (125) - fixed
  6. 00:59:375 (223,224,225,226) - similar to Muzukashii, maybe try kkk d instead of k ddd ? changed to d ddk
  7. 01:25:042 (338) - it would be better to change this note to k to keep it the same as Inner Oni. fixed
  8. 02:13:439 (514) - similar to ^ , d would be better. fixed
  9. 02:15:608 (519,520) - maybe k d for pattern consistency as Muzukashii ? //hmm i would prefer this pattern more so i made some changes to muzukashii instead.
  • [Inner Oni]
  1. 00:03:930 (8) - maybe d as you did in Oni ? //like above i want the pattern to be more diverse
  2. 00:35:792 - add d and 00:35:958 - add k so that this part would be harder than Oni. fixed
  3. 00:38:042 (208) - same as Oni fixed
  4. 00:42:042 (221) - you may use d here to keep the pattern consistent with Oni. fixed
  5. 00:56:042 (274) - similar to ^ , K would be better. fixed
  6. 01:05:042 (358) and 01:06:042 (361) - consider adding finish here for the strong cymbal ? yepyep
  7. 01:16:042 (445) - I think you may have missed the finish here ? yup
  8. 01:17:708 (449) - same as 00:03:930 (8) - well yes for here
  9. 01:23:375 (464,465,466,467) - similar to ^ , k d dk would sound nicer. //the melody is actually d d k d in one spacing, imo both fit well
  10. 01:29:708 (479,481) - changing these notes to k would accompany the rhythm in a way better. //the music is so so so calm here i want to keep it all d
  11. 01:34:510 - the timing point here could be removed as it is unnecessary. lol it's not here before, maybe i added it accidentally in some update
  12. 01:57:875 (642) - maybe move this note to 01:57:930 - to follow the music there ? You may add d at 01:57:819 - as well to cohere with 01:43:819 (558) - //it seems to be a note between the 1/4 and 1/6 and i think 1/4 fits better consider the 1/4 stream at 01:58:375 -
  13. 02:10:548 (692) - same as 00:03:930 (8) - //changed the one in Oni instead as i want to keep the k for the high pitch
  14. 02:15:608 (702,703) - same suggestion as Oni //same
  15. 02:20:668 - add d and change 02:21:029 (716) - to k as you did in Oni ? fixed
You may call me back after that~ :D
thanks for mod :D
Nardoxyribonucleic
The set looks fine now with an appropriate spread. More rest moments are incorporated into the lower difficulties and pattern arrangement is quite nice.

Bubbled~
Topic Starter
-xNaCLx-

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

The set looks fine now with an appropriate spread. More rest moments are incorporated into the lower difficulties and pattern arrangement is quite nice.

Bubbled~
\:D/ yay~
Nwolf
"there are so many bubbled maps and you decide to rank something bubbled 5 hours ago, shame on you!!!"

For reference: I call all 1/2 notes 1/1, all 1/4 notes 1/2 etc. This is because I consider sakuzyo baka and this song 180 BPM even though officially it's not C:
Note: I might have screwed up and used 1/8 and 1/12 after all.

[General]

I honestly think that the volume is incredibly low compared to the song, so I'd suggest increasing the hitsound volume in the loud parts by 20%. Maybe in some others too, that's up to you. Maybe we should do this in IRC tomorrow lel
--> Spinner doesn't really have to be that much louder. Try 30% for it anyway

02:04:042 - You've got two different volumes here. I'd go with 40%, then it's the same as 01:16:042 -
--> Please note this does not consider any potential increase in volume. If you increase volume, use the same between these two parts. Here I wouldn't increase volume though.

01:32:042 - On all diffs: Would be nice to remove this note, I think. It doesn't belong to the melody and gives all diffs a fitting break. Then the focus also stays on the melody.

[Kantan]

00:36:708 (52,54) - To make a slightly larger gap to Futsuu, I'd suggest to remove either both notes or only 54. Will also decrease the difficulty a little bit as there's four 1/1 doublets atm.
00:40:042 (56) - Feels like this would be nice as a big note, like 00:24:042 (33) - 00:16:042 (21) -
00:59:708 (83) - Even though it's following a present sound, I think it would fit the map much more nicely 01:00:708 - here (maybe as a kat) because then 00:56:042 (77,78,79,80,81,82) - these six notes form a clear pattern and the two doublets would be like the next stage of pattern-ness.
01:33:042 (20,21) - hmmm personally I think a slider/spinner works more nicely here to follow the harp insanity.
01:41:042 (33) - Higher pitch than 01:40:042 (32) - so consider kat. Next note is kat too, yes, but it's emphasized by being big.
02:02:708 (66,67) - Delete these notes. Would let the kiai end nicely on 02:02:042 (65) - and also break the 3/1 continuity here, giving more presence to these last notes in the 83 BPM section. If you lead into them with the same rhythm it feels boring imho.


[Futsuu]

00:17:042 - 00:19:042 - 00:21:042 - 00:23:042 - could all have notes added as the gap to Muzukashii is pretty big and small to Kantan. It's not as bad in other parts but I doubt they can even this out.
00:24:375 (42) - And theeen delete this, so upcoming unmapped melody notes like 00:29:375 - 00:30:375 - and especially 00:32:375 - become less noteworthy. Also gives a break after the, with the above change, more intense kiai.
00:36:042 (77,79) - Are both finishers, so 00:38:042 (81) - should be a finisher too, right?
00:40:042 (84) - Same as Kantan
00:50:542 (102) - This is literally the same as Muzukashii, so this should be deleted.
00:52:042 (106) - Consider changing this to don so the next kat 00:53:042 (107) - feels more special and the pitch change becomes noticeable.
01:02:375 - Picture here cause omg changes


Basically, following the rhythm 00:57:708 (117,118,119,120,121,122) - here more and avoiding a 180 BPM 1/2 finisher 01:03:708 (135,136) - here because that's cruel for Futsuu.

01:16:708 (2) - Remove this note as it is not present 00:02:708 - here. This part needs to stay calm.
01:23:042 (13,14,15) - Probably a better idea to remove all these notes. Futsuu could use this one rest moment pretty nicely and these are, to me, very unimportant notes. If not removing all, delete most (14/15).
01:47:042 (58) - Consider changing this to kat, then the don becomes more noticeable.
01:58:042 (83,84,85,86,87,88,89) - pretty sad this isn't mapped like 01:44:042 (53,54,55,56,57) - .
02:06:572 - Missing note here? Other diffs are pretty much as intense as the similar parts.
02:11:632 (104) - Could be deleted. Then there's a break in Futsuu again and the upcoming kats are emphasized but it's not that important.


[Muzukashii]

00:15:875 (35) - This note is pretty unnecessary and just covers up 00:16:042 (36) - , could be deleted
00:40:042 (121) - Same as Kantan/Futsuu
01:01:542 - Add a note here, as there is one 00:57:542 (164) - here. Song feels a little undermapped after the 2/1 break.
01:09:292 (211) - Fits nicer 01:09:125 - here imo.
--> move 01:11:292 (219) - to 01:11:125 - here.
Remove 01:33:292 (269) - , Futsuu only has 1/1 notes here. Gap is too big
02:00:042 (358) - Should be a finisher, considering 01:58:042 (350,351,353) -

[Oni]

00:15:819 (43,44) - Same as Inner Oni
00:40:042 (156) - Blah
01:13:542 (310) - Would fit nicer as don to signal the fall in pitch.
01:33:292 (356) - Move 01:33:125 - to here so the notes are placed on the spots where the harp makes audible fast notes.
01:59:458 (475,476) - What are these snapped to? The piano stays 1/6, it doesn't change 1/8->1/6

[Inner Oni]

00:15:819 (46,47) - If these were gone, the start of the kiai was emphasized much better C:
00:40:042 (219) - Blah Blah
01:14:958 (443) - 01:15:125 (445) - for me this stream flows so much nicer if these are kats.
01:33:041 (486,487,488,489) - I really think you should change this into being 1/8 too. I get that you get an "accelerated" feeling or something, and that this is mapped to the harp; but then you would have to put 1/12 01:33:375 - and 01:33:708 - here. Which wouldn't be a good idea. So yeah keep 1/8 pls.
01:59:375 (652,653,654,655,656) - Same as Oni. Remove 01:59:625 (655) - and change the rest into 1/6.


fuck I'm tired it's midnight

maybe ask Nardo for a rebub after you applied changes, maybe he considers the changes on lower diffs as a lot. Call me back~
Topic Starter
-xNaCLx-

Nwolf wrote:

"there are so many bubbled maps and you decide to rank something bubbled 5 hours ago, shame on you!!!"

For reference: I call all 1/2 notes 1/1, all 1/4 notes 1/2 etc. This is because I consider sakuzyo baka and this song 180 BPM even though officially it's not C:
Note: I might have screwed up and used 1/8 and 1/12 after all.
sakuzyo is not baka :( this map is 90bpm as its compound duple, just osu is baka and cannot make it

[General]

I honestly think that the volume is incredibly low compared to the song, so I'd suggest increasing the hitsound volume in the loud parts by 20%. Maybe in some others too, that's up to you. Maybe we should do this in IRC tomorrow lel
--> Spinner doesn't really have to be that much louder. Try 30% for it anyway
hmm..i'm not very sure because i usually prefer lower hitsound and it seems fine to me
02:04:042 - You've got two different volumes here. I'd go with 40%, then it's the same as 01:16:042 -
--> Please note this does not consider any potential increase in volume. If you increase volume, use the same between these two parts. Here I wouldn't increase volume though. yea this is interesting, fixed to 30% as i feel like it should be softer at the end

01:32:042 - On all diffs: Would be nice to remove this note, I think. It doesn't belong to the melody and gives all diffs a fitting break. Then the focus also stays on the melody. //i feel like sakuzyo did a great job here removing all other sounds but only the ticking sound that acts like a count down to the final part and i want to put notes here. plus the density before here is super low and that already serve as a break imo

[Kantan]

00:36:708 (52,54) - To make a slightly larger gap to Futsuu, I'd suggest to remove either both notes or only 54. Will also decrease the difficulty a little bit as there's four 1/1 doublets atm. deleted 00:35:708 (50) - instead as that keep consistency better
00:40:042 (56) - Feels like this would be nice as a big note, like 00:24:042 (33) - 00:16:042 (21) - //i think neither the part before nor after is strong enough for me to put the finish here
00:59:708 (83) - Even though it's following a present sound, I think it would fit the map much more nicely 01:00:708 - here (maybe as a kat) because then 00:56:042 (77,78,79,80,81,82) - these six notes form a clear pattern and the two doublets would be like the next stage of pattern-ness. //what i think is that the melody here is quite compact, you can see the sentence "ends" at 00:59:042 - but the new sentence starts at 00:59:375 - already, it is feel where "this sentence is ended but the next is closely following it", and imo this can keep up the feel that "this is not only a new sentence, but one that follows tightly to the one before"
01:33:042 (20,21) - hmmm personally I think a slider/spinner works more nicely here to follow the harp insanity. //but such short slider/spinner don't fit in kantan :(
01:41:042 (33) - Higher pitch than 01:40:042 (32) - so consider kat. Next note is kat too, yes, but it's emphasized by being big. //still want the emphasize from different colour
02:02:708 (66,67) - Delete these notes. Would let the kiai end nicely on 02:02:042 (65) - and also break the 3/1 continuity here, giving more presence to these last notes in the 83 BPM section. If you lead into them with the same rhythm it feels boring imho. //but these notes are quite important as they serve as an echo to the part before at 02:00:042 - ...


[Futsuu]

00:17:042 - 00:19:042 - 00:21:042 - 00:23:042 - could all have notes added as the gap to Muzukashii is pretty big and small to Kantan. It's not as bad in other parts but I doubt they can even this out. //but adding these doesn't fit the flow ._. and its too dense for futsuu as well imo
00:24:375 (42) - And theeen delete this, so upcoming unmapped melody notes like 00:29:375 - 00:30:375 - and especially 00:32:375 - become less noteworthy. Also gives a break after the, with the above change, more intense kiai. //actually i just used two different patterns to map this part, maybe you can check it again.
00:36:042 (77,79) - Are both finishers, so 00:38:042 (81) - should be a finisher too, right? yep
00:40:042 (84) - Same as Kantan //^
00:50:542 (102) - This is literally the same as Muzukashii, so this should be deleted. changed to d ddd k as this keep consistent with the later part
00:52:042 (106) - Consider changing this to don so the next kat 00:53:042 (107) - feels more special and the pitch change becomes noticeable. //imo they give a similar feel so ima keep it the same
01:02:375 - Picture here cause omg changes


Basically, following the rhythm 00:57:708 (117,118,119,120,121,122) - here more and avoiding a 180 BPM 1/2 finisher 01:03:708 (135,136) - here because that's cruel for Futsuu.
moved 01:03:875 (135) - to 01:03:208 - to fit the sound as well as keeping the flow
01:16:708 (2) - Remove this note as it is not present 00:02:708 - here. This part needs to stay calm. looks like the reference is changed at the last mod and i didn't notice this, fixed anyway
01:23:042 (13,14,15) - Probably a better idea to remove all these notes. Futsuu could use this one rest moment pretty nicely and these are, to me, very unimportant notes. If not removing all, delete most (14/15). //but it's quite important to me as it is a reply to 01:21:042 (8,9,10,11) - , the melody there is like a question and the notes here are answer to it, you can also see that i used a pattern that only the last note is different to mark their changes
01:47:042 (58) - Consider changing this to kat, then the don becomes more noticeable. //but the pitch keeps increasing lol, why would i want to make the don more noticeable
01:58:042 (83,84,85,86,87,88,89) - pretty sad this isn't mapped like 01:44:042 (53,54,55,56,57) - . //the melody here is much more intense?
02:06:572 - Missing note here? Other diffs are pretty much as intense as the similar parts. added 02:09:825 - as well
02:11:632 (104) - Could be deleted. Then there's a break in Futsuu again and the upcoming kats are emphasized but it's not that important. //but i didn't give a break that long over the map so i don't think its necessary


[Muzukashii]

00:15:875 (35) - This note is pretty unnecessary and just covers up 00:16:042 (36) - , could be deleted //imo it gives a nice push to the kiai
00:40:042 (121) - Same as Kantan/Futsuu //^
01:01:542 - Add a note here, as there is one 00:57:542 (164) - here. Song feels a little undermapped after the 2/1 break. fixed
01:09:292 (211) - Fits nicer 01:09:125 - here imo.
--> move 01:11:292 (219) - to 01:11:125 - here. //I don't know how to say but to me, kkk k gives a feel that it ends at the last k, but the ringringring sound keeps going until the next d, and k kkk seems to be expressing the feel better
Remove 01:33:292 (269) - , Futsuu only has 1/1 notes here. Gap is too big //but both adding notes in futsuu and full 1/2 stream here sounds odd to me.. deleted 01:33:875 - instead
02:00:042 (358) - Should be a finisher, considering 01:58:042 (350,351,353) - fixed

[Oni]

00:15:819 (43,44) - Same as Inner Oni //leaving it empty seems weird to me x_x
00:40:042 (156) - Blah //^
01:13:542 (310) - Would fit nicer as don to signal the fall in pitch. //there's the kat kat katkatkat sound at the background
01:33:292 (356) - Move 01:33:125 - to here so the notes are placed on the spots where the harp makes audible fast notes. fixed
01:59:458 (475,476) - What are these snapped to? The piano stays 1/6, it doesn't change 1/8->1/6 //i want the hard beat sound at 01:59:542 (476) - and i still want to add a note between this and 01:59:375 (474) - so i chose 1/8 as i dont want to see 1/12 in oni.. ////after discussion with nardo it seems like the rhythm here is x_x__x__x in 1/16 spacing.... well i chose to keep it as 1/6 for the second part as that would be more simple, but the first part as i mentioned above i want a note to be on that hard beat so i would keep it like this

[Inner Oni]

00:15:819 (46,47) - If these were gone, the start of the kiai was emphasized much better C: //^
00:40:042 (219) - Blah Blah //^
01:14:958 (443) - 01:15:125 (445) - for me this stream flows so much nicer if these are kats. //i only get the high pitch at the middle k ._.
01:33:041 (486,487,488,489) - I really think you should change this into being 1/8 too. I get that you get an "accelerated" feeling or something, and that this is mapped to the harp; but then you would have to put 1/12 01:33:375 - and 01:33:708 - here. Which wouldn't be a good idea. So yeah keep 1/8 pls. //actually the original version have it followed the harp and with 1/12 from 01:33:375 - to 01:34:042 - , which i feel is too many, but i still at least want to keep a small part as 1/12 so i left this as it is kind of "separated" from the 1/12 after it.
01:59:375 (652,653,654,655,656) - Same as Oni. Remove 01:59:625 (655) - and change the rest into 1/6. hmm i made it 1/12, lets see how it works out


fuck I'm tired it's midnight おつかれ:3

maybe ask Nardo for a rebub after you applied changes, maybe he considers the changes on lower diffs as a lot. Call me back~
Thanks for mod :)
Nardoxyribonucleic
Checked the changes applied in the set. They look reasonable to me.

  • Additional changes upon discussing with NCL are as follows:
  1. Futsuu - Added the missing finish at 00:38:042 (81) - for consistency.
  2. Muzukashii - Deleted the note at 01:33:875 - to balance the spread from Futsuu to Oni.
Rebubbled~
Nwolf
talked a little bit in IRC

take my BN² qualify virginity

~
riktoi
Shouldn't the source rather be one of the rhythm games it was included in? As G2R2014 is a BMS event wouldn't changing it to BMS be more fitting?

Quoted from the Song setup wiki:
Not every song needs something in the "Source" field. The source is only for songs that are "from" something, such as a video game theme song, or something from the soundtrack of an anime. Regular rock and pop songs can just leave the source field blank.
Also there is already a ranked map with "BMS" as source by Kuo Kyoka.
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/767308
Topic Starter
-xNaCLx-

riktoi wrote:

Shouldn't the source rather be one of the rhythm games it was included in? As G2R2014 is a BMS event wouldn't changing it to BMS be more fitting?

Quoted from the Song setup wiki:
Not every song needs something in the "Source" field. The source is only for songs that are "from" something, such as a video game theme song, or something from the soundtrack of an anime. Regular rock and pop songs can just leave the source field blank.
right, fixing it soon
Blocko
Disqualified upon request from the mapper.
riktoi

-xNaCLx- wrote:

right, fixing it soon
Hope you get qualified again soon!
Nardoxyribonucleic
I thought G2R2014 was a kind of arcade game lol.

Rechecked everything and the set should be fine now.

Rebubbled~
Akasha-
Wow, another Altale
You can add more tags like: of fighters 2014 bof2014 g2r2014 go back to your roots レオル カタストロフィー理論
wish you best, good luck

ninja'd
Topic Starter
-xNaCLx-

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

I thought G2R2014 was a kind of arcade game lol.

Rechecked everything and the set should be fine now.

Rebubbled~
\:D/ yay~

Kuo Kyoka wrote:

Wow, another Altale
You ca add more tags like: of fighters 2014 bof2014 g2r2014 go back to your roots レオル カタストロフィー理論
wish you best, good luck
thanks! :D and I love your mania set as well =w=
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