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JimmyThumb-P feat.Hatsune Miku - from Y to Y

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AIR
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AIR

ZZHBOY wrote:

SPOILER
[luminous]
01:37:161 (2,3,4,5,6) - 这里是1/4鼓点 用圈就好 何必用1/4滑条你有没有觉得差不多，连打还要摆形状
01:48:182 (2,3) - 这两个遮的太多了 把移开吧 不然有点难读 rc有写不要太遮滑条√
01:49:406 (6,7,8) - 我觉得这样好打点 原来的打起来有点不舒服 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4136307√
01:53:080 (2,4) - 翻转下像我这样改下如何 你那样摆打起来很不好 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4136310√
03:56:447 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - 这里音乐没啥特别的地方 建议关网格开ds摆一下√

挺神的一张图 唯一需要做的是你应该想办法让整个图好打
有的地方打起来有问题 建议你多开点加分mode去test或者找五位数玩家试一试
要是你觉得现在这样就可以 把摸回复下然后给我发pm吧

DahplA wrote:

SPOILER
[General]
  1. The Romanised Artist should be JimmyThumb-P, as suggested by some sites including the wikia.√
  2. You can add Hatsune Miku into the tags, as well as Megurine Luka for doing main vocals and back-up vocals respectively.√
  3. This song is also featured in the -Project DIVA- series, so you might want to add that into the tags as well.
[Luminous]
  1. There are a lot of drum beats that you haven't hitsounded into the song. These play out on 00:09:916 (1,3,4) - the highlighted beats here. I highly recommend that you add these in as it's a vital part of the song.I'm not good at hitsounds, so, avoid superfluous i think
  2. 00:34:406 (1,2,3,4) - and 00:35:631 (1,2,3,4) - I'm not sure about the random increase in spacing here. The song doesn't get any more intense, so there's no logic behind making it more spaced. I suggest reducing the spacing here to keep in line with previous patterns.√
  3. 00:39:304 (1) - There's a cymbal sound here, so a finish should be placed to represent it here. Also in this part, every downbeat there seems to be a piano sound which can be represented by a whistle.√
  4. 02:17:263 (1) - Again, some of the downbeats here have a nice low piano sound which hasn't been emphasised enough. I would suggest adding hitsounds here to represent it.
-

Mapping-wise, there's nothing wrong. You just need to put some more work into your hitsounds. Good luck.
thanks!
Shad0w1and
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Shad0w1and
神图
多搭讪赶快起飞
SP够了我就不射了
ZZHBOY
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Joined April 2012
ZZHBOY
fine for me, bubbled
Hollow Wings
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Joined July 2010
Hollow Wings
m4m

Luminous

  1. 00:28:590 (1,2,3,4) - 这个overmap没必要吧。
  2. 00:48:182 (8,9,10) - 这里不搞成两个二连么，难得有了两个明显的鼓点还要和前面搞成一样节奏么。
  3. 01:16:957 (1,2,3,4,5) - 好吧，同第一条。
  4. 01:33:182 (1,2,3) - 这个ds梗。。。建议01:33:182 (1,2) - 的nc换一下。
  5. 01:43:590 (4,5,1) - slider 1 is nearly completed overlapped, i think this is unrankble.
  6. 02:46:345 (4,5) - 这跳没必要那么大。。。note 5 stack在02:46:039 (3) - 的头上就好。
  7. 03:43:590 (1,1,1) - 没必要nc spam。
  8. 03:52:467 (1) - 掰弯。
  9. 03:53:692 (1,2,3) - 建议弄成1/3折返，或者note+1/3slider。
  10. 04:26:753 (8) - 感觉ctrl+g更好。
  11. 坚持要overmap也无所谓，吐槽勿怪。
柑橘各种排版可以再设计一下，目前的好像有点简单了。

good luck
AIR
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AIR

Hollow Wings wrote:

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m4m

Luminous

  1. 00:28:590 (1,2,3,4) - 这个overmap没必要吧。
  2. 00:48:182 (8,9,10) - 这里不搞成两个二连么，难得有了两个明显的鼓点还要和前面搞成一样节奏么。
  3. 01:16:957 (1,2,3,4,5) - 好吧，同第一条。
  4. 01:33:182 (1,2,3) - 这个ds梗。。。建议01:33:182 (1,2) - 的nc换一下。
  5. 01:43:590 (4,5,1) - slider 1 is nearly completed overlapped, i think this is unrankble.
  6. 02:46:345 (4,5) - 这跳没必要那么大。。。note 5 stack在02:46:039 (3) - 的头上就好。
  7. 03:43:590 (1,1,1) - 没必要nc spam。
  8. 03:52:467 (1) - 掰弯。
  9. 03:53:692 (1,2,3) - 建议弄成1/3折返，或者note+1/3slider。
  10. 04:26:753 (8) - 感觉ctrl+g更好。
  11. 坚持要overmap也无所谓，吐槽勿怪。
柑橘各种排版可以再设计一下，目前的好像有点简单了。

good luck
thanks!
改改改神麻婆就是真理
all fixed
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smallboat
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smallboat
抱歉晚來

normal-hitfinish 這音效好像不太行，用GW看前面5ms幾乎平的
SPOILER
00:28:692 (2,3) - Overmap啊，Loc討厭這種overmap的
02:17:263 (1) - 感覺有點坑，突然變小間距然後就斷combo了，還是保持相同space吧
03:37:161 (4,5,6) - 稍微美觀一點 :
SPOILER
03:39:610 (4) -
SPOILER
04:36:243 (1) - 同Combo的顏色間距建議相等
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AIR
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AIR

smallboat wrote:

抱歉晚來

normal-hitfinish 這音效好像不太行，用GW看前面5ms幾乎平的
SPOILER
00:28:692 (2,3) - Overmap啊，Loc討厭這種overmap的
02:17:263 (1) - 感覺有點坑，突然變小間距然後就斷combo了，還是保持相同space吧
03:37:161 (4,5,6) - 稍微美觀一點 :
SPOILER
03:39:610 (4) -
SPOILER
04:36:243 (1) - 同Combo的顏色間距建議相等
谢谢！ :)

all fixed, update
smallboat
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smallboat
#1 Bubbled -> Due to normal-hitfinish hitsound change

叫ZZH二泡 (#2 Bubbled)，接下來找心靠你自己 LOL
AIR
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AIR

smallboat wrote:

#1 Bubbled -> Due to normal-hitfinish hitsound change

叫ZZH二泡 (#2 Bubbled)，接下來找心靠你自己 LOL

船业谢辣! ;)
ZZHBOY
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ZZHBOY
我草 这也戳?
bub #2
AIR
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AIR

ZZHBOY wrote:

我草 这也戳?
bub #2
你真棒！ ;)
IamKwaN
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IamKwaN
Hello, as your request.

SPOILER




References:
http://vocalostar.com/index3.html
http://exittunes.com/detail/qwce-00376.html

Unicode Artist should be 'ジミーサムP feat.初音ミク', while the Romanised Artist should be 'JimmyThumb-P feat.Hatsune Miku'.

You may add some more tags, for example, 'EXIT TUNES', 'Vocalostar', etc.

Good luck!
AIR
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AIR

IamKwaN wrote:

Hello, as your request.

SPOILER




References:
http://vocalostar.com/index3.html
http://exittunes.com/detail/qwce-00376.html

Unicode Artist should be 'ジミーサムP feat.初音ミク', while the Romanised Artist should be 'JimmyThumb-P feat.Hatsune Miku'.

You may add some more tags, for example, 'EXIT TUNES', 'Vocalostar', etc.

Good luck!
thanks! will fixed them at next update :)
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Rizia
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Rizia
不OD8麼?
AIR
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AIR

Rizia wrote:

不OD8麼?
翔度不忍直视...
fixed and update
Rizia
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Rizia
qualified
AIR
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AIR

Rizia wrote:

qualified
wow, thanks everyone ＞口＜
Fushimi Rio
Fushimi Rio
朋友 2016了 还
Autumn
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Autumn
Thanks for bringing full ver.
以前也想re掉last night和Y两首歌, 一转眼就3年了..
AIR
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AIR

Autumn wrote:

Thanks for bringing full ver.
以前也想re掉last night和Y两首歌, 一转眼就3年了..
too shit, rating已经爆炸
奥图木酷爱飞last night ;w;
Autumn
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Autumn

AIR wrote:

Autumn wrote:

Thanks for bringing full ver.
以前也想re掉last night和Y两首歌, 一转眼就3年了..
too shit, rating已经爆炸
奥图木酷爱飞last night ;w;
刚考完研, 处于无业游民状态, 在家等出分...
等有学上了再来处理这堆烂摊子. 我还有个泡了一个多月的图没人点. 法克 bn
500th post √
iiyo
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iiyo
01:56:753 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - hollow wings inspire? :o
I Must Decrease
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I Must Decrease
oh boy this is gonna be good
*gets popcorn ready*
moya
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moya

Xexxar wrote:

oh boy this is gonna be good
*gets popcorn ready*
Len
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Len

Xexxar wrote:

oh boy this is gonna be good
*gets popcorn ready*
nice mapping style but nah.
Okoratu
Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator
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Okoratu
hey this is pretty nice
the only thing i was a bit sad about is that you miss out so many opportunities to highlight this song in terms of hitsounding, currently the way you hitsound the whole map is very minimalistic and you could have created even more impressions with hitsounding imo

also either i'm deaf or the 1/12 sliderspam section sounds much better as just 1/6 sliders
Kinomi
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Kinomi
则不呢突然qualified我感觉你可以改进的地方还有很多
Spaghetti
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Spaghetti

Xexxar wrote:

oh boy this is gonna be good
*gets popcorn ready*
Frostmourne
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Frostmourne
Very good fun map to play :) !

The only thing I'm concerned about (not meant to aim for disqualification or something but keep in mind for next future maps)

03:53:692 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - you should use lower spacing like below 1.0x for those streams because the way players perceive such spacing is similar to 1/6 that got started from 03:33:182 (1) - to 03:43:590 (1) - so players can misinterpret the rhythm as the current spacing is presented for 1/6, not 1/8

keep it up :oops:
AIR
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AIR

Tsukuyomi wrote:

则不呢突然qualified我感觉你可以改进的地方还有很多
懒癌病入膏肓;w;

Okoratu wrote:

hey this is pretty nice
the only thing i was a bit sad about is that you miss out so many opportunities to highlight this song in terms of hitsounding, currently the way you hitsound the whole map is very minimalistic and you could have created even more impressions with hitsounding imo

also either i'm deaf or the 1/12 sliderspam section sounds much better as just 1/6 sliders

FrostxE wrote:

Very good fun map to play :) !

The only thing I'm concerned about (not meant to aim for disqualification or something but keep in mind for next future maps)

03:53:692 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - you should use lower spacing like below 1.0x for those streams because the way players perceive such spacing is similar to 1/6 that got started from 03:33:182 (1) - to 03:43:590 (1) - so players can misinterpret the rhythm as the current spacing is presented for 1/6, not 1/8

keep it up :oops:
okey, I get it. but the map seems too hard to play, feel so sorry about that and wish me luck... :o
Garven
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Garven
So I came for the song, but after playing through I need to say a few things:

First of all, why is everything in the intro in straight rhythms? You're obviously following the drums, except that you're not on the right snap. I know that you know it's not the right snap too, since you got it correct at 00:39:304 -

Hitsounding is damned near non-existent due to incredibly low volume which is a pity since this song really gives you a lot to work with. If you could hear the hitsounds at all, you could easily tell that a significant portion of the map isn't snapped correctly.

01:18:488 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - is pretty much the exact same rhythm. Which is overmapped to boot. Please try some rhythmic diversity.

01:33:335 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - And now you suddenly decided to stop following the song again and go with 1/2 rhythms instead of swinging?
01:37:161 (2,3,4,5,6) - Can you really tell these are normal-hitnormals? I sure can't.

Seriously? The first chorus is pretty much a repeat of what happened at 01:18 except it's all sliders now instead of mixing between circles and sliders. The other chorus also suffers from this.

03:16:039 - Now that we finally came to the part that is easily the best place for use of kiai time, it's missing plus the part to play is incredibly anti-climactic. This is the huge reveal. Juliet just found out Romeo is dead. Luke Skywalker just found out he kissed his sister. Let's play short stubby sliders! I dunno, more of a rant than a real mod for this, but I was really disappointed with it.

03:33:182 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Suddenly uncharacteristic stream which seems to do nothing but provide a huge spike in difficulty. Why?

04:56:447 (1) - And back to incorrectly snapped objects.

Please look into making the map a bit more interesting rhythmically and a bit more balanced difficulty-wise. Right now it's a bit of a mess and needs some work beyond the technical problems.
Shiirn
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Shiirn
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Hi! On behalf of quite a few people I know, I am going over this map for you. You might want to find a good chinese to english translator to help you out with this mod, as it is very full of words and I am very bad at speaking in plain, easily-translatable ways.

I am not doing this to be mean, but to try to attempt to explain what parts of this map are "Bad Quality". It is important for mappers to know that they are doing things incorrectly or in ways that can be improved with a little bit of effort and a lot of love for music.

Please note that this does not include infringing on your "style". There are many ways to make your maps neater and more visually appealing without changing object placement all that much at all!

(Although, looking at the map, you don't appear to have any style at all. Or if you do, please change that style because it is bad.)

Luminous
  1. Your hitclap custom hitsound appears to be much louder in the Left channel than the Right! This is clearly unintended.
  2. Please change your habit of using Small gridsnap. This ruins your map because you cannot make everything even and your patterns will not be clean. At the very least, use Tiny so that any small errors are hard to notice.
  3. Almost all of your curved sliders look bad. They do not curve comfortably at all, overlap in ugly ways, don't blanket when they try to go around other notes, and in general they can pretty much all do with being redone.
  4. Your streams need major work. They bend at random points. Generally, if you want a stream to change directions, it is best to do so on a white tick, or, in rare cases such as this very low bpm map, a red tick. You don't want them changing direction anywhere else.
  5. With the exception of a single 1/8 stream about 2/3rds into the map, this entire track is in 1/6 metronome. Please remap all of the sections in which you use 1/4 with this in mind. Note that most of the calm sections do not have any sounds anywhere except on white and red ticks. You have to follow the music. Even Miku's vocals are following a 1/6 signature.
  6. 00:11:753 (5,6,1) - Because of your use of grid snap, these combos are not actually parallel to each other. A good way to make combos like this is to make the entire combo vertically first, and then rotate it afterwards to be at an angle. This goes for your entire map, I will not point out every single case in which this happens as I do not have the time. Just know that this happens every like three seconds in the areas where you use these patterns.
  7. 00:45:733 (7) - This slider's end is snapped to 1/4 when the rest of the section uses 1/3!!! Not there there are actually any noises on either 1/4 or 1/3 in most of this section, but consistency is vital.
  8. 00:56:600 (2) - This is placed on a 1/4 tick when the actual beat in the song is on 1/3!!!
  9. 00:57:365 (5) - This slider end should be snapped to 1/3! and for the sake of consistency, 00:57:059 (4) - should be as well!
  10. 01:34:253 (3,1,2,3,4,5) - All of these notes should be snapped to 1/3 timing!!!
  11. 01:37:161 (2,3,4,5,6) - The beats for this drumroll are in 1/3 timing, not 1/8!!!
  12. Hey, the whole "notes get softer and then loud and softer" bit is pretty neat. Good job! But why didn't you do it anywhere else?
  13. 02:51:396 (5) - Please be sure that notes are snapped to the correct timing signature. In the future of this post, if I link an object and provide no explanation, it is because it is snapped to 1/4 but should be 1/3 or vice versa.
  14. From 03:16:039 - to 03:33:182 - I shouldn't need to explain why this is bad. But if I do, here you go: There are no instruments or anything here for you to be using these weird 1/6 sliders for. Do something else.
  15. 03:35:325 (10) - Is this really snapped to 1/12? There is nothing in the music to warrant this being a slider. It can just be a circle.
  16. 03:36:549 (4) - ^
  17. 03:37:467 (1,2,3,4) - ^^^
  18. 03:40:121 (3) - You get the idea.
  19. 03:53:156 (2,3,4,5) - This is 3 notes, not 4. Listen carefully at 25%.
  20. 04:53:080 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This is too much.


Thank you for your time and patience!
pkhg
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pkhg

Garven wrote:

I came
Shad0w1and
1,588 posts
Joined April 2011
Shad0w1and
well, the snap true have some problems as they mentioned.
AIR加油，修复了snap你又是一条好汉！
UndeadCapulet
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UndeadCapulet
wtf are these mods

@Garven AIR compensates for the song's repetitive rhythms with diverse and expressive cursor movements. Adding in "more interesting rhythms" would just clutter things up and make the map a pain to play. The early doubles are a similar thing, and there's no real overmapping there, most beats have 1/6 in them, so just using doubles through the whole section fits well, and once again, allows all emphasis to be put on the cursor. It's well thought out, and fun to play, at least to me.

@Shiirn Seriously? The curved sliders are pure joy to play, why would you ever want to change them. This map has a consistent aesthetic style the entire way through, asking to change that is just overriding the mapper's style. (And honestly, I think the slider arrangements are really pretty so...)
And you're just completely wrong about a lot of your snapping comments. A lot of the song is 1/8.

It's cool to see people wanting to help out and all, but these comments aren't actually helpful.

@AIR please please please stick with this map, it's amazing.
Charles445
Elite Mapper II: Aspirant / osu! Paragon
2,881 posts
Joined March 2009
Charles445
It needs to be disqualified anyway due to real technical problems.

03:50:325 (1) - 1/16, was supposed to be 1/12.

We should wait for disqualify and for the mapper to respond to the current mods, no need for more mods right now.
Kite
osu! Alumni
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Joined July 2009
Kite

UndeadCapulet wrote:

wtf are these mods
And you're just completely wrong about a lot of your snapping comments. A lot of the song is 1/8.
1/8 doesn't cover 1/6 snaps which most of the song lands on anyways
There is a lot of room for rhythmical improvement, might aswell try and get it into a better state when it gets disqualified.
Best of luck to the mapper
mintong89
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Joined July 2011
mintong89
其实好点的音效或许会更加分 (.
AIR
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Topic Starter
AIR
Well, I need exam this afternoon, and more shitty things for lunar new year this month, you guys will get reply but not recently, maybe february or march :o
Seriously, why I must making shitty map to destroy a great song
riffy
osu! Alumni
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riffy
We do have a lot of rhythmical issues to address and consider. I am DQing this, so you can have a good look at it and fix the issues properly.

Good luck!
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