League of Legends

Vulf

Joined November 2009

Vulf 2013-10-18T16:27:23+00:00

That's a valid argument, but the player base didn't increase that much to reflect those stats. That's even including the possibility of elo boosters.

Remember in season 2 pro players like SaintV, The Oddone and Reginald were stuck in plat for like 4 months? lol

The elo system rewarded and punished you accordingly. This new one rewards you, but slightly punishes you for winning/losing games. Then there is the whole never dropping out of the bottom of a division thing (which is being removed next season btw).

Edit: I couldn't find any hard stats I was just going off what I remember which was an estimate and apparently I was wrong at that as well. Diamond in season 2 was around 600 players according to this post on the league forums.

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/bo ... ?t=3151591

TL;DR It's much easier to climb this season compared to the previous ones.

Justykanna

1,090 posts

Joined April 2011

Justykanna 2013-10-18T17:40:13+00:00

Vulf wrote:
The elo system rewarded and punished you accordingly. This new one rewards you, but slightly punishes you for winning/losing games.

How does it not reward/punish you accordingly?
I know a post on the League site said that, assuming you go 50/50 in games, you generally 'gain' more LP than you lose, but I find that you gain/lose roughly the same amount. ~12-18 LP per game. Failed my promotion and got knocked down to 66 LP (I actually thought it only dropped you to roughly 75-85).

Vulf wrote:
Then there is the whole never dropping out of the bottom of a division thing (which is being removed next season btw).

A good idea imo.
Higher ranks would be inflated with people who got there by luck.
Where did you see that anyway? Forums?

Blaziken

611 posts

Joined June 2011

Blaziken 2013-10-18T19:02:02+00:00

Won two 4v5 games in a row because I am just THAT TOXIC!

This is the best thing I have read in forever. Call me blessed but I have never had lag issues on EUW.

GeeNX

1,081 posts

Joined June 2012

GeeNX 2013-10-18T19:20:45+00:00

I'm happy of the performance of our team on this Goes4LoL, we lost at quarterfinals and we lost vs the team that won last 3 Goes, we played really well imo

Kanye West

2,222 posts

Joined July 2011

Kanye West 2013-10-18T19:41:03+00:00

nice hopefully you guys get to semis next time

BrokenArrow

2,236 posts

Joined June 2010

BrokenArrow 2013-10-18T19:42:56+00:00

Am I the only one exeriencing framerate drops in ARAMs? On any other map I constantly get ~120fps even in teamfights but on the ARAM map I hardly reach 40fps without lowering the graphic settings. :/

Ralfzz

0 posts

Joined January 2013

Ralfzz 2013-10-18T19:43:15+00:00

This game was so much fun

also tryndamere username lol

PyaKura

2,084 posts

Joined January 2013

PyaKura 2013-10-18T19:58:27+00:00

OP botlane is OP.

Angeir is my bro. That score D:

My o!m maps

Kanye West

2,222 posts

Joined July 2011

Kanye West 2013-10-18T20:01:35+00:00

BrokenArrow wrote:
Where did you get those stats from? You also have to consider that there are a lot more LoL players out there than in Season 2
Won my first promotion game btw, had to play support. I was SO lucky that the only support I own is Taric and their team was full AD. I stacked around 300 armor until the end of the game, lol

The playerbase size doesn't matter. Just look at the percentage distribution in each league in season 2 compared to season 3.

S1 was something like:
Unranked: bottom 75%
Bronze: top 25%
Silver: top 10%
Gold: top 3%
Platinum: top 0.2%

S2 was something like this:
Bronze: bottom 50%
Silver: top 50%
Gold: top 10%
Platinum: top 1%
Diamond: top 0.1%

And S3:
Bronze: bottom 32-34%
Silver: top 66-68%
Gold: top 14-16%
Platinum: top 5-6%
Diamond: top 2%
Challenger: top 0.005%

When you have 6 times the percentage of plat players and 20 times as many diamond players between season 2 and season 3, you know there are issues with the system.

There's a reason why the only diamond players that play competitively or are well known are either very high diamond 1 or challenger, its because the skill difference between D1 0 LP and D1 100 LP is bigger than the difference between a silver 5 and plat 1 player. In season 2 the vast majority of diamond players were well known streamers, played competitively, or something else. Even high plat players fell into this category. Which shows how much differently distributed the ranked system is between seasons.

GeeNX

1,081 posts

Joined June 2012

GeeNX 2013-10-18T23:06:21+00:00

Kanye West wrote:
nice hopefully you guys get to semis next time

Thank you, also we lost to this guys

tyrael6192

706 posts

Joined October 2010

tyrael6192 2013-10-19T01:11:30+00:00

speaking of elo inflation

tiper

tiper 2013-10-19T02:07:05+00:00

At first I was like

But then

Hika

1,553 posts

Joined February 2010

Hika 2013-10-19T04:11:45+00:00

BrokenArrow wrote:
Am I the only one exeriencing framerate drops in ARAMs? On any other map I constantly get ~120fps even in teamfights but on the ARAM map I hardly reach 40fps without lowering the graphic settings. :/

I have horrible fps when I'm playing ARAMs. I have to lower the graphic settings in order to get past having 10 fps. >____<

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Navizel

2,982 posts

Joined April 2011

Navizel 2013-10-19T06:29:29+00:00

orz

MyAnimeList | lastfm | Steam | PSN | RYM

Devalix_old

127 posts

Joined December 2012

Devalix_old 2013-10-19T10:17:40+00:00

My friend hit diamond last night.

Teach me pls

BrokenArrow

2,236 posts

Joined June 2010

BrokenArrow 2013-10-19T12:23:07+00:00

Got promoted. \:D/
Just once more and I'll be in Gold, need to hurry

maal

maal 2013-10-19T14:44:05+00:00

tyrael6192 wrote:
speaking of elo inflation

you are making me more and more bitter omg

f i z i k

154 posts

Joined January 2013

f i z i k 2013-10-19T22:09:18+00:00

Kanye West wrote:
BrokenArrow wrote:
Where did you get those stats from? You also have to consider that there are a lot more LoL players out there than in Season 2
Won my first promotion game btw, had to play support. I was SO lucky that the only support I own is Taric and their team was full AD. I stacked around 300 armor until the end of the game, lol
The playerbase size doesn't matter. Just look at the percentage distribution in each league in season 2 compared to season 3.

S1 was something like:
Unranked: bottom 75%
Bronze: top 25%
Silver: top 10%
Gold: top 3%
Platinum: top 0.2%

S2 was something like this:
Bronze: bottom 50%
Silver: top 50%
Gold: top 10%
Platinum: top 1%
Diamond: top 0.1%

And S3:
Bronze: bottom 32-34%
Silver: top 66-68%
Gold: top 14-16%
Platinum: top 5-6%
Diamond: top 2%
Challenger: top 0.005%

When you have 6 times the percentage of plat players and 20 times as many diamond players between season 2 and season 3, you know there are issues with the system.

There's a reason why the only diamond players that play competitively or are well known are either very high diamond 1 or challenger, its because the skill difference between D1 0 LP and D1 100 LP is bigger than the difference between a silver 5 and plat 1 player. In season 2 the vast majority of diamond players were well known streamers, played competitively, or something else. Even high plat players fell into this category. Which shows how much differently distributed the ranked system is between seasons.

This is so true,I was about 2,3 in s2 and I got hr same people again after I hit like 70-80ish LP in d1. Sadly,the dreams of elo being brouht back wont ever be true

well,the idea of leagues is good but it was just executed badly :/

GeeNX

1,081 posts

Joined June 2012

GeeNX 2013-10-19T22:12:23+00:00

plat I again, letsseehowthisgoes

La Volpe

434 posts

Joined April 2013

La Volpe 2013-10-20T00:17:02+00:00

I should play Sona more and those were all ranked games lol.

tyrael6192

706 posts

Joined October 2010

tyrael6192 2013-10-20T01:22:07+00:00

i've lost like 6 games in a row and i still haven't dropped to plat 2 what the hell

Kanye West

2,222 posts

Joined July 2011

Kanye West 2013-10-20T04:43:47+00:00

Because your MMR is still plat1.

ItsukiKun

2 posts

Joined March 2013

ItsukiKun 2013-10-20T09:00:26+00:00

I'm pretty sure there's a period in which you can't get demoted right after promoted to another division.

BrokenArrow

2,236 posts

Joined June 2010

BrokenArrow 2013-10-20T09:32:09+00:00

haha oh man Dominion is fun

GeeNX

1,081 posts

Joined June 2012

GeeNX 2013-10-20T09:40:16+00:00

I lost 1 game in platinum I 0 LP, I am sure if I lose this one I am getting demoted.

Meh, I hate watching profiles of people that wins 7 games as top , mid, jungle or adc and finishes almost negative in all of them, then I watch my loses....

I feel like I have to go all try hard to win a game

maal

maal 2013-10-20T11:01:35+00:00

back to gold 3 yeeeeeeep

Vulf

17 posts

Joined November 2009

Vulf 2013-10-20T11:20:09+00:00

ItsukiKun wrote:
I'm pretty sure there's a period in which you can't get demoted right after promoted to another division.

There is it's called a grace period and it's like 3-5 losses then it goes off your MMR. You can pretty much lose like 10 games in a row and not get demoted. This is what I mean when I say the new ranked system is babied down.

Bring elo back 2014!

BrokenArrow

2,236 posts

Joined June 2010

BrokenArrow 2013-10-20T15:50:35+00:00

Why do so few people play Annie mid lane?
I honestly can't see what's not awesome about her. She might get countered by high range early game, but that's pretty much irrelevant when you stay on top of them in teamfights mid- to lategame. I just build her tanky with RoA, Liandry's and Rylai's and rip them apart. I honestly can't see any mage who can somehow compete with her kit, survivability and aoe damage output. Anything I forgot about her? Why would people play her support when she's such a great mid laner?

maal

maal 2013-10-20T16:16:45+00:00

BrokenArrow wrote:
Why do so few people play Annie mid lane?
I honestly can't see what's not awesome about her. She might get countered by high range early game, but that's pretty much irrelevant when you stay on top of them in teamfights mid- to lategame. I just build her tanky with RoA, Liandry's and Rylai's and rip them apart. I honestly can't see any mage who can somehow compete with her kit, survivability and aoe damage output. Anything I forgot about her? Why would people play her support when she's such a great mid laner?

because the meta says otherwise, assassins control the game atm

she scales bad into lategame

"countered by high range"???? annie has one of the highest ranges

BrokenArrow

2,236 posts

Joined June 2010

BrokenArrow 2013-10-20T16:18:49+00:00

her spells don't

GeeNX

1,081 posts

Joined June 2012

GeeNX 2013-10-20T16:25:30+00:00

She doesn't scale bad into lategame, now the meta is about assasins with mobility. Mobility is what she lack of

maal

maal 2013-10-20T16:32:04+00:00

BrokenArrow wrote:
her spells don't

*her E doesnt

Jordan

1,037 posts

Joined December 2010

Jordan 2013-10-20T17:03:05+00:00

BrokenArrow wrote:
Why do so few people play Annie mid lane?
I honestly can't see what's not awesome about her. She might get countered by high range early game, but that's pretty much irrelevant when you stay on top of them in teamfights mid- to lategame. I just build her tanky with RoA, Liandry's and Rylai's and rip them apart. I honestly can't see any mage who can somehow compete with her kit, survivability and aoe damage output. Anything I forgot about her? Why would people play her support when she's such a great mid laner?

5 people bear-stun op

Kanye West

2,222 posts

Joined July 2011

Kanye West 2013-10-20T17:43:38+00:00

BrokenArrow wrote:
Why do so few people play Annie mid lane?
I honestly can't see what's not awesome about her. She might get countered by high range early game, but that's pretty much irrelevant when you stay on top of them in teamfights mid- to lategame. I just build her tanky with RoA, Liandry's and Rylai's and rip them apart. I honestly can't see any mage who can somehow compete with her kit, survivability and aoe damage output. Anything I forgot about her? Why would people play her support when she's such a great mid laner?

She has no mobility so she has to rely on a carry making a positional error or her flash being up in order to get a good initiation. She can be kited if she doesn't have a flash up. She's not very good with her ult down. Her lategame scaling isn't that good. She gets destroyed by bruisers unless you're really fed. etc. Sure she can 100-0 a carry and aoe stun but there are others that do her job better.

Vulf

17 posts

Joined November 2009

Vulf 2013-10-20T18:15:06+00:00

I really miss when high burst mages like Annie and Brand were played all the time. Then all the adc mains started bitching about being one shotted and they got nerfed. Then the mobility creep happened.

maal

maal 2013-10-20T19:11:41+00:00

fucking tyrael gonna beat you up soon

Navizel

2,982 posts

Joined April 2011

Navizel 2013-10-20T21:50:58+00:00

smurfs + scumbag adc combined