Yeah it's definitely up to the supports. Maybe Draven was a bad example, my point is that he can zone people out really easily if he can get E and max amount of Q once. That doesn't drain your mana too badly but it does drain their HP really badly.
Kanye West wrote:I think draven vs urgot is even and probably decided by the supports, especially considering draven doesn't need mana to harass while urgot has mana problems in early laning
plus, urgot is very reliant on hitting his E+Q to get his damage off, while draven just needs to press q and auto.
Though Urgot is in a spot where you actually have to know how to play him to be succesful, a good urgot is still a nightmare for unwary ad carries.
That's easy, say "taking anything needed" in champ select.
Glass wrote:how the fuck do you get to plat and still not have a preferred role
I guess they don't want to make a hassle in champ select by calling roles, but when they fail they blame it on whoever left them the role.
Bad way to do things, but not the worst.