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Jordan
Come on guys as long as your teammates suck so do the enemies. As long as you're better than them you'll still win 55/60% of your games. Which will get you to climb. Otherwise you just deserve your tier like they do
Kanye West
Kiwipie is so legit holy shit god bless
Miyu

Navizel wrote:

#stuckinelohell
I dont even try to get outa it.
Northern

Miyu wrote:

Navizel wrote:

#stuckinelohell
I dont even try to get outa it.
What if i told you.. that there is no elo hell? :o
Cyclohexane
I love playing with people that are higher ranked/have more wins than me

dragthemdown.mp3
Sapphiire_old_1


me gusta
SiFly_old

Navizel wrote:

So call order is useless in ranked?

Well still, they got what they wanted and I'm always stuck in support but shit, they still lose their lanes and most of the time my adc just auto-attacking and not even getting cs.
I'm happy to play support, but I don't even get that adc that start auto attacking the wave. Even when I tell them to do so, they keep afk last hitting. Low elo problems ;(
erOL0liSENSei
YEY DIAMOND!~
Sapphiire_old_1

- [ R a Y ] - wrote:

YEY DIAMOND!~
Gratz :D
Sapphiire_old_1
My Fellow Bronzies here are some awsome tips i saw on reddit :

SPOILER
-Learn to glance at minimap after every cs you take.

-Always buy Doran Shield on support

-Forget about top. In low elo all that matters is mid and bot lane. As jungler gank less top than other lanes, as bot laner after you take down bot go push mid, never top.

-Stop chasing vertically! Chase only if the opponent is fleeing towards objective (baron, inhib, mid turret). Don't chase after won teamfight from mid to bot or top, it's a huge waste of time. Plus chasing never ends good.

-Don't buy sweeping trinket at start. Low elo already lacks vision so bad you don't want to provide even less. Grab that yellow and later sell it for sweeper once you get eg. sighstone.

-Don't blow all your combo at once. You can obviously initiate buy then wait for opponent's move. Then you react with follow-up or disengage.

-People tend to think Ezreal is a safe pick against Thresh or Leona because he can dash away. When you play Thresh and you are certain you can kill him do the following: grab, pull yourself towards him, flash foward, use the box. This will result in him dashing into your box. Always take ignite as support to secure kills. Leona can kill freshly put ward with AA+Q+AA combo. So does Renekton, basically everyone whos abilities reset AA.

-When you are pushed hard to your turret playing as mid laner, ward the center of mid lane. That way you will know when enemy's mid is going to roam and can follow or ping retreat asap.

-Always pull red/blue into the bush.

-If you are doing jungle camp and you see fight start breaking up near you, leave the camp immediately and rush to help. Killing or an assist is better than camp of wolves.

-Don’t smite by looking at monster health bar. You can hover over smite icon to see how much damage the spell does. Then click on monster and can see in left top corner health. Plan your smite to do the killing blow.

-you need 55% win ratio for steady easy climb. That's 11 won games out of 20. Not that much is it?

-Take a break after 2 lost games. Don't ever start new one when you still thinking about the last one.

-You have to carry yourself but not in terms of kills but being the mindset behind your team. You need to time objectives, decide when to take them and tell team what to do next, ping retreat etc. It's much more work than just killing people.

-There is no such thing as “Kass fed at 10 min mark = game lost”. There’s not. It makes the game harder at beginning but you can eventually catch up in late by farming and taking objectives. Early game advantage does not translate to late game advantage so sometimes it’s just better to turtle and stall for late when that Nasus and Vayne of ours are op.

-If you are scarried of opponent champion and don’t know how to counter him, play something no-mana based. It will allow you to trade more efficiently and you will need to worry only on staying alive not on how often you can trade based on your available mana.

-There is no such thing like perfect game. You gonna make mistakes. The goal is to make less mistakes than your opponent.

-Thresh's E counters Leona's E if timed properly. Same goes for Jarvan's Demacian Standard dash, Lee Sin's Q and Fizz's Q.

-Always take ignite for support. Exhaust is just such a waste spell right now unless you are premades.

-If your midlaner died quickly 2-3 times, deny him blue. It's more likely that he will die, wasting the buff alongside, then do sth useful with it. If you can feel it that you could be better with it just take it and ignore his whining.

-When you start red as jungler and know enemy jugler is starting blue, put a trinket at 3-bush when you are ganking top lane after your blue. 95% cases in low elo enemy's jungler will gank after his read, you will see that coming way ahead.
BrokenArrow
Most of those tips are either common sense or stupid speculations based on bronze stereotypes
Also I personally don't grab Doran's Shield first as a support because I prefer having a support item + a ward and a bunch of potions over it. Leona might be the only exception for me.
Sapphiire_old_1

BrokenArrow wrote:

Most of those tips are either common sense
maybe for u , but thats not the case for every one
Snepif

BrokenArrow wrote:

Most of those tips are either common sense or stupid speculations based on bronze stereotypes
Also I personally don't grab Doran's Shield first as a support because I prefer having a support item + a ward and a bunch of potions over it. Leona might be the only exception for me.
As a Diamond 1 player here I can tell you they are incredibly useful to catch up with the current meta, and all of the scenarios are right. Also, grabbing Dorans Shield is somewhat of a must right now if you don't wanna die in a lvl 2/3/6 all in. You don't need so many wards early, since most junglers won't gank bot at 3-4 minute mark unless you are really pushed, and even then, you still have 2 trinkets.
Like Yi says, the real master is an eternal student. I love learning tips even though I'm "high elo".
Vulf
Dorans Shield is overpowered on tanky defense tree abusing champions.

People all in too much bottom lane and I like to abuse that. I pretty much only play support Warwick now because it's too hilarious.
Ceph23

Navizel wrote:

LoL PH: Trashtalk, kill steal, role steal, and non-existent supports.

I don't really want to criticize lol ph more but I just can't help it. Is Yi and Teemo still overused there?
Teemo and Yi are no longer overused here.
I'm not proud of it, in fact I'm ashamed of it, but yeah gaming etiquette here in the Philippines is close to non-existent. Its just Blame here and blame that accompanied with endless trash talking and people shouting "KS amputa!!" with is roughly translated to "You sole my kill. FUCK YOU!!!".
There is occasionally the really nice, good and supportive player that you just love to play with. But chances are, unless you play with friends that you know, you'll end up playing with really rude players.

And I was plat 2 last season. I hope these people would start using some brain cells.
GeeNX

SoG Tava wrote:

BrokenArrow wrote:

Most of those tips are either common sense
maybe for u , but thats not the case for every one
I have to agree with SoG Tava, if both supports are skilled (thing I am not) if one of them doesn't have doran's shield probably he's fucked, and it's really hard to trade since the reduction damage it's fucking op
ItsukiKun

Miyu wrote:

ItsukiKun wrote:


"Meh... Whatever, this always happens anyway."
*Queues, Finds match*

This is how it ends.
Legit then EUW
But then... it's NOT EUW! (It's PH, the EUW of Garena servers)

Ceph23 wrote:

Navizel wrote:

LoL PH: Trashtalk, kill steal, role steal, and non-existent supports.

I don't really want to criticize lol ph more but I just can't help it. Is Yi and Teemo still overused there?
Teemo and Yi are no longer overused here.
I'm not proud of it, in fact I'm ashamed of it, but yeah gaming etiquette here in the Philippines is close to non-existent. Its just Blame here and blame that accompanied with endless trash talking and people shouting "KS amputa!!" with is roughly translated to "You sole my kill. FUCK YOU!!!".
There is occasionally the really nice, good and supportive player that you just love to play with. But chances are, unless you play with friends that you know, you'll end up playing with really rude players.

And I was plat 2 last season. I hope these people would start using some brain cells.
If you play with friends and get matched with other premades, then sometimes the people are actually really fun to play with, but you can just mute everyone in soloq 95% of the time without missing out on anything important.
maal
doorman shield is fucking strong on any support nowadays

ur dumb if u go without it
BrokenArrow
Guess I'm dumb then
it still works
GeeNX
Today I saw BrokenArrow ragequitting so hard from a game
also


Im climbing quite nicely, even though I had a bad streak recently and I got a bit pissed of some tards :<

PS: Why +29 and I have 26? I had to dodge a queue because we were gonna play with 3 junglers... and nah, I didnt want to get even more stressed
Vulf
With the removal of clamping I expect a ton of people to start abusing the MMR system to get free LP soon. LOL

I already see people in high diamond with like 50 loses over wins... LMAO
tyrael6192
????? how

haven't safety nets at the bottom of leagues been removed
Vulf
You still have to lose a lot of games to get demoted and you get a warning before so.
BrokenArrow

GeeNX wrote:

Today I saw BrokenArrow ragequitting so hard from a game
Yo just for clarification, I ragequit when the game was already over, not during the game. I don't do that anymore :p
But yeah when you have a 0/15 top lane Riven and a jungle Renekton feeding intentionally while your adc and you as a midlaner get fed as fuck but still aren't able to pull out a win because all of the enemies are just as fed as you sucks
And in the next game you literally lose the whole game because your freaking Zhonya's was placed on the wrong hotkey sucks even more. ;-;
No LP gains today, sad day.
Also I'm planning to buy Vi since she has been giving me lots of trouble. Do I have to be scared of he getting nerfed soon?
Agnes


Malz jungle. Terrifying/10. Or as Sync says it, "a solid spooky."
Sapphiire_old_1
I think Snoopeh did Jungle malza on stream with great succes
Fabi
The sensation is so good when you win a 3v5 game :D. Game lasted 50 minutes!. The funny thing is that I couldn't connect to the game the first 5-10 min, Blitz dc around 35 and Warwick at 40.
TKiller
Meh. Meanwhile I'm on a losing streak but still can't stop picking Katarina.

After not picking her for a long time she's incredibly fun. The damage she does in a shortest amount your enemy is vulnerable is incredible, but I don't feel like you can carry the game reliably solo with her. Her laning is incredibly safe in a majority of matchups. She can get a team with a slight advantage whole lot more ahead or capitalise on a slightest throw in deadliest way, but something is missing. Maybe I'm still doing something wrong.

I guess I'll keep picking her unless I get demoted past G3. Into the jungle till plat then and back to Katarina spam.
Seph


i have no regrets buying her, amazing champ
Blaziken
How to carry as support? If i'm last pick all the time I better learn how.
scottyyy
Learn to properly posture and trade in lane. Keep bush control. The amount of supports I see who just sit behind me (AD main) and not do anything at all makes me sad. Have presence and make sure the enemy knows you're there ready to fuck them up if they step too close. When a fight happens, position yourself so that the enemy wants to hit you instead of the AD. Don't stand on the edge of auto attack range and try to take as little damage as possible. I see people try to play support like they're a carry and it's wrong way to play. Every ability or auto put on you instead of the AD significantly improves the chance of winning the fight.

Or just play Annie.
Blaziken
Annie, got it.
But seriously, thanks.
TKiller
It's either Annie where you go and outdamage everything 1v2.

Or Leona, where you go melee lvl 1 and start slapping people in the gabber. If your AD is following and shooting while enemies are like "wtf dis guy doin", you back off and keep getting levels waiting to smack opponents. If your AD is all "wtf Leona noob don't go in I need to cs" start pleading your jungler to gank.

But in all seriousness, just try to create opportunities for your team or at least notice those that people miss being too busy pvping or gathering creep gold. Your damage is going to be lacking later in the game, given you build traditionally, so build to be able to tank some hits and elude forth the enemy backline and back to those in need during fights. Disrupt as much as you can (seriously, as much as you can, build a bloody Rylai's on Soraka and be a Singed). Watch out for useful auras not picked up by your team and situations where you should build a Crucible.

Ward things. Don't underestimate pink ward baiting potential.

Don't be a Leona ulting and Zenith blading enemy carry only to leave your silly AD behind to be destroyed by that top laner.
GeeNX

scottyyy wrote:

Learn to properly posture and trade in lane. Keep bush control. The amount of supports I see who just sit behind me (AD main) and not do anything at all makes me sad. Have presence and make sure the enemy knows you're there ready to fuck them up if they step too close. When a fight happens, position yourself so that the enemy wants to hit you instead of the AD. Don't stand on the edge of auto attack range and try to take as little damage as possible. I see people try to play support like they're a carry and it's wrong way to play. Every ability or auto put on you instead of the AD significantly improves the chance of winning the fight.

Or just play Annie.
At least with Annie you need the slightlest idea of how to support , my friends that main support say that with her it's the easiest to carry on soloQ, but if you suck at it, just go for leona, leona is FULL YOLO. EASY, and you can 1vs1 the ad carry way too easy
TKiller
Leona is simply perfect for soloq. An initiate that is signalised fast enough for your enemies to be unable to walk out of it completely without losing a dash but not fast enough for your teammates to miss it and not react properly.

Gap closer that stuns chainable into another stun.

Resistance steroid that makes you just brush off most mistakes you do.

And free damage for teammates that will be fully procked in teamfights even if you suck dick at chaining the passive well.

Just get that 40 armor page and go for it, champion.

Sun fucking power.
Blaziken
Annie and Leona, got it. How about Lulu, any opinions or advice?
TKiller
Doubt we have any Lulu enthusiasts around here.

She's strong but whole lot less forgiving if you misuse/miss something.
f i z i k

TKiller wrote:

Doubt we have any Lulu enthusiasts around here.

She's strong but whole lot less forgiving if you misuse/miss something.
lulu is fun but takes a lot of dedication to not mess up on. been tryin' to pick her up again but i'd have to spam her for like 30 games to get decent again so whatever,but i guess it will be worth it
also legit thresh counter
Sankaritarina

Blaziken wrote:

How to carry as support? If i'm last pick all the time I better learn how.
Depends on tier you're in. Leona is basically a free win below Platinum. She's strong in every division but she can literally carry Bronze/Silver/Gold games alone. Otherwise, Annie and Thresh are strong picks.

Lulu is great if you have hypercarries or just carries that can provide consistent damage in teamfights, but not champions like Varus, Ez or Miss Fortune (unless of course you just want to wreck enemies in laning phase, in which case she goes really well with those champions. But I personally pick her more for survivability she provides for ADC in teamfights so I avoid having those ADCs in team when picking Lulu). She requires more skill than Leona/Annie and is usually less rewarding. But she is certainly fun to play.
GeeNX

TKiller wrote:

Doubt we have any Lulu enthusiasts around here.

She's strong but whole lot less forgiving if you misuse/miss something.


what do you say about Lulu? when I play support I always pick her xD
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