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SHK - Holic

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ktgster
Elite Mapper
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Joined November 2008
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ktgster
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 4:59:54 PM

Artist: SHK
Title: Holic
Source: EZ2ON
Tags: EZ2DJ
BPM: 150.06
Filesize: 3420kb
Play Time: 01:53
Difficulties Available:
  1. Advanced (3.14 stars, 253 notes)
  2. Easy (1.88 stars, 103 notes)
  3. Hard (3.82 stars, 313 notes)
  4. Insane (4.47 stars, 411 notes)
  5. Normal (2.45 stars, 154 notes)
  6. SHD (5.52 stars, 519 notes)
Download: SHK - Holic
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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reupload for setting adjustments
Last edited by ktgster , edited 8 times in total.
Ongaku
607 posts
Joined January 2014
Ongaku
UndeadCapulet
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Joined April 2013
UndeadCapulet
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2016-01-13 22:36 ktgster: hello, are you able to mod a map?
2016-01-13 22:38 UndeadCapulet: sure i guess
2016-01-13 22:39 ktgster: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/829598 SHK - Holic]
2016-01-13 22:40 UndeadCapulet: would you prefer irc or forum post
2016-01-13 22:40 ktgster: either would be fine
2016-01-13 22:43 UndeadCapulet: sad you're not mapping the 1/8 stuff
2016-01-13 22:44 ktgster: theres only one occasion where i hear 1/8
2016-01-13 22:44 UndeadCapulet: 00:15:832 (2,3,4) - 
2016-01-13 22:45 UndeadCapulet: i guess it's fine because you're not really following that kind of thing
2016-01-13 22:46 UndeadCapulet: can you lower the stack leniency so stuff like 01:28:826 (13,1) - doesn't stack
2016-01-13 22:49 ktgster: nope
2016-01-13 22:49 UndeadCapulet: .-. o
2016-01-13 22:49 ktgster: lets just say, 0 doesnt' even stack it
2016-01-13 22:50 UndeadCapulet: doesn't 3 fix it
2016-01-13 22:50 UndeadCapulet: or is there some stacking you want to happen somewhere
2016-01-13 22:51 ktgster: oh well, just moved some streams around
2016-01-13 22:51 UndeadCapulet: ok lol
2016-01-13 22:53 UndeadCapulet: 01:03:626 (1,2) - maybe lower ds between these since the pitch is lower here
2016-01-13 22:54 ktgster: considering that this is more based on gameplay, i rather not change that
2016-01-13 22:54 UndeadCapulet: yeah figured
2016-01-13 22:54 ktgster: a lot of this is symmetry based so changing one thing wouldn't work
2016-01-13 22:56 UndeadCapulet: 01:39:626 (5) - maybe nc this idk, to break up the back and forth jumps like you've done earlier
2016-01-13 22:57 ktgster: im thinking more of changing the stream tbh
2016-01-13 22:57 ktgster: its really really weird to play
2016-01-13 22:58 UndeadCapulet: lol
2016-01-13 22:58 UndeadCapulet: you mean the design or the placement?
2016-01-13 22:58 ktgster: but the NC wouldn't do much
2016-01-13 22:58 ktgster: placement
2016-01-13 22:59 ktgster: the NCing is based on measures instead of patterns
2016-01-13 22:59 ktgster: if it was pattern based, things like 01:02:426 (3) - would be NC'd
2016-01-13 22:59 ktgster: the NCing is also like this to keep drain at controllable parts
2016-01-13 22:59 UndeadCapulet: 00:23:629 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3) - ??
2016-01-13 22:59 UndeadCapulet: 00:41:222 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - this was the main thing i was talking about earlier
2016-01-13 23:00 ktgster: o
2016-01-13 23:00 ktgster: k changed
2016-01-13 23:00 ktgster: as for the jumps, is it too high?
2016-01-13 23:00 UndeadCapulet: lmao
2016-01-13 23:01 ktgster: most of my testing have been able to consistently hit those jumps
2016-01-13 23:01 ktgster: its also just 3 circles, not a bramble of jumps you see in common maps
2016-01-13 23:01 UndeadCapulet: i think the main thing is that the pacing is weird
2016-01-13 23:01 UndeadCapulet: you've got
2016-01-13 23:01 UndeadCapulet: 00:22:629 (1) - huge slowdown
2016-01-13 23:01 UndeadCapulet: 00:23:629 (1,2,1,2,3) - straight into massive jumps
2016-01-13 23:02 ktgster: the slowdown is still accompanied by a huge jump
2016-01-13 23:02 ktgster: if anything, the longer you make that slider, the less obvious that the huge jumps are coming
2016-01-13 23:03 ktgster: as a note, most of this map is inspired by this old map hence why the slowdown
2016-01-13 23:03 ktgster: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/66721 SHK - Holic]
2016-01-13 23:03 ktgster: wait...
2016-01-13 23:06 ktgster: kk gave 00:22:629 (1,2) - a jump
2016-01-13 23:06 UndeadCapulet: yeah i think that helps
2016-01-13 23:07 UndeadCapulet: guess i'll move on to the insane then
2016-01-13 23:08 ktgster: one thing i see with this insane is that it might be too easy
2016-01-13 23:08 UndeadCapulet: am i tripping balls or is 00:26:028 (3,4,5,1) - not straight
2016-01-13 23:09 ktgster: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4331048 well]
2016-01-13 23:11 UndeadCapulet: lmao it's a pixel off
2016-01-13 23:11 UndeadCapulet: excuse me as i go back to modding things that matter
2016-01-13 23:11 ktgster: loooool
2016-01-13 23:11 UndeadCapulet: yeah i think your kiais could be a little harder probably
2016-01-13 23:12 UndeadCapulet: especially because right now you have 01:07:426 (5,6) - here for some reason
2016-01-13 23:12 UndeadCapulet: compared to everything else it's crazy
2016-01-13 23:15 UndeadCapulet: i dont know man, i hate modding, sometimes i feel like i have no idea what im doing
2016-01-13 23:19 ktgster: ehh
2016-01-13 23:20 UndeadCapulet: for advanced: 00:35:624 (3) - you've been spinning clockwise for a while, this might be a good point to change that
2016-01-13 23:21 ktgster: k thats an easy change
2016-01-13 23:23 UndeadCapulet: the triplets in that diff might be a bit of a diff spike, since they weren't in the first half of the map
2016-01-13 23:24 ktgster: its more of an introduction
2016-01-13 23:24 ktgster: and introducing it any earlier wouldn't be wise
2016-01-13 23:24 UndeadCapulet: sure sure
2016-01-13 23:24 UndeadCapulet: normal and easy seem fine to me
2016-01-13 23:25 UndeadCapulet: 150bpm lets you get away with a lot of jumps in the higher diffs, so i think everything else is fine too
2016-01-13 23:27 UndeadCapulet: so i guess i'll post the log now?
2016-01-13 23:27 ktgster: yeah that'll be fine
2016-01-13 22:36 ktgster: hello, are you able to mod a map?
2016-01-13 22:38 UndeadCapulet: sure i guess
2016-01-13 22:39 ktgster: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/829598 SHK - Holic]
2016-01-13 22:40 UndeadCapulet: would you prefer irc or forum post
2016-01-13 22:40 ktgster: either would be fine
2016-01-13 22:43 UndeadCapulet: sad you're not mapping the 1/8 stuff
2016-01-13 22:44 ktgster: theres only one occasion where i hear 1/8
2016-01-13 22:44 UndeadCapulet: 00:15:832 (2,3,4) - 
2016-01-13 22:45 UndeadCapulet: i guess it's fine because you're not really following that kind of thing
2016-01-13 22:46 UndeadCapulet: can you lower the stack leniency so stuff like 01:28:826 (13,1) - doesn't stack
2016-01-13 22:49 ktgster: nope
2016-01-13 22:49 UndeadCapulet: .-. o
2016-01-13 22:49 ktgster: lets just say, 0 doesnt' even stack it
2016-01-13 22:50 UndeadCapulet: doesn't 3 fix it
2016-01-13 22:50 UndeadCapulet: or is there some stacking you want to happen somewhere
2016-01-13 22:51 ktgster: oh well, just moved some streams around
2016-01-13 22:51 UndeadCapulet: ok lol
2016-01-13 22:53 UndeadCapulet: 01:03:626 (1,2) - maybe lower ds between these since the pitch is lower here
2016-01-13 22:54 ktgster: considering that this is more based on gameplay, i rather not change that
2016-01-13 22:54 UndeadCapulet: yeah figured
2016-01-13 22:54 ktgster: a lot of this is symmetry based so changing one thing wouldn't work
2016-01-13 22:56 UndeadCapulet: 01:39:626 (5) - maybe nc this idk, to break up the back and forth jumps like you've done earlier
2016-01-13 22:57 ktgster: im thinking more of changing the stream tbh
2016-01-13 22:57 ktgster: its really really weird to play
2016-01-13 22:58 UndeadCapulet: lol
2016-01-13 22:58 UndeadCapulet: you mean the design or the placement?
2016-01-13 22:58 ktgster: but the NC wouldn't do much
2016-01-13 22:58 ktgster: placement
2016-01-13 22:59 ktgster: the NCing is based on measures instead of patterns
2016-01-13 22:59 ktgster: if it was pattern based, things like 01:02:426 (3) - would be NC'd
2016-01-13 22:59 ktgster: the NCing is also like this to keep drain at controllable parts
2016-01-13 22:59 UndeadCapulet: 00:23:629 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3) - ??
2016-01-13 22:59 UndeadCapulet: 00:41:222 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - this was the main thing i was talking about earlier
2016-01-13 23:00 ktgster: o
2016-01-13 23:00 ktgster: k changed
2016-01-13 23:00 ktgster: as for the jumps, is it too high?
2016-01-13 23:00 UndeadCapulet: lmao
2016-01-13 23:01 ktgster: most of my testing have been able to consistently hit those jumps
2016-01-13 23:01 ktgster: its also just 3 circles, not a bramble of jumps you see in common maps
2016-01-13 23:01 UndeadCapulet: i think the main thing is that the pacing is weird
2016-01-13 23:01 UndeadCapulet: you've got
2016-01-13 23:01 UndeadCapulet: 00:22:629 (1) - huge slowdown
2016-01-13 23:01 UndeadCapulet: 00:23:629 (1,2,1,2,3) - straight into massive jumps
2016-01-13 23:02 ktgster: the slowdown is still accompanied by a huge jump
2016-01-13 23:02 ktgster: if anything, the longer you make that slider, the less obvious that the huge jumps are coming
2016-01-13 23:03 ktgster: as a note, most of this map is inspired by this old map hence why the slowdown
2016-01-13 23:03 ktgster: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/66721 SHK - Holic]
2016-01-13 23:03 ktgster: wait...
2016-01-13 23:06 ktgster: kk gave 00:22:629 (1,2) - a jump
2016-01-13 23:06 UndeadCapulet: yeah i think that helps
2016-01-13 23:07 UndeadCapulet: guess i'll move on to the insane then
2016-01-13 23:08 ktgster: one thing i see with this insane is that it might be too easy
2016-01-13 23:08 UndeadCapulet: am i tripping balls or is 00:26:028 (3,4,5,1) - not straight
2016-01-13 23:09 ktgster: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4331048 well]
2016-01-13 23:11 UndeadCapulet: lmao it's a pixel off
2016-01-13 23:11 UndeadCapulet: excuse me as i go back to modding things that matter
2016-01-13 23:11 ktgster: loooool
2016-01-13 23:11 UndeadCapulet: yeah i think your kiais could be a little harder probably
2016-01-13 23:12 UndeadCapulet: especially because right now you have 01:07:426 (5,6) - here for some reason
2016-01-13 23:12 UndeadCapulet: compared to everything else it's crazy
2016-01-13 23:15 UndeadCapulet: i dont know man, i hate modding, sometimes i feel like i have no idea what im doing
2016-01-13 23:19 ktgster: ehh
2016-01-13 23:20 UndeadCapulet: for advanced: 00:35:624 (3) - you've been spinning clockwise for a while, this might be a good point to change that
2016-01-13 23:21 ktgster: k thats an easy change
2016-01-13 23:23 UndeadCapulet: the triplets in that diff might be a bit of a diff spike, since they weren't in the first half of the map
2016-01-13 23:24 ktgster: its more of an introduction
2016-01-13 23:24 ktgster: and introducing it any earlier wouldn't be wise
2016-01-13 23:24 UndeadCapulet: sure sure
2016-01-13 23:24 UndeadCapulet: normal and easy seem fine to me
2016-01-13 23:25 UndeadCapulet: 150bpm lets you get away with a lot of jumps in the higher diffs, so i think everything else is fine too
2016-01-13 23:27 UndeadCapulet: so i guess i'll post the log now?
2016-01-13 23:27 ktgster: yeah that'll be fine
Halfslashed
Global Moderator
425 posts
Joined July 2014
Halfslashed
[SHD]
All I can offer are suggestions based on my own interpretation of the music and the style I think you're trying to represent.
00:17:231 (1,2,3,4,5) - Why not put 5 in the upper right corner for a linear pattern? I don't really feel the emphasis on 4 that justifies a right angle'd jump, but the notes do increase in pitch. Also leads to a common pattern seen in some earlier mapping where a note would end on a different quadrant of the screen than the next note.
00:18:830 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same as above, except 5 would go in the bottom right corner.
00:24:428 (1,2,3) - Is this pattern intentionally rotated?
00:26:028 (1,2,3) - ^
00:27:627 (1,2,3) - ^
00:34:824 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - Try to replicate 00:28:427 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13), but rotated 90 degrees, I think it would help for pattern cosistency. Adjust spacing if necessary
01:12:426 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Is this also intentionally rotated?

Pretty much all I can do/question, this is a pretty nice map though!
ktgster
Elite Mapper
482 posts
Joined November 2008
Topic Starter
ktgster
Halfslashed

Halfslashed wrote:

[SHD]
All I can offer are suggestions based on my own interpretation of the music and the style I think you're trying to represent.
00:17:231 (1,2,3,4,5) - Why not put 5 in the upper right corner for a linear pattern? I don't really feel the emphasis on 4 that justifies a right angle'd jump, but the notes do increase in pitch. Also leads to a common pattern seen in some earlier mapping where a note would end on a different quadrant of the screen than the next note. - changed
00:18:830 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same as above, except 5 would go in the bottom right corner. - pattern changes happened which basically prevented this from working
00:24:428 (1,2,3) - Is this pattern intentionally rotated? - yes
00:26:028 (1,2,3) - ^
00:27:627 (1,2,3) - ^
00:34:824 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - Try to replicate 00:28:427 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13), but rotated 90 degrees, I think it would help for pattern cosistency. Adjust spacing if necessary - the songs aren't really the same, this part is more intense than the other part. I did increase the spacing for the jumps though
01:12:426 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Is this also intentionally rotated? - yes

Pretty much all I can do/question, this is a pretty nice map though!
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