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Alpe

Joined December 2014

Alpe 2015-12-19T19:58:47+00:00

Just a few 'things' which should get changed (You don't have to change them)

[Luxo's Easy]
00:34:967 (1,2) - Do that to this.
00:37:774 (1,2) - Do this more perfectly.

[Advanced]
00:02:160 (2,3,1) - Maybe same DS?
00:30:405 (1,2) - Do that to this.

[Frey's Insane]
00:05:494 (1,3) - I like it like this more.

This map is nice! Please requalify it again!

Qiyana

1,585 posts

Joined April 2014

Qiyana 2015-12-19T20:16:10+00:00

From my queue!

Frey's Insane

[General]
Nothing
[Modding Itself]
00:04:967 (3) - Add a clap on the beginning of this slider.

Wow not much mistakes.

Frey

1,205 posts

Joined February 2011

Frey 2015-12-20T15:03:25+00:00

Azulae wrote:
[Frey's Insane]
00:05:494 (1,3) - I like it like this more. not much need to, current structure is fine too.

Dyl-Byl wrote:
From my queue!
Frey's Insane
[Modding Itself]
00:04:967 (3) - Add a clap on the beginning of this slider. Whistle you mean? well fixed.

Thanks for your mod! and I adjusted some parts

CODE

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Kyouren

5,583 posts

Joined October 2012

Topic Starter

Kyouren 2015-12-21T15:11:25+00:00

Fixed all, etc 00:02:160 (2,3,1) - Maybe same DS? in advanced diff, because i used distance snap!
Thanks for mod, Dyl-Byl and Azulae~ :3

Upgrade~ <3

Sieg

3,981 posts

Joined February 2012

Sieg 2015-12-21T15:49:20+00:00

Hello, 3 diffs, as requested :3

[General]

No video in {Frey's Insane}
It's hard to read white repeat arrow on the yellow combo color.
I suggest you to rise OD for all diffcultes to (AR-0.5 ~ AR-1) level as most common settings for plain rhythm-timng map. This is also gives better rewards for good accuracy players.
Normal claps in kiai are great for diversity but imo placed not rhythmically.

[Luxo's Easy]

00:08:301 (1) - Time to recovery for Easy level difficulties must be bigger.
Just copied hitsounds are not wrking here. e.g. 00:14:090 (3) sudden soft set
00:16:897 (3) - ^ and so on, you should go through whole diff and adjust this.

[Advanced]

00:16:897 (1) - Soft set without hitsounds sounds empty here.

[Frey's Insane]

00:08:125 (5,1) - This jump is absurd. Too large to reflect anything is the song, huge difficulty spike and placed just for the symmetry sake.
00:08:652 (3,4,5) - Awkward flow transfer here. You may "reset" flow by stacking 00:08:652 (3,4) - this will make tranfer to 00:09:002 (5) - much better.

I don't have any more complains about this 3 difficulties. GL on requalifying. <3

Kyouren

5,583 posts

Joined October 2012

Topic Starter

Kyouren 2015-12-21T16:33:02+00:00

Fixed all, etc... "Normal claps in kiai are great for diversity but imo placed not rhythmically." because that is correct, don't see any wrong.
Thanks for mod, Sieg~ <3

Waiting Frey's diff~ :3

Frey

1,205 posts

Joined February 2011

Frey 2015-12-21T16:38:44+00:00

Sieg wrote:
[Frey's Insane]
00:08:125 (5,1) - This jump is absurd. Too large to reflect anything is the song, huge difficulty spike and placed just for the symmetry sake.
00:08:652 (3,4,5) - Awkward flow transfer here. You may "reset" flow by stacking 00:08:652 (3,4) - this will make tranfer to 00:09:002 (5) - much better.
Fixed all

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Kyouren

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Topic Starter

Kyouren 2015-12-21T16:50:57+00:00

Upgrade~ <3 :3

Kyouren

5,583 posts

Joined October 2012

Topic Starter

Kyouren 2016-01-02T10:48:34+00:00

Okay, i decied to remove Light Insane and Extra diff, so i really sorry about this bad news! (after discuss with Wafu)
I loser and ByBy13 winner!

Waiting HappyRocket88 and Bakari for this!

HappyRocket88

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Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2016-01-11T18:04:40+00:00

KittyAdventure wrote:
Waiting HappyRocket88 and Bakari for this!

[Luxo's Easy] Cute difficulty you've created here.

00:06:722 (4,1) The way these two objects play is a little bit confusing due the offbeat you created with the slider-tail of 00:06:722 (4) . Therefore, the rhythm suggests that the long slider starts here 00:07:073 to follow properly the wave sound of the instruments. It would look like this:
OD + 1 because the patterning of this easy aren't that "easy" for this difficulty.
00:18:301 (1,2,3) This pattern was really hard to click because of the wild 00:18:827 (2) which is making this rhythm a bit complicated for an easy. It would be better if you tried out to make something more smoother and catchy that don't need 1/2 circles. What about this?

[Normal] Mini recheck -w-

00:18:301 (1) Move the fifth node to 224|168 for making a smoother slider here. It should look like this

[Advanced] Yee. Quite polished diff.
Settings

OD -0.3 to keep consistency in the way you increase the Od among the diffs.

Composing

00:08:301 (3) NC here.
00:36:721 (2,3,4) Try this pattern to avoid create offbeat with the sliders-tails-heads.

[Auxent's Hard]

00:17:950 (5,6,1) Having such as double stacks over a hard diff plays considerably awkward. It would play way better if you usntacked to give a better flow to the players.

[Light Insane]
Settings

Increase the OD 0.5 to don't have the same OD of the Hard diff.

[Konei's Insane]

00:04:266 (1,2) The distance between these objects doesn't make sense according on how you managed the space among the notes. It would be better if you increased the spacing of those as well as you did 00:04:967 (3,4) or here 00:05:318 (4,1)
00:05:494 (1,2) Same with these. Why the distance is lowered so much here and then you place such as a big jump later? I do believe placing 00:06:020 (2) here 256|352 would make stuff easier to read and probably the flow would be improve it too.
00:08:388 (7) Overmapped There's not even a slight sound over the drums or the current wave sound to place this object there.
00:15:143 (1) Why NC here? It would make more sense if you kept the NC pattering you managed in the previous pattern.
00:22:511 (1,2) This pattern is mapped in a way that might confuse players due the awkward rhythm that those two slider are following. It would be better if you try this instead to make something more intuitively here.
00:29:879 (3,3) Not sure if the unstack is intentional. Otherwise try to stack them.
00:34:265 (3,4) Would you mind making a better blanket here? I do believe you can create a neater flow with these as well as you did in the upcoming patterns.

[Frey's Insane] Thanks for mapping this https://osu.ppy.sh/b/622287 <3 Nothing to compalin about the diff. Just some minor questions.

00:06:722 (4,1) The flow among this object is a bir foced. It would flow way better if you did Ctrl + G over (1) to improve it.
00:16:195 (1) Why NC here? this doesn't make sense according to the NC pattern you managed just before in the long patterns like 00:11:809 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9)
00:28:826 (4,1) Please, unstack them. They're making such as a stuck flow in comparison with the jumps you had just before. Likewise, you could make a star pattern here with these objects. 00:28:651 (3,4,1,2,3)

Kyouren

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Kyouren 2016-01-12T07:19:48+00:00

Fixed all etc in normal diff: lol that is unrankable because it's really far from distance snap!
Waiting GDers and upgrade now!

p.s: waiting ByBy13/Bakari!

Konei

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Konei 2016-01-12T07:55:32+00:00

HappyRocket88 wrote:
[Konei's Insane]
00:04:266 (1,2) The distance between these objects doesn't make sense according on how you managed the space among the notes. It would be better if you increased the spacing of those as well as you did 00:04:967 (3,4) or here 00:05:318 (4,1) Decreased the spacing on the next one.
00:05:494 (1,2) Same with these. Why the distance is lowered so much here and then you place such as a big jump later? I do believe placing 00:06:020 (2) here 256|352 would make stuff easier to read and probably the flow would be improve it too. Yup.
00:08:388 (7) Overmapped There's not even a slight sound over the drums or the current wave sound to place this object there.Try to listen at 25 %? I really do hear something here.
00:15:143 (1) Why NC here? It would make more sense if you kept the NC pattering you managed in the previous pattern. Wanting to emphasize the hold here.
00:22:511 (1,2) This pattern is mapped in a way that might confuse players due the awkward rhythm that those two slider are following. It would be better if you try this instead to make something more intuitively here.
but it's consistent with the first Slider so there should be no problem.
00:29:879 (3,3) Not sure if the unstack is intentional. Otherwise try to stack them. yup intentional
00:34:265 (3,4) Would you mind making a better blanket here? I do believe you can create a neater flow with these as well as you did in the upcoming patterns. Sure.

Thanks!

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Frey

1,205 posts

Joined February 2011

Frey 2016-01-12T09:12:04+00:00

HappyRocket88 wrote:
[Frey's Insane] Thanks for mapping this https://osu.ppy.sh/b/622287 <3 :3 yeahNothing to compalin about the diff. Just some minor questions.
00:06:722 (4,1) The flow among this object is a bir foced. It would flow way better if you did Ctrl + G over (1) to improve it. fixed
00:16:195 (1) Why NC here? this doesn't make sense according to the NC pattern you managed just before in the long patterns like 00:11:809 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) to stress the symmetry and the lyrics.
00:28:826 (4,1) Please, unstack them. They're making such as a stuck flow in comparison with the jumps you had just before. Likewise, you could make a star pattern here with these objects. 00:28:651 (3,4,1,2,3) I disagree, no need to unstack them. 00:28:651 (3,4) - have no clear sound, I think it's a good place to stack for a pause.

Thanks for modding!

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luxoDeh

1,497 posts

Joined February 2012

luxoDeh 2016-01-12T12:46:16+00:00

HappyRocket88 wrote:
KittyAdventure wrote:
Waiting HappyRocket88 and Bakari for this!
[Luxo's Easy] Cute difficulty you've created here.
00:06:722 (4,1) The way these two objects play is a little bit confusing due the offbeat you created with the slider-tail of 00:06:722 (4) . Therefore, the rhythm suggests that the long slider starts here 00:07:073 to follow properly the wave sound of the instruments. It would look like this: ok, fixed
OD + 1 because the patterning of this easy aren't that "easy" for this difficulty. ok
00:18:301 (1,2,3) This pattern was really hard to click because of the wild 00:18:827 (2) which is making this rhythm a bit complicated for an easy. It would be better if you tried out to make something more smoother and catchy that don't need 1/2 circles. What about this? ok, but did a different thing

Thank you

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Tags:Club Of By For The Baka Natsunosuke Yamato Ryoka Amada Sho Uraki Mizuki Yui Skyjunction KENN UTAU ポン吉 はち ねこすけ、ハウる visual novel furry yaoi Bakabu Takiken Auxent Konei gokugohan12468 Frey Left 4 Death luxoDeh まずらぼ[muzzle-lab] Mazurabo Opening Version Op Ver
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Auxent

Auxent 2016-01-12T14:41:19+00:00

No fixes by my side, sorry. I think that the stacks are ok. Thanks for mod anyways.

Voli

811 posts

Joined April 2013

Voli 2016-01-12T19:41:36+00:00

Hello KittyAdventure!

I've found some things in your last difficulty that I'd like to point out before this gets pushed forward:

Gomenasai, Aishiteru

00:12:511 (2) - i dont really like this stack, theres vocals there so I don't really see why the momentum stops here suddenly, you mapped the vocals more spaced later too

00:14:090 (1,2,3) - following the vocals with an extended slider would be better, as well as here 00:16:195 (3) - you do it here too 00:18:301 (1,3) - and it plays much better

00:31:984 (4,1) - wrong beat pairing:
4 to 1 should be a jump rather than a stack, because 00:31:633 (3,4) - this jump doesnt make sense

00:33:388 (5,1) - why no bigger spacing on the nc jump?

00:34:791 (1,2,1,2,3) - these should be bigger jumps imo because of emphasis but well thats my opinion, i think it would be way better, same as 00:37:423 (1,2,3,4,5) -

That's pretty much what I have to say about this difficulty, good luck with the ranking process!

HappyRocket88

4,321 posts

Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2016-01-12T20:22:00+00:00

Recheck no kudosu

[General]
You should find a higher dimensions for the video, Kitty. The current one presents ugly spacing in eh laterals over 1024x768 and 1336x768 resolutions which might decrease the playability due black lines of both sides. Here's the prove:

[Auxent's Hard]

Auxent wrote:
I think that the stacks are ok.

00:17:950 (5,6,1) Sorry if I'm being rude but saying "they're ok" isn't really an argument when they truly make an awkward and stuck flow when the previous patterns are rather fluent and catchy. Would you mind explaining in more details your concern?
[Konei's Insane]
00:08:388 (7) By far listening to 25% there's slight sound there, but you shouldn't listen to 25% to hear inaudible beats playing it on 100%. Just a reference, I do believe that circle is still overmapped and it's not as strong as the upcoming triplets like these ones 00:09:792 (5) - 00:12:248 (5) - 00:16:108 (4) - etc
[]
Call me after everything is well addressed

Kyouren

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Joined October 2012

Topic Starter

Kyouren 2016-01-13T10:44:57+00:00

Voli wrote:
Hello KittyAdventure!

I've found some things in your last difficulty that I'd like to point out before this gets pushed forward:

Gomenasai, Aishiteru
00:12:511 (2) - i dont really like this stack, theres vocals there so I don't really see why the momentum stops here suddenly, you mapped the vocals more spaced later too

00:14:090 (1,2,3) - following the vocals with an extended slider would be better, as well as here 00:16:195 (3) - you do it here too 00:18:301 (1,3) - and it plays much better. Not about vocal, i taken from background music too, so sorry, no change!

00:31:984 (4,1) - wrong beat pairing:
4 to 1 should be a jump rather than a stack, because 00:31:633 (3,4) - this jump doesnt make sense

00:33:388 (5,1) - why no bigger spacing on the nc jump? . -Nya- said better that!

00:34:791 (1,2,1,2,3) - these should be bigger jumps imo because of emphasis but well thats my opinion, i think it would be way better, same as 00:37:423 (1,2,3,4,5) - I just tired used many jumping! ;w;

That's pretty much what I have to say about this difficulty, good luck with the ranking process!

Thanks for mod, Voli~ <3
Waiting Auxent and Konei! :3

Upgrade~ :>

Auxent

Auxent 2016-01-13T17:03:14+00:00

HappyRocket88 wrote:
[Auxent's Hard]
Auxent wrote:
I think that the stacks are ok.
00:17:950 (5,6,1) Sorry if I'm being rude but saying "they're ok" isn't really an argument when they truly make an awkward and stuck flow when the previous patterns are rather fluent and catchy. Would you mind explaining in more details your concern?

Alright, I was quite in a rush because I had to prepare myself for an exam and as I know Kitty, he wanted for me to check it ASAP. So I didn't have a better argument for that, sorry. I don't feel that these notes are awkward, it basically follows the music and i already used the pattern at 00:16:897 (1,2) - , so I'd love to keep the consistency. It's basically mapped on a vocal and I don't hear any special rhythm for mapping this (like guitar or anything). Also if I had to unstack it, I'd have to remap most of the parts because I'm keeping the distance snap (obviously) and me (and probably also you) won't see the sliders overlapping each other. If you think that this issue is really major and would somehow affect the mapset before qualification, then I'll fix it. Hope you understand.

Mekki

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Joined November 2014

Mekki 2016-01-13T17:06:44+00:00

Imo stacks are fine, they fit the mapper style and, especially, the song.

Konei

2,959 posts

Joined March 2012

Konei 2016-01-14T17:59:36+00:00

Alright removed the triplet, I also changed AR back to 9, I don't know why it was 8.

osu file format v14

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[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1
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GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 2.5

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Title:Just a fool loves you
TitleUnicode:Just a fool loves you
Artist:C.I.L. Cafe
ArtistUnicode:C.I.L. Café
Creator:KittyAdventure
Version:Konei's Insane
Source:バカ部
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Kyouren

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Kyouren 2016-01-14T19:09:23+00:00

Upgrade and waiting Shad0w1and's respond!

Shad0w1and

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Joined April 2011

Shad0w1and 2016-01-15T02:16:50+00:00

http://puu.sh/mw70T/360c9300af.flv
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Kyouren

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Kyouren 2016-01-15T04:52:25+00:00

Thank you, Shad0w1and~ <3
Upgrade~ :3

HappyRocket88

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Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2016-01-15T18:17:28+00:00

Re-Re-Recheck

[Luxo's Easy]
00:18:301 (1,2) Ctrl + G these for a better rhythm. It's quite untidy the way the slider (2) skips this important beat 00:19:704 because of the arrhythmical reverse.
[Normal]
HP - 1
[Advanced]
HP -0.5
[Gomenasai, Aishiteru]
00:13:739 (6,7) Reduce the distance between these two objects. There's no need to break the DS here.
00:31:984 (4) This should be over 492|236 to manage the same DS you used in the previous jumps.
00:17:950 (3,4,5,1) This is mapped in a way that might cofue players due the stacks. It would be better if you unstack 00:17:950 (3) to improve the readability.
[]
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Kyouren

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Joined October 2012

Topic Starter

Kyouren 2016-01-16T03:23:34+00:00

Fixel all etc. 00:13:739 (6,7) Reduce the distance between these two objects. There's no need to break the DS here.
Reason: because just following flow and better that!

Upgrade~ :3

HappyRocket88

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Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2016-01-16T03:42:09+00:00

Easy
00:20:406 (3) - Try to use a smoother slider shape like this