estellia- wrote:

I would dump stars if I had any

I don't even know how they work

estellia- wrote:

I have supporter but there isn't a button like that

Its been like that since I got supporter iuno what's wrong :/

Ayako wrote:

estellia- wrote:

I have supporter but there isn't a button like that

Its been like that since I got supporter iuno what's wrong :/

ah i think renew supporter will get, cos i just renew got resupply. Eh walao whr u spend ur stars sia haha

Kagari wrote:

just a very damn silly question from me, have you guys tried to strike a singlish conversation in #english? if singlish is a English dialect, it shouldn't be a problem for us to communicate in #english since it was mainly in english xd

estellia- wrote:

Osu is what brought us together, so shouldn't it only be logical that most people will be tuned into our channel the most because its moat accessible

estellia- wrote:

I think we explained it before. Not only is it rather rude and invasive, neither can we handle too much English, nor can they handle our colloquial slurs. Singlish and English very technically use a difference sense of grammar and vocabulary. While you call it an English derivative, I could also say that part of English is German derivative, so why not use #German? xd You say it "shouldn't be a problem", but it evidently is. Why else would we push so hard for a channel to ourselves?

Kagari wrote:

just a very damn silly question from me, have you guys tried to strike a singlish conversation in #english? if singlish is a English dialect, it shouldn't be a problem for us to communicate in #english since it was mainly in english xd

-LeeP- wrote:

"Abang you wan lepak lim kopi?"
(Brother, do you want to drink coffee and chill AT ONE CORNER LIKE TRUE YALAM BROOOOOO?)

Endaris wrote:

I'm not entirely sure about it but it would probably support this request if you provided a singlish-translation for the osu! Community Localisation Project found here:
t/104342

Bakano wrote:

walao, someone pls tell me leh...

what is stopping us from actually getting a #singlish channel sia

like that no channel for me to talk cock sing song and lepak... =(

No, but seriously, what's the issue here? I don't really understand... lol

Endaris wrote:

I'm not entirely sure about it but it would probably support this request if you provided a singlish-translation for the osu! Community Localisation Project found here:
t/104342

Technically speaking, you can't translate Singlish into English. The main difference between Singlish and English is the fact that they have completely different grammar rules -- but the spelling of English words still the same, AND the fact that we incorporate different languages(which also means, translations for these languages are pretty much already existent) in most of our sentences. So yeah, you can't actually "translate" Singlish into English xd

Thanks for the suggestion though!

Karuta- wrote:

Abang you want lepak lim kopi
(Malay, English, Malay, Hokkien, Malay)

Eh bro why we still fighting this cmfrm si liao le its v sian looking at this debate
(broken english, "lazy english", Chinese, broken English+Chinese, English)

eeyer ang mohs dont get it they all damn du lan
(exclamation, ang moh = European, Americans (Hokkien), English, Hokkien)

they are just fragments of different languages with a lot of languages to mix and match not to mention the variety of grammars, your understanding depends on how much you understand the fragments and together as a whole so I don't know how you can make a singlish translation

lazy english (words that omit the a,e,i,o,u but usually most people would be able to get them)

tokaku wrote:

I have no hope in this ever becoming true because everyone but Singaporean doesn't want this.

LoliFlan wrote:

First off theres #irish and #latvian

flyte wrote:

I understand the point that everyone was trying to point out here. I also noticed that Singapore is the only country in South East Asia without it's own Language forum/channel.

But yeah, it's "Language" channel, not Country of Community channel. It just so happens that the other countries in SEA has their own native language with huge amount of population that doesn't understand English. I believe that's the idea why Language forums are there in the first place. Malaysia, Indonesia, Thai and Tagalog is not there because of the country, but because of their homeland language.

Also, Singlish is a 'slang' no matter how widely used it is. I believe everyone who speaks Singlish understands proper English. Yes, you use it everyday, but it's not being thought at your school, nor being used as medium for your television news broadcast.

It wouldn't be fair to only allow one slang to have their own forum. There are many slangs in the world and most of the slang speakers understands root language. Adding Singlish would mean that others would have the same amount of rights to have their own channel if they have a sizable community.

CombustionZ wrote:

If the moderators are gonna ban us for talking our language that we use, and not provide us an appropriate place to talk freely. It is unfair

estellia- wrote:

1. Singlish isnt a language/dialect

Yes, but as explained by Ayako, we can't deal with massive English or Chinese or Malay or any other languages' text walls. What we are comfortable with is Singlish. As stated before, Singlish is a creole, it isn't a language or a dialect or a slang, its still very technically a language. Directly quoting from Wikipedia:

A creole language, or simply creole, is a stable natural language that has developed from a pidgin (i.e. a simplified language or simplified mixture of languages used by non-native speakers) becoming nativized by children as their first language, with the accompanying effect of a fully developed vocabulary and system of grammar.

tbh iirc our government has promoted its use because its ingrained in our culture no joke xd and yes, if you're Singaporean you'd know that media widely uses Singlish all the time, be it in drama serials or commercials. Teachers in school also occasionally blurt the "lah, loh, leh", because thats who we are, and we can't erase that.

I do believe there IS an unofficial Singlish translator out there, doesn't stop us though.

2. Go #Malaysian

On the other hand, while you can say we could go to #Malaysian, but they we can't be so selfish as to go in there to 'take over' because that space is still ultimately theirs, besides we tried that, and it didnt exactly work out. #Malaysian isnt somewhere Singaporeans BELONG, #Singlish is the place to be. tbh it doesnt matter what the name of our channel is, being in this amazing, dank community is what is enjoyable.

and yes, Malaysian isnt the language of Singapore, nor is it even a language at all in the first place xd

3. Language use

Singlish is literally part and parcel of our lives. No singlish, no Singapore. Singlish is the literal sole representation of Singapore aside from the amazing chicken rice and chilli crab xd

4. Why not have other languages similar to Singlish added in?

I dont see how this can be a problem. As long as the community feels that theres a need for this to happen, they are entitled to push for it to happen. If the community is big, you can ensure that the channel with be buzzing with people all the time! But if they couldnt really care less, then it doesnt matter if they have their own channel or not. We care, enough that we're pushing for this to happen.

5. Have a chat system somewhere else

Dude we literally have Skype, Whatsapp, Telegram, Facebook, Discord, etc. god knows how many are there out there. There has to be a reason why we're pushing for this to happen -- it simply isnt gonna happen elsewhere outside of osu! Osu is what brought us together, so shouldn't it only be logical that most people will be tuned into our channel the most because its most accessible?

I believe I've explained enough. These are the reasons/rebuttals I have. I also genuinely think Singapore should have its own channel for its own iconic creole.

Boiiz we got this lets make it happen

PyaKura wrote:

tokaku wrote:

I have no hope in this ever becoming true because everyone but Singaporean doesn't want this.

I'm asking that very seriously : is this a thing for you guys to give up onto something after such a short period of time?

As an outsider I totally wouldn't mind the existence of this channel and actually I'd be pretty curious to see what your discussions would look like haha

Karuta- wrote:

And also don't forget Tokiiwa who is not a Singaporean puts the most stars, so don't go claiming shit when you don't have anything to back it up

tokaku wrote:

Singapore isn't very proud of this 'language'

-LeeP- wrote:

tokaku wrote:

Singapore isn't very proud of this 'language'

I love Singlish. It's the language that defines who we are.

Karuta- wrote:

And also don't forget Tokiiwa who is not a Singaporean puts the most stars, so don't go claiming shit when you don't have anything to back it up

Ayako wrote:

Malaysia- native language Malay
Indonesia- native language Malay (indonesian)
India- native language tamil, hindu
Thailand- native language Thai

i think our title is abit misleading, we meant #singaporean

anyways, why our community want a channel so badly can be presented out in these scenarios


1) >le sg person goes into english chat
>gets bombarded with english text (obvious)
> doesnt fit in well

2) >le sg person goes into chinese chat
>bombarded with chinese text
>too complicated, cant blend in

3) >le sg person goes into malaysian chat
>bombarded with malay text
>doesnt understand
>leaves

4)> le sad sg person enters indian chat
>the rest is predictable as u can see


countries that have a strong native language presence dont have an issue going into the language channels as they know whats happening, they have people in there. Lets take Chinese, China obviously dominates the chat, you cant expect singaporeans to just hope into it and start chatting. do you have any idea how troublesome it is to change text language omg we will get flooded in chinese that we dont understand

same to the rest of the languages.


Even if we do so, we are being split up as a community. Thats not what a channel is for.

A channel in game is used to bond and connect players with a common identity, in this case, a language. Australians, Americans, British players dominate the English channels, they are bonded as they actually can communicate with each other, same for the rest. As for us, we are unable to do so, we do not have the ability to communicate with them. We are not making this forum post just to get a random fancy channel in game for fun, we need a platform in game to establish communications between fellow players that can actually understand us. We do not want a channel, we need a channel. Its very annoying to have to result to other platforms to communicate as we cant reach out to everyone. Its annoying, very annoying

we dont want to chill, we want to bond and communicate, we can always chill alone :c

KyousukeRentaro wrote:

It simply means the not just the Singaporean Community wanted a #Singlish/#Singaporean , but with people who speak Singlish wants #Singlish channel to be added .

Wikiped wrote:

While English is one of Singapore's official languages, Singlish (a particular dialect** with its unique intonations and grammar) is commonly regarded as having low prestige.

Wikiped wrote:

The vocabulary of Singlish.....from English, Malay, Hokkien, Teochew, Cantonese, Tamil and to a lesser extent various other European, Indic and Sinitic languages....elements of American and Australian slang have come through....

PyaKura wrote:

tokaku wrote:

I have no hope in this ever becoming true because everyone but Singaporean doesn't want this.

I'm asking that very seriously : is this a thing for you guys to give up onto something after such a short period of time?

As an outsider I totally wouldn't mind the existence of this channel and actually I'd be pretty curious to see what your discussions would look like haha

Bu77shi wrote:

Also Abraxos research skill too OP nice post fam.

Histoire wrote:

Bu77shi wrote:

Also Abraxos research skill too OP nice post fam.

he basically repeated what estellia- said xd