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Ascendance
man this map is shit
Catgirl

Ascendance wrote:

man this map is shit
hi ascendance i'm in your hate club

also hot damn
this map
Shinsekai-
when?
Topic Starter
Chromoxx

Aldwych wrote:

Ok so

[Oni]

00:20:810 : I would add a d here, i'm ok for breaks, but this isn't really a legit place for a break, maybe because of the vocals tbh. the break is okay tbh, keeping too long consistent rythms becomes boring
00:23:810 : You can also add a d (for the beats) or k (for the "hey") it's up to you. We're in Oni, so having 1/1 break is enough good.
00:29:348 : ^ i feel like the breaks here make for better buildup throughout the song
00:31:195 : Would add a d here too. Maybe because i would like you to keep a 1/1 break but aaaaaa it's up to you here. emphasis on the vocal
00:32:118 : Since he said twice i'm a sh*t, i would go for a smilliar pattern, d ddkkd x2 is fine imo. heavier drum beat at the end of the second pattern, that's why it's longer
01:05:694 : Adding a d would make this are less boring imo. :< don't really see it fitting in there anywhere and one triplet won't do much good anyways imo
01:37:195 : This is the only slider and i felt that you should go for another spinner, this kind of vocal you went for a spinner earlier. spinnere'd
01:39:386 : Same as muzukashii. isn't weird tho

Playtest was fine.

[Swagg Oni]

Sawg takes two g? Oo
Better rename into Swagger Oni so :>

00:28:887 : Why a slider here? Oo fixed
00:31:887 + : Same remarks as Oni. current pattern gives more emphasis to the strong drum beat at the end of kkkkd
00:36:733 : Unconsistency with Oni. Finisher missing (i guess). removed finisher in oni
01:04:887 : Same as Oni, well in the end it seems that this part is quite the same as 01:27:041, so you can do something like that too hue. mapping the vocals only there for higher emphasis on the single hits
01:37:195 : Keepo. fixed
01:37:387 : Keepo²

Nothing much to say.

This is definitively a hard music to map ;w;

Merry xMas and gl hf for rank. :>
nearly 1 year late but thx
Topic Starter
Chromoxx

agu wrote:

Oni:
00:51:502 - I feel this is better as a k, fits vocals more imho yeah, changed
01:19:079 - this is a bit awkward, remove imo moved it 1/1 backward to make a ddd before the last k
01:39:502 - I'd still do k k D instead of dd D but it's more fine in oni than muzu dd D fits better imo

Swagg Oni:
00:05:810 - I think this part sounds better as d d k d k k d, and also seems more consistent current pattern emphasizes strong sounds in the music more imo
01:00:502 - k? no
01:39:502 - same as oni and muzu keeping here too

kind of short mod, the map has potentional but has some smaller issues that I think this mod will help you fix
kantan-muzu went through major changes so applying those doesn't make much sense here

tfw applying mods from 1 year ago... #nostalgic
iloveyou4ever
swaGG Oni
Aldwych
OBOI
tasuke912
Hi
[ General]
  1. Difficulty spread issue: Between M and O seems huge relatively. Muzukashii can be harder (or Oni easier).
  2. Where is instrumental version
  3. OD should be higher in higher difficulties. (eg: 3-4-5-5-6)
  4. Adjust hitsound volume
[ Kantan]
  1. 00:53:348 (55) - How about moving this note to 2/1 tick right?
  2. 01:37:195 (105) - I think slider doesn't fit to the song well, since vocal is ... It's hard to get 1/4 rhythm anyway
  3. 00:33:502 (31) - Add finisher as well as F, M?

  4. 00:37:195 (36) - Finish would be good for emphasis (All difficulties)
[ Futsuu]
  1. 00:36:733 - k?
  2. 00:39:733 - Try moving this note to 00:38:810 - for making consistent rhythm with next patterns?
  3. 01:17:810 - Finish? You used it at Kantan

  4. 01:17:810 (43) - Add finish to emphasize the sound? (All diffs)
[ Muzukashii]
  1. As I said in general, M-O seems huge. Try to make more triplets!
[ Oni]
  1. 00:03:502 (20) - I prefer k here :p
  2. 00:17:810 (76,77,78) - ^
  3. 00:17:464 (74) - Remove it for consistency.
  4. 00:38:348 (44) - I'd recommend to remove it, this pattern seems too long for the calm part.
  5. 00:42:041 (63) - ^
  6. 01:20:118 (49,50,51,52) - Simple rhythm would be better

  7. 01:30:733 - This part is very similar as Swagg Oni. You should try to make more difference
[ Swagg Oni]
  1. 00:26:118 (1) - has longer length than other difficulties, it is intentional?
Bad song :v))
Call me back when you are done
Topic Starter
Chromoxx

tasuke912 wrote:

Hi
[ General]
  1. Difficulty spread issue: Between M and O seems huge relatively. Muzukashii can be harder (or Oni easier). buffing muzu
  2. Where is instrumental version
  3. OD should be higher in higher difficulties. (eg: 3-4-5-5-6) fixed
  4. Adjust hitsound volume i don't really feel like there is a need for volume changes in this song, so i'd rather leave the hitsound volume at 100% so that people can choose the volume they like for themselves
[ Kantan]
  1. 00:53:348 (55) - How about moving this note to 2/1 tick right? oo nice
  2. 01:37:195 (105) - I think slider doesn't fit to the song well, since vocal is ... It's hard to get 1/4 rhythm anyway i feel like this is a good way to emphasize the long vocal and i prefer the slider to a spinner here, since it emphasizes the full length more
  3. 00:33:502 (31) - Add finisher as well as F, M? add

  4. 00:37:195 (36) - Finish would be good for emphasis (All difficulties) no really strong sound here so i'll leave it
[ Futsuu]
  1. 00:36:733 - k? i prefer leaving a break here to emphasize the background music kicking in again on the next hit, also i feel like the "heh" is emphasized more by not mapping it here and letting the players hear the sound instead of having just one more 1/1 note
  2. 00:39:733 - Try moving this note to 00:38:810 - for making consistent rhythm with next patterns? ok
  3. 01:17:810 - Finish? You used it at Kantan added

  4. 01:17:810 (43) - Add finish to emphasize the sound? (All diffs) added
[ Muzukashii]
  1. As I said in general, M-O seems huge. Try to make more triplets! added some 1/3 and also buffing some pattern lengths in general, 1/3 should make it technical enough to spread with the Oni and i don't want to overmap too much 1/4 here
[ Oni]
  1. 00:03:502 (20) - I prefer k here :p yeah k is good
  2. 00:17:810 (76,77,78) - ^ changed
  3. 00:17:464 (74) - Remove it for consistency. ye, changed the thing before to d k d too
  4. 00:38:348 (44) - I'd recommend to remove it, this pattern seems too long for the calm part.
  5. 00:42:041 (63) - ^ removed both
  6. 01:20:118 (49,50,51,52) - Simple rhythm would be better made some 1/4 instead to make it more expectable, keeping the weirder 1/3 for swagg oni

  7. 01:30:733 - This part is very similar as Swagg Oni. You should try to make more difference it fits to the music, it isn't identical and fits well in the context to the map so i think it's okay tbh
[ Swagg Oni]
  1. 00:26:118 (1) - has longer length than other difficulties, it is intentional? shortened (:
Bad song :v)) #quality
Call me back when you are done
thx man! :D
tasuke912
The song is weird, but beatmap is well-made actually.

Bubbled!
IControl
I think the bg could be improved if you added sun glasses
Hypello
Swagg Oni
00:27:964 (1,2,3,4,5) - change to k k k d d
00:30:272 (10,11,12) - change to kkk
00:32:579 (23,24,25) - change to kkd
00:36:733 (47) - finisher? xD
01:06:272 (5) - change to k
01:08:579 (1,2,3,4,5) - change to K K K K K?
01:13:195 (18) - kkd 1/4
01:27:041 (1) - remove or k
lol funny map
Volta
hi, here's m4m as requested

[Kantan]
00:18:733 - i think finisher here is good to give emphasis, like the higher diffs
>00:17:810 - and remove this finisher

[Futsuu]
00:59:348 (65,66,67,68) - how about change to D-kdk, good to emphasis the first note
> 01:01:195 (69,70,71,72) - and change to kdd-k, if want some variation

[Muzukashii]
00:59:348 (88,89,90,91,92) - how about change to D-d-k-d-k, good to emphasis the first note

[Oni]
00:03:964 - consider to add finish like lower diffs? consistent with 00:18:733 - too
> 00:18:502 - hmm why no k here?
> 00:50:810 - add k?
> 01:18:041 - and maybe delete this if you feel the sequence will be too long

00:58:425 - remove finish? sounds not strong enough to emphasis. no finish in lower diffs
> 00:59:348 - and put finisher here instead?
> 01:09:502 - i'd suggest to remove finish here too

00:50:810 (100) - change to d can emphasis the next gohan imo

[Swagg Oni]
00:03:964 - consider to add finish like lower diffs? consistent with 00:18:733 - too

00:58:425 - remove finish? seems wrong place to emphasis. no finish in lower diffs
> 00:59:348 - and put finisher here instead?
> 01:09:502 - i'd suggest to remove finish here too

00:50:579 (119,120) - try to swap? it would suits the vocal better

tasuke912 wrote:

The song is weird
Topic Starter
Chromoxx

aEoNNzR- wrote:

Swagg Oni
00:27:964 (1,2,3,4,5) - change to k k k d d current pattern fits better imo
00:30:272 (10,11,12) - change to kkk no
00:32:579 (23,24,25) - change to kkd no
00:36:733 (47) - finisher? xD the notes isolation emphasizes it enough imo
01:06:272 (5) - change to k no
01:08:579 (1,2,3,4,5) - change to K K K K K? no, sounds weird
01:13:195 (18) - kkd 1/4 sounds weird
01:27:041 (1) - remove or k d suits better imo
lol funny map
thx for modding, i couldn't really understand your reasoning behind your suggestions since you didn't explain them really
Topic Starter
Chromoxx

Volta wrote:

hi, here's m4m as requested

[Kantan]
00:18:733 - i think finisher here is good to give emphasis, like the higher diffs added
>00:17:810 - and remove this finisher removed

[Futsuu]
00:59:348 (65,66,67,68) - how about change to D-kdk, good to emphasis the first note did D kkd
> 01:01:195 (69,70,71,72) - and change to kdd-k, if want some variation changed

[Muzukashii]
00:59:348 (88,89,90,91,92) - how about change to D-d-k-d-k, good to emphasis the first note changed

[Oni]
00:03:964 - consider to add finish like lower diffs? consistent with 00:18:733 - too added
> 00:18:502 - hmm why no k here? i felt it emphasized the next D better but since it's clearly audible in the music i added it
> 00:50:810 - add k? added k on 01:17:579 - since this is what you meant
> 01:18:041 - and maybe delete this if you feel the sequence will be too long deleted

00:58:425 - remove finish? sounds not strong enough to emphasis. no finish in lower diffs removed
> 00:59:348 - and put finisher here instead? added
> 01:09:502 - i'd suggest to remove finish here too strong sound there so i'm leaving that one

00:50:810 (100) - change to d can emphasis the next gohan imo i feel like the triple k adds more emphasis somehow

[Swagg Oni]
00:03:964 - consider to add finish like lower diffs? consistent with 00:18:733 - too added

00:58:425 - remove finish? seems wrong place to emphasis. no finish in lower diffs removed
> 00:59:348 - and put finisher here instead? added
> 01:09:502 - i'd suggest to remove finish here too strong sound so leaving this one

00:50:579 (119,120) - try to swap? it would suits the vocal better changed

tasuke912 wrote:

The song is weird
very nice mod, thank you! :D
Volta
alright, map have better emphasis now.

QUALIFIED!
Raiden
I dream that one day, the memes shall be kept where they belong, and not in the official content of an actual serious rhythm game.

Midnaait

Raiden wrote:

I dream that one day, the memes shall be kept where they belong, and not in the official content of an actual serious rhythm game.

Serious rhythm game
lul
Alex3i2
I hate this song
zeeeq_old

Midnaait wrote:

Raiden wrote:

I dream that one day, the memes shall be kept where they belong, and not in the official content of an actual serious rhythm game.

Serious rhythm game
lul
Serious rhythmeme game
lul
Surono

Raiden wrote:

I dream that one day, the memes shall be kept where they belong, and not in the official content of an actual serious rhythm game.

😂🔫
Stefan

Raiden wrote:

I dream that one day, the memes shall be kept where they belong, and not in the official content of an actual serious rhythm game.

Oh? So people should only map +250 BPM crap and electro trash? I am not feeling this way.

I haven't checked the map itself so I can't judge the quality but if the quality exist, then I feel sorry for everyone not being so open to accept other genres than:
-) any songs of any rhythm games - which sounds 70% of the time the same
-) anime
-) the same rock bands over and over again, speaking of stuff such as DystopiaGround or Dragonforce

You should know by yourself to avoid these maps if they do not hit your taste.
roufou
I can see why people get annoyed by 30~ second songs being ranked "frequently", and I can see people getting annoyed by "meme" songs getting voted as top 5 best maps of the year, but I don't really see a problem with this song being ranked. Maybe this song would be weird in a game which isn't run by the community and has officially charted songs by a team, but osu! is run by the community and there's other options everywhere and you can install whatever map you want.

I'll also mention that Jubeat added PPAP as a song, just as a fun thing to add to the side of this.

Just my opinion on this as a genuinely think this is an amusing map.
Pachiru
Most of maps are always the same nowadays, so if those people are doing some meme song that go out from usual stuff, then let them do it, everyone is mapping anime stuff as Stefan said, even if I don't like it, I would never say that is "full of shit" as you said, Raiden.

Respect other tastes.
Raiden

Stefan wrote:

Raiden wrote:

I dream that one day, the memes shall be kept where they belong, and not in the official content of an actual serious rhythm game.

Oh? So people should only map +250 BPM crap and electro trash? I am not feeling this way.

I haven't checked the map itself so I can't judge the quality but if the quality exist, then I feel sorry for everyone not being so open to accept other genres than:
-) any songs of any rhythm games - which sounds 70% of the time the same
-) anime
-) the same rock bands over and over again, speaking of stuff such as DystopiaGround or Dragonforce

You should know by yourself to avoid these maps if they do not hit your taste.
I do the last thing you mentioned, as in, avoid the maps if they don't fit* my taste on a daily basis. But it seems that's pretty useful to ignore, right? Otherwise you would not be able to post this short pseudo-lecture.

I'd rather have anime generic songs than this... thing that some dare call a song, with little to no harmony put in its composition, and with the only purpose of being funny in a rather stupid way. I'm all in for memes, I have said it several times. The only problem is when they are brought in places they do not belong at all, such as the ranked section which consists of OFFICIAL osu! content.

Is that what you'd want to see on a serious company or a mildly serious project? I doubt that project has much success.

Not only has this immediate repercussion on the mild outrage that it has caused (somewhat massive downvote wave), but also in a bigger picture scene. Taiko is nothing more than a joke/non-existant mode to a vast majority of osu! playerbase already. Do you really think having these... things in our ranked section is going to make us any good? Not if you ask me. And I'm pretty sure you hinted at me with the "the same rock bands over and over again". I'll just invite you to take a look at my graveyard and/or unsubmitted maps. You'll probably notice Dragonforce takes less than 5% of my rock/metal songs.

As for rhythm game songs and anime, I do agree with you and share that point of view, regardless of the fact that those are at least harmless for our image.

Just as in real life, keep the leisure time apart from the work. It's called priorities.

Merry christmas to all of you.

edit: @Pachiru, that was a meme from SpongeBob Squarepants & Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance. Didn't say they were full of shit. Don't assume things if you do not understand the context.
Arphimigon
osu! shouldn't be treated as a serious rhythm game, but as a community game made for the fun of the community itself, so let them make stuff that can please each other. This can please parts of the community that don't get pleased often, and I see that as a pure positive.
Topic Starter
Chromoxx
This is getting a bit too dramatic lol
_Illustrious_
Is a shit map
Surono

SUPERGLB05 wrote:

Is a shit map
not to map please, but song (?).
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