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tasuke912
Hi.
[ General]
  1. 02:38:569 - 02:58:576 -, Hide unnecessary barlines. This part doesn't have any notes, so not affect for playing. However looks really not beautiful, bar lines should be on each first beat.
  2. 03:23:069 - Hide barline?

  3. 04:57:686 - Add redline here. Because 04:56:006 - This measure is 7/4.
  4. 06:22:237 - Hitsound isn't too small?
  5. 06:22:237 - 280bpm. drums sounds like 1/3.
  6. 06:39:379 - Barline should be here.
  7. 07:08:521 - Add redline here what checked "omit first bar line" for hiding unnecessary barline.
[ Terror Oni]
  1. 01:36:444 (98) - Normal notes works good enough imo. no strong sound here
  2. 03:01:881 (17) - remove finisher? ^
  3. 03:10:694 (100,101,102,103) - why not finisher? i think it works better than 1/6. similar way as 03:19:319 (166) -

  4. 03:05:444 (49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62) - I felt position of 1/1 is weird. no reason that not follow drums rhythm. (add note at 03:06:662 - and delete 03:06:287 (58,60) - 03:05:537 (50,52) - )
  5. 03:42:190 (39,40,41,42,43) - lol. isn't it delay? could be on 1/12 tick right.
  6. 05:07:166 (106,107,108,109,110,111) - Remove 1/6s and add kat 05:07:466 ? it fits to drums well imo
  7. 05:15:446 How about adding spinner here?

  8. 08:14:022 - 08:18:147 - Isn't This part too monotone? Other colors also fits to sound well..
call me back (¦3[▓▓]
Topic Starter
Raiden

tasuke912 wrote:

Hi.
[ General]
  1. 02:38:569 - 02:58:576 -, Hide unnecessary barlines. This part doesn't have any notes, so not affect for playing. However looks really not beautiful, bar lines should be on each first beat.
  2. 03:23:069 - Hide barline?

  3. 04:57:686 - Add redline here. Because 04:56:006 - This measure is 7/4.
  4. 06:22:237 - Hitsound isn't too small?
  5. 06:22:237 - 280bpm. drums sounds like 1/3. hmmm I think it really is 140 with the 1/8 at the ending :(
  6. 06:39:379 - Barline should be here.
  7. 07:08:521 - Add redline here what checked "omit first bar line" for hiding unnecessary barline.

    Fixed most of ^ except comment
[ Terror Oni]
  1. 01:36:444 (98) - Normal notes works good enough imo. no strong sound here But there is a strong cymbal crash on the background ><
  2. 03:01:881 (17) - remove finisher? ^ The finisher is more to represent the high tone instrument that plays there (idk how it's called probably the bass)
  3. 03:10:694 (100,101,102,103) - why not finisher? i think it works better than 1/6. similar way as 03:19:319 (166) - Oh yes

  4. 03:05:444 (49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62) - I felt position of 1/1 is weird. no reason that not follow drums rhythm. (add note at 03:06:662 - and delete 03:06:287 (58,60) - 03:05:537 (50,52) - ) Oh done!
  5. 03:42:190 (39,40,41,42,43) - lol. isn't it delay? could be on 1/12 tick right. Fixed
  6. 05:07:166 (106,107,108,109,110,111) - Remove 1/6s and add kat 05:07:466 ? it fits to drums well imo I think the short 1/6 works pretty well at ending the stanza because it gives a blasting feeling before the SV down ><
  7. 05:15:446 How about adding spinner here? There isn't much time I think, and the music doesn't go crazy to ensure a keyboard mashing element ><

  8. 08:14:022 - 08:18:147 - Isn't This part too monotone? Other colors also fits to sound well.. I planned on increasing SV of this, but it would be overkill XD also I think the monotone ending fits more than anything else ;w;
call me back (¦3[▓▓]
omg ty tasuke <3
Prophecy
speedrank again;w;
Senritsu

Prophecy wrote:

speedrank again;w;
tasuke912
No kds
[ Timing]
  1. 02:38:569 - 02:58:514 - please fix bar lines positions

  2. 04:55:766 (8) - (7/4)
  3. 04:57:686 (18) - 4/4
  4. 04:58:646 (26) - 6/4
  5. 04:59:606 (34) - 4/4
  6. 05:01:766 (51) - 4/4
  7. 05:03:686 (74) - (7/4)
  8. 05:05:366 (90) - 4/4

  9. 07:08:521 - I didn't mean check it to existing red line. uncheck it and add red line here.
Topic Starter
Raiden
ok I think I "fixed" them?
Surono
Ok Go!1!!, Nishtzumi pass this map but not iron m,an
tasuke912
Sorry Raiden, I put wrong timestamp ;w;
04:56:006 - 7/4 is here.

and i found better barlines positions.
04:58:646 (26) - 6/4
05:00:086 (38) - 7/4
05:06:326 (97) - 6/4
05:09:206 (1) - 4/4


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from 02:38:569 (1) -
please wait, I'm finding right timing point... :(

Please make backup before trying this. Maybe still has incorrect timing.
[TimingPoints]
569,750,4,1,0,20,1,0
54569,250,4,1,0,80,1,0
78569,-100,4,1,0,80,0,1
86569,-100,4,1,0,80,0,0
161569,250,10,1,0,80,1,0
164069,250,6,1,0,80,1,0
165569,250,4,1,0,80,1,0
172569,250,10,1,0,80,1,0
173569,250,6,1,0,80,1,0
175069,250,4,1,0,80,1,0
179069,375,4,1,0,60,1,1
203069,495.867768595041,4,1,0,60,1,8
203069,-75.7575757575758,4,1,0,60,0,0
203440,500,3,1,0,70,1,0
203440,-75.187969924812,4,1,0,70,0,0
227446,500,5,1,0,70,1,0
227446,-75.187969924812,4,1,0,70,0,0
237446,480,4,1,0,70,1,0
237446,-78.125,4,1,0,70,0,0
268166,240,4,1,0,70,1,0
296006,240,7,1,0,70,1,0
297686,240,4,1,0,70,1,0
298646,240,6,1,0,70,1,0
300086,240,7,1,0,70,1,0
301766,240,4,1,0,70,1,0
303686,240,7,1,0,70,1,0
305366,240,4,1,0,70,1,0
306326,240,6,1,0,70,1,0
308726,-105.263157894737,6,1,0,70,0,0
308846,-111.111111111111,6,1,0,70,0,0
308966,-117.647058823529,6,1,0,70,0,0
309086,-125,6,1,0,50,0,0
309206,240,4,1,0,50,1,0
309206,-133.333333333333,4,1,0,50,0,0
357146,-125,4,1,0,60,0,0
357626,-117.647058823529,4,1,0,70,0,0
358106,-111.111111111111,4,1,0,70,0,0
358586,-105.263157894737,4,1,0,70,0,0
359126,222.222222222222,4,1,0,100,1,1
382237,428.571428571429,4,1,0,90,1,0
382237,-51.8134715025907,4,1,0,90,0,0
399379,300,4,1,0,50,1,0
399379,-74.0740740740741,4,1,0,50,0,0
399454,428.571428571429,4,1,0,70,1,8
399454,-51.8134715025907,4,1,0,70,0,0
400204,461.538461538462,4,1,0,70,1,0
400204,-48.0769230769231,4,1,0,70,0,0
400665,-66.6666666666667,4,1,0,70,0,0
401093,428.571428571429,4,1,0,60,1,0
428521,250,4,1,0,80,1,8
428522,250,4,1,0,80,1,1
468522,-100,4,1,0,100,0,0
Aldwych
Hola Raiden!

Even if you would refuse it, i'll do my own check anyway :V
As i said i find the map generally ok, but i think we can still find something to change/improve. Even if it's pointless

[Terror Ono]

01:00:194 : Due to the "piano" sound (i guess), i would go for k instead, yet i can understand for some contrast but there's no beats to make it d. (Same thing for 01:08:194)
01:03:069 : I'm a bit confuse around here about what you want to do. If we look around, you stack 1/2 most of the time once or twice. You did one time 3 but 4 1/2 in a row is a bit too much. Somehow i can understand if you would put a K here because there's a finisher background sound, but because you didn't that's strange imo.
01:16:069 : Did you miss a finisher? Compared to 01:14:569 for example.
03:52:446 : If we compare, this is simillar to 03:57:446 or at least this is maped on the same intention but not on the same way, one got a break + finisher one doesn't both. Maybe uniformize it? There's a similar streams after also.
04:28:166 : Imo, the speed is a bit too much i would reduce a bit, (or find a middle), then max speed at 04:36:806, that makes more sense.
05:57:206 : "That is the coolest Speedup! I gotta get one of those Speedup! That is beautifull i love that!" :V

Well not much too say i'm not that pro to play, neither mod it efficiently. Just some stuff that i found.
GL hf vs haters ;p
Topic Starter
Raiden

Aldwych wrote:

Hola Raiden!

Even if you would refuse it, i'll do my own check anyway :V
As i said i find the map generally ok, but i think we can still find something to change/improve. Even if it's pointless

[Terror Ono]

01:00:194 : Due to the "piano" sound (i guess), i would go for k instead, yet i can understand for some contrast but there's no beats to make it d. (Same thing for 01:08:194) apart from the contrast there is a beat... a bass drum hit. My mapping style is based on percussion mostly with really few exceptions (like guitar solos where I improvise a bit more)
01:03:069 : I'm a bit confuse around here about what you want to do. If we look around, you stack 1/2 most of the time once or twice. You did one time 3 but 4 1/2 in a row is a bit too much. Somehow i can understand if you would put a K here because there's a finisher background sound, but because you didn't that's strange imo. finishers only fit at the beginning of stanzas the way i mapped it, besides after the beginning of each stanza there are a handful of notes (be it 3 or 4) and i don't see it as a problem. The melody also sounds different in the 2nd stanza than on the first so I deemed the 1/4 unnecessary
01:16:069 : Did you miss a finisher? Compared to 01:14:569 for example. the snare hit is not as strong as the ones with finishers
03:52:446 : If we compare, this is simillar to 03:57:446 or at least this is maped on the same intention but not on the same way, one got a break + finisher one doesn't both. Maybe uniformize it? There's a similar streams after also. it's different, after the isolated kkkkk (which I intentionally isolated) there is a BPM change which would be shitty to play and to look at if I filled it up, so it's intentional
04:28:166 : Imo, the speed is a bit too much i would reduce a bit, (or find a middle), then max speed at 04:36:806, that makes more sense. the music goes rather nuts at this point already, so it'd be pointless to put less speed at it. Besides the 1/4 patterns like 04:35:366 - would be unreadable due to the scrolling speed
05:57:206 : "That is the coolest Speedup! I gotta get one of those Speedup! That is beautifull i love that!" :V lol ty i also think it's kinda cool

Well not much too say i'm not that pro to play, neither mod it efficiently. Just some stuff that i found.
GL hf vs haters ;p
thanks for the check!
Topic Starter
Raiden
sorry for doublepost

according to Deif, so many new timing sections were unnecessary and the original timing from Mazzerin was kinda accurate albeit imperfect (although getting perfect timing on this is like trying to find unicorns...)

I don't really know what to do, I guess I'll just wait for lolcubes :/
XeoStyle
Ok this my timing check for this part (i'm gonna applie it to my map too) :

04:56:006 - 7/4
04:57:686 - 4/4
04:59:606 - 3/4 (and not 6/4 since it's only 3 major beats and not 4)
05:01:766 - 4/4
05:03:686 - 7/4
05:05:366 - 4/4
05:07:286 - 3/4
05:08:726 - 2/4 ? i'm not sure about this one, but it's not rare to find 2/4 in prog metal time signatures to finish a loop like in this section. If it's not it's 4/4 then.
tasuke912
Barlines positions have improved. I think fine.

Bubbled! #1
Topic Starter
Raiden
omg ;w;
Loooctav

tasuke912 wrote:

Barlines positions have improved. I think fine.

Bubbled! #1
hyppppppeeeeeee
Midnaait
ok
Aldwych
ok
OzzyOzrock
Added more notes to a part with too few.

SPOILER
[removed butt talk] 
17:24 OzzyOzrock: so do you wanna add notes at the 05:43:766 part? like i said it gets a lot busier than the previous part so it could warrant AT LEAST constant 1/1 etc
17:24 OzzyOzrock: fuck you editor
17:24 Raiden: DAMN
17:24 Raiden: sure i can
17:24 Raiden: just
17:25 Raiden: do some extra 1/2 triplets
17:25 Raiden: for the bas
17:25 Raiden: s
17:25 OzzyOzrock: ya
17:25 OzzyOzrock: e
17:25 OzzyOzrock: bae
17:25 Raiden: om
17:28 Raiden: fixd
17:28 Raiden: do you like those extra dons
17:28 OzzyOzrock: 28 notes hype
17:28 OzzyOzrock: this is sexy...
17:28 OzzyOzrock: 2 more and 3500...
17:28 OzzyOzrock: holy shit
17:29 OzzyOzrock: thats a lot of notes
17:29 Raiden: FUCK
17:29 Raiden: OK
17:29 Raiden: CAN I
17:29 OzzyOzrock: ok...
17:29 Raiden: no ok
17:29 Raiden: i'll put 1 more
17:29 Raiden: to trigger OCDs
17:29 OzzyOzrock: LMAO
17:29 Raiden: 3499
17:29 OzzyOzrock: that's more authentic anyways
17:29 OzzyOzrock: since 999
17:29 OzzyOzrock: except
17:29 OzzyOzrock: 999 is actually
17:29 OzzyOzrock: really pleasing

Bubble #2!
autofanboy
this is so easy
Surono
how ez,.
lolcubes
I am superlate, but I had so much work that I couldn't do anything in time, sorry. However, I am here now (better late than never ;_;).

[Timing]
  1. 02:52:569 - This timing section should be removed. To be honest, this whole section is incorrectly timed. I am 100% sure the metronome doesn't change erratically like this, but it's not mapped so w/e.
    Because of this, I would propose a more correct change.
    1. 02:38:569 - Set a 240 BPM timing section here and make it 3/4. The music gives off a waltzy feeling so leaving it 3/4 all the way to 02:55:069 - is fine. Just because there is a tone at a given time, it doesn't mean a downbeat should be there. This would simplify a lot of things, and with 3/4 heavier notes actually do come on the downbeats (can't really be coincidence).
    2. 02:55:069 - Leaving it as 4/4 as it's noticeably different here and 4/4 fits. Others between can get removed.
      Apart from the first red line I am suggesting, all these are kinda optional since it's not mapped, but it would be nice to change.
  2. 03:23:069 - This note is way too early. Try moving the red line to 03:23:087 and making it 120 bpm. There is no indication of a different BPM for this section, despite the offset shift. (EDIT: Don't forget to include another red line at 03:23:069 - for "omit the first barline" thingy. Actually you found this so THANKS. ╭( ・ㅂ・)و )
  3. 03:23:440 - This would need +6 offset. You made such a change here - 03:57:446, and that change is good. Basically, you just need to bring it in line.
  4. 03:47:440 - Same here, +6 to bring it in line.
  5. 04:58:646 - This one is wrong. If you listen carefully, a downbeat could be found at 04:59:606. The evidence is at 04:54:086. This piece of music repeats throughout this section a lot, and is always 2 bars of 4/4, and then a switch.

    To make this easier and more simple, just change it to the following (ignore if you already have), I will explain at the end why.
    1. 04:56:006 - 3/4
    2. 04:56:726 - 4/4
    3. 04:59:606 - 3/4
    4. 05:01:766 - 4/4
    5. 05:03:686 - 3/4
    6. 05:04:406 - 4/4
    7. 05:07:286 - 3/4
    The reason for this is just pure logic:
    04:54:086 - 2 bars of 4/4 and then a change at 04:56:006. However, I would also notice that 04:56:726 - is the next heavy beat. Because of this, while the way of using 7/4 wouldn't be much too incorrect, but 3/4 + 4/4 would be correct regardless, and because of this, you can justify the 3/4 later.
    04:59:606 - This is the part where I really need to explain why this should be 3/4. First of all, if you follow the logic I explained above, then this would work, but 05:00:086 - sounds really heavy. That doesn't mean it has to be a downbeat though, it's just syncopated. Leaving this whole section in 3/4 and listening to the more subtle sounds would actually support this 3/4 (quiet drum rolls at 05:00:326 - and 05:01:046, and 2 additional strong syncopated drum hits on 05:00:806 - and 05:01:526 - .)
    And this just repeats.
    At the very end, it's slightly different, but the music "cuts off" compared to this so I think it fits too.
Everything else looks fine to me.

EDIT2:

It seems everyone including me missed this, but there is a similar metronome issue later as well:

  • 06:09:792 - 6/4
  1. 06:11:125 - 4/4
  2. 06:12:903 - 6/4
  3. 06:14:236 - 4/4
  4. 06:16:014 - 6/4
  5. 06:17:347 - 4/4
  6. 06:19:124 - 6/4
  7. 06:20:457 - 4/4
  8. 06:22:237 - and you need to fix the note, it escaped the green line which brings it to a stream end.

    If you listen to the melody, it has a distinct pattern which begins at 06:09:792 and repeats. This time, it's a 6/4 section then two 4/4 sections and this cycle repeats.
  9. 07:08:521 - Add +8 offset here, it's a little early.
╭( ・ㅂ・)و
Topic Starter
Raiden
Done, fixed everything

next round of rebubbles please...
lolcubes
╭( ・ㅂ・)و
Topic Starter
Raiden
should be EVERYTHING fixed now ;_;

summoning the ranking squad...

tasuke912
OzzyOzrock
MMzz
OzzyOzrock
prostate

RE-RE-BUBBLED!
Topic Starter
Raiden
will this be the definitive?
tasuke912
Few things

  1. 02:38:569 - I still think this section is 4/4, the echoes sound like Half-note in this song, isn't it? If using 3/4, barelines looks really out of place especially 2nd and 4th. I can't agree without official data tbh

    Following tab isn't official, but it still keeps 4/4 rhythm.

  2. 03:23:821 (2,3) - I thought it should keep 1/1 rhythm in the similar way as 03:26:946 (6,7) -. 3/4+6/4+3/4 rhythm doesn't fit to the sound well and it seems like rhythm breaker.
Topic Starter
Raiden

tasuke912 wrote:

Few things

  1. 02:38:569 - I still think this section is 4/4, the echoes sound like Half-note in this song, isn't it? If using 3/4, barelines looks really out of place especially 2nd and 4th. I can't agree without official data tbh Bringing perfect timing to that section is borderline impossible, and we shouldn't care too much because it isn't even mapped. I agree with lolcubes here, the song gives out a waltz-y feeling so I preferred to keep it 3/4, the echoes are just reverberations of the instrument but the main downbeats come down in 3/4 signature, it can't be a coincidence ;w; fixed

    Following tab isn't official, but it still keeps 4/4 rhythm.

  2. 03:23:821 (2,3) - I thought it should keep 1/1 rhythm in the similar way as 03:26:946 (6,7) -. 3/4+6/4+3/4 rhythm doesn't fit to the sound well and it seems like rhythm breaker. fixed
Thanks for the re-re-re-re-re-re-check ;w;

EDIT: changed 02:38:569 - to 4/4 thanks to Charles445 and Nwolf for check
tasuke912
Bubbled! #2
Aldwych
gogo Gezo!
Yuzeyun
jeg sagde ikke jeg vil kvalificere apparition
Topic Starter
Raiden
to next BN / checker

i changed the 1/6 (kkkk) to 1/4 kkkkk in the 01:10:569 - section
Topic Starter
Raiden
Prophecy

alienflybot wrote:

this is so easy
afb time to fc it

( • ̀ω•́ )✰x2

#EDIT : teach me to map perfect map pls ;w;w;;w;w;
Surono

Prophecy wrote:

#EDIT : teach me to map perfect map pls ;w;w;;w;w;
nothing with "pf" things, btw there is only "enough" things..
MMzz
Wow its like this will never be ranked.
Akiyama Mizuki
somebody rank this this is a good map I mean why not
LZD
rank plsssssss
Nwolf
Topic Starter
Raiden
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