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osu!mania critisism is so unfair
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I'm afraid I can't do that...It's not because of technical issues, I'll just say it plainly.
I am unfixably crappy at Taiko.
I said it. There.
Sorry.
I don't mean to come off rude here but I'll look at what I would consider facts.
- You have been playing this game for two months, not long enough to understand the mania community properly.
- This is most likely the first and only VSRG game that you play, which is fine however if you played any of the other ones you would understand why people dislike this game to a degree where they would look for any reason to hate players from this community.
The reason why nobody who's a veteran of osu!mania has made a post like this is because they understand the flaws in this game and "community" that plays it.
I recommend you try other VSRG games and see for yourself so you can understand better for yourself as well.
- You have been playing this game for two months, not long enough to understand the mania community properly.
- This is most likely the first and only VSRG game that you play, which is fine however if you played any of the other ones you would understand why people dislike this game to a degree where they would look for any reason to hate players from this community.
The reason why nobody who's a veteran of osu!mania has made a post like this is because they understand the flaws in this game and "community" that plays it.
I recommend you try other VSRG games and see for yourself so you can understand better for yourself as well.
CortFromPort
I can see you've had to bear this burden for quite some time (2 months) and I'm sorry you've had to deal with this. But what you have to understand is that mania was never anything worth defending or getting upset over having a bad community to begin with. It's nothing but a vsrg with no valuable defining factors making it feel like one of the biggest wastes of time. If you can't take people coming in and expressing their opinion that everybody else in the community loves to hear, than most likely this isn't the kind of game for you. Or hey, there's even this thing where you can just not log in resulting in nobody being able to tell you how bad your favorite game is. Hope this solved your problem <3
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm just going to waste more of my life on this amazing game.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm just going to waste more of my life on this amazing game.
Topic Starter
You're not coming off as rude, this is actually the most productive thing anyone's said in about 5 years of my life...RoFAIL wrote:
I don't mean to come off rude here but I'll look at what I would consider facts.
- You have been playing this game for two months, not long enough to understand the mania community properly.
- This is most likely the first and only VSRG game that you play, which is fine however if you played any of the other ones you would understand why people dislike this game to a degree where they would look for any reason to hate players from this community.
The reason why nobody who's a veteran of osu!mania has made a post like this is because they understand the flaws in this game and "community" that plays it.
I recommend you try other VSRG games and see for yourself so you can understand better for yourself as well.
It's also that I have very internal.... eh, problems. I'm definately going to be waiting for something to try and be like how I percieve this and then everything falls apart because I really don't know what I'm talking about but I'm irritated enough at the time to think I do
If you know what I mean XD
I concur--these Stepmania players are ruining the integrity of the mania community. Someone needed to stop the toxicity and put these players in their place. Thank you for being brave enough to stand up and make your voice heard. How dare they presume to
I don't see what everyone's problem is. The arguments between osu!mania and sm are so pointless.
Which is why you should only play auto converts with 4K mod.
Which is why you should only play auto converts with 4K mod.
Just play and have fun.
what are osu!maniacs
don't do autoconverts kids
don't do autoconverts kids
First off: complaining about how an outside community sees osu in osu's forums is hilariously pointless.
Second: osu! has a reputation for having a bad community (have you ever looked at the rest of the forum, or #osu? it's enough to make me gag on the stupidity sometimes) Osu! was generally seen as a complete joke in terms of actual rhythm games by most outside communities.
Third: There are legitimate problems with osu!mania, so it's not much of a surprise that people would hate on it. Nothing is more annoying than seeing a game you consider flat out bad pick up a growing community while your own game of choice seems to be slowly dieing out (stepmania has been around a long time now, and has seen it's community dwindle over the past years).
In short: this thread was completely pointless. If you want to complain, feel free to head over to FFR and see what happens (hint, this is not a good idea).
Second: osu! has a reputation for having a bad community (have you ever looked at the rest of the forum, or #osu? it's enough to make me gag on the stupidity sometimes) Osu! was generally seen as a complete joke in terms of actual rhythm games by most outside communities.
Third: There are legitimate problems with osu!mania, so it's not much of a surprise that people would hate on it. Nothing is more annoying than seeing a game you consider flat out bad pick up a growing community while your own game of choice seems to be slowly dieing out (stepmania has been around a long time now, and has seen it's community dwindle over the past years).
In short: this thread was completely pointless. If you want to complain, feel free to head over to FFR and see what happens (hint, this is not a good idea).
as a serious response
you don't know where most players come from nor can you make the assumption that every player who is mean 2 u
is from Stepmania
considering you're the only one who thought making a thread like this was a good idea means you don't know this community well enough to justify it being made
you also seem to be getting irrationally mad at "stepmania players" and that's silly given how often other players from other games come here and complain about how bad osumania is
I mean, I have NEVER seen an osu!mania talk badly towards a Stepmania player as the occasional rude one does to us, and I have never seen any osu!mania players who dislike Stepmania to the point of anger.
you don't know where most players come from nor can you make the assumption that every player who is mean 2 u
is from Stepmania considering you're the only one who thought making a thread like this was a good idea means you don't know this community well enough to justify it being made
you also seem to be getting irrationally mad at "stepmania players" and that's silly given how often other players from other games come here and complain about how bad osumania is
ilyBobbias wrote:
If you want to complain, feel free to head over to FFR and see what happens (hint, this is not a good idea).
OSUMANIA FUCKING SUCKS HAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHA
mania is bad and you should feel bad
yeah i agree tbh
stepmania is a festering shithole of people with mental health issues and elitists that can't accept anything with LONG nTOes
remove stepmania, thank you for bringing this to the attention of the osu!!!mAbnia community
stepmania is a festering shithole of people with mental health issues and elitists that can't accept anything with LONG nTOes
remove stepmania, thank you for bringing this to the attention of the osu!!!mAbnia community
waaah osumania sucks but i'll still come here every time and play it
*does converts*-Kamikaze- wrote:
don't do autoconverts kids
There are 3 kinds of people:
- Stepmania fa*s
- LR2/O2jam fa*s
- osu!mania fa*s
- and space time lovers
- Stepmania fa*s
- LR2/O2jam fa*s
- osu!mania fa*s
- and space time lovers
I play osu from time to time and enjoy it when playing good charts but the game has its flaws that keeps me from playing it as much as other games.
If you want to defend osu, here are its upsides:
1. very easy to use map editor
2. built-in irc client + multiplayer with servers
3. map uploading server
4. ability to spectate other players
All of those are things that other rhythm games tend to lack and I'd love if they had them.
However osu has downsides in other aspects such as:
1. very limited skinning
2. default and cap map settings that lead to bad habits and hurt improvement rate
3. low mapping standards
4. immature community
All of those downsides sometimes make osu frustrating to play or talk about with others, but if you simply ignore all the annoying people and only play with friends, ignore all the shitty maps and only play the good ones, use logical map settings and try to play well, and find a decent skin, then osu can feel like a pretty alright game that's fun to spend time on.
So there you go. Here's a fair criticism. Now quit 4K because it's shit, come play 7K and join LR2. we have cookies, you'll be overjoyed.
If you want to defend osu, here are its upsides:
1. very easy to use map editor
2. built-in irc client + multiplayer with servers
3. map uploading server
4. ability to spectate other players
All of those are things that other rhythm games tend to lack and I'd love if they had them.
However osu has downsides in other aspects such as:
1. very limited skinning
2. default and cap map settings that lead to bad habits and hurt improvement rate
3. low mapping standards
4. immature community
All of those downsides sometimes make osu frustrating to play or talk about with others, but if you simply ignore all the annoying people and only play with friends, ignore all the shitty maps and only play the good ones, use logical map settings and try to play well, and find a decent skin, then osu can feel like a pretty alright game that's fun to spend time on.
So there you go. Here's a fair criticism. Now quit 4K because it's shit, come play 7K and join LR2. we have cookies, you'll be overjoyed.
I think you misspelled "literally non-existent"Aqo wrote:
3. low mapping standards
osu! is just more player friendly. It's like having autoaim in shooter games. Thats why it's taken as a joke. Where the players come from, stepmania, o2jam, or LR2, you dont get the friendly game mechanics mania has.
In a nutshell:
Imagine playing shooter game with no gui and a shooter game with gui and autoaim.
In a nutshell:
Imagine playing shooter game with no gui and a shooter game with gui and autoaim.
what are you even talking aboutabraker wrote:
osu! is just more player friendly. It's like having autoaim in shooter games. Thats why it's taken as a joke. Where the players come from, stepmania, o2jam, or LR2, you dont get the friendly game mechanics mania has.
In a nutshell:
Imagine playing shooter game with no gui and a shooter game with gui and autoaim.
did you forget to turn off auto mod?
he's probably talking about mashing being easy, clearing being easy and the way that long notes work.Hestia- wrote:
what are you even talking about
did you forget to turn off auto mod?
Osu!Mania is so fun c:
Just ignore the "yolostepmaniaisbetterandosumaniaisshit" ppl and you will have fun ^-^
Just ignore the "yolostepmaniaisbetterandosumaniaisshit" ppl and you will have fun ^-^
Yea, I probably exagerated it a bit too much.OperaMini0 wrote:
he's probably talking about mashing being easy, clearing being easy and the way that long notes work.Hestia- wrote:
what are you even talking about
did you forget to turn off auto mod?
mashing being easy = you will get shit score anywayOperaMini0 wrote:
he's probably talking about mashing being easy, clearing being easy and the way that long notes work.Hestia- wrote:
what are you even talking about
did you forget to turn off auto mod?
clearing being easy = HP10 is so easy ;<
Long notes = atleast they are better than Stepmania holds LMFAO /me runz
just having fun of this thread
and you are one of themTidek wrote:
- and space time lovers
See, the funny thing is that we have standards. They're just the wrong standards. It makes me sad to see good maps forever stuck in the graveyard because of the absurd rules we have for ranking maps here. Having a full difficulty spread doesn't mean that every difficulty in that map is going to be good quality and fun to play. Neither does requiring hitsounds. Neither does the modding process for that matter. There are dozens of unranked beatmaps that are more fun than the majority of ranked maps out there that nobody plays because if your map isn't ranked, 95% of the community will never know it exists.Redon wrote:
I think you misspelled "literally non-existent"Aqo wrote:
3. low mapping standards
Ok, serious now
@Bobbias
To be honest, most of people who are complaining about what you called "ranking standards" dont have a single map ranked and they have no idea how that process look like. I can agree that 2 years ago ranking process was very restricted and it was impossible to rank something harder, but unfortunately those people still live in past, at the moment ranking really hard stuff isnt that problematic like it was 2 years ago (of course, its still not perfect). Just look on standard mode and some new ranked mania maps.
(for me its more being a lazy ass, because I dont believe that if you can map good hard diff then you cant make anything easier same good)
@Bobbias
To be honest, most of people who are complaining about what you called "ranking standards" dont have a single map ranked and they have no idea how that process look like. I can agree that 2 years ago ranking process was very restricted and it was impossible to rank something harder, but unfortunately those people still live in past, at the moment ranking really hard stuff isnt that problematic like it was 2 years ago (of course, its still not perfect). Just look on standard mode and some new ranked mania maps.
It makes me sad to see good maps forever stuck in the graveyard because of the absurd rules we have for ranking maps here.Most of very good maps are stuck in graveyard not because they are unrankable or something (because they are EASILY rankable these times), but cause of that mappers are too lazy to push map forward into the ranking process and they prefer to complain on forum that how the ranking process is bad here instead of push map forward, its funny lol. (rest of maps are dump/overmap stuff, but there isnt a lot of them)
Having a full difficulty spread doesn't mean that every difficulty in that map is going to be good quality and fun to play.What do you mean here? If mapper is scared that easier difficulties wont be as good as his the hardest difficulty, then ask for GD? There is a lot of options.
(for me its more being a lazy ass, because I dont believe that if you can map good hard diff then you cant make anything easier same good)
Neither does requiring hitsounds.Well, agree, But since we have some tools that makes doing it a lot easier and faster, then I dont care honestly lol (unless its a marathon map)
Neither does the modding process for that matter.Modding process isnt necessary thing in a ranking process, for example t/382232 Its all depends of quality of map.
Saying that certain standards are wrong but doing nothing against it is redundant, Bobbias. Nevermind how obvious it might be for an experienced person. Coming from Taiko, I can actually understand yours and other people's feeling in this matter when certain standards in osu! interfer with the gamemode you like and might even disturb its evolvement. It's especially a problem for older people like us, who come from older communities with possible more refined standards in certain matters, which can sometimes even lead to heated discussions. But that doesn't mean that you can't treat these problems and request certain changes or find a middle way in some way. Especially for someone who is -as I heared- so well known in the mania community like you, Bobbias, who probably has a lot of experience as well, should it be possible to help this community and lead it into an approximately right direction.
So instead of taking it as it is, people should treat the problems. Taking action. Else, if this isn't possible, I would just refer to what Aqo said.
So instead of taking it as it is, people should treat the problems. Taking action. Else, if this isn't possible, I would just refer to what Aqo said.
20 modding queue posts and 5 personal requests and no modsTidek wrote:
mappers are too lazy to push map forward into the ranking process
#lazyness
osumania dongs
E: my 101st shitpost here
E: my 101st shitpost here
I dont want to know which queues and which ppl you were requesting lolAqo wrote:
20 modding queue posts and 5 personal requests and no modsTidek wrote:
mappers are too lazy to push map forward into the ranking process
#lazyness