23:11 Kyubey: okoooooooooooooooooooooo
23:11 Kyubey: hi oko
23:11 Okoratu: ?
23:11 Kyubey: mind a quick irccheck of my NH tvsize?
23:12 Okoratu: a check = bubble or a check = just look at and mod ? xd
23:12 Kyubey: it doesn't have any mods but i'm sure it's totally clear because you know russian mapping spirit
23:12 Kyubey: bubble
23:12 Kyubey: even if a hard is a collab with irre
23:12 *Kyubey is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/817856 Ayaka Ohashi - Oshiete Blue Sky]
23:12 Kyubey: this one
23:13 Kyubey: i'm a filthy tvsize mapper
23:14 Okoratu: lol
23:15 Okoratu: the only tv size i'll do for probably quite some time is that futa song
23:15 Okoratu: B)
23:15 Kyubey: o
23:15 Kyubey: feel free to call me to bubble it too
23:16 Okoratu: lanturn wanted to throw a few words on it so i'll wait for that i guess
23:16 Kyubey: oke
23:17 Okoratu: 00:32:333 (3,4,1) - is this irre
23:17 Kyubey: yes
23:17 Okoratu: pls tell me this is irre
23:17 Okoratu: he should never blame me for my spacing again if he does that
23:17 Kyubey:
23:17 Kyubey: should i send that to him?
23:18 Okoratu: f
23:18 Okoratu: 00:45:458 (2,3) -
23:18 Okoratu: isn't he hiding a repeat arrow
23:18 Okoratu: for
23:18 Okoratu: like
23:18 Okoratu: quite some time there?
23:18 Kyubey: lol
23:18 Kyubey: indeed
23:19 Kyubey: though it's visible with default skin
23:19 Kyubey: but hmmm
23:19 Okoratu: it's
23:19 Okoratu: making reading harder
23:19 Okoratu: for sure
23:19 Okoratu: lol
23:19 Okoratu: 01:05:379 (4,5,6) - can u not throw this over 1/6
23:20 Kyubey: what
23:20 Kyubey: it's 1/4
23:20 Okoratu: ???
23:21 Okoratu: the drumroll is 1/6
23:21 Okoratu: it's 4 sounds lol
23:21 Kyubey: or you mean you want me to map it 1/6?
23:21 Kyubey: well i don't want to make the comlpex rhythm
23:22 Okoratu: well then avoid the complex rhythm but pls no 1/4 over 1/6 if the only drumroll is 1/6
23:23 Kyubey: i don't want to leave that place without something fast
23:23 Kyubey: and 1/6 is way too fast
23:23 Kyubey: so 1/4 looks goodd for me
23:23 Kyubey: 01:19:676 (4,5,1) - even irre ddid that
23:24 Okoratu: why :c
23:24 Kyubey: because we don't want to leave that sound
23:24 Okoratu: like he mapped the 1/6 in 00:48:348 (4) -
23:24 Kyubey: it's different
23:25 Okoratu: just slapping repeat sliders over them would work but i guess you "want ppl to click"
23:25 Kyubey: it has more beats, and it's in different rhythm pattern
23:26 Okoratu: http://puu.sh/l9zvy/2ec9c42c29.jpg or 1/2 would both work while being correct with the music but i guess this will go just like our last discussion about things
23:26 Okoratu: xD
23:27 Kyubey: thats definitely russian mapping
23:27 Kyubey: and you suggest german one
23:27 Okoratu: i d i d n 't k nwo irre is russia n
23:27 Okoratu: aasdf
23:28 Kyubey: thats a secret
23:28 Kyubey: tsss
23:28 Kyubey: don't tell anyone
23:28 Okoratu: your storyboarded hitsounds are way too loud
23:28 Okoratu: lol
23:28 Kyubey: thats a bug, reload the map
23:29 Okoratu: interesting bug
23:30 Kyubey: though irre did change that slider
23:30 Kyubey: i'll update when you tell
23:30 Kyubey: storyboard samples never worked well though
23:31 Kyubey: but i have to use them because irre's rhythm
23:32 Okoratu: 00:32:333 (3,4) - i'd really prefer more predictable low spacing there
23:33 Okoratu: would also fit the drop in intensity of that part
23:33 Okoratu: blablah
23:33 Kyubey: eeeh but that plays as 1/2
23:33 Okoratu: 01:00:223 (7,2,3) - stacking looks weird ingame, like it just looks a bit broken
23:34 Okoratu: eh but the part is more calm than the rest and it's 1/4 zz
23:34 Kyubey: but no gameplay difference
23:35 Okoratu: u mean the stack ?
23:35 Okoratu: no it just looks a bit dumb lol
23:35 Kyubey: i mean spacing
23:35 Kyubey: i'm fixing the stack
23:36 Okoratu: the difference is that it's harder to read than the rest of the part
23:36 Okoratu: because you could also assume that the repeat sliders are just repeating once and 1/2
23:36 Okoratu: apart
23:38 Kyubey: told irre
23:39 Okoratu: i have the urge to combo 00:48:973 (5) -
23:39 Okoratu: idk if it destroys something lol
23:40 Kyubey: http://kyubey.s-ul.eu/TKl10boe.png
23:41 Okoratu: nice explanation
23:42 Kyubey: probably he is tired
23:42 Kyubey: but i think better to not force if he doesn't want to change
23:43 Okoratu: which of the 2 things for his things i mentioned is that an answer to
23:43 Kyubey: 00:32:333 (3,4) -
23:44 Kyubey: he changed the hidden repeat slider
23:44 Kyubey: but doesn't want to change this
23:44 Okoratu: the other thing i said is that i think it'd be better if 01:06:083 (1) - was shorter to end where the vocal actually ends
23:45 Kyubey: you didn't
23:45 Kyubey: but i discussed long sliders with him beforee
23:45 Kyubey: he doesn't want to change them too
23:45 Okoratu: man i feel dumb modding this
23:46 Kyubey: why
23:46 Okoratu: i bring up some things, explain stuff and get "nope i don't want to change that"
23:46 Okoratu: instead of an explanation why it's necessary/needed
23:47 Kyubey: usually it goes as "because i like how does it look/sound now"
23:47 Kyubey: i often don't accept some things even if they're explained
23:47 Okoratu: i
23:47 Okoratu: uh
23:47 Kyubey: just because i prefer my way of doing that thing
23:47 Okoratu: know that
23:49 Okoratu: but 01:06:083 (1) - is literally long held vocal that ends on white tick and next vocal is on the red one after, and 01:17:333 (1) - is longer because the vocal is longer but i just don't see why the first slider the same length
23:49 Okoratu: buuuuuuuuuuuut ok
23:50 Kyubey: seems like he wanted to point at 01:07:254 - this with the slider end
23:50 Okoratu: wot
23:50 Kyubey: "ki" in the song
23:51 Kyubey: and he wanted to end it on the start of next word
23:51 Okoratu: i can see that but i don't get why
23:51 Okoratu: because the next one doesn't do that xD
23:51 Kyubey: probably for consistency with slider lengths
23:52 Kyubey: can i update? or something is still up?
23:52 Okoratu: modder spirit broken xd
23:52 Kyubey:
23:53 Okoratu: the only thing im seriously worried about is the 1/4 over 1/6
23:53 Kyubey: i did that before in some my map
23:53 Kyubey: it works well
23:54 Okoratu: someone once told me that that's not an excuse for continuing to do stuff that way
23:54 Kyubey: it's a hard after all
23:54 Kyubey: simplifying rhythm is a great excuse though
23:55 Okoratu: then you should also be allowed to map 1/6 over 1/4 in order to complicate rhythm
23:56 Okoratu: and one case is allowed while the other isn't xD
23:56 Kyubey: because people prefer undermapping and don't like overmapping
23:56 Kyubey: at least a lot of mappers
23:56 Okoratu: isn't overmapping
23:57 Okoratu: defined as mapping stuff that isn't supported by the song
23:58 Kyubey: maaaaan i won't change that to 1/6, it's totally fine with being 1/4
23:58 Okoratu: i know you won't
23:58 Okoratu: im not even discussing that anymore I'm just collecting arguments for and against it for fun lmao
23:59 Kyubey: OH YOU
23:59 Kyubey: btw do you like my ringbells?
00:00 Okoratu: yes those are niceee
00:01 Kyubey: yay
00:05 Okoratu: so 2/1 in normal is supposed to not stack ??
00:05 Kyubey: why not
00:05 Kyubey: irre told me it's ok
00:06 Kyubey: they do even have the NCs
00:06 Kyubey: to make them readable
00:06 Okoratu: i just thought it's a bit odd to have that nothing more
00:06 Kyubey: what more
00:06 Kyubey: where
00:06 Kyubey: my russian rhythm choice is perfect
00:07 Okoratu: 00:43:114 (3,1) - can u move this 4x4y to not have them so hshort to touch
00:07 Okoratu: ing
00:08 Kyubey: oh stacks
00:08 Kyubey: moved
00:11 Okoratu: most of the stuff i wanted to mention is like
00:11 Okoratu: ultra minor
00:11 Okoratu: and i don't like that
00:11 Okoratu: and you don't like that and idk what else there is to do with this
00:11 Kyubey: nazi okoratu
00:12 Okoratu: no dap wanted me to nazi on his map
00:12 Kyubey: just leave these things
00:12 Kyubey: most of nazi stuff doesn't affect the gameplay
00:12 Okoratu: 2015-11-03 22:56 Yuii-: okay, i'm liking this!
00:12 Okoratu: 2015-11-03 22:56 Yuii-: can i bubble?
00:14 Okoratu: is the video filename telling me to stop looking at the folder
00:14 Kyubey: it does
00:14 Kyubey: but it says to not watch the video
00:15 Kyubey: i found it funny
00:15 Okoratu: nice there's a video
00:15 Kyubey: WHAT THE FUCK I LOOKED AT YOUR USERPAGE FUCKING LENNY SPIDERS SCARED ME
00:15 Kyubey: the video is cutee
00:15 Okoratu: tbh i just stole them from a youtube comment
00:16 Okoratu: on an Undertale ost that i want to map
00:16 Kyubey: rip toriel
00:17 Kyubey: meta sources in the creator words though
00:17 Kyubey: i didn't find anything like (tv size)
00:17 Kyubey: probably because album is not out yet
00:21 Kyubey: sooo should i update?
00:22 Okoratu: yes
00:25 Kyubey: updated
00:25 *Kyubey is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/817856 Ayaka Ohashi - Oshiete Blue Sky [Hard]]
00:28 Okoratu: the video really is cute
00:29 Kyubey: anime is cute too, even if it has some mecha
00:29 Okoratu: 00:00:458 - can u get rid of that green line in normal it doesn't do anything lol
00:31 Kyubey: rip greenline
00:32 Okoratu: am i dumb or is your normal-hitnormal the default normal-hitnormal
00:32 Kyubey: it's edited to be more quiet
00:32 Kyubey: updated
00:32 Okoratu: sure
00:34 Okoratu: the bling bling things have like 1~2 ms delay at most but i don't think you're going to cut that out right
00:34 Kyubey: yep
00:34 Kyubey: acceptable one is <5 ms
00:34 Kyubey: it was like 6 ms before, i was too lazy to cut it neat
00:36 Kyubey: ./╲/\╭( ͡° ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° ͡°)╮/\╱\
00:36 Okoratu: video is pixelland but i guess there isn't any higher quality and you're lazy right
00:36 Kyubey: the hell
00:36 Kyubey: if i make the quality better it will be way too huge
00:36 Kyubey: fоnt change /╲/\╭( ͡° ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° ͡°)╮/\╱\
00:37 Okoratu: you seem to have taken a liking in that thingy
00:37 Kyubey: thats a fucking lenny spiders
00:39 Okoratu: this song is so cute holy shit
00:39 Kyubey: \o\
00:40 Kyubey: thats why i decided to map it
00:40 Okoratu: so how do i bubble it now
00:40 Kyubey: o
00:40 Kyubey: lemme throw stars
00:40 Okoratu: hula once told me i should not speedqualify stuff
00:41 Okoratu: but i really don't care if the thing is ready throwing minor shit at it won't do anything
00:41 Okoratu: l o l
00:41 Kyubey: >listening to hula
00:42 Kyubey: +12
00:42 Kyubey: the fuck that star
00:42 Okoratu: intercepting with a star
00:42 Okoratu: xD
00:42 Kyubey: thats a combobreak
00:46 Kyubey: i wonder if it will be possible to get first post bubble and second one qualify
00:51 Okoratu: uh
00:51 Okoratu: i think video is out of sync with song
00:51 Okoratu: i tried a video offset around -220
00:51 Okoratu: idk if that's closer to the real thing
00:55 Kyubey: eeeeh, no, it was originally like that if you check it with other scenes that appear a little late
00:55 Kyubey: they appear late even in original video
00:56 Okoratu: i don't know
00:56 Okoratu: i never watched the original
00:56 Okoratu: so -220 was my best guess to make ~most~ things line up better but ok
00:56 Kyubey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXSCH8yLupk
01:05 Kyubey: probably you forgot to post so i'm here to remind you
01:50 Okoratu: lol that thing is terribly off
01:50 Okoratu: nice
02:17 Kyubey: sooooooooooooo
02:17 Kyubey: did you forget or something?
02:18 Okoratu: nop
02:18 Kyubey: you don't want to bubble?
02:18 Okoratu: i will
02:19 Kyubey: okee