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-Kanzaki

Joined June 2012

-Kanzaki 2016-04-30T08:42:20+00:00

EX EX :

01:10:633 (1,2,3,4) - this is really hard to read with the 01:10:030 (1,1). And they also stacked with each other it makes 01:10:935 (3,4) - impossible to read and you had to memorize to play it actually but my point is you actually didn't do this much difficult on same other part 02:37:468 (1,2,3,4) - on here we can see every slider startings. I believe while these are same parts, same music but the reading difficulty difference between them is kind of huge for me.

ouranhshc

2,338 posts

Joined July 2009

ouranhshc 2016-04-30T13:40:33+00:00

Moecho's Another
02:29:628 (1,2,3,4) - just curious, is there a reason why this is snapped to 1/2 ticks when sliders and circles in the same section are snapped to the 1/3 ticks (and 1/6 if taking the repeating sliders that follow afterwards)

fanzhen's
02:19:679 (1,2,3) - ehh, kinda aesthetics but if you wanted it to match the other similar patterns in this part of the song. Could rotate this ~10 degrees around the selection center and then restacking (1) under the slider starts

As for the Extra and EX Ex diffs:
nice idea, poor execution.

For example on Extra:
00:55:558 - 01:04:000 - in this section, the placement could have been better. For the entire section, it's this:

SPOILER

You still have almost 3/4ths of the playfield to use. SO there was the potential to have less overlap and less confusion.
- 00:58:874 (7) - why the change in placement when comparing it to 00:56:161 (5,1) , 00:57:668 (9,1) - , 01:00:080 (7,1) - , 01:02:493 (9,1) -
00:57:970 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - i'm also curious why this is aligned vertically unlike the other patterns in this section

01:20:885 (5,6,7) - there really isn't a reason to have this placement except for looks. You don't really see the slider end until you are about to click the actual slider
01:25:106 (3,4,5,6) - here, the base rhythm is this:

SPOILER

but it's hitsounded to sound like (since the slider ends on 01:25:257 (4,5,6) - are set to soft):

SPOILER

yet it's mapped like this:

SPOILER

02:42:291 (2,3,4,5,6) - same as earlier, 01:20:885 (5,6,7)
02:42:744 (5) - ^

EX EX
Ehh, this feels like it's done purely for looks rather than

. Reminds me of TAG4 maps from back in the day.
What hints to that the most is how you used SV changes in this map.
- ex: 01:28:121 (1,2,1) - ; 01:37:770 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ; 02:58:573 (1,1,1,1,1) -
The SV were changed just to make a particle pattern rather than actually fitting the map.
Even though its new combo'd, how do you expect one to know how fast this slider is, how slow is this slider, whats the actual length of this slider? Those are things i feel that I shouldn't really be concerned with when playing a map. It shouldn't even matter if someone can or can't play the map.

Last edited by ouranhshc 2016-05-01T14:24:11+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

-Kanzaki

889 posts

Joined June 2012

-Kanzaki 2016-04-30T16:19:22+00:00

ouranhshc wrote:
EX EX
Ehh, this feels like it's done purely for looks rather than . Reminds me of TAG4 maps from back in the day.
What hints to that the most is how you used SV changes in this map.
- ex: 01:28:121 (1,2,1) - ; 01:37:770 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ; 02:58:573 (1,1,1,1,1) -
The SV were changed just to make a particle pattern rather than actually fitting the map.
Even though its new combo'd, how do you expect one to know how fast this slider is, how slow is this slider, whats the actual length of this slider? Those are things i feel that I shouldn't really be concerned with when playing a map. It shouldn't even matter if someone can or can't play the map.

Irreversible

osu! Alumni

4,315 posts

Joined December 2011

Irreversible 2016-04-30T19:03:54+00:00

Irrelvis

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Thanks for the feedback everyone, did most of the stuff myself though because I've let someone testplay and checked flowissues myself. I'll quickly respond to what I did not fix:

Pho
01:20:583 (3,3) - Try to swap these off with 1/2 sliders, there's so much momentum taken away too early at this point while the music is still intense. No, because I want to create ultimative tension here.

VIXS
02:02:342 (1,2,3,1) - this fukd me up hard cuz of the repeat ending on the snare cuz i misread and thot that for some reason the 2 is on the white tick and not on the sliderend and i did misread it like that a few times but idk this is proly not as much of a problem for most playrs : / sori n fix (but rearnged

Hollow Wings

1,514 posts

Joined July 2010

Topic Starter

Hollow Wings 2016-05-01T05:53:00+00:00

-Kanzaki wrote:
EX EX :

01:10:633 (1,2,3,4) - this is really hard to read with the 01:10:030 (1,1). And they also stacked with each other it makes 01:10:935 (3,4) - impossible to read and you had to memorize to play it actually but my point is you actually didn't do this much difficult on same other part 02:37:468 (1,2,3,4) - on here we can see every slider startings. I believe while these are same parts, same music but the reading difficulty difference between them is kind of huge for me.
lots of people mentioned this pattern, then i just explain this in detail: the only reason you think the previous one is more difficult to read is only because 01:10:935 (3,4) - 's ends are stacked together, which makes the composing not that easy to be seen clearly, and which is also still rankble to set objects like that without any consuming settings because tapping position are in different grid. and about the later part, for two group of kick sliders spread away, you can see slider track and approaching circle easily of course... i'm still surprised that there're so much players regard this as an unreadble pattern which just only can be blamed on their own reading skill, this is not unreadble pattern but only a pattern which stuffs' elements effect reading much a lot than common patterns. if that's the level of "unreadble" in some players mind, i can't tell what can it be which i made something more "unreadble" with more difficult reading trick, but still readble objectively without any doubt (even i can do that anytime).

the only true unreadble patterns are all banned by the rank rules, and i said that already in helix map, and i wanna say that again here:
1. overlapped/stacked arrow: this one's determination of combo is same as notes, slider's head and slider's tick, which you must aim that with key's tapping, but without any notice like approaching circle. if that can't be read immediately, that'll be technically unreadble.
2. (1) completely overlapping slider track: you can't figure out how much control point it has or what the reason is that object under another overlapping slider track, also same to the overlapped arrow, you got no noticing for what's gonna happen and objectively unreadble.
(2) over done self-overlapped slider track: you can do some self-overlapped track to one slider, like crossing the track to the part before or after, or just give a simple zig-zag trick, of course, with clean and smooth border of the track. if you over do that, like completely self-overlapped one slider's track, or stack the slider's end at the head, or give some unclear border track with overlapping, the slider's track's direction can't be judged immediately, and that's the pattern objectively unreadble.
3. offscreen objects: you can't hit the object correctly if you even can't see it in the screen.

that's how i think the rank rule is just marvelous, that it already listed all objective unreadble patterns even more than 6 years ago, and i can't find any other unreadble pattern in this game. MF noticed me some others, with really special situations depending on various things, thou generally, that's the whole "objectively unreadble stuff", not the level "i just can't read it".
now if anyone give some words "unreadble", consider it a bit more, thanks.

ouranhshc wrote:
Moecho's Another
02:29:628 (1,2,3,4) - just curious, is there a reason why this is snapped to 1/2 ticks when sliders and circles in the same section are snapped to the 1/3 ticks (and 1/6 if taking the repeating sliders that follow afterwards) this is an unsnapped issue i think, fixed. also fixed some unsnapped repeating sliders as well.

fanzhen's
02:19:679 (1,2,3) - ehh, kinda aesthetics but if you wanted it to match the other similar patterns in this part of the song. Could rotate this ~10 degrees around the selection center and then restacking (1) under the slider starts i think your idea is really good, changed.

As for the Extra and EX Ex diffs:
nice idea, poor execution. lol, thou i can't find another example.

For example on Extra:
00:55:558 - 01:04:000 - in this section, the placement could have been better. For the entire section, it's this:
SPOILER
You still have almost 3/4ths of the playfield to use. SO there was the potential to have less overlap and less confusion.
- 00:58:874 (7) - why the change in placement when comparing it to 00:56:161 (5,1) , 00:57:668 (9,1) - , 01:00:080 (7,1) - , 01:02:493 (9,1) -
00:57:970 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - i'm also curious why this is aligned vertically unlike the other patterns in this sectionwell, these are just placements of notes, with... some logic i just think that's stupid to you, because you focus more on the whole stuff's composing. anyway i'll arrange them a bit.

01:20:885 (5,6,7) - there really isn't a reason to have this placement except for looks. You don't really see the slider end until you are about to click the actual slider that's not true, you can see the slider at the time you can see its approaching circle.
01:25:106 (3,4,5,6) - here, the base rhythm is this:
SPOILER
but it's hitsounded to sound like (since the slider ends on 01:25:257 (4,5,6) - are set to soft):
SPOILER
yet it's mapped like this:
SPOILER
http://puu.sh/oB8o2/57ad2a202f.jpg
02:42:291 (2,3,4,5,6) - same as earlier, 01:20:885 (5,6,7)
02:42:744 (5) - ^ i... think... that's really really clear that i using kick sliders following the main electric melody here... so i still insist my rhythm style.

EX EX
Ehh, this feels like it's done purely for looks rather than . Reminds me of TAG4 maps from back in the day.
What hints to that the most is how you used SV changes in this map.
- ex: 01:28:121 (1,2,1) - ; 01:37:770 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ; 02:58:573 (1,1,1,1,1) -
The SV were changed just to make a particle pattern rather than actually fitting the map.
Even though its new combo'd, how do you expect one to know how fast this slider is, how slow is this slider, whats the actual length of this slider? Those are things i feel that I shouldn't really be concerned with when playing a map. It shouldn't even matter if someone can or can't play the map. yeah that's the exact point i use every sv with its own and only combo color to notice that, i've discussed to some players, staff and modders about this question, the way to solve that is what you've seen in this map. and if strictly saying, they are always readble and can be judged the sv by the approaching circle's density: you can read how the slider fast by reading the next object's approaching circle (even it's not appear, that means you meet a slow one, depending on the sv and bpm as well, in this map, you can at least knowing you are not meeting an extremely slow one). it of course related nothing to the player can play this map or not, we can discuss this thing with that condition, and the result is as above.

thanks for modding! (surprised to see ouranhshc come here :3

updated and waiting for another progress.

Karen

2,860 posts

Joined August 2013

Karen 2016-05-01T12:39:15+00:00

Seems this map has got enough feedback now so Rebubbled! Give it a try again!

- Frontier -

1,854 posts

Joined April 2014

- Frontier - 2016-05-01T15:12:25+00:00

Ranked !!

I hope it ranked soon.. D: Good luck !!

Natteke desu

2,487 posts

Joined August 2012

Natteke desu 2016-05-01T15:23:02+00:00

irre asked me to post this

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UndeadCapulet

1,100 posts

Joined April 2013

UndeadCapulet 2016-05-01T18:07:36+00:00

check tags in jjburst diff

Ciyus Miapah

3,011 posts

Joined June 2013

Ciyus Miapah 2016-05-02T00:08:02+00:00

GBLK LO SMUA!

ngmp yg waras aj, nukieu meni di omong-omong, ieu mah ngan gem sia teh anjing.
elititititititititititid tai

[-CeMAqpOP-]kee

760 posts

Joined April 2015

[-CeMAqpOP-]kee 2016-05-03T15:21:47+00:00

哈哈取消比赛资格了wtf？？？？

Last edited by [-CeMAqpOP-]kee 2016-05-05T18:07:29+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

A r M i N

1,298 posts

Joined October 2014

A r M i N 2016-05-04T23:57:25+00:00

I know that ur mapping style is quite fancy and different but isnt EX EX a bit too much really ?

D

7ambda

2,560 posts

Joined January 2015

7ambda 2016-05-05T05:09:42+00:00

A r M i N wrote:
I know that ur mapping style is quite fancy and different but isnt EX EX a bit too much really ? D

Next up, diagonal sliders.

AncuL

1,114 posts

Joined March 2013

AncuL 2016-05-05T11:15:26+00:00

Loctav wrote:
Sadly, you have to make an agreement with the community, not with the QAT. They won't judge your map anymore. So better put the effort to convince people raising concerns here that this creation is fine as it is or do not try to get it Ranked.

taken from shiirn's routing, but yeah idk

Lynoire

7 posts

Joined November 2014

Lynoire 2016-05-05T14:08:01+00:00

AncuL wrote:
Loctav wrote:
Sadly, you have to make an agreement with the community, not with the QAT. They won't judge your map anymore. So better put the effort to convince people raising concerns here that this creation is fine as it is or do not try to get it Ranked.
taken from shiirn's routing, but yeah idk

Well as far as it goes, HW is willing to rank it. I dont see any deal with that.
If you can rank a 19 secs map with totally rankable patterns, this is rankable by the rule set. Making the sliders follow a pattern, while rather tricky, is just something that a lot of people don't map, if at all, so there's a higher chance that people are uncorfortable with it.

-Atri-

3,047 posts

Joined March 2013

-Atri- 2016-05-06T13:42:59+00:00

i'll give this to HW just in case he wants to use it

Kyoko

27 posts

Joined October 2013

Kyoko 2016-05-07T20:14:05+00:00

Yuki's EX

Missing circle in 01:37:769?

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2016-05-07T22:26:44+00:00

[EX EX]

01:56:463 (5,6,7) - I think you might want to reconsider this pattern. There's nothing inherently wrong with it, but this pattern kinda gives players the idea they should play these sliders with a downward motion instead of a horizontal left/right motion, and this left/right slider motion is a central idea to this diff imo.

Just an idea, if you agree with my reasoning^

[Irrelvis' EX]

01:22:543 (2,5) - Stacks?
01:24:503 (1,2) - The kicksliders are rather unnecessary here. Like i can barely hear a note on 01:24:653 - let alone using a kickslider xP.
01:29:628 (2,3) - Not really getting this jump either. What is emphasized by this jump? :S
01:59:779 (2,3,4) - Idk. This pattern just looks kinda weird for me lol. How about arranging it so it's symmetrical?

~

[wykik's EX]

01:19:679 (1) - Ctrl+G'ing this creates really nice flow imo. Right now the flow from 1>2 doesn't look that nice visually.

[Yuki's EX]

01:16:061 (1,1,1,1,1) - The stacks got kinda messed up here, can you fix them? They seem quite important to this pattern.
01:38:674 (1,1) - ^

[JJBurst's Expert]

Inconsistent tags.

[Stella's Hyper]

01:51:035 (1) - Blanket
01:56:764 (6,1) - This jump + flowbreak was rather large for me... Wasn't expecting this. The note on 1 doesn't seem that emphasized imo.
02:00:985 (1) - Unnecessary NC imo
02:44:101 (1,2,1,2) - Can you space them out a bit more? I think its really easy to mistake them for 1/2 rhythm even tho its actually 3/4 here.

[liangv587's Medium]

02:35:055 (1,2,3) - These aren't perfectly straight, if you care xD.
02:52:241 (3,4) - Can you blanket these better?
02:54:653 (3,4) - ^
03:00:382 (5) - You could NC this if you want since its the final object.

[Enjoy's Standard]

02:26:010 (3,4) - Spacing is inconsistent here though its minor. Still worth fixing though

Okay that should be all, let me know when you're ready!

Hollow Wings

1,514 posts

Joined July 2010

Topic Starter

Hollow Wings 2016-05-08T03:59:51+00:00

UndeadCapulet wrote:
check tags in jjburst diff fixed.

to elvis: updated.

Kyoko wrote:
Yuki's EX

Missing circle in 01:37:769? cool, fixed.

Monstrata wrote:
[EX EX]

01:56:463 (5,6,7) - I think you might want to reconsider this pattern. There's nothing inherently wrong with it, but this pattern kinda gives players the idea they should play these sliders with a downward motion instead of a horizontal left/right motion, and this left/right slider motion is a central idea to this diff imo. i know what you mean, but i still decide to keep this pattern. maybe players can hardly know that i almost put all jumps in this map horizontal and vertical as well (except those special beat parts), and what's more, this is not a part that much more heated than the kiai part, so i think lower ds setting can fit this pattern better, with easier aiming here like straightly moving down with 1/4 sliders' heads in a line.
Just an idea, if you agree with my reasoning^

[Irrelvis' EX]

01:22:543 (2,5) - Stacks? even it's set on purpose, i think it can be stacked and changed.
01:24:503 (1,2) - The kicksliders are rather unnecessary here. Like i can barely hear a note on 01:24:653 - let alone using a kickslider xP. well, even it's not that clearly, it do has a shifting at melody's pitch of electric guitar's beats, so the kickslider is still fine to follow the music imo.
01:29:628 (2,3) - Not really getting this jump either. What is emphasized by this jump? :S i can agree with this, the jump is too large to follow any tracks' beats. changed the note 3's position to make an appropriate jump setting.
01:59:779 (2,3,4) - Idk. This pattern just looks kinda weird for me lol. How about arranging it so it's symmetrical? i think that angle of offset from the symm style position is set on purpose. aiming here after a long jump at 01:59:478 (1,2) - , and it may be weird to stack aming at 01:59:779 (2) - 's end and give a quarter turning which is one of the most difficult aiming pattern. give a little anti-jump at 01:59:779 (2,3) - may buffer that strike, it's a pattern which prefer flow and tapping sense, not the composing or structure side. so still keep this pattern.
~

[wykik's EX]

01:19:679 (1) - Ctrl+G'ing this creates really nice flow imo. Right now the flow from 1>2 doesn't look that nice visually. i can agree with you, but i think do ctrl+g to 01:19:980 (2) - is a better idea, for keeping the fluent flow at 01:19:377 (2,1) - after really large jumps and fast sliders, also offer emphasis jump at 01:19:980 (2,1) - to follow the guitar track's melody shifting beat.

[Yuki's EX]

01:16:061 (1,1,1,1,1) - The stacks got kinda messed up here, can you fix them? They seem quite important to this pattern. all fixed. thou i think that issue is caused by stack bug, which may occured when give some other options.
01:38:674 (1,1) - ^ ^

[JJBurst's Expert]

Inconsistent tags. fixed.

[Stella's Hyper]

01:51:035 (1) - Blanket fixed.
01:56:764 (6,1) - This jump + flowbreak was rather large for me... Wasn't expecting this. The note on 1 doesn't seem that emphasized imo. true, changed by reversing slider 6 directly, flow became fluent and jump's length is shorten.
02:00:985 (1) - Unnecessary NC imo true, fixed.
02:44:101 (1,2,1,2) - Can you space them out a bit more? I think its really easy to mistake them for 1/2 rhythm even tho its actually 3/4 here. for this is a hyper level diff, i think i can still agree with you, changed the ds a bit.

[liangv587's Medium]

02:35:055 (1,2,3) - These aren't perfectly straight, if you care xD. haha true, fixed.
02:52:241 (3,4) - Can you blanket these better? ok, thou they are just copy pasted sliders from previous two... anyway, changed.
02:54:653 (3,4) - ^ ^
03:00:382 (5) - You could NC this if you want since its the final object. ok, changed.

[Enjoy's Standard]

02:26:010 (3,4) - Spacing is inconsistent here though its minor. Still worth fixing though ofc, it can't be too careful to make sure noobs have no problem with lower diffs (surprised that you find this issue without aimod lol), fixed.

Okay that should be all, let me know when you're ready! you are really good modder in checking detail things, even in tricky diffs and noob diffs. that'll be a good news to mappers of all. and to me, some notions of mapping's technique are really similar to mine... that's awesome. O.o
and in all, great job!

thanks for modding!

Irreversible

osu! Alumni

4,315 posts

Joined December 2011

Irreversible 2016-05-08T16:53:31+00:00

irrelvis

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: TSUBAKI.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 44991
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.2
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 64000,84503,103799,123096,132744,142392,152040,161689,171337,176161
DistanceSpacing: 1.3
BeatDivisor: 3
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 3.8

[Metadata]
Title:TSUBAKI
TitleUnicode:TSUBAKI
Artist:Ocelot
ArtistUnicode:Ocelot
Creator:Hollow Wings
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Source:
Tags:Diverse System JAPAN Rin Ginsuke Function Phantom Enjoy CLSW ZZHBOY JJburstOwO Streliteela Minakami Yuki mtbbsben Rizia Kawaiwkyik liangv587 Irreversible EvilElvis -kevincela- fanzhen0019 examination Moecho smallboat
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thx for applying hw, everything was well done and justified.
I found some wrong hitsounds and one unsnap, so i decided to fix it

02:31:739 (3,1) - I am not sure about this snap, to be honest but i don't know a better one, maybe u wanna check it to avoid a dq.

ClrSCR

39 posts

Joined March 2015

ClrSCR 2016-05-08T19:34:56+00:00

ranked ?

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2016-05-08T21:28:19+00:00

Let me know when Irre's update has been applied~ I've rechecked the other diffs, everything else is ready to go!

Hollow Wings

1,514 posts

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Topic Starter

Hollow Wings 2016-05-08T22:50:12+00:00

Irreversible wrote:
thx for applying hw, everything was well done and justified.
I found some wrong hitsounds and one unsnap, so i decided to fix it

02:31:739 (3,1) - I am not sure about this snap, to be honest but i don't know a better one, maybe u wanna check it to avoid a dq. i'm sure the slider should not follow that random electric beats and changed that into a note snapping at 1/6 ticks commonly.

Monstrata wrote:
Let me know when Irre's update has been applied~ I've rechecked the other diffs, everything else is ready to go! ok now the map is fully ready.

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

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Monstrata 2016-05-09T01:21:02+00:00

Looks good to me now! Qualified!

Mismagius

9,237 posts

Joined July 2008

Mismagius 2016-05-09T01:40:33+00:00

here comes the "I hate HW mapping and I'll do everything to stop it" circlejerk trying to find reasons for this to get DQ'd

good luck! great map!

Anxient

1,568 posts

Joined June 2014

Anxient 2016-05-09T02:12:37+00:00

at least EX EX isnt ar 10 anymore :p

no complaints here. congratz hw!

Spaghetti

1,118 posts

Joined August 2014

Spaghetti 2016-05-09T02:18:56+00:00

I hate HW mapping and I'll do everything to stop it

Shiirn

2,896 posts

Joined August 2010

Shiirn 2016-05-09T02:20:17+00:00

Blue Dragon wrote:
I hate HW mapping and I'll do everything to stop it

how could you say such a thing?! quoted in case he deletes it to hide his opinion!

Haruto

1,815 posts

Joined December 2013

Haruto 2016-05-09T02:42:18+00:00

Congrats HW!

Stjpa

886 posts

Joined July 2013

Stjpa 2016-05-09T02:50:50+00:00

That insta qualify after the other Tsubaki got ranked lol.

Liiraye

1,354 posts

Joined December 2011

Liiraye 2016-05-09T03:02:52+00:00

Shiirn wrote:
Placeholder, will mod tomorrow

how could you say such a thing?! quoted in case he deletes it to hide his opinion!

Nathan

Beatmap Nominator

2,144 posts

Joined August 2014

Nathan 2016-05-09T03:11:13+00:00

grats!

Kathex

200 posts

Joined September 2014

Kathex 2016-05-09T03:52:07+00:00

Hello guys,
its a prank? Is realy happening?
as always i need to refute maps like this.

Apparently the BN circle have trouble to read ranking criteria.

[Ranking Criteria]
Rules:

All rules are exactly that: RULES. They are NOT guidelines and may NOT be broken under ANY circumstance.
A maximum of three slider velocities should be used (including 1x). For example, you could have a single map using 0.6x, 0.8x, and 1x; or 0.75x, 1x, and 1.5x; etc.
If more than three slider velocities are used, then they should make sense and be intuitive. If slider velocity changes are able to be merged (e.g. close values like 0.8x and 0.7x) while still flowing/working correctly, then they should be.
When including a slider velocity change, there should be a discernible change in the map's tempo. A spacing change, a short break in the map, or a slider containing at least one tick will help show the transition between them.
Make sure that you can pass each difficulty in your mapset. Continually test-playing your map is one of the best ways to spot mistakes and correct issues.

EX EX
Here some problems with slider speed
01:04:000 (1) - this slider speed transition broke one or more ranking criteria rules.
01:06:412 (1) - its not discernible plus same ^^
01:06:714 (1) - same ^^
01:07:618 (1) - same ^^
01:09:277 (1) - same ^^
01:11:236 (1) - same ^^
01:11:839 (1) - same ^^
01:12:442 (1) - same ^^
01:12:744 (1) - same ^^
01:16:061 (1) - same ^^
01:16:362 (1) - same ^^
01:17:267 (1) - same ^^
01:17:870 (1,2,1) - How a player will know the slider speed if they have the same size but different speeds?
I dont will cite more problems like these, but have more valid for the rest of the map.

By the way, its can be called a flow? Realy making sense use horrible flow like it in 2016?

Pls stop bn circle jerking. I hate how mappers like this get ranked shit and others realy good maps dont.

Help us PPY!!!

Nathan

Beatmap Nominator

2,144 posts

Joined August 2014

Nathan 2016-05-09T04:01:56+00:00

Kathex wrote:
All rules are exactly that: RULES. They are NOT guidelines and may NOT be broken under ANY circumstance.

are you actually serious lol

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,225 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2016-05-09T04:08:39+00:00

wew lad

good for ctb gz hw

Kathex

200 posts

Joined September 2014

Kathex 2016-05-09T04:10:47+00:00

Oh ofc we are talking about hollow wings, he is a special case.

Chaoslitz

Elite Mapper / Elite Storyboarder

2,307 posts

Joined November 2013

Chaoslitz 2016-05-09T04:12:30+00:00

Kathex wrote:
Apparently the BN circle have trouble to read ranking criteria

Seriously I hope it is just a prank...

I don't think it is good to call any maps being circlejerked if you wish maps you dislike to be disqualified right?

Anyway gratz HW.

Stjpa

886 posts

Joined July 2013

Stjpa 2016-05-09T04:13:37+00:00

Just for your information, a lot of points in the ranked criteria aren't valid anymore yet it's not changed there. Nowadays you can almost completely ignore it and rank a map because it's outdated as hell.

Yunomi

292 posts

Joined May 2014

Yunomi 2016-05-09T04:13:51+00:00

gratz on qualify. plz dont silence me again

Kathex

200 posts

Joined September 2014

Kathex 2016-05-09T04:14:50+00:00

Stjpa wrote:
Just for your information, a lot of points in the ranked criteria aren't valid anymore yet it's not changed there. Nowadays you can almost completely ignore it and rank a map because it's outdated as hell.

Hm interesting lets back to square maps then

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