Protastic101 wrote:

JBHyperion wrote:

Waiting for the lottery jackpot win that is finding a mania BN check

T.T Gl with that. Mania's dead until the new BNs come XD I pray to the Great Goddess Julie every day

Ayyy, here from my queue; the hitsounding is wonderful!
Also, you mapped all 4 game modes? Who are you, God?! XD Good job, from what I see, the diffs are all well made.
Not God, just a lonely man with too much time on his hands (^:

Column 1|2|3|4

I've never played the game this is from, so I can't put anything clever in the title

Comment: I really love calm songs like this that are mapped for enjoyment instead of PP, even if it means the highest diff is a fairly easy low to mid 2* They're my favorite ^.^ chill is best /o/
[General]So I'm going to nitpick your HP and OD values here, because they're a little bit insane XD
- OD for NM is probably too high for a map with more than half of it LNs. Reduce to ~7.2. The HP is also a little cruel for a NM diff, since there are no streamy sections that could be button mashed, so reduce to ~7?
- HP and OD for HD are a bit too high too, considering 1/4 of it are LNs. Reduce OD to ~7.5 at most, and HP to ~7.4 or so.
I did think HD especially was a bit unforgiving, thanks

[EZ]00:03:980 - Add a note in 1 for that woodwind sound similar to 00:01:871 (1871|3,2574|3,3277|0) Prefer to keep the start as simple as possible by avoiding 1/2 taps - I chose the guitar since it was much more prominent here than the woodwind
00:06:793 - ^^ in 1 (same pitch as the previous note) Again, if I was going to add density here it would be another guitar note at 00:06:558 (6558|0) but I'd like to keep the intro nice and calm
00:08:199 and 00:09:605 and 00:11:011 - ^^ In 2, and the next two notes if added should be in the same column as each other. This is just so you remain consistent in which sounds you map and how you map them in order to give the map an easy to follow structure for beginners, since higher difficulties will tend to build upon that basic structure. Added 00:08:199 (8199|1) since the woodwind is most noticeable here and I wasn't consistent with the alternating guitar/woodwind pattern. Also swapped out the LN for two notes at 00:10:308 (10308|1,11011|1)
00:15:933 (15933|0,15933|2,17340|0,17340|1,18277|1,18746|1,18746|0,19683|2) - This is a bold suggestion here, but control H and then shift one column to the left. This is to loosely follow pitch relevancy as 00:15:933 (15933|0,17340|0) is a higher pitch than 00:18:746 (18746|1) Gave this a good old jiggle around, hopefully it follows better now (plus I got to put more stuff on the right for balance aaa)
00:34:918 and 00:37:730 and 00:40:543 and etc. - Same stuff I said about adding a note in the same column as the previous note (same pitch, so pitch relevancy) Didn't add the 1/2 notes for consistency with previous non-changes, but did make some more pitch consistency with 00:35:621 (35621|3,36324|3) and following

[NM]00:02:808 - Add a note here to complete the guitar chord? It feels strange to only map part of it and leave out one note. Realised I already did this at 00:07:496 (7496|2,8433|1) - not sure why the lack of consistency... extended 00:01:871 (1871|0) and added a note in |2|
00:05:621 - ^^ Same, but added in |1|
00:06:558 (6558|2) - Is this to represent the guitar's grace note? If so, I'd consider adding one at 00:00:933 for consistency. Sure, extended 00:00:933 (933|2) to 1/1
00:27:418 (27418|2,27886|3) - So, from what I can tell, you're mapping to drums and flute, but not guitar, so remove these if that's the case, since you shouldn't really map the guitar in the middle of this section of music if you hadn't mapped it previously. Guitar is mapped primarily by the LNs here, though there are some instances of guitar single notes such as 00:21:090 (21090|0) - Whilst I agree there are some guitar sounds I didn't map, I'd like to keep this as a little "building up" pattern to conclude the main melody. Keeping for now, but will change if others suggest the same
00:38:668 and 00:35:855 - Add notes here for the guitar since you seem to start mapping to them again. Done and moved 00:38:902 (38902|3) to |4| to reduce pressure
00:41:480 - ^^ Added in |1|

[HD]There's no really that much to mod here, but there's just one thing I want to point out, with a few examples. I don't really understand your LN usage. Sometimes, you use an LN to represent the guitar chord like at 00:01:871 (1871|0,4683|1) but you never hold it out for as long as it lasts. For example 00:04:683 (4683|1) is held out until 00:06:090 but it only lasts for 3 beats. Lengthening it to end at 00:05:972 is acceptable because it gives ample time to release the LN and then press the same key again for the next note above (I won't ask that you move it since it's following pitch relevancy from what I can hear).

Aaaah the travails of only having 4 columns to work with! Was probably trying to play safe with giving a whole beat of rest between press an release each time. I played around with some LN lengths to find a good compromise between accurately mapping the song and still being comfortable to play. I had to change one or two columns around to extend everything to downbeats, but it should be very minor

Another thing I don't get are the split LNs like 00:39:840 (39840|0,40308|2) where there's just one chord that encompasses the two LNs. I can understand that 00:40:308 (40308|2) is for the grace note, but this is a hard difficulty, so why not just add it in at 00:40:425 instead of using an LN?

Whilst it is a hard, it's also a somewhat "easy" hard relative to a similarly "easy" normal. I felt like if I was gonna use gracing it had to be quite simple and isolated to avoid the difficulty gap being too excessive. Since there are already graces in this part, I tried to simplify these patterns a bit to avoid it being too tricky. I'm not sure it's the best way of doing what I wanted to achieve, but I'll stick with it for now.

Ok, and final thing is the flute. You use LNs like 00:11:715 (11715|0,12183|1,12652|2,13121|3) to represent the sustained sound since it's very legato, but then you stop using them at 00:13:824 (13824|3,14058|2,14293|1) which breaks the flow you've set up in this section. My suggestion is turning the notes I highlighted into LNs, and adding a note at 00:14:058 for the snare. Of course, all of these suggestions I just made apply to similar areas in the map.

It's another way of looking at it sure, though I personally find those kind of short LNs super annoying to hit properly which is why I didn't use them xD Regarding the flow and consistency, I feel it's actually okay since I am continually alternating between 1/1 LNs and 1/2 single notes in the first and second half of each measure respectively.

If anything I said confuses you, just say so in the mod response and I'll take another look at it. Have a great day, and be sure to enjoy your summer to the fullest~! Oh I'll try, to you likewise! xD

- Ly0572 - wrote:

hi mania mod here
req from our queue
its late coz im lazy sorry bout that~

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EZ

00:08:199 (8199|1) - idk why is this here~ move it here 00:08:433 - Shortened 00:07:496 (7496|3) - instead for consistency with 00:04:683 (4683|0) -
00:14:058 (14058|0) - missing note? for the clap? I would prefer not to have double press + release in this diff to avoid a difficulty spike
00:13:590 - add for clap~ same with the parts like this Prefer to only follow the main sounds, which would be held flute and the initial kick drum sound, same reasons as above
its very confusing for mania players..dunno which sound to follow but up to u~ u can reject it Primarily following held sounds with LN and simple drum rhythm for single notes. I don't see it as particularly confusing, but what do I know? (:

NM

00:12:183 (12183|2,12652|3,13121|2) - switch col Nice, gives 00:13:121 (13121|3) - pitch priority
00:16:402 (16402|2,16871|2) - if this is not intended pls move this 00:16:871 (16871|2) - to 00:16:871 (16871|2) - |1| 00:16:402 (16402|2,16871|2) - belong in the same column for mapping an identical drum sound, so I moved 00:16:871 (16871|2) - to |3|, keeping the previous note in |2| for the lower guitar sound
00:17:340 (17340|0,17808|1) - switch col Pitch increases across 00:17:340 (17340|0,17808|1,18277|3) - as notes move to the right
00:18:746 (18746|2) - change to SN then add here 00:19:215 - |4| Done, fits nicely for raised guitar pitch
00:21:558 (21558|0) - change to SN also,, sound is not that loud then add note here 00:22:027 - Played around with this quite a bit to fix pitch relevancy as best I could
00:24:371 (24371|2) - change to SN then add here 00:24:840 - |2| I think I switched to guitar for LNs here for some weird reason so this was really weird, redone
00:29:058 (29058|3,29527|2) - switch col Flute pitch is decreasing here
00:29:996 (29996|2) - u know what to do same as 00:24:371 (24371|2) - ayy
00:35:152 (35152|0,35621|3) - ctrl+h Flute pitch on 00:35:621 (35621|3) - is much higher
00:46:871 (46871|2) - again :3 same as 00:24:371 (24371|2) -
00:52:496 (52496|2) - ^
00:55:308 (55308|0) - same as 00:21:558 (21558|0) -
00:58:121 (58121|2) - same as 00:24:371 (24371|2) -
01:03:746 (63746|2) - ^ Fixed all of these ^ as before
01:29:058 (89058|1,89058|0) - delete one of them Removed |0| for contrast with 01:30:465 (90465|0) -

HD

00:03:980 (3980|1,4215|3) - switch col~ Guitar is higher pitch on 00:04:215 (4215|3) -
00:16:168 (16168|2,16402|1) - ^ Pitch is decreasing on 00:15:933 (15933|3,16168|2,16402|1) -
00:39:371 - u put doubles here but not in here 00:38:902 - ? Added 00:38:902 (38902|1) -
00:50:176 - add
00:55:777 - ^ Done for both for drum consistency
01:04:449 (64449|1,64918|3) - switch col As before
01:09:840 - add
01:10:308 - ^ I prefer a simpler rhythm focusing only on the guitar here, to give the upcoming kiai more emphasis
01:35:152 - ^
01:35:621 - ^ Done for both ^
01:37:965 - ^ Skipping here to give 01:38:433 (98433|0,98433|2,98668|0,98668|2) - more emphasis
01:40:777 - ^
01:41:246 - ^ Done for both ^
its fine to doubles i think~ coz it a HD diff

thats all GL

Protastic101 wrote:

Here we go

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General

1. Wouldn't the preview point be better at 00:34:215 - on a white tick rather than a blue tick? Normally I do this to not cut in halfway through the strong sound, but in this instance it does sound better on the white tick so changed for all diffs

Hitsounds

[EZ]00:07:496 (7496|1,8199|1) - Why isn't there a Finish like 00:04:683 (4683|1,5386|1) - ?
00:11:011 (11011|1) - ^^
00:17:340 (17340|0) - Double HS, replace with a whistle maybe?
00:59:527 (59527|3) - Remove clap
01:43:121 (103121|3) - Double Hs, remove a whistle
Fixed all, not sure why those first jingles were missing... And I din't realise double hitsounds were frowned upon, so apologies for that

[NM]00:21:090 (21090|0) - Add clap
00:31:871 (31871|0,32340|2) - Add claps
01:14:996 (74996|3) - Double HS, remove the whistle
01:16:871 (76871|2) - add clap
01:24:840 (84840|0) - Add whistle
01:30:465 (90465|1) - add whistle?
Fixed all, and also removed an extra whistle form 01:00:933 (60933|1) -

[HD]00:01:871 (1871|3) - Double HS, remove one finish
00:04:918 (4918|1) - Unnecessary finish? Remove.
00:07:496 (7496|2,7496|3) - Make this consistent with the other diffs. Remove the finish and add a W to one note only. Changed this to a finish throughout instead for the synth-type sound
00:08:902 (8902|3) - double HS, remove one
00:15:933 (15933|3) - Add W
00:16:871 (16871|2,17105|2) - Double HS, remove one
00:22:496 (22496|2,22730|2) - ^^
00:23:902 (23902|0) - ^^
00:28:121 (28121|3,28355|3) - ^^
00:34:683 (34683|3,35152|3) - ^^
00:37:496 (37496|2,37965|3) - ^^ Not sure if you know, but adding HS on both notes just doubles the vol of the hitsound which can sound a bit off when you have a section using normal vol hs, then a double HS comes in much louder.
00:38:902 (38902|0,39371|0) - ^^
00:41:715 (41715|3,42183|3) - ^^
00:43:121 (43121|2) - ^^
00:44:058 (44058|3) - Add Finish like you did in NM and EZ.
00:47:340 (47340|3,47808|3) - Double HS, remove C from here
00:50:152 (50152|1,50621|1,50855|1) - ^^
00:52:965 (52965|3,53433|3) - ^^
00:54:840 (54840|2,55777|2,56246|2,56480|2,58590|1,59058|1,61871|3,62105|3,64683|2,68902|1,71246|2,71715|2,74058|1,74527|1,76871|2,77340|2,78277|1,78746|1,79683|2,80152|2,81090|3,81558|3,82496|2,82965|2,83902|2,84371|2,85308|2,85777|2,86715|1,87183|1,88121|2,88590|2,89527|3,89996|3,90933|1,91402|1,92340|2,92808|2,93746|1,94215|2,95152|1,95621|1,96558|1,97027|1,98433|0,98668|0,99371|1,99840|1,100777|0) - These are all the other instances of double HS, so just remove the clap from it once and it should get rid of all notes with double HS.
01:01:402 (61402|0) - Missing clap.
01:09:371 (69371|2) - Add finish here like the other diffs. Changed these all to whistle instead
01:10:777 (70777|3) - Add W
01:43:121 (103121|3) - add W
Fixed everything else as suggested. Again, sorry for not knowing about the double hitsound thing, I guess it just seemed like a good idea since they're representing the same sound? You learn something new every day!

Diffs

[EZ]00:13:590 - Why not add a note here for the snare? You added one at 00:12:652 (12652|2) - so I think it'd make sense to have one here too. I was originally only following flute and not drums to make the layering simple. Perhaps too simple? Added here and throughout except for 00:32:340 and 01:06:090 - to provide a short break before the next section, and in the kiai where I want to focus on the long sounds to provide variety that emphasises this section
00:16:402 - 00:16:871 - same here, the sounds are pretty easy to hear, so the player would probably be expecting notes here. ^
00:28:590 (28590|2,28590|0) - For consistency, shouldn't one of these notes be a 1/1 LN like 00:25:777 (25777|2,25777|1) - ? Was trying to represent the constant pitch change here, but it does play kinda weirdly with the inconsistency. Changed
00:44:761 (44761|0) - Consider moving this to 4 as I think it's easier to tap when you're not already pressing down a key (so left hand holds, right hand taps) Good point, switched
01:19:215 (79215|3) - Assuming you're following the guitar, shouldn't the LN end at 01:19:683 - and a short note be added there instead? Maybe something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6642962 Nice idea, done
01:28:590 - 01:29:527 - I think it'd be good to finish the LNs with a note at the end for the guitar or something similar to what you did at 01:26:246 (86246|3,86246|1,87183|2) - for example. Added for first, extended LN and moved note for second
01:43:121 (103121|3,103121|2,103121|0) - I'm normally pretty against using triples, cause I can still remember when I was starting out and triples were the death of me. I think a [14] double works fine to end off this song, so remove 01:43:121 (103121|2) - ? (Don't forget to move the HS to another note) Fair enough, pointed noted and note removed

[NM]00:08:902 (8902|1,9371|2) - Why aren't these made as short notes, cause they're similar sounds like 00:03:277 (3277|0,3746|1) - ? Was trying to get a nice buildup effect and bring some variety in, but if it's unfitting I'll stay consistent
00:13:121 (13121|3,14527|1,14996|0,15465|2) - Seeing as you're mapping a lot of the guitar/snares such as 00:17:340 (17340|0,17808|1,18277|3,19449|1,19683|2,19918|3) - using single notes, it would be a better idea to remain consistent and map 00:13:121 (13121|3,14527|1,14996|0,15465|2) - as single notes too. I wanted to keep 00:14:527 (14527|1,14996|0,15465|2) - as LNs for the held flute sounds but I now see that I didn't do it later on so it makes no sense to do it here. Changed all
00:31:402 (31402|3) - I can't really tell why this is an LN jump when similar places like 00:25:777 (25777|0,25777|2) - is a single LN with a note. So my suggestion is to reduce 00:31:402 (31402|3) - to a short note and move it to 2 to avoid a minijack with 00:31:168 (31168|3) - Yeah this 1/2 jack was lame, fixed and made consistent
00:48:277 (48277|2,48746|0,49215|2) - Similar to what I said about LN vs. short notes, these would be better as single notes since you mapped the flute at 00:45:465 (45465|0,45933|2,46402|3) - using single notes, and it's the same rhythm in both places.Made these parts consistent with the first section
01:05:152 (65152|3,65621|1) - I would consider a control J here (don't forget to move the hitsounds with it) to avoid a minijack with 01:04:918 (64918|3,65152|3) - since they're not the same sound or pitch like at 01:01:871 (61871|2,62105|2) - for example.
01:27:652 - Right here, I'd consider mapping to the guitar similar to 01:26:246 (86246|3,86480|2,86715|1,86949|2) - because it's still in the same musical phrase, so nothing in the music indicates a change in mapping style. Maybe try this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6646636 I removed some notes to try and emphasise the ending, i.e. each note is more "important" when there are fewer, but after testing it out I do prefer to keep mapping the guitar. Instead however I kept 01:27:886 (87886|0,88121|1,88355|0) - in |0,1| and only put 01:28:590 (88590|2) - for better contrast on that high pitched flute sound
01:29:058 - Same as the above. Since you've been following the guitar during this part, the player will expect to still be following the guitar until the change in musical phase at 01:30:465 - ^
01:41:715 (101715|1,102183|0) - I'd consider control J here so that the player is holding down 4 and just does a simple [1]-[2]-[3] roll up the columns. If this is for pitch relevancy though, then that's ok. Indeed, I was following pitch here, though I can see how both options work. Will try to stick with this for now

[HD]00:06:090 (6090|0,6090|3) - Shouldn't one of these notes be on the 1/8 right before 00:06:090 - to act as a grace note? Yeah, fixed this right away before I saw your suggestion lol
00:28:590 (28590|1) - I'd consider removing a note here since you've been using doubles to represent this loose snare kind of sound, for example like at 00:25:777 (25777|1,25777|2) - or 00:20:152 (20152|1,20152|2) - . I would really save the triples for the crashes that signify the start or end of a section in the music, like 00:32:808 (32808|0,32808|3,32808|2) - or 00:45:465 (45465|3,45465|0,45465|1) - . Either way though, I don't really mind if you use triples or doubles, but I'd ask that you use it consistently so if you keep the triples, make those other spots I mentioned triples. This is a triple to signify the end of the measure, in the same fashion as 00:17:340 (17340|2,17340|0,17340|3) - 00:22:965 (22965|3,22965|0,22965|1) - and 00:32:808 (32808|2,32808|0,32808|3) - which is a special case since I choose to use the long LN 00:34:215 (34215|1) - to end this particular one. It has the loud booming drum sound to help emphasise this
00:17:340 (17340|2,17340|3,17340|0) - Similar to the above ^
00:22:965 (22965|1,22965|3,22965|0) - Similar to the above.^ didn't see you pointed these out until after I made the above response but yes, the booming drum once per measure is a feature used throughout the set on the other modes also and I feel it follows and plays nicely so I'd like to keep it
00:31:402 (31402|2,31871|1) - I'd consider control H here since it'd be easier to hit a [12] LN double, then single tap with the right hand which is holding no note down, rather than just to single tap while holding a note down in [1] Good point, changed
00:49:918 (49918|2) - Move this to 2, as 00:49:683 (49683|3,49918|2,50152|2,50386|3,50621|2,50855|2) - is already very right hand heavy. Feels a little strange to play for me, maybe because I expect the glide down with pitch, but probably just me being weird. Gave it a try
01:04:215 - This is my personal opinion only, but I think the notes would look nicer and be a bit easier to play if it were arranged kind of like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6646697 Idk how to explain why, but I just like the 4 notes at 01:05:152 (65152|2,65152|3,65621|1,66090|2) - since it looks like a big brother LN with a little LN holding two notes. That sounds dumb lol Haha I love it! I changed up some parts just before this a little because PR was bothering me, but thankfully I was still able to accommodate this to provide a nice hand balance after the previous notes
01:30:465 (90465|2) - I think it's best to just make this a short note because you haven't used any 1/2 LNs in this diff at all, so it would come as a surprise to a lot of players (including me lol). I think I had more at one point, but they're truly a relic from a forgotten age at this point haha. Swapped them both for notes
01:31:871 (91871|1) - Same goes for this LN too. ^

Protastic101 wrote:

Alright, just a few more hitsound things and I'll bubble

[Quick note on hitsounding in mania first]
It's not that double hitsounds are frowned upon, but if you do want to use two hitsounds at the same place, you'd have to halve their volume (if hitsounding two notes, or divide the vol by 3/4/5, etc) so that they both add up to whatever hitsound vol you originally wanted. For example, say you have a sample called clap.wav that you use by importing from the sample import menu (control + shift + I, brings you to this http://puu.sh/sCz8a.jpg ). If you want a volume of 50% and only hitsounded one note, you'd just import it onto the note at 50% like so https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6714955 This means the hitnormal plays with the clap since there's an unhitsounded note in the chord pair.

But if you want to avoid having the hitnormal play in the chord, you hitsound both notes, or all the notes in the chord (I believe that unlike the other gamemodes, putting hitsounds on a note makes it so that the hitnormal doesn't play, and only the hitsound you added to the note, not too sure though since I only play a little CtB and just happen to notice that the hitnormal always plays with the hitsound), so like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6714969 . The difference here is that I have 2 notes at the same time, so I divided 50 by 2 and applied each hitsound only at 25% this time since the hitsound volume is additive (two hitsounded notes at 25% = 50% total vol).

Basically, the reason why I pointed out all your double hitsounds was because you were just using the editor claps, whistles, and finishes to hitsound (which is fine), which meant that the single notes you hitsounded would have hitsound vol of 30% - 45% whenever it was played, but the double HS would play at 60% - 90% which would be inconsistent and sound much louder than what the player would expect. Hope that made sense orz.

Takes notes.

[EZ]00:38:433 (38433|2,39136|2) - Shouldn't these be finishes? Yap, made soft finish on each

[NM]00:07:496 (7496|2,7496|3) - Double hitsound I believe? I'm dumb
00:22:027 (22027|1) - missing clap
00:24:840 (24840|2) - ^
00:30:465 (30465|2) - ^ ^ Added all
00:49:683 (49683|1,49683|0) - double hs, remove one I'm still dumb
00:52:965 (52965|3) - missing clap
00:55:777 (55777|0) - ^
00:58:590 (58590|2,64215|2,71246|0) - ^ ^ Added all

[HD]00:27:652 (27652|0) - missing clap Got 'im
00:34:215 (34215|2) - I think you also need a normal whistle here since the one at 00:34:215 (34215|1) - is the soft sampleset one Oops my bad, left it on the LN instead of the note. Fixed
00:49:683 (49683|3) - add whistle? Done
00:52:027 (52027|2) - Double hitsound, remove the clap here My brain does not exist
01:20:621 (80621|1) - Remove this clap? I don't think you normally put whistles with claps in this diff, so it's a bit inconsistent. Yeah, stuck to whistle


[EZ]00:32:340 - Quick thing right here, feels a bit off to not have a note here since the general structure here is to have a note every 1/1 beat. I'd consider adding a note in 1 and moving 00:31:871 (31871|0) - to 2 instead I was trying to give 00:32:808 (32808|3) - with the strong drum hit more emphasis due to the pause. Since we don't have to click in ctb this feels a lot more natural, but when you're skipping on a tapping rhythm I guess it's kinda weird. Added
00:33:277 (33277|2,33746|1) - I think it'd be nice to make these 1/1 LNs since it's for the flute/guitar here. Helps to differentiate the sounds from the snares in the music. Sure
01:14:996 (74996|3,74996|2) - I think it'd be better to switch their columns here so the short note 01:14:527 (74527|3) - is jacked (in the same column as each other) with the long note 01:14:996 (74996|2) - to follow pitch relevancy I'm with ya

[NM]gud stuff fam wew

[HD]01:15:465 (75465|1,75933|0) - I'd try this to try and fit in a note or two for the guitar since it's pretty easy to hear, so the player might expect you to map it as a result https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6718411 I removed the LN and went with three notes instead, since it was the best way imo to map 01:15:933 (75933|0) - in |0| for PR without changing up everything before it and making an ungodly mess

Alright, that should be the last few things. Very nice and relaxing chart, I like it (=w=)b

Protastic101 wrote:

tried to find you in game but rip

[Normal]00:47:340 (47340|2,64215|2,71246|0) - Add claps and it's good to go I swear orz

1. 00:34:215 - 01:33:277 - Not sure why these parts are hitsounded inconsistently between the difficulties, not sure if this is intended so I'm gonna mention it just in case.
2. 01:07:027 - 01:07:496 - Same as above as well.

1. 00:32:340 (2) - Should be consistent with 01:06:090 I guess, would be nice if you map both of them or not at all.
2. 00:37:027 (1,2) - DS can be tweaked a little.
3. 01:14:527 - Add clap?

1. 00:32:340 - 01:06:090 - Should be clap instead.
2. 01:06:558 - Add finish?
3. 01:29:058 (3,4) - Missing hitsounds on these.

1. 00:49:683 - Whistle instead of clap?
2. 01:10:308 - Add clap?
3. 01:22:965 - Clap instead of whistle?
4. 01:31:871 - Add whistle?
5. 01:38:902 - Whistle instead of finish?

1. 00:10:308 (3) - Since the guitar and that other sound(I did some research to find out the instrument but I got no results ahhh) are the only sound that are really present in this section, and all other sliders like this one ended on the red tick(in this case 00:11:011 - here), it would be better to have this slider end on the red tick. Consistent polarities are better than mixed up usage of both polarities and non-polarities, as beginners expect same rhythm to be followed at least in the same section.
2. 00:44:058 (3) - Like above, as you instead emphasized on the similar stronger sounds, this shouldn't be left out. Again, having a consistent rhythm which follows a specific instrument strength is more beneficial for beginners.
3. 01:06:090 - Feels weird to leave this out when the similar sound at 00:32:340 (2) - was emphasized but not this one. You should really add a circle here as it does come out from nowhere.
4. 01:11:715 (2) - Missing clap, same on 01:14:527 (2) - .
5. 01:41:715 (1) - With the first 2 point being said, I think the spinner ending at 01:43:824 - would sound much more better as it follows the prominent sounds like the previous sliders in this section.
6. Just the emphasis that I think it could use some improvement but otherwise the difficulty's cool.

1. 00:44:058 (3,1) - It would have been fine if this kind of pattern were used at the same rhythmic gaps, but having different rhythmic gaps for this could somewhat be confusing and out of the blue as they might have not expected this kind of movement for this sound. Heck, even 00:10:308 (3,1) - this uses a 'normal' movement so you should be using the same kind of movement here.
2. 01:07:027 (4) - Don't really think there should be a clap on the head cause there's no snare here lol
3. 01:08:433 (2,3) - But on the other hand you are missing out on the claps here
4. 01:17:340 (2) - Aaaaand yea this too
5. 01:41:715 (1) - If you applied the spinner suggestion in easy you should be doing it here too
6. Other than that the difficulty's solid, I like this normal

1. 00:01:871 (4) - All the other similar notes after this has pretty much the same pitch so it's a shame for this note to be having a lower distance than them :/ Maybe increase the distance here to 1.6x for consistent emphasis?
2. 00:44:058 (4) - Finish on this note's head sounds way too damp, and there are no real 'damp' instruments in the song here so I feel the soft finish would work better here. You did this in normal as well, and it sounds much better there lol
3. 01:00:933 (3,4) - While the other parallel sliders are good enough, these 2 seems a little bit too close to each other. Being way too close to each other creates unwanted slider leniency(thus making movement leniency) which might not result in the movement you want the players to make. Maybe space them out a little bit more so that their visual distance is somewhat close to 00:15:933 (3,4) - . But then idk my eyes could be deceiving me so maybe they are having the same visual distance
4. 01:41:715 (1) - If you applied the spinner thingi in the other diffs you should do it here too
5. Nice difficulty other than that.

Electoz wrote:

JBH asked for some opinions on std diffs so

[General]

1. 00:34:215 - 01:33:277 - Not sure why these parts are hitsounded inconsistently between the difficulties, not sure if this is intended so I'm gonna mention it just in case. Fixed first to all whistle, second are all finish already though
2. 01:07:027 - 01:07:496 - Same as above as well. Changed 01:07:496 to soft whistle in all

[Easy]

1. 00:32:340 (2) - Should be consistent with 01:06:090 I guess, would be nice if you map both of them or not at all. Second one has the pause to add tension before the kiai, and the repeat slider is separated because pitch increase here rather than decreases
2. 00:37:027 (1,2) - DS can be tweaked a little. Fixed and made this triangle pattern neater
3. 01:14:527 - Add clap? Fixed

[Normal]

1. 00:32:340 - 01:06:090 - Should be clap instead. Yup
2. 01:06:558 - Add finish? Added
3. 01:29:058 (3,4) - Missing hitsounds on these. Man I was shit at hitsounding a year ago :/

[Hard]

1. 00:49:683 - Whistle instead of clap?
2. 01:10:308 - Add clap?
3. 01:22:965 - Clap instead of whistle?
4. 01:31:871 - Add whistle?
5. 01:38:902 - Whistle instead of finish?
   Fixed all aaa

Standard difficulties are good to go. But wait there's more!

Sc4v4ng3r wrote:

I'm back 14 months later welcome back xd
Here are some opinions on the standard diffs cause JBH needed those

[Easy]

1. 00:10:308 (3) - Since the guitar and that other sound(I did some research to find out the instrument but I got no results ahhh) are the only sound that are really present in this section, and all other sliders like this one ended on the red tick(in this case 00:11:011 - here), it would be better to have this slider end on the red tick. Consistent polarities are better than mixed up usage of both polarities and non-polarities, as beginners expect same rhythm to be followed at least in the same section. The 3/2 sound is really faint here, but then again the 2/1 is also. I guess for consistnecy you're right, this is the best option
2. 00:44:058 (3) - Like above, as you instead emphasized on the similar stronger sounds, this shouldn't be left out. Again, having a consistent rhythm which follows a specific instrument strength is more beneficial for beginners. Much easier here, the synth is prominent
3. 01:06:090 - Feels weird to leave this out when the similar sound at 00:32:340 (2) - was emphasized but not this one. You should really add a circle here as it does come out from nowhere. I disagree, the pause here serves to emphasise the start of the kiai and provide the player a break beforehand. A 2/1 spacing should be readable at this AR no problem
4. 01:11:715 (2) - Missing clap, same on 01:14:527 (2) - . Fixed
5. 01:41:715 (1) - With the first 2 point being said, I think the spinner ending at 01:43:824 - would sound much more better as it follows the prominent sounds like the previous sliders in this section. Sure, changed in all std/taiko/ctb diffs to the red tick
6. Just the emphasis that I think it could use some improvement but otherwise the difficulty's cool.

[Normal]

1. 00:44:058 (3,1) - It would have been fine if this kind of pattern were used at the same rhythmic gaps, but having different rhythmic gaps for this could somewhat be confusing and out of the blue as they might have not expected this kind of movement for this sound. Heck, even 00:10:308 (3,1) - this uses a 'normal' movement so you should be using the same kind of movement here. I don't see the difference, both are a 3/2 spacing with 1.2x DS, the only difference here is a direction change. I don't see this causing a problem since it still uses a smooth circular flow
2. 01:07:027 (4) - Don't really think there should be a clap on the head cause there's no snare here lol Correct, removed
3. 01:08:433 (2,3) - But on the other hand you are missing out on the claps here Ripppp
4. 01:17:340 (2) - Aaaaand yea this too How did I ever get decent at hitsounding this is embarassing
5. 01:41:715 (1) - If you applied the spinner suggestion in easy you should be doing it here too Yeye fixed throughout already lol
6. Other than that the difficulty's solid, I like this normal

[Hard]

1. 00:01:871 (4) - All the other similar notes after this has pretty much the same pitch so it's a shame for this note to be having a lower distance than them :/ Maybe increase the distance here to 1.6x for consistent emphasis? Sure, moved 00:00:465 (1,2,3) - right a little to make room, did the same at 00:35:152 (3,4) - 01:37:027 (3,4) - also
2. 00:44:058 (4) - Finish on this note's head sounds way too damp, and there are no real 'damp' instruments in the song here so I feel the soft finish would work better here. You did this in normal as well, and it sounds much better there lol Correct, unintentional so fixed to soft
3. 01:00:933 (3,4) - While the other parallel sliders are good enough, these 2 seems a little bit too close to each other. Being way too close to each other creates unwanted slider leniency(thus making movement leniency) which might not result in the movement you want the players to make. Maybe space them out a little bit more so that their visual distance is somewhat close to 00:15:933 (3,4) - . But then idk my eyes could be deceiving me so maybe they are having the same visual distance They are the same DS as 00:26:715 (2,3,4) - but more slanted so appear closer together I guess. Since this is building up to the kiai I'll increase the distance a little to make this more comfortable
4. 01:41:715 (1) - If you applied the spinner thingi in the other diffs you should do it here too Yup again lol
5. Nice difficulty other than that.

Yea standard difficulty still looks cool but those could be certainly improved. So basically what you're saying is get more mods? Whilst I admit I haven't looked at this set in a while I feel it's of pretty good quality. Mods will produce diminishing returns at this point :/

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Going to use my magical all mode modding powers to push this into qualified.

(Please note that my mods for modes other than ctb may not be the greatest xd)

[Easy]

00:32:808 (3,1) - Movement into 1 feels a bit odd to me right now, because of the direction change. Maybe change the flow so that the movement stays in the same direction (So the slider is higher up and the curve at the beginning is the other way, idk how to explain in standard terms). I touched up some DS/blankets so it's a bit neater, but I want to keep current position for symmetry with 00:31:402 (1) - I don't feel it really impacts the flow negatively considering the sliders are only slightly curved here

- also fixed 00:38:433 (2) - to a 3/2 slider for consistency with others in this section as well as a couple of other blankets

[Normal]

01:02:808 (2) - Whilst it doesn't exactly go off screen, I dislike how close this is to going off screen. There's probably nothing wrong with it, I just want to point it out just in case. Fine with default skin but might overlap some custom score counters so tried to move this combo down and left slightly to avoid this

[Hard]

00:06:558 (2) - A 1/2 slider might work nicely here for the guitar sound. This'd also be consistent with later sections. Done
01:24:840 (1) - Have the curve going to the left instead, for constant flow here? That feels a lot more natural to me. Done, forcing symmetry looked ugly as heck here lol

- also split 01:26:949 (2) - into two circles to make the strong flute sound clickable like the others in this section

[Kantan]

00:32:808 (23) - Maybe make it a K instead, for bigger emphasis on this note as the end of the section? Would prefer not to have two big notes this close together, and 00:34:215 (1) - is more worthy of D than 00:32:808 (23) - is ok K imo
01:20:621 (12) - Just a d sounds better here to me, to better emphasise pitch increase to 13. 01:20:152 (11,12) - feels like a bigger pitch change to me, considering 01:19:215 (10,11) - are very similar also
01:25:777 (18,19) - Pitch is decreasing here, so dk sounds really weird to me. (19) certainly sounds higher pitch to me, tried changing 01:24:840 (17) - to k instead

[Futsuu]

00:08:199 (15) - This would sound nice as a d for pitch decrease here. Prefer to keep k to highlight pitch change between 00:08:199 (15,16) -
00:32:808 (42) - Again, K would sound better to me here. Here it's probably ok, right? :>
00:39:136 (10) - d for consistency with intro. Done
00:41:949 (15) - d if you changed 00:08:199 (15) - . Didn't change it there, so won't here either
00:42:652 (16) - d for consistency. Done
00:56:246 - Maybe add a note here, to be similar to what you did in the first part? Sure
00:59:058 (25,26,27) - Pitch is decreasing here, so something like either kdd or kkd would make more sense. Changed to kkd
01:06:558 (39) - D on it's own sounds better here to better emphasise pitch change at 40. I don't notice much difference, so prefer to keep K
01:20:621 (19) - d on this would be better because pitch is decreasing so dkd just sounds weird here. I want to show some progression in the pitch change throughout, and ddd just feels super flat. Alternating feels more interesting to me
01:36:090 (6,7,8,9) - ddkk would be nice for consistency with intro. Done, changed 00:37:027 (6,7,8,9) - also
01:41:011 (15) - Again, d if you changed the other two. I did not

[Muzukashii]

00:44:058 (29) - d sounds nicer here, both for pitch decrease and for consistency. Agreed, I even had this in my "d" position so I guess this was accidental lol
01:25:074 (39) - d feels nicer here to me too for the pitch increase to 40 (There is a pitch increase to this too but it's not as strong). Prefer to keep dkk for the guitar which is more prominent here

Muzus are way out of my range both for playing and modding tbh but I trust the taiko BN for this.

[Cup]

Also known as "Finally, something I can mod!"

00:17:340 (1) - A bit more emphasis for the drum beat could be nice, try x:240. Ok

wait shit i forgot something i can mod also means something jbh has more experience in mapping

[Salad]

Also known as "Finally, something I can mod which JBH isn't a god at mapping!"

00:07:027 (3) - Distance to 4 may be a bit strong considering the backforth motion here, maybe do x:220 instead. Done
00:14:527 (1) - Whilst this is actually already nearly impossible without dashing and you can't really make any major changes to it, for some reason the very minor change of moving this to x:452 makes it seem a lot less like it's walkable to me. 4px r u srs
00:15:933 (3) - Pretty difficult for a non-dash, try x:64. Moved 00:15:465 (2) - left a little instead
00:16:871 (5) - Why is the dash to this when 1 is a lot stronger of a note? Change this around to make the dash to 1 please. Who the fuck knows blame previous ctb bn lol
00:20:152 (1) - This looks like it should be a dash but it's not right now, but I actually prefer it as a non-dash, so a change you could make instead (Which would also help in adding a dash to the much stronger note of 4) Would be to move 1 to x:124, 2 to x:264 and 3 to x:332. Reduced (5,1) a little more than you asked for
00:25:777 (1) - x:204 to make sure this is a dash. K
00:28:590 (1) - Guessing this was meant to be a dash, so try x:76 instead. K
00:32:808 (3) - x:144 would be a nice dash here. K
00:48:277 (1) - Try doing x:224 to add a dash. K
00:50:621 (5,1) - Smaller distance to 5 please, this really should not be a stop-start dash motion, 5 isn't strong enough for a dash to start with, let alone this type of difficult movement. My suggestion would be 5 on x:376 and 1 on x:96. Yeah this played like ass so fixed
00:55:308 (4) - Dash to this would fit nicely, something like x:296. K
00:56:715 (1) - x:56 for a dash. Went a bit further since I moved 00:56:246 (5) - left a little also
01:02:340 (1) - Try doing this on x:248 to add a dash to it. Yeah
01:06:558 (3) - x:220 for a dash. K
01:10:777 (1) - Doing x:160 on this would be a lot better to add a dash for the start of the kiai. K
01:14:527 (2,3) - This could be nice to have a dash to 2, however the distance to 3 is a bit too strong after a dash in my opinion, so change this section around a bit to make a dash to 2 and to the next combo, whilst decreasing distance to 3 slightly. Tried my best
01:17:808 (4) - If this is meant to be a dash, try a higher distance, if not, try a lower distance, I'm not sure what you were going for here honestly but it plays awkwardly either way. Made a dash by moving 01:17:340 (2,3) - to the left slightly
01:20:621 (3) - Slightly awkward distance to this for a non-dash right now, try x:128 instead. Done
01:23:433 (1) - Try adding a dash to this by moving it to x:436. Moved 01:22:730 (2,3,4) - left slightly instead
01:27:652 (1) - I think if you ctrl+g this and move it to x:500 it feels a lot nicer both as a dash and as a movement into the next note. Did something different with the previous pattern to create a dash here
01:29:058 (3) - Curve this slightly differently and move 4 to x:332 to add a dash to the next combo. Donezo
01:31:871 (2,3,4) - Maybe do x:212 to stop the backforth motion from being as difficult and also add a dash to the next combo. Weakened it
01:36:090 (1,2) - Try x:144 on this section, both for more comfortable movements in the back forth and to add a dash to 1. Tup
01:38:902 (1) - Add a dash by moving it to x:356. K

[Platter]

00:13:121 (1) - A dash to this by moving it to x:96 and then curving it differently for better flow afterwards would be nice. After this you could even move 2 a bit to the right to add a dash to the next combo too. Done
00:17:340 (1) - Trying a dash to this would be nice for the drumbeat. Try x:392. K
00:18:746 (1) - Maybe do a dash to this? It's currently a pretty awkward non-dash movement, and I think a dash would be nice for the flute. Sure why not
00:20:152 (1) - This one even more so the above case. Fixed
00:21:558 (1) - Honestly considering the pitch, a HDash would actually be really nice on this. Yes
00:22:965 (1) - HDash to this would be good too, for pitch on the flute and the drum beat. Totally
00:25:777 (1) - Normal dash to this one would be nice, try x:240 maybe. Aye
00:28:590 (1) - Dash to this one could be nice for the drumbeat. Ok
00:29:996 (2) - Kinda awkward for a non-dash movement but this sound doesn't really fit a dash to me so try decreasing the distancing a bit. Made it not shit
00:31:402 (1) - Maybe do a dash to this for the flute? Yup
00:38:375 (1,2) - Could try doing x:288 for a dash here. Done
00:46:871 (1) - Try x:400 and curving it differently to keep similar flow afterwards, feels nice. Could also move 2 a bit to add a dash to the next combo, could fit nicely with the flute there. Did it
00:49:683 (1) - Increase distance to make a dash for the guitar and drum here. x:284 works nicely. Fixed
00:51:090 (1) - x:208 would be nice as a stronger dash distance would better emphasise the drum here. Changed all the above spacings with previous suggestion so came up with something else here
00:55:308 (1) - HDash to this could be nice for the flute pitch. Done, consistent with previous
00:56:715 (1) - Same to this for the drum, flute pitch and change in section. Yup
01:12:183 (3) - There should be a dash to this for the flute, especially considering it's stronger and higher pitch than 01:13:590 (1) - , which has a dash. Done
01:14:527 (2,3) - A dash to 2 would be nice, but also, a better flow to the slider on 3 would fit better too, it feels kinda awkward right now to me. Ya
01:17:808 (4) - And some dashes to and from this would also be nice for the flute, in my opinion, your choice though. Added dash to, from is quite low and 1/1 spacing is hard to get a dash in without it playing very weirdly
01:26:246 (1) - x:272 would be nice to add a dash to this. Alright
01:37:028 (4) - Either increase distance to this to make it a dash or decrease it to stop it from playing so awkwardly. Made a dash

- Also fixed a couple of weird NCs

Ok so now that's over and done with, back to things I don't understand! *Crowd in background says "yay!"*

[EZ]

00:14:996 (14996|0) - This would sound better in the 2nd column to me, as the pitch is not that low. Ok
00:15:933 (15933|0) - Pitch here however, is lower, so 1st would sound better. Ok
00:40:777 (40777|1) - Pitch doesn't decrease that much, 2nd column sounds better. Takes a bit of pressure away from 00:41:246 (41246|1) - also
00:43:590 (43590|3) - 2nd column would work better for pitch decrease. High pitch on the guitar suits |3| here
00:44:761 (44761|3) - This would fit better in 3rd column, as the pitch on that sound is similar to that of the second set in this section, which you put in the 3rd column. Reduces pressure in |2| and creates pitch variance with the heavy drum sound before it
01:00:933 (60933|2) - 2nd column would sound better to me for more emphasis on the pitch going lower than it was 2 notes ago. I feel this is closer to 01:01:402 (61402|2) - than 01:01:871 (61871|1) - damn 4k lack of space
01:31:402 (91402|2) - 2nd column sounds nicer to me here too. Prefer to keep |2| so that emphasis is not taken away from 01:31:871 (91871|3,92340|2,92808|1) - on the gradual step-down
01:43:121 (103121|3) - 3rd column, same as 00:44:761 (44761|3) - . I prefer full separation using |0| and |3| here to emphasise the finishing drum sound

Ok I'm just gonna trust the mania BN on the rest of these because your LNs confuse the hell out of me as a person who mostly plays maps with few LNs.

Alright, done. Call me back.

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Is this real?

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Is this real?

JBHyperion wrote:

Typical that my first DQed mapset would be due to metadata xd